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All I have to say is this: It's about damn time. Having lots of new characters sounds fun too.

Oh, the other question, did he say anything (or does anyone know) if they might be doing plastic long fangs or wolfy predators or anything like that?

Thanks reds8n, I appreciate that!

Rated G wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Hopefully they will finish it up soon so we can get to reworking the major races codexes. As cool as the wolves are I don't really think they need the same amount of time that a flagship race does.

??? They're about as major as they come. They deserve just as much attention as anything else. In fact, they will receive more because they are among the most popular armies out there, if local opinions and internet rumblings are any indicator.

Yes, because there are more space wolf players than tau, necron or tyranid players.

Tau - 2005
Necrons - 2002
Tyranid - 2005

Space Wolves - 2000

1) Space Wolves were the VERY first Codex (1994). Ever. They have been updated once. In 2000.

2) SW are the only Codex that requires the purchase of an additional book to field. Which is still better than a WD army like the poor BA.

3) Since 2000, only TWO "non-Codex" SM Codicies have been released. In the last 9 years. TWO.

3a) 2005 - BT
3b) 2007 - DA

So please, ONE Space Wolf thread without people whining about the Space Wolves getting an update after NINE years of waiting. That would be great.

To those members that still feel the need to whine about an army getting an update after nine years, a pre-emptive "you are a douche".

2000??? I thought it was later than that (2002 maybe). That's absolutely insane! Especially since so many people still use them. And they need an additional book? I didn't know that...

I'm hoping for an accessory sprue similar to that of the Black Templars. 10 torsos, a bunch of different heads and shoulder pads, themed weapons, and then glyphs and runes and whatnot to stick on vehicles.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm hoping for an accessory sprue similar to that of the Black Templars. 10 torsos, a bunch of different heads and shoulder pads, themed weapons, and then glyphs and runes and whatnot to stick on vehicles.

All of that would make me a happy puppy.

dienekes96 wrote:Tau - 2005
Necrons - 2002
Tyranid - 2005

Space Wolves - 2000

1) Space Wolves were the VERY first Codex (1994). Ever. They have been updated once. In 2000.

2) SW are the only Codex that requires the purchase of an additional book to field. Which is still better than a WD army like the poor BA.

3) Since 2000, only TWO "non-Codex" SM Codicies have been released. In the last 9 years. TWO.

3a) 2005 - BT
3b) 2007 - DA

So please, ONE Space Wolf thread without people whining about the Space Wolves getting an update after NINE years of waiting. That would be great.

To those members that still feel the need to whine about an army getting an update after nine years, a pre-emptive "you are a douche".

Er, yeah, what he said...

(And said well indeed!)

ShumaGorath wrote:

Rated G wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Hopefully they will finish it up soon so we can get to reworking the major races codexes. As cool as the wolves are I don't really think they need the same amount of time that a flagship race does.

??? They're about as major as they come. They deserve just as much attention as anything else. In fact, they will receive more because they are among the most popular armies out there, if local opinions and internet rumblings are any indicator.

Yes, because there are more space wolf players than tau, necron or tyranid players.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are, in two of those cases at least. Wouldn't be surprised if there are not. Regardless, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't get the same treatment every other army out there gets, regardless if you (a general "you" of course) play them or not. This is doubly true given dienekes96's reasons above.

I disagree with the entire premise of 'flagship' races. Lets' put an equal amount of time into everyone. Ultimately that will boost GW's profits if they diversify. Jervis, Phil... Anyone? Anyone? They'd make so much more money and get more players into the game if they thought long term and supported everyone--not totally equally, but at least be a little more balanced than they are now.

Of all the marine chapters they deserve their own book most. BA and DA are 90% the same as the basic marine codex, SW only about 50% in a general sort of way. So its good they're getting the redo.

All preferences on the order of redoing codices are moot since its practically guaranteed. Those preferences have nothing to do with this rumor.

Its interesting to hear that the codex take the approach of focusing on the heroes of legend drawing from the viking slant of SW. I can only imagine that means their veteran sgts will be a crucial component to their rules. Probably with the different special squad rules being directly connected to sgts and characters.

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:I disagree with the entire premise of 'flagship' races. Lets' put an equal amount of time into everyone. Ultimately that will boost GW's profits if they diversify. Jervis, Phil... Anyone? Anyone? They'd make so much more money and get more players into the game if they thought long term and supported everyone--not totally equally, but at least be a little more balanced than they are now.

That certainly is true, its just with limited resources they have to prioritize. 90% of the time that mean marines or imperium centric armies first, xenos later.

My friend ordered 100 Space Wolves Codexes.

He's a funny guy.

since the space wolves are being updated does that mean DA, BA, and BT could get updates too?

The Angry Commissar wrote:since the space wolves are being updated does that mean DA, BA, and BT could get updates too?

I don't see how those would be related. DA, BA, and BT got new codexes relatively recently, SW's codex came out a long long time ago.

The Angry Commissar wrote:since the space wolves are being updated does that mean DA, BA, and BT could get updates too?

No. BA and DA are among the most recent Codexes to be released. I'd hope for a 'Codex Dark Angels Revised' - but I doubt GW will admit that they dropped the ball with them twice in a row.

BT are slightly more likely - but unlike Space Wolves they don't need another book to be fieldable, are much newer and still work reasonably well with the current rules.

I'd be surprised if any of the other Marine armies got Codex books before 6th ed.

my theory was just because those chapters have their own codexes... o well.

And for something totally out of the ordinary, GW has decided to release not 1 but 2 new (Codex's, Codexes, Codeci, Codexi) - Space Puppies and S&M Eldar!

I like what I'm hearing just wish it was something more concrete. Hopefully hero heavy gets away from the Must have HQ Choice for every 750Pts. restriction of the existing Wolves Codex which has always been a pain.

Reecius wrote:Phil Kelly is writing it? AWESOME.

Really? I heard Robin Crudace.

So it'll either be really powerful, or really pointless.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I'm hoping for an accessory sprue similar to that of the Black Templars. 10 torsos, a bunch of different heads and shoulder pads, themed weapons, and then glyphs and runes and whatnot to stick on vehicles.

.. you wouldn't be upset by more than this though would you ?

'Course not.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Reecius wrote:Phil Kelly is writing it? AWESOME.

Really? I heard Robin Crudace.

He wrote the Guard codex, Phil is defiantly the writer (or at least the main writer) of the Space Wolf codex.

He has said this in a pod cast himself as "very excited about writing it".

H.B.M.C. wrote:'Course not.

Good good.

This is music to a Space Wolf fan's ears. Phil Kelly is their best codex designer and writer and the awesome concept of space wolves has always brought up the best in their artists and miniature designers. It's about time they tap into that potential.

What's even better is that Hammer's started a new, absolutely gorgeous SW army and should have it up to playing well in advance to the codex and then enjoy a new spur of inspiration and building

@padixon - all the more the pity. Guard could have used Phil's efforts far more, considering the scope and impact.

As a Space wolf fan and player, I truly enjoy knowing Phil is behind the wheel. He brings an 'outside the box' thinking to codex and rules writing.

However DD has truly brought up a good point. If any army needed that kind of codex writing ability, it was the guard. However, that was Robin's first codex as the head writer and not the helper, so we still have to wait and see how well he is representing the guard [I also have a guard army as well ]

* doing his little happy dance * just don't it up gw
I just want my exterminator or some kind of Russ please let it be a punisher.