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Death Company sprue comes with 1 thunder hammer. I still think it's a bit cheesy to make each have 2 since the text says "Any Death Company can replace their bolt pistol and/or chainsword with:

Thunder hammer"

RAI was never to have one model with 2 hammers... which doesn't make sence. Or do they get 1 extra attack with it?

You get +1 attack for 2 identical CCWs.

Plus it looks awsome.

If we put Ratbarf's and Rashim's lists together maybe we can get a DA list we all can agree on. I'm not going to rehash any of the undisputed points.

HQ- Azrael, maxed command squad with maxed RB - 630
Sammael - 205
835

Elite- Vet Squad, all with TH, SS, MB and a maxed RB - 770 x 3
(With the FAQ all models can take TH's)
2310

Troops- Maxed RW Attack Squadron - 445 x 6
RW banner and Apothecary in one - 40
2710

Fast Attack- Maxed RW Attack Squadron - 445 x 3
1335

Heavy- Maxed LR each with Maxed Techmarine, servitors, and dedicated maxed RB- 670 x 3
2010
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Which equals one hour of my life wasted plus....
9200 points

Not very impressive, but that's DA for ya.

Can someone post a pic of a DC marine with two TH? I can only ever find TH for the left arm.

Crimson Cobra wrote:

DarkHound wrote:Hey, Tau players, don't forget about Farsight and his Bodyguard. I'm too tired to do the math myself.

I tried it.
His retinue gets expensive but the way he limits the rest of the FOC really cuts down the points. You can't just spam the most expensive squad in each section.
I'll have a look at tyranids once I actually wake up

What? I don't get it. Isn't the point to spam the most expensive squad in each section?

He means you CANT spam the most expensive models, as the FOC is too limited.

How is it too limited to take the most expensive thing for each slot in every slot? Farsight and his decked out retinue are the most expensive HQ you're going to get, which is what you want.

@Darkhound.

And what if the point cost of the Farsight bomb isn't high enough to justify the lower point cost of the other choices?

Ailaros wrote:I play guard: you all lose

HQ: Creed, kell, nork, heavy flamer, camo cloaks, carapace armor krak grenades vox caster medipack 3x plasma guns, chimera (heavy stubber, HK, dozer, EA, camo), 5 ministorum priests with eviscerators, 2 techpriests with 5 servitors, two carrying plasma cannons.

1060

Straken, regimental standard, heavy flamer, camo cloaks, carapace armor krak grenades vox caster medipack 3x plasma guns, chimera (heavy stubber, HK, dozer, EA, camo)

405

ELITES:

3x 10 ogryn with chimera chimera (heavy stubber, HK, dozer, EA, camo)

(530 apiece) 1590

TROOPS:

Chenkov, commissar with power fist, plasma pistol, medipack, platoon standard, vox caster, heavy flamer, 2x plasma, krak grenades (215)

5 PIS with melta bombs, commissar, 2x plasma pistols, 2x power weapons, plasma gun, vox caster, lascannon, krak grenades (180 apiece) 900

5 lascannon heavy weapons squads (105 apiece) 525

2 special weapons squads with demos 190

50-man conscript squad with send in the next wave 275

6 chimeras (heavy stubber, HK, dozer, EA, camo) 720

2825

Same as above, except with al'rahem

2845

4 more infantry platoons as above, except without the special characters but with a plasma pistol and power fist for the JO.

(2830 apiece) 11320

Total spent on troops: 16990

FAST ATTACK

3x 3x squads of hellhounds with multimelta, searchlight, stubber, HK, dozer, EA, smoke, camo

1944

HEAVY SUPPORT

3x 3x squads of executioners with plasma sponsons, hull lascannon, pintle stubber, HK, dozer, EA, camo.

+ one of them has Pask 50

2840


---- TOTAL -----

24,979 points

946 infantry models

59 vehicles

Ungodly number of guns and assorted weapons.

Holy Crap!!!


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Sanctjud wrote:Chaos Space Marines:

Infinity...

Thats cheating...isn't it?!


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cormz wrote:HQ: Chuck Norris
Elites: none
Troops: none
Fast attack: none
Heavy support: none

Total: more than infinity
The human brain can not understand how much chuck norris is worth. If you put a price on Chuck Norris, he will hunt you down and kill you.

Bows to Chuck!

Here's a BT one that's pretty expensive. BT being limited to a max number of models in order to buy a transport limits the points cost. As well as the fact that our characters can only have so many points spent in wargear.

HQ:

Champion w/ Accept any Challenge
-Unit Cost: 140

Marshal w/ artificer armor, auspex, bionics, combat shield, holy orb of antioch, mastercrafted weapon, teleport homer, terminator honors, frags, kraks, melta bombs and two thunderhammers
-Command Squad, 10 members all with terminator honors and all specialists, two plasma cannons, crusader seals, frags, kraks and furious charge. Each specialist also has artificer armor, auspex, bionics, combat shield (the champion's is free), mastercrafted weapon, teleport homer, melta bombs and two thunderhammers (the champ doesn't as I'm not sure if it allows you to swap his PW he gets as a champion)
-Added on Master of Sanctity w/ artificer armor, auspex, bionics, combat shield, holy orb, mastercrafted weapon, teleport homer, terminator honors, frags, kraks, melta bombs and two thunderhammers + 3 cenobyte servitors
-Transport LRC w/ blessed hull, dozer blade, HK missile, pintle storm bolter, searchlight and smoke launchers
-Unit Cost: 1728

Another Marshal with exactly the same command squad EXCEPT that the standard bearer has a chapter banner
-Unit Cost: 1753

HQ Total: 3621

Elites:

8 Sword Brethren Terminators w/ two cyclone missile launchers, all w/ chainfists, crusader seals and tank hunters
-LRC w/ blessed hull, dozer blade, HK missile, pintle storm bolter, searchlight and smoke launchers
-Unit Cost: 764

Two more of the same unit

Elites Total: 2292

Troops:

Crusader Squad, 10 Initiates and 5 Neophytes, frags, kraks, crusader seals, plasma cannon and melta gun
-LRC w/ blessed hull, dozer blade, HK missile, pintle storm bolter, searchlight and smoke launchers
-Unit Cost: 629

5 more units of the same

Troops Total: 3774

Fast Attack:

Black Templar Assault squad, 10 members w/ kraks and melta bombs, 2 flamers, powerfist and 8 stormshields
-Unit Cost: 301

2 more of the same unit

Fast Attack Total: 903

Heavy Support

LRC w/ blessed hull, dozer blade, HK missile, pintle storm bolter, searchlight and smoke launchers
-Unit Cost: 324

2 more of the same unit

Heavy Support Total: 972

Army Total: 11562

Not to mention 14 Land Raider Crusaders! Yowza! I did try originally to use Helbrecht to force his command squad size up with the neophytes, but the Marshals w/ added Chaplains made it much more expensive.

Tyranids:
Hive Tyrant with wings, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, acid blood, implant attack, toxic miasma, regeneration, twin-linked devourer, heavy venom cannon, hive commander, indescribable horror, old adversary....430 points

Hive Tyrant with wings, adrenal glands, toxin sacs, acid blood, implant attack, toxic miasma, regeneration, twin-linked devourer, heavy venom cannon, hive commander, indescribable horror, old adversary....430 points

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...215 points

3 Tyrant Guard with Boneswords...215 points

HQ: 1290 points

3 Zoenthropes w/ a pod with w/ venom cannons...240 points

3 Zoenthropes w/ a pod with w/ venom cannons...240 points

3 Zoenthropes w/ a pod with w/ venom cannons...240 points

Elites: 720 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

9 Warriors w/ Lash Whips and Boneswords, 8 Deathspitters, 1 Venom Cannon, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs in Spore Pod w/ Venom Cannon...610 points

Troops: 3660 points

9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs...585 points

9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs...585 points

9 Shrikes w/ Rending Claws, Lash Whips and Boneswords, Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs...585 points

Fast Attack: 1755 points

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

3 Carnifexes with Crushing Claws, Heavy Venom Cannons, Frag Spines, Adrenal Glands, Toxin sacs, Bio-plasma, Regeneration...840

Heavy Support: 2520

Total Points: 9945

Total Models: 107 Models

35 points!

sniperjolly wrote:Blood Angels
HQ:1897
Astorath the Grim-220
The Sanguinator-275
2xHonor guard squads with dual thunderhammers, chapter banner, melta bombs and a fully decked out LR-701 each

Elites:2,238
3x 10 TH/SS termies with decked out LR-746 each

Troops:17,250
6x 30 man jump pack death company with dual thunderhammers-2850 each
Lamartes, Gauridian of the Lost-150

Fast attack:3,483
3x Full vanguard, with land raider, dual hammers and meltabombs.-1161 each

Heavy support:1863
3x full Devs, 4xLC's dual PF sarge and a meltabomb with LR-621 each

Total=26,731
11 land raiders
586 thunder hammers

I think I win.

I can beat you though with my Blood Angels List:

HQ:
Sanguinor - 275
Astorath - 220
2xHonour Guard with Dual Thunder Hammers, Meltabombs and one Squad with Company Standard the other with Chapter Banner both in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 1517

Elites:
3x 8 Man Terminator Sqauds with Assault Cannon and Cyclone Missile Launcher and Chainfists in fully Upgraded Land Raider Crusaders - 2218

Troops:
6x 30 Man Death Company Squad with Dual Thunder Hammers, Jump Packs, Lemartes - 2850 Each plus 150 Lemartes

Fast Attack:
3x 10 Man Vanguard Veteran Squad with Dual Thunder Hammers, Melta Bombs all in Fully upgraded Land Raiders - 3483

Heavy Support:
3x 10 Man Devastator Sqauds with 4 Lascannons, Seargeant with Dual Power Fists and Melta Bombs in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 1863

Total - 26826

EDIT: I have edited the list to be legal as I can. I still have the largest army list though!!!

DashofPepper wrote:A comment in another thread...

That would be me, original thread here. For those keeping count, the largest Space Marine army possible is 12230.

HQ - 3735
1 x Marneus Calgar - 250
1 x Chapter Master - Storm Shield, Relic Blade, Digital Weapons, Artificier Armour, Meltabombs, Hellfire Rounds, Aux. Grenade Launcher, Space Marine Bike - 260
4 x Honour Guard - 7 additional members, Thunderhammer, 10 Aux. Grenade Launchers, 10 Relic Blades - 685
4 x Razorbacks - Twin-Linked Lascannons, Hunter-Killer Missile, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 115
1 x Chapter Banner - 25

Troops - 2250
6 x Tactical Squads - Plasma Gun, Lascannon, 2 Powerfists, Meltabombs, Teleport Homer - 260
6 x Razorbacks - Twin-Linked Lascannons, Hunter-Killer Missile, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 115

Elites - 1880
3 x Terminator Squads - 2 Cyclone Missile Launchers, 9 Chainfists - 505
1 x Land Raider - Brother Chronus, Hunter-Killer Missile, Multi-Melta, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 365

Fast Attack - 2925
3 x Vanguard Veterans - Relic Blade, 19 Thunderhammers, 10 Meltabombs - 830
3 x Razorbacks - Twin-Linked Lascannons, Hunter-Killer Missile, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 115

Heavy Support - 1440
3 x Devastator Squads - 2 Powerfists, 4 Lascannons, 1 Meltabombs - 365
3 x Razorbacks - Twin-Linked Lascannons, Hunter-Killer Missile, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 115

Total: 12230

Based on the latest, here is the collected list. The Blood Angels hold the first post, with Imperial Guard a close second. Then we have a group of armies in the approximately 10 - 14K range. All the rest can only squeeze under 10K.
If these hypothetical full-FOC armies ever crossed paths, the match between the first and the last could be called something of an anti-climax. The point difference is a staggering 22406 points !

1) Blood Angels: 27791
2) Imperial Guard: 25604
3) Space Wolves: 14310
4) Space Marines: 12230
5) Black Templars: 11562
6) Orks: 10365
7) Chaos Space Marines: 10255 ( not counting Spawn/Summoned Daemons )
8) Witch Hunters: 10060 ( mono-Codex )
9) Tyranids: 9965 ( Multiple contenders, but all consistently hitting the 99xx mark. )
10) Daemon Hunters: 9246 ( mono-Codex )
11) Dark Angels: 9200 ( This is the 3rd offered result so far . The DA are clearly a challenge. )
12) Tau Empire: 8745
13) Eldar: 8217
14) Dark Eldar: 7303 ( absolute maximum can go higher since this version was based on Dark Lances )
15) Chaos Daemons: 6495
16) Necrons: 5385

If you notice some errors in the lists presented, by all means share your observations.

reidy1113 wrote:
I can beat you though with my Blood Angels List:

HQ:
2xHonour Guard with Blood Champions, Dual Thunder Hammers, Jump Packs, Infernus Pistols, Meltabombs and one Squad with Company Standard the other with Chapter Banner both in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 1807

Can't do dual thunderhammers and an infernus pistol, they only have two weapons to trade.

reidy1113 wrote:Heavy Support:
3x 10 Man Devastator Sqauds with 9 Lascannons, Seargeant with Dual Power Fists and Melta Bombs in fully uograded Land Raiders - 2238

Only 4 heavy weapons per Dev squad.

unbeliever87 wrote:
Elites - 1880
3 x Terminator Squads - 2 Cyclone Missile Launchers, 9 Chainfists - 505
1 x Land Raider - Brother Chronus, Hunter-Killer Missile, Multi-Melta, Dozer Blade, Storm Bolter, Extra Armour - 365

Shouldn't one of those be a Terminator Assault squad to open up another Land Raider purchase (-110 for weapons options +295 for fully rigged Land Raider )

Jack

Because the new goal seems to be just seeing how expensive it can be regardless of a competitive concept as originally expressed by the OP I present the following as max point lists for the DE

DE Kabal - 7774
and
DE Wych Cult - 7990

Theoretically there are extra points to be had in Warp Beasts, but since they are outside of the FOC they are not included here for the same logic as the Spawn situation.



HQ: Archon (12#, 806 pts)
1 Archon @ 806 pts (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Retinue
7 Incubi (Shredder x2; Tormentor Helm; Punisher x5; Plasma Grenades)
1 Drazhar (Disembowler Blades; Tormentor Helm)
1 Incubi Master (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Gruesome Talisman; Hell Mask; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Plasma Grenades (Squad))
1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

HQ: Wych Dracite (11#, 635 pts)
1 Wych Dracite @ 635 pts (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Crucible of Malediction ; Hell Mask; Webway Portal)
8 Wych Retinue (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Terrorfex; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))
1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Elite: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Elite: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Elite: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 431 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 431 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Animus Vitae; Nightmare Doll; Reaver Jetbike)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 430 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 430 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Haywire Grenades; Archangel of Pain; Goblet of Spite; Xenospasm; Reaver Jetbike)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 429 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 429 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Gruesome Talisman; Hell Mask; Shadow Field; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades; Reaver Jetbike)

Total Roster Cost: 7774

==================================================================

HQ: Wych Archite (8#, 611 pts)
1 Wych Archite @ 611 pts (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
5 Wych Retinue (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

HQ: Wych Dracite (11#, 635 pts)
1 Wych Dracite @ 635 pts (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Crucible of Malediction ; Hell Mask; Webway Portal)
8 Wych Retinue (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Terrorfex; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))
1 Raider (Dark Lance; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Elite: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Elite: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Elite: Raider Squad (11#, 381 pts)
9 Raider Squad @ 381 pts (Shredder; Splinter Rifle x7; Splinter Cannon; Raider)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Webway Portal)
1 Raider (Disentegrator; Horrorfex; Nightshields; Screaming Jets; Scythes; Slave Snares; Torture Amp; Trophy Rack)

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Troops: Wyches (20#, 518 pts)
19 Wyches @ 518 pts (Close Combat Weapon; Splinter Pistol; Wych Weapons; Shredder x2; Combat Drugs; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Wych Weapons; Combat Drug Dispenser; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Webway Portal; Haywire Grenades (Squad); Plasma Grenades (Squad))

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Heavy Support: Scourges (10#, 401 pts)
9 Scourges @ 401 pts (Splinter Rifle x5; Dark Lance x4)
1 Sybarite (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Webway Portal)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 431 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 431 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Animus Vitae; Nightmare Doll; Reaver Jetbike)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 430 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 430 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Hell Mask; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Haywire Grenades; Archangel of Pain; Goblet of Spite; Xenospasm; Reaver Jetbike)

Fast Attack: Reaver Jetbike Squad (10#, 429 pts)
9 Reaver Jetbike Squad @ 429 pts (Splinter Pistol; Shredder x2; Splinter Rifle x7; Combat Drugs; Reaver Jetbike)
1 Succubus (Agoniser; Power Weapon; Splinter Rifle x1; Combat Drug Dispenser; Gruesome Talisman; Hell Mask; Shadow Field; Soulseeker Ammuniton; Terrorfex; Tormentor Helm; Trophy Rack; Haywire Grenades; Plasma Grenades; Reaver Jetbike)

Validation Report:
1. Dark Eldar Army: Wyche Cult; c-1. File Version: 1.05c For Bug Reports/www.ab40k.org; b-1. Roster Options: Special Characters; a-1. Scenario: Normal Mission
Total points exceed maximum allowed roster size (max 1500).

Total Roster Cost: 7990

Jackmojo wrote:

reidy1113 wrote:
I can beat you though with my Blood Angels List:

HQ:
2xHonour Guard with Blood Champions, Dual Thunder Hammers, Jump Packs, Infernus Pistols, Meltabombs and one Squad with Company Standard the other with Chapter Banner both in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 1807

Can't do dual thunderhammers and an infernus pistol, they only have two weapons to trade.

Actually they have 3 weapons to trade

Blood Angel Beat ALL

I feel even happier nao.

@reidy1113:
No, actually, if you look at the Honour Guard entry, they have
"Bolt Pistol or Bolter
Chainsword"
not all three. In addition, you cannot take a LR for a unit that has jump packs.

Mine is the highest legal army.

Yeah, reidy1113, you cheated!

How could you fail getting the correct points cost for the Honour Guards?

5 Honour Guards, 5 dual hammers, 5 meltabombs, Chapter Banner, Land Raider, Storm bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile, Multi-melta, Extra Armour, Search light 766

5 Honour Guards, 5 dual hammers, 5 meltabombs, Company Standard, Land Raider, Storm bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile, Multi-melta, Extra Armour, Search light 751

HQ=2012

A-P wrote: Based on the latest, here is the collected list. The Blood Angels hold the first post...

1) Blood Angels: 27791

Who made a 27791 pts list for Blood Angels?

The correct Blood Angels army list for this thread can ONLY be:

HQ =2052

The Sanguinor -275

Astorath The Grim -220

5 Honour Guards, Blood Champion, 5 dual hammers, company standard, melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -771

5 Honour Guards, Blood Champion, 5 dual hammers, chapter banner, melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -786

Elite =2403

10 Terminators, 2 assault cannons, 9 chainfists, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -801

10 Terminators, 2 assault cannons, 9 chainfists, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -801

10 Terminators, 2 assault cannons, 9 chainfists, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -801

Troops =17250

30 Death Company, 30 dual hammers, 30 jump packs, Lemartes -3000

30 x Death Company, dual hammers, jump packs -2850

30 x Death Company, dual hammers, jump packs -2850

30 x Death Company, dual hammers, jump packs -2850

30 x Death Company, dual hammers, jump packs -2850

30 x Death Company, dual hammers, jump packs -2850

Fast Attack =3738

10 Vanguard Veterans, 10 dual hammers, melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -1246

10 Vanguard Veterans, 10 dual hammers, melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -1246

10 Vanguard Veterans, 10 dual hammers, melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -1246

Heavy Support =1863

10 Devastators, 4 Las Cannons, dual powerfists, Melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -621

10 Devastators, 4 Las Cannons, dual powerfists, Melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -621

10 Devastators, 4 Las Cannons, dual powerfists, Melta bombs, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -621

Total =27306

I win, I have the biggest LEGAL list?

Sorry that I got some of the rules wrong in my very large Blood Angels list post. I have edited the changes now.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm sorry that I got some of the rules wrong guys. I have edited my Blood Angels list and it is still the largest Blood Angels army.

The 14k Space Wolves list is wrong because taking Logan changes wolf guard to troops and thus they can't take elite slots. I'm not at home right now so I can't redo it. I think if you took Logan and 3 fully upgraded wolf lords you'd have the max Hq. The scouts from the earlier list would be max elites. The wolf guard troop units I believe are correct but I don't remember if wolf guard are limited to just one land raider dedicated transport or if they van all take them. Twolf cav are correct in the FA slots and the long fangs plus dedicated transports are the most expensive HS.

Anyway, bottomline, Wolves can't get up to 14k, if someone could do the correction before I get home, yay.

So who is going to create these....abominations for want of a better discription on Vassal and post a picture of the deployment zone?

Andrew

And the latest collected update:

1) Blood Angels: 26941
2) Imperial Guard: 25604
3) Space Wolves: 14310* This result has been challenged*
4) Space Marines: 12230
5) Black Templars: 11562
6) Orks: 10365
7) Chaos Space Marines: 10255 ( Not counting Spawn/Summoned Daemons )
8) Witch Hunters: 10060 ( mono-Codex )
9) Tyranids: 9965 ( Multiple contenders, but all consistently hitting the 99xx mark. )
10) Daemon Hunters: 9246 ( mono-Codex )
11) Dark Angels: 9200 ( This is the 3rd offered result so far . Please verify. )
12) Tau Empire: 8745
13) Eldar: 8217
14) Dark Eldar: Kabal 7774 / Wych Cult 7990 ( Not counting Warp Beasts )
15) Chaos Daemons: 6495
16) Necrons: 5385

The largest Wolf list I could get was 9900ish - Logan, Bjorn (he is 290 fully decked out) and two wolf lords with only a different Saga and Melta bomb between them, 6 units of 10 WG Termies, one with dedicated LR rest with dedicated Razorbacks. Filled rest with as many points as would fit.

reidy1113 wrote:
Fast Attack:
3x 10 Man Vanguard Veteran Squad with Dual Thunder Hammers, Melta Bombs all in Fully upgraded Land Raiders - 3483

You've cheated again. Your Terminators are cheaper than they could be, but that's for the hammers I guess. Please tell me how you calculated points for the Vanguard Veteran Squads. Did you notice that the sergeant already has a power weapon, and therefore only pays 15 points for a thunder hammer? How can you make a 10-man Devastator unit cost MORE than mine?

10 Devastators, 4 Las Cannons, dual powerfists, Land Raider, Storm Bolter, Multi-melta, hunter-killer missile, extra armour, search light -621

vs.

10 Man Devastator Sqauds with 4 Lascannons, Seargeant with Dual Power Fists and Melta Bombs in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 646

When we're speaking about 170+100+25+25+5+250+15+10+10+10+1?

reidy1113 wrote:
2xHonour Guard with Blood Champions, Dual Thunder Hammers, Meltabombs and one Squad with Company Standard the other with Chapter Banner both in fully upgraded Land Raiders - 1557

Can one Honour Guard (Boltgun/boltpistol + chainsword) be upgraded to a Blood Champion (Power weapon + combat shield) and get a total amount of wargear:

Boltgun + chainsword + power weapon + combat shield?

My list is still the highest LEGAL list this far.

Hey, the DE list would be 75 points bigger if you include a Warp Beasts unit. If you include at least 1 Wyches unit you are allowed to add a unique unit wich doesn't need a slot in Elite options!

Guys. I have not meant to cheat with my Blood Angels army. I just got a couple of the rules wrong. Gimme a break, I've only just started playing Blood Angels and haven't been playing 40K for that long at all. I've edited in changes and it's as legal as I can see atm. Sorry if I've annoyed people. God. Shoot me why don't you guys. Seriously. I'm sorry I got it wrong to start but my addition of points is definitely not wrong because I used an army list maker calculator. It's just some rules that I got wrong. Sorry again.

Baxx wrote:
Can one Honour Guard (Boltgun/boltpistol + chainsword) be upgraded to a Blood Champion (Power weapon + combat shield) and get a total amount of wargear:

Boltgun + chainsword + power weapon + combat shield?

My list is still the highest LEGAL list this far.

He ought to be able to buy upgrades before going champion (like the ork shoota nob) so he should swap his bolter and chainsword for something more expensive.

Jack

I was at a GT this weekend; just edited to post high scores.