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We know GW have being steadily driving out their vet customers, replacing with the very new type of customers with
unwavering faith and loyalty, and the ability to soak up the propaganda like a sponge.

You may think Im just kidding, but really? Because which corporation doesn't want this type of customers?
I know I do, does it not make sense with everything GW is doing?

Here we have customer ID 233ba94k and his testimony on GW's latest product.
( sorry but try to sit through the entire clip )

Cheaper eh lol?

I’ll have to agree with Lunahound’s theory. From a business perspective, any business would want blindly faithful customers. The question is though whether this was 100% intentional (or was it initially unintentionally achieved). Even still, GW’s financials have been on a steady decline for quite a few years now so I’ll say that it’s yet to pay off for GW.

What... the...

There's a hell. Even as someone who doesn't really strongly hate or like GW, this is ridiculous.

Then again, to be fair, he is a kid. It's obvious that he's just re-iterating whatever some pro-GW white knight has told him.

*watches entire video*

*sighs heavily*

It will be cheaper?!? Good luck with that kid. GW have 'copyright' on the Finecast material so that other companies can't use it?!? I actually want that to be right more than the price thing. Please keep that stuff away from models I would want to buy.

Cryonicleech wrote:What... the...

There's a hell. Even as someone who doesn't really strongly hate or like GW, this is ridiculous.

Then again, to be fair, he is a kid. It's obvious that he's just re-iterating whatever some pro-GW white knight has told him.

Im not criticizing the boy at all. After all, I call that a "success story of GW" if anything.

Its not about liking or disliking GW either, its what it really looks like the path GW is taking with picking their new customers.

GW probably has an Arbites Judge with a bolt pistol pointed at the kids head off camera. Hence the clear distress and confusion in his eyes.

Harriticus wrote:GW probably has an Arbites Judge with a bolt pistol pointed at the kids head off camera. Hence the clear distress and confusion in his eyes.

Or the "clear distress and confusion in his eyes" is because it's a kid. Many kids aren't very good at doing what could be deemed as "public speaking".

And to be fair to the kid, he's about on par with some of the video blogs posted by adults that you'll see. Heck, some are even "professional reviewers" who do that for a living and behave the same.

With that said, this thread is nothing but an adolescent of the same age bracket, thinking they're "more informed" because they spend their time criticizing the same thing this kid posted a video lauding, poking fun at someone they saw on the Internets.

Behold, everyone over the age of 20 who plays GW games! This is who the games and models are designed to be sold towards.

By the way, someone should drop in and give him a line to Dakka. Then we can all place bets on how long it'll take to get him to make an anti-GW video.

LunaHound wrote:We know GW have being steadily driving out their vet customers, replacing with the very new type of customers with
unwavering faith and loyalty, and the ability to soak up the propaganda like a sponge.

You may think Im just kidding, but really? Because which corporation doesn't want this type of customers?
I know I do, does it not make sense with everything GW is doing?

Here we have customer ID 233ba94k and his testimony on GW's latest product.
( sorry but try to sit through the entire clip )

I thought he was going to say something near the end like "Lol, no, they're actually pieces of gak. Funny video, eh? I bet you thought I loved GW, lol"

Cheaper? Invincible? Great for the community? hhehehehehehehehehehehe.

I agree luna. I wish I would've picked this game up in the early 90s so I could see the full picture of the scenario.

lol, poor kid. For all we know a GW staff member cornered him in the back of the store and made him record this. "Here, read this script, it'll only take a couple minutes and we'll give you 10% off a Finecast blister. Argh, no, try to be a little more excited...eh, feth it, that's good enough."

I'd really hate to think the kid did this all on his own, anyway, to think that he could really be that naive and/or stupid. I really like the part where cheaper material is "good for everyone"...I guess he didn't notice how the prices went up when Finecast came out, and will only ever continue to go up since that's what GW corporate learned in Backwards Economics class in whatever bs private school for rich, privileged kids they went to. This video almost makes me genuinely angry, I mean listen to that kid, it almost sounds like he was brainwashed. This is why GW has tried so hard to make their brand "for kids" and told the rest of us to feth off, because young, impressionable kids are the only ones who will listen to their bs.

Oh look. Lunahound made a thread to bash GW. This isn't payback for everyone thinking that Mantic Skellies (rightfully) look like gak, is it? 'Cause that's what it feels like.

Let me name the ways that OP is wrong.

1) GW does not, as you seem to imply, brainwash little kids to liking their products.

2) GW customers do not have ID numbers. This isn't 1984.

3) The video is obviously fake in some fashion, probably some kid wanting to get attention, or someone having him read a script.


GW doesn't want to alienate anyone. It's why the vets are getting a bunch of blasts from the pasts from places like FW and BL. Hell, with the 25th Anniversary model and the GD model, they seem like they're apologizing!

Chowderhead wrote:GW doesn't want to alienate anyone.

They're doing a bad job of it then, in my opinion. It's going to take more than a couple of throwback models (in Finecast no less) to make up for years of bs.

I tried to watch the whole thing, I really did. Had to stop after 30 seconds. Too painful in too many ways to list off.

Oh, uh.... wow I guess...

The Commisar should have had a sillouette in the foreground before the cerimonial beating commenced.

That was pretty bad, even to watch.

What has been seen, can never be unseen.

Clearly ignorant child is Clearly ignorant

Yeah I got the impression that he was being held at gun point.

Chowderhead wrote:Oh look. Lunahound made a thread to bash GW. This isn't payback for everyone thinking that Mantic Skellies (rightfully) look like gak, is it? 'Cause that's what it feels like.

Let me name the ways that OP is wrong.

1) GW does not, as you seem to imply, brainwash little kids to liking their products.

2) GW customers do not have ID numbers. This isn't 1984.

3) The video is obviously fake in some fashion, probably some kid wanting to get attention, or someone having him read a script.


GW doesn't want to alienate anyone. It's why the vets are getting a bunch of blasts from the pasts from places like FW and BL. Hell, with the 25th Anniversary model and the GD model, they seem like they're apologizing!

I don't think the video is obviously fake; that being said, I agree that the reaction to it is pretty overblown. Some people may like Games Workshop for stupid reasons, but that goes for almost any company. Personally, as a hobbyist and gamer with 10+ years of experience, including games and models from GW and from other manufacturers, I believe that Games Workshop as it stands today is doing a great job and that 40k is better than ever. Every recent GW Codex release has been great, and for once I feel that the older armies aren't really being left out to dry.

As for Finecast, to be honest I love it. If GW released a Finecast update to the Thunderfire Cannon, I would immediately purchase 1-2. I think the light weight and ease of assembly and conversion that Finecast offers greatly outweighs the downsides. Is it the One True Material that all others must be compared to? Nah. But it does strike me as a big improvement over metal, and the game store owners I've spoken to in my area report that Finecast sells very well indeed! To be honest, the Internet complaints about Finecast don't seem to match the real impact and value of the material.

ONE VIDEO ON THE INTERNET IS THE IDEAL WAY TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT ABOUT AN ENTIRE COMPANY.

I should dig up someone going on about PP and do the same thing.

Necroshea wrote:Yeah I got the impression that he was being held at gun point.

Me too! It looked like he kept looking to the side as if a GW manager was standing there, pointing a gun at him and pointing to the camera.

puma713 wrote:

Necroshea wrote:Yeah I got the impression that he was being held at gun point.

Me too! It looked like he kept looking to the side as if a GW manager was standing there, pointing a gun at him and pointing to the camera.

"It's uh...fine and cheaper and uh...and....uh..."
*Hammer cocks back*
"ITS GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY!"

I imagine after a couple takes and more than a couple threats of thumping he read the lines smooth enough to seem legit

Kanluwen wrote:With that said, this thread is nothing but an adolescent of the same age bracket, thinking they're "more informed" because they spend their time criticizing the same thing this kid posted a video lauding, poking fun at someone they saw on the Internets.

Nah, this thread applauds GW's success and it's tactical decision to picking out the new wave of customers to replace.
Which as many have pointed out, share too much coincidence with what GW business plan is following.

So is that your attempt to thinly veil ( or no veil at all ) a personal attack.

Chowderhead wrote:Oh look. Lunahound made a thread to bash GW. This isn't payback for everyone thinking that Mantic Skellies (rightfully) look like gak, is it? 'Cause that's what it feels like.

Let me name the ways that OP is wrong.

1) GW does not, as you seem to imply, brainwash little kids to liking their products.

2) GW customers do not have ID numbers. This isn't 1984.

3) The video is obviously fake in some fashion, probably some kid wanting to get attention, or someone having him read a script.


GW doesn't want to alienate anyone. It's why the vets are getting a bunch of blasts from the pasts from places like FW and BL. Hell, with the 25th Anniversary model and the GD model, they seem like they're apologizing!

Wait.... what? this is the most w t f stuff I have ever read on dakka. ( and im quite serious )
What does mantic's skeleton have to do with GW's successful business plan?
Who said I dont think Mantic skeletons doesnt look weird?
Who ever said GW brain wash little kids? so because a product launch is successful, it means brain wash?
GW customer doesnt have ID, some how you didnt manage to catch thats part of a joke?
The video is fake....? no , Im sure there are tons of customers very similar to the one in the video.

Finally, it seems like your reaction is just some baseless vendetta or paranoia.

So I'll save you the trouble and make it clear so you dont have to play detective. ( biggerized so wont miss it, for now, or for the future )

1) Lunahound love GW products, minus the failure of finecast. If GW fix the issues, Lunahound is willing to love finecast as well.
2) Lunahound hates GW business model from the customer's point of view though im sure tons of people do too.
3) Lunahound loves GW business model from a corporation's point of view, I have applaud them numerous time in this thread.

Comprendez vous?

Oh more for you chowderhead, here is a list of what I have said I DISLIKE about Mantic:

1) I think mantic makes bad moves trying to save pennies ( figure of speech ) on cutting cost in painting / photographing ./ displaying their products.
2) I think mantic makes bad move in making their sci fi ( warpath ) line to be hybrid with their kings of war orcs
3) I think mantic is about to make a bad move if the corporation minis are not in plastic.
4) I think mantic made a bad move making their goblins metal.

Shame on you chowderhead, I know what my stance is in how i view GW and Mantic so I certainly dont need you guessing what I know in my head please, thank you.

It's like he just read the finecast release GW put on their website word for word. Someone get that kid some basic math and think-for-yourselfidness.

Surtur wrote:It's like he just read the finecast release GW put on their website word for word. Someone get that kid some basic math and think-for-yourselfidness.

To play this angle, aren't you essentially demanding that he agree with you? Not so much think-for-yourselfedness, and more like think-out-way-itness.

it wasnt there before but it is now

Thanks Necroshea for the adding a slimy dark undertone to the whole thing

is the manager wearing a bear mask?? *shudder* :S

seriously though its a KID. That level of devotion is easy for a kid to have for ANY IP.

now get an ADULT to do the same exact thing without being ironic...now thats the trick.

Bakerofish wrote:seriously though its a KID. That level of devotion is easy for a kid to have for ANY IP.

Yes that is kind of the point right?

The haters that are hating me for pointing this out takes it as a direct offense towards GW.

Yet anyone that sees beyond the hate also agrees with that concept itself.
Anyone agrees that because IT IS natural for a kid to display all that kind of behavior is exactly why they make the best choice target to be customers.

We all agree?

Luna, you seem really bitter about stuff. Especially bitter about youtube videos, which are the internet-equivalent of scrawling a message on a bathroom wall in a pub.

LunaHound wrote:Yes that is kind of the point right?

The haters that are hating me for pointing this out takes it as a direct offense towards GW.

Yet anyone that sees beyond the hate also agrees with that concept itself.
Anyone agrees that its natural for a kid to display all that kind of behavior is exactly why they make the best choice of customers.

Am I right or am I right

/thread.

On a more off topic note, I’ve never understood this “us versus them” attitude that posters on Dakka tend to display sometimes. I suppose the only explanation is “this is the internetz”.

@daedalus
no that would be twitter

@Lunahound
Not really. You have adults who would display the same behaviors all over this forum The "KID" isnt even an ideal customer because he doesnt have a credit card.