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Thanks a lot Lt. Coldfire, you have opened my eyes . Now to grab me a copy of Airsoft International hehe.


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One last question please. What gun is best, spring, elec. or gas?

Electric is what you should get for sure

Yeah, electric.

Its been quite some time since I've played airsoft. About 6 years ago I was really into it with a close knit group of friends. Has the airsoft scene changed much still then? Are AEG's still good? Is Tokyo Marui still considered a reputable company or are there other choices besides them? I remember Classic Army being an ok option, but they often times came broken in the box. Any good companies for Gas Pistols and such? I really don't know anything anymore since its been so long.

Red Comet wrote:Its been quite some time since I've played airsoft. About 6 years ago I was really into it with a close knit group of friends. Has the airsoft scene changed much still then? Are AEG's still good? Is Tokyo Marui still considered a reputable company or are there other choices besides them? I remember Classic Army being an ok option, but they often times came broken in the box. Any good companies for Gas Pistols and such? I really don't know anything anymore since its been so long.

Tokyo Marui are considered over-priced, I haven't seen many, there are many reputable companies out there and general quality has improved even in just the last few years. Why not peruse Evike.com if you're just browsing.

I bought this... Or rather, I contributed some cash to the purchase of it.

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/JG_BAR_10_Airsoft_Bolt_Action_Sniper_w_Scope_p/jg-366a.htm

Only paid 111$ with a coupon code, plus, we got 5000 BBs.

Should be a good sniper for our price range. If it turns out both of us hate sniping, we only spent 100 bucks and got a free scope to put on our AEGs

TM is still a great brand, but there is A LOT more to choose from now-a-days. Honestly, I'd pick up a KWA or G&G before a Tokyo Marui any more haha. And yes, AEGs are the the dominant players. Classic Army makes some really good stuff now...Echo1 used to be great, but they don't seem to make a lot of guns any more...Ares makes some decent guns, but their parts are expensive if something goes wrong...that's all that comes to mind off hand. I don't know much about GBB pistols, sorry

TMs are garbage, IMO. I've picked up and fooled around with a few TM M4 varieties, but they all fell short on feel, from what I could tell. Their appeal is that the internals are great, and that you should spend money to upgrade the internals.

But if I was going to spend 400$+ on a single AEG, I would probably buy a classic army or a KWA and spend a little bit on a better motor and gears and such. KWAs are great, and certain police departments and training organizations use them because of their reliability and realism.

Classic Army is a personal favorite of mine because they make an absolutely perfect M16a1, and a top of the line M14. I love american guns.

KWA makes the absolutely undisputed best GBB pistols. They mimic the weight, feel, balance and action of a real firearm. KJW makes pretty good ones too, and WE is just below that.

Wow I'm looking around and the prices are so inflated. I wouldn't touch a Tokyo Marui right now with a 10 foot pole. I remember getting a AK-47 Beta Spetsnaz for like 275.00 shipped back in 2004. That was a good price. Now even a normal AK-47 is like 400 dollars. That's really messed up. Are these price rises recent or has it slowly increased over the years?

Samus_aran115 wrote:What kind of range and accuracy do you get with your rifle? I've been hankering for a no-nonsense, Spring, long ranged gun.

I keep coming back to this:http://www.hitguns.com/Well-L96-AWP-Airsoft-Sniper-Rifle-w-3-9x40-Scope-p/well-mb01-awp-scope-bipod.htm

But honestly, I can't think about a sniper yet. This one is apparently pretty good. Nice easy dissesembly and cleaning. Plus, comes with a scope and bipod, which is kind of rare for guns of this price range.

Well, my KJW rifle carbine thing is gas, and it is about 500 fps right our the barrel, which may (WILL) be too hot for close quarters stuff. As a light sniper, it is pretty awesome. With a scope, you'll probably hit within the first shot, if not, it is semi automatic so you can keep poppin' em off. The range is pretty good as well (good enough for forest combat, but I don't know an exact number). It has a rail system on top too for optics. With most sniper rifles, you will probably want to have a good gas pistol that doesn't fire too high FPS to shoot someone from 10-15 feet away, or else you might give your friends bigger welts than you want.

Me and my friends pretty much comprise our 2 local teams. There are about 4 constant players on each team, but random other friends are sometimes added on, and we rotate a fair bit. It's pretty much backyard (back woods actually) airsoft with tactics, camo, and good guns. The team that I usually play on actually is pretty much a team of only scout snipers, including me. Only one of us has a fully automatic gun, which is a gas blowback g18 as a sidearm. The rest of us have semi auto (that's me!) or bolt action guns. I find gas guns to be more reliable because the don't BREAK CONSTANTLY.

There are AEG's on the other team, but only 2 good quality ones. I've actually got a friend who uses a spring wal-mart shotgun with a scope, black spray paint, and taped togethor mags as a primary. Does pretty well though because he knows his role and knows how to use it.

And as a matter of fact, I have an airsoft war to participate in this weekend! It's a bit different though, because it's me and 3 others with good guns versus a HORDE of little kids with spring guns and cheap electrics. Gonna be epic lol. We've got a barn that we try to hold against their unending tide. They can "respawn" in this situation, but we can't.




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Red Comet wrote:Wow I'm looking around and the prices are so inflated. I wouldn't touch a Tokyo Marui right now with a 10 foot pole. I remember getting a AK-47 Beta Spetsnaz for like 275.00 shipped back in 2004. That was a good price. Now even a normal AK-47 is like 400 dollars. That's really messed up. Are these price rises recent or has it slowly increased over the years?

www.airsoftgi.com
www.evike.com
www.airsplat.com

There you go. Lower prices.




And I've never bought an AEG, because they always seem to break. Gas guns just don't break. If a seal is broken, get an o ring or at worst a new mag. You don't have to spend a crapton for repairs or throw your gun away lol.

GalacticDefender wrote:
And I've never bought an AEG, because they always seem to break. Gas guns just don't break. If a seal is broken, get an o ring or at worst a new mag. You don't have to spend a crapton for repairs or throw your gun away lol.

I've always felt AEGs to be easier to repair and maintain as well as upgrade, you could always swap motors, springs, tappet plates, mosfet chips, tight-bore barrels, fuses etc without a hassle. The only major problem would probably be either a multiple system failure where a lot of stuff ends up broken, or a gearbox break but that shouldn't happen if you have a metal one.

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GalacticDefender wrote:
And I've never bought an AEG, because they always seem to break. Gas guns just don't break. If a seal is broken, get an o ring or at worst a new mag. You don't have to spend a crapton for repairs or throw your gun away lol.

I've always felt AEGs to be easier to repair and maintain as well as upgrade, you could always swap motors, springs, tappet plates, mosfet chips, tight-bore barrels, fuses etc without a hassle. The only major problem would probably be either a multiple system failure where a lot of stuff ends up broken, or a gearbox break but that shouldn't happen if you have a metal one.

Me and several friends have had bad experiences with AEGs. Though I will probably get one around springtime anyway.

I'm back everybody MUAAAAAAAAAA HA HA. I asked for information on airsoft and such, you all replied so thanks a lot. I asked on which gun type is better, you all replied so again thanks a lot. I return with another question for you all if you would be so nice as to answer.

I do have an airsoft/bb rifle but it's a crappy spring M41K I bought from the local gadget-y shop for 50 euros. I really want to get into the sport as it's the first sport, beside football and that's only because I support Birmingham City, that I could get into.

You all said electric is best right. I've found an Umarex H&K G36C on M.I.A (Main Irish Airsoft) for 134 euros. I will get dead into the sport but it will take far too long to save up for a proper rifle, so what's everyone think? Here's the link: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=998

I would definitely say save up for a good, quality rifle. You'll spend more money in the long run if you start with a crappy gun, then get a decent gun, then eventually get the good gun you always wanted. Forget the formers and just save up to get the latter. Plus, the resale value will be much better on a good gun anyways.

I've been out of the airsoft loop for a couple years, so I don't know anything about that company you're talking about. Other people on the thread are recommending Classic Army and KWA though, which I recall being well establishes companies and produce good quality guns. KWA especially produces outstanding gas blowback pistols at very reasonable prices IMO for the quality of awesomeness you get. I do know Classic Army can have internal problems though, which are an easy fix (aka upgrade) for someone who KNOWS what they're doing. The external parts are rock solid though.

As for TM (Tokyo Marui), the internal parts have been known to be very reliable, but I would recommend against them because of their external parts. This is, assuming they still sell their guns with plastic bodies. I recall a few years back my friend fell in the woods and the body of his TM M4A1 cracked like Humpty Dumpty. Not something worth repeating, I'll tell you that. And with a metal body you can be sure that's far less likely.

Lt. Coldfire wrote:I would definitely say save up for a good, quality rifle. You'll spend more money in the long run if you start with a crappy gun, then get a decent gun, then eventually get the good gun you always wanted. Forget the formers and just save up to get the latter. Plus, the resale value will be much better on a good gun anyways.

I've been out of the airsoft loop for a couple years, so I don't know anything about that company you're talking about. Other people on the thread are recommending Classic Army and KWA though, which I recall being well establishes companies and produce good quality guns. KWA especially produces outstanding gas blowback pistols at very reasonable prices IMO for the quality of awesomeness you get. I do know Classic Army can have internal problems though, which are an easy fix (aka upgrade) for someone who KNOWS what they're doing. The external parts are rock solid though.

I have just read this month's issue of Ai's (Airsoft International) Letter of the Month and have decided you're right. I didn't think you were wrong though, I have just conceded to the fact that I should instead save up the cash for a decent, good quality rifle rather than messing around with cheeper and crappier makes that are 20 times more likely to malfunction.

I'm still sticking to a G36C as those guns are just so bloody cool imo. Would somebody give me their opinion on this: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=913

Here's a better price. Seems very nice.


http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=37095

Lt. Coldfire wrote:If you want a sniper rifle, then get a sniper rifle: http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4037
Tad expensive, but that thing will give you more of the sniper role everyone thinks about when they think "sniper". I use to play airsoft all the time with the guy who makes those rifles (yes, he hand makes some of the parts including the barrel, and guarantees his work) and he could hit targets at 100 yards fairly accurately, and getting a few of those 400ft "miracle" hits is not out of the question. If you've ever played at Ford Ord then chances are you've seen him walking around with it. His name's Mike, he's got a bald head, long goatee thing, and quite a bit of tatoos that always get a double take, but he's a super nice guy.

I had an upgraded Maruzen L96 when I use to play and that thing also shot really well, but the accuracy wasn't nearly as consistent as the one above. Still though, I'd recommend it for the price.
However, if you want one gun that does everything all the other guns do, I'd say get a PTW MAX. Extremely reliable, very accurate, very real, and you can switch out like 4-5 different springs (M100 - M150 I think). The 3 round burst on the M16 sometimes makes me cry, especially when you here a *tap* *tap* *tap* on your target.

Yeppers, if you want 'the best' M-16, M-4 platform airsoft rifle, you can't get much better then a Systema PTW. Mine had a Diemaco C7 lower on it with a rail system on the front. The thing was great, shot like a hot-damn.. Times got tough and I had to sell it. Great thing about Airsoft guns in canada is that they don't go down in price. If you pick up a gun for 500 bucks and keep it in good working order you can atleast get your $500 out of it.. Not like some plastic/resintastic little figgies I know of.

I could never justify 1500 clams on a single airsoft. For that much, I could buy three VFC M4s, or a combination of other things.

It does seem nice though.

Samus_aran115 wrote:I could never justify 1500 clams on a single airsoft. For that much, I could buy three VFC M4s, or a combination of other things.

It does seem nice though.

Yeah, the real gun I'm eying is $1500, but there are better things to spend the money on.

Thinking about buying this bad boy
http://www.airsoftgi.com/mobile/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=4759

Opinions?

Wait, who said this thread died?

killykavekommando wrote:Wait, who said this thread died?

It faded out a little bit back there...

G&P and Kings Arms produce excellent M4's and M16's, beautiful externals, solid as a rock, and reliable internals.

They are expensive, but if i was to buy an M4 variant, it would be a G&P or Kings Arms any day of the week.


As far as toyko marui are concerned, the pistols are reliable, accurate and work in cold weather. But lack the feel metal.... which i love. Their AEG's i wont go near, as i think they feel very plastic-y for the price you pay. They might be reliable, but they feel cheap to me.


Dan

TM's plastic guns don't bother me so much, especially when the real versions are plastic too

good point, i love my TM Glock since its plastic in real life. Its more the rifles that dont feel "right" for the lack of a way of describing it.

Dan

Samus_aran115 wrote:I could never justify 1500 clams on a single airsoft. For that much, I could buy three VFC M4s, or a combination of other things.

It does seem nice though.

PTW's are expensive, but like Mike said they pretty much hold their value as long as you take care of them. It's more like borrowing.
A bigger concern is the number of complainers and protestors you'll face when you steamroll them with the PTW.

crimsonfist832 wrote:You all said electric is best right. I've found an Umarex H&K G36C on M.I.A (Main Irish Airsoft) for 134 euros. I will get dead into the sport but it will take far too long to save up for a proper rifle, so what's everyone think? Here's the link: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=998

That gun is really good, but the stock hopup bucking is complete garbage; so upgrade is asap when/if you get it. Also, if anything else goes bad, you'll be spending some money since Ares parts aren't the cheapest (iirc).

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Thinking about buying this bad boy
http://www.airsoftgi.com/mobile/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=4759
Opinions?

A friend of mine just got one of these, and he really likes it. All he did was put a tightbore in it...so far it's performing quite well. The only problem I have is that is seems really small to me (and I'm 5'7" so that's saying something haha), but that's my only complaint.

mega_bassist wrote:

crimsonfist832 wrote:You all said electric is best right. I've found an Umarex H&K G36C on M.I.A (Main Irish Airsoft) for 134 euros. I will get dead into the sport but it will take far too long to save up for a proper rifle, so what's everyone think? Here's the link: http://www.mainirishairsoft.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=998

That gun is really good, but the stock hopup bucking is complete garbage; so upgrade is asap when/if you get it. Also, if anything else goes bad, you'll be spending some money since Ares parts aren't the cheapest (iirc).

If I remember correctly, that gun is lisenced by H&K, it's b-e-a-utiful!

Oh, it's dead sexy. I almost picked one up, but I saved up and bought a G&G F2000 instead

EDIT: and the Blowback system on the G36 is flippin awesome

TM's are nice but not worth the price.
KWA's are where its at for me. Bought a M16 varient AEG, used it A LOT, still runs like its brand new.