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I've read all the Ciaphas Cain novels, and the first Space Wolves omnibus, and they were both pretty good. I've also read the complete Gotrek and Felix series.

Frosty Hardtop wrote: I've also read the complete Gotrek and Felix series.

Is it good?

Fulgrim himself wasn't overpowered - a Primarch being able to hand-to-hand an avatar, and get beat up and seriously burned in the process, is pretty much along the lines of the fluff. And being able to chop a falcon in half with a sword is, if you think about it, something Abaddon can actually do in the current game. Seeing a primarch do it with a stronger daemon sword isn't out of line.

I'm reading Dark Acolyte right now, and I like it except that it seems like a massive 100 million "point" battle could happen at any time. It starts out as a backwater planet landing that "was so small and insignificant it wouldn't draw the attention of the space marine legions". So only the Elysians respond. Yet there's an Emperor titan, some other mechanicus super-machine, over 10,000 chaos space marines and hundreds of millions of guardsmen. Whaaa?

The sheer SCALE of the battle is what staggers me. This is a backwater planet? Really? This is the kind of engagement that happens on distant, unnoticed worlds? What the hell?

But the actual story is good. I like seeing the intricate workings of the Word Bearers. I flipped through Soul Hunter the other day and it looks really good. Really like the Night Lords as portrayed in that book.

Spellbound wrote:Fulgrim himself wasn't overpowered - a Primarch being able to hand-to-hand an avatar, and get beat up and seriously burned in the process, is pretty much along the lines of the fluff. And being able to chop a falcon in half with a sword is, if you think about it, something Abaddon can actually do in the current game. Seeing a primarch do it with a stronger daemon sword isn't out of line.

I'm reading Dark Acolyte right now, and I like it except that it seems like a massive 100 million "point" battle could happen at any time. It starts out as a backwater planet landing that "was so small and insignificant it wouldn't draw the attention of the space marine legions". So only the Elysians respond. Yet there's an Emperor titan, some other mechanicus super-machine, over 10,000 chaos space marines and hundreds of millions of guardsmen. Whaaa?

The sheer SCALE of the battle is what staggers me. This is a backwater planet? Really? This is the kind of engagement that happens on distant, unnoticed worlds? What the hell?

But the actual story is good. I like seeing the intricate workings of the Word Bearers. I flipped through Soul Hunter the other day and it looks really good. Really like the Night Lords as portrayed in that book.

Well when chaos threatens to bring in a warp rift that will turn a world into a daemon world...yes...there are a million IGs and an Imperator class Titan.

Soul Hunter is AWESOME. Read The Night Lord as well.

I've read all of the HH books so far (although I am a bit behind... currently reading A Thousand Sons, which is great).

All the GK books, all the Ultramarine books, Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Soul Drinker books, more beyond that.

I'd say I generally enjoy them, but sometimes they let me down a bit. Anything by Graham and Dan are generally great imo, and I usually like Ben Counter's work.

C.S. Goto is almost always pretty awful, so I avoid his books. The only HH book I was really disappointed in was Descent of Angels, which took me much longer to finish than almost every other one. I didn't LOVE some of the others as much as I loved the first 2 (which I think were the best, although 1000 Sons is getting there), but on a whole they have been pretty good.

They are entertaining, which is what they are supposed to be. They certainly aren't mind blowing, or make you question the foundations of your beliefs/knowledge (although some parallels have come close, heh).

Dawn of War got me into 40k to begin with, then the books, and mostly the books keep me here. Although I still really love Dawn of War... I wish they'd make a 40k a new 40k fps! (ugh firewarrior)

daedalus-templarius wrote:I've read all of the HH books so far (although I am a bit behind... currently reading A Thousand Sons, which is great).

Nope, you are up to speed. Prospero Burns isn't set to come out til January of next year IIRC.

Firesolved wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:I've read all of the HH books so far (although I am a bit behind... currently reading A Thousand Sons, which is great).

Nope, you are up to speed. Prospero Burns isn't set to come out til January of next year IIRC.

Yea I noticed that, I thought Prospero was coming out sooner than that, or already was out. Guess I'll continue my quest to find Courage and Honor(I think that's the one after the Killing Ground anyway) in softback.

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Firesolved wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:I've read all of the HH books so far (although I am a bit behind... currently reading A Thousand Sons, which is great).

Nope, you are up to speed. Prospero Burns isn't set to come out til January of next year IIRC.

Yea I noticed that, I thought Prospero was coming out sooner than that, or already was out. Guess I'll continue my quest to find Courage and Honor(I think that's the one after the Killing Ground anyway) in softback.

You should try the Soul Drinkers novels if you haven't already (although you said you liked Ben Counter, that doesn't mean you've read em yet!).

Firesolved wrote:
You should try the Soul Drinkers novels if you haven't already (although you said you liked Ben Counter, that doesn't mean you've read em yet!).

Yea, I've read all of them
unless a new one since Chapter War has come out. I checked the BL site earlier and didn't see anything new I need to grab.

Soul Hunter was pretty decent. Eisenhorn is one of the best 40k books imo, as its not shooty shooty bang bang-the plot is very interesting
Hats off to Mr Abnett. Ravenor was good to, but not as good as Eisenhorn.

daedalus-templarius wrote:

Firesolved wrote:
You should try the Soul Drinkers novels if you haven't already (although you said you liked Ben Counter, that doesn't mean you've read em yet!).

Yea, I've read all of them
unless a new one since Chapter War has come out. I checked the BL site earlier and didn't see anything new I need to grab.

For future reference, get your books off of ebay or amazon. WAAAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper. In the past year since I bought Emperor's Mercy, I've amassed well over 500 bucks worth of WH:40K books. Some might say this is a waste ("Hey ya git, ya culda uzed that shiny stuff ta get a pack o' me killingest choppa boyz."), but I am happy with my investment. I've paid maybe half of what the worth of all my books is (based off MSRP of course). All due to Amazon/Ebay.

I get all my books from the library! It's free!

I'm at the moment trying to get my hands on the the Grey Knight novels and maybe the Ultramarines, I just need help in figuring out which book starts each series. Help??

blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:I get all my books from the library! It's free!

I'm at the moment trying to get my hands on the the Grey Knight novels and maybe the Ultramarines, I just need help in figuring out which book starts each series. Help??

Try getting the ominibus; several books in one, and no need to find out order.

True, that's how I got through the blood angels and space wolves, but aren't there more than one omnibus' for the ultra marines and grey knights?

blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:True, that's how I got through the blood angels and space wolves, but aren't there more than one omnibus' for the ultra marines and grey knights?

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Okay, I can't help you there.

Ummm....

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grey_Knights_%28Novel_Series%29

Seems to be one omnibus for GK. But I'm no expert here.

I feel quite alone in having loved Descent of Angels, but maybe thats just because I'm a Dark Angels player that plays them because of their fluff. Meh. Only one I've read so far and looking forward to getting the second installment.

Luco wrote:I feel quite alone in having loved Descent of Angels, but maybe thats just because I'm a Dark Angels player that plays them because of their fluff. Meh. Only one I've read so far and looking forward to getting the second installment.

The first part of Descent was pretty good, but as soon as everyone became Space Marines everything got rushed and not very interesting.

blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:True, that's how I got through the blood angels and space wolves, but aren't there more than one omnibus' for the ultra marines and grey knights?

There are two Omnibuses for Space Wolves. Not sure about the Ultramarines and Grey Knights (I dont like either one of em anyways).

blazinpsycho&typhooni wrote:True, that's how I got through the blood angels and space wolves, but aren't there more than one omnibus' for the ultra marines and grey knights?

There is only one GK omnibus, I hope Counter is working on another book tbh, I enjoy the Gk books, and the ending of Hammer of Daemons definitely paved the way for more good stuff in the future.

There is one Ultramarines omnibus, but then another 2(maybe 3?) books on top of that. Once Graham writes another 3 they will probably make another omnibus. I am still hunting for a paperback of Courage and Honor, I think I just need to order it off amazon.

Luco wrote:I feel quite alone in having loved Descent of Angels, but maybe thats just because I'm a Dark Angels player that plays them because of their fluff. Meh. Only one I've read so far and looking forward to getting the second installment.

I liked it!

Ah, so it's the second space wolves omnibus that escaped me. I'll get right on them. As soon as 6 other people finish reading them...

*sigh*

the drawbacks of the library...

The only 40k book I've read was Xenology, and I thought that was a decent read. Wouldn't really say its a novel though.

Gorechild wrote:The only 40k book I've read was Xenology, and I thought that was a decent read. Wouldn't really say its a novel though.

Ya, I read that. There was an actual overall story to it though, it just wasn't that good. I think the final evil-doer was a necron lord or something. I remember it being a total bust.

Usually? No.

But I did enjoy the Ciaphas Cain series.

I love the novels. I have quite an extensive collection ranging from SM to Inquisition and everything in between. Favorite Author is Graham McNeil.

Ok so I'm not alone, just in a small group (Yay! ) ~ . I agree with the second part being rushed, but I still didn't want to put it down. Still, on the same par with the second Halo book.

I just read Death or Glory.

Gotta love Cain.

Since I really like the faction, I've been additively reading the book Faith and Fire about the Sisters of Battle. I'm really enjoying it and am at the last two chapters. I really like it and am also interested in other books such as Lord of the Night and the Dark Apostle series, but don't know much about either.

Deep Throat wrote:Since I really like the faction, I've been additively reading the book Faith and Fire about the Sisters of Battle. I'm really enjoying it and am at the last two chapters. I really like it and am also interested in other books such as Lord of the Night and the Dark Apostle series, but don't know much about either.

I would highly suggest The Dark Apostle series. Lord of the Night is pretty epic and if you like that one, you should DEFINITELY read the newer Soul Hunter.

I used to think the Night Lords were a bunch of wanton murderers with no direction. I was wrong.

Firesolved wrote:...you should DEFINITELY read the newer Soul Hunter.

I second this. Soul Hunter is pretty amazing.