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Agreed, it is a corker of a movie!

Quality movie - you do need to see it Yggs As Gits stated, probably the finest example of WWII misfits

Love that movie!
"You lost my surveillance photographs?"

Hunting Report: Have seen 3 does, 6 fawns, 2 red fox, piliated woodpecker at close range and a million noisy little birds & squirrels. I don't shoot mamas with fawns (it's legal to shoot does and fawns here) so just enjoyed the view. One set came within 30' feet of me. Weather in unseasonably warm so it's been a real joy to sit in the woods. No work on the minis but Thing 1 and I are embroiled in a 3400 point game and Thing 2 is building his own terrain!



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3400 pt. game with Thing 1 is amazingly fun. Very push/shove. Basically who's winning depends on who's just gotten their turn. Right now it looks like I have a commanding lead but I think his next turn is going to shift the balance. We're kind of playing things out a turn every day or so. I am taking a few pics so will have something to show when it's done. This is without question the largest battle I've been in since probably 2nd edition. We're letting Thing 2 roll to see if orks pop out of the ruins (so he can join in)... so far a small squad of boys has wiped out one of my devastator squads and gretchin have annoyed both his scarabs and one of my sternguard squads.

"Why don't you say something hopeful for a change" lol !

Could be fun (though looks quite outdated lol)...

As for the game... Hope you'll come on top !

Whipped out some test legs in the wee hours (bloody insomnia). Some fairly crude wet blending but they'll do to experiment on.

Looking forward to the game pictures.

Nice yellow...

It actually looks decent when not super-magnified... but as I said, a quick-and-dirty job. Paints weren't thinned enough for real wet blending effects.

Next step, I'll paint one or two of the camo florets to use as our yard marker, then on to the GS work.

Long time since I`ve commented here, but nice to see you in the swing of things again Gits

R

Thanks Red, really nice to have you back. Prompted me to take a look at your Night Lords blog. Very impressive work. Love to see those old minis with life breathed into them again.

Cheers mate Do check out the wolfwing in my sig, they`re both older yet newer

Out of curiosity though, you might have mentioned it but I`ll ask the same. You`re not bitten by the FW HH bug then?

R

I tried, but I can't get there from here. Will check it out this evening.

I'll be honest... no. Not that I in any way object to it in principal... I think it's great that they're finally addressing this in some formal way. I just have way too much to paint. I'm trying to advance or maintain 5 armies already and get around to putting the final touches on 1 more. I'm just swamped. Much as I would love to get into it, there's no room in my life for another army and/or gaming system. There's a reason poor Yggs has been waiting a year for his marine and BLACKHAND and Inmygravenimage have been waiting a lot longer. I spent the summer tying up loose (painting) ends & am still trying to finish up my marine swaps. I picked an army for Adepticon so I had to paint as few figures as possible while still providing a viable army for my team. I'm divesting myself of most of my Eldar. Just too much 40k for one man to handle (well, this man anyway). Time to start picking my battles.

My bad, the link didn`t work. Should be sorted now.

Yeah I can see that without a doubt. For me it`s two things:
1) the mystery is kinda gone now with minis for everything on it`s way.
2) FW is just way over my budget, at least as far as army building goes. I have indulged myself and bought a contemptor for myself as a christmas present though.

One thing I`ve done the last two years is setting a clear goal with the armies I build. This being the comps for the tournies I can attend to. Even if I struggle with hobby ADD as most of us do this has helped me in completing two armies for WHFB in two years and well on my way for two more for 40K (Wolfwing and Night Lords) sometime next year.

As a last question for this time. Do you really own that much vintage/OOP stuff or do you re-cast? I`m nearing the end of my supplies and I consider on trying out instant mold to get some more at hand before I build and paint all of it.

R

I own it. A decent chunk was stuff that I purchase new (at the time), another chuck was purchased used, a third chunk has been gifts from well-wishers... which are totally undeserved but very gratefully accepted.



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So, here we have the normally painted test left leg (or right as you look at it). The tendril leg is the right leg (or left as you look at the photo). The bottom of the grouping on the right outer leg isn't quite as blobby as it looks in the picture, just hard to get a good angle with the camera. It was also my first attempt. The inner leg and thigh tendrils look better as I got some practice.



Not bad.

Gitsplitta wrote:There's a reason poor Yggs has been waiting a year for his marine and BLACKHAND and Inmygravenimage have been waiting a lot longer.

*cough* 26th January 2011 *cough*

Gitsplitta wrote:So, here we have the normally painted test left leg (or right as you look at it). The tendril leg is the right leg (or left as you look at the photo). The bottom of the grouping on the right outer leg isn't quite as blobby as it looks in the picture, just hard to get a good angle with the camera. It was also my first attempt. The inner leg and thigh tendrils look better as I got some practice.



Not bad.

Hey, it looks great indeed ! I have to admit, the "inner leg" tendrils do look much better than the "outer leg" ones...

I guess it'll look awesome on a chaosified Marine !

(Also... Now you just have to put a torso & base on that pair of legs, for it'd be a waste not to use them !!! )

Hell yeah Gits! that looks wicked! I love the 'carnage symbiote' feel to the legs where the camo wraps around! you need to add a whole body now! getting progressively more chaos-y

I like that a lot, Gits. The inner leg is a little better, butbI almost like the way the camo on the outer leg pops. On the inner leg, though, I like how subtle it is. It looks like, at a certain angle, you might not notice it's 3d.

I really like your interpretation of the camo pattern. It could have looked overly cheesy but it doesn`t look that at all. Btw, I want to see more guys without helms like the epic heavy flamer marine you made last year or something like that

R

Man, you love yellow, don't you ?
Did you get a price reduction on yellow paints ? ^^

It's good to see a non-common Space Marines Chapter.
I really like the plasma launchers. The blue OSL litterally pops up on the yellow armour. Well done. And I love these old-school models by the way.

The Alive camo looks good Gitsplitta.

I would suggest on the final mini that only some of the camo is fully alive, some painted on as normal and some inbetween with one or two of the prongs alive and the rest still painted on. It would give the impression that it's a dynamic process that's not complete.

The funny thing is that the hardest thing to do is getting the damn GS to stick to the figure and not whatever I'm trying to apply it with!

@Dr H: An excellent suggestion and one that I've already started on the test mini. I don't know if you can see it but none of the camo florets (not even the outside leg one) are completely tendrilized. On the main mini... it'll be a mix of painted, sculpted & partially sculpted.

@Minus: Thanks for stopping & commenting. You'd think I'd get some kind of discount by now wouldn't you? They just smile and take my money. I'm pleased with the way the plasma cannons turned out. Still room for improvement, but a good start.

@Red: Problem is I have kind of a philosophical problem with marines in combat without their helms... but I'm not ruling them out, I do have plenty of bare heads in my bits box to play with.

@YB: I actually struggled with that when taking the photos. Even the pattern on the outside leg isn't all that obvious depending on the angle. You really have to be able to manipulate the figure to have the sculpted bits jump out at you.

@Yggs & NF: I guess I can finish it at some point. Put it up for trade or something (so the next person doesn't have to wait 23 months for theirs). *sigh*

@Yggs: Glad you like it ol' son. I think it'll look good and I can do some fun stuff with the extending tendrils that I don't do with normally painted florets.

That is an awesome idea Gits , the execution is just about perfect too. Knowing me, I'd over do it, but you've managed to do it nicely

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The funny thing is that the hardest thing to do is getting the damn GS to stick to the figure and not whatever I'm trying to apply it with!

@Dr H: An excellent suggestion and one that I've already started on the test mini. I don't know if you can see it but none of the camo florets (not even the outside leg one) are completely tendrilized. On the main mini... it'll be a mix of painted, sculpted & partially sculpted.

Oh I see. So they are... Eyesight fail. Carry on.

And yeah getting putty to stay where you want it and not keep coming off with your finger or impliment is blooming tricky. Water is supposed to stop it sticking to the tools, but it difficult to get the tool wet and not the putty and then it still won't stay stuck to the mini...
I've seen Vaseline is supposed to work well to stop it sticking, maybe coating your tool will help.


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Also, that does mean that the GS gets covered in Vaseline and would require cleaning before painting and if you're like me, you'll break it off while cleaning it...

That's why I suggested making the tendrils separate from the mini and then sticking them on afterwards.

Water helps, but you can use a little vaseline to really help slide it off your finger or sculpting tool.

I think the tendrils from the camo look really good and honestly, better than I expected (no offense). I don't think what I was picturing in my head was the same, but now I really like the effect and you've done a great job with it. Yggs's guy should look totally awesome when he's done.

Gits that looks WICKED! I love it!

Throwing in my 2 cents on GS- I just lick my tools all the time. keeps them wet and prevents sticking. Ive also heard of people waiting like 15 mins after mixing GS before they work with it. Id imagine it gets less tacky.

@Alf: Thanks! Moderation my friend... it's the key when engaging in "risky" behavior.

@Dr H: I had heard about the water and Vaseline tricks... but since this was a Q&D mock-up I did't bother... also I painted them immediately after attaching them, don't think that would've worked if they were all lubed up! I'm just too impatient to build it on one mini, wait for it to cure, then move it to another... though in my limited experience the less you move GS'd objects around, the better.

@Moltar: None taken mate, it was something I *thought* should be pretty straight forward but you never know until you try it.

@Ramos: Thanks! I have experimented with that before. It's also less likely to pick up finger prints or tool marks. To get it to adhere to the mini I'd have to add a little super glue... not a big deal, but not something I was going to venture on a test model. Also I wouldn't be able to position the tendrils to take advantage of the model's form... well, not as nicely as I can if the tendrils are soft when attached.

I have been thinking over my experience and I think there's a very minor thing I can do that will help make them blend at the base better. Not sure how much time I'll have over the Thanksgiving holiday... but I think I'm close to the final push. Might need some "private time" after T-day dinner which would be great for some intense, focused modeling.

If we're talking GS tips, get colour shapers. Without doubt the best tool for gs, made of silicone so they dont stick to it.

Have 'em. Been using them to smooth out the applied tendril but not to transfer it... I do need the tendril to stick to whatever's moving it with being deformed too badly by the contact.

Oh, then if you're still having problems with sticking, waiting 15-30 mins for it to partially cure works well. Though you do have to be careful not to mix too much, as the added waiting time means that it hardens
quicker (obviously)


edit: just saw your edit, perhaps make the tendrils first, let them cure, stick them on, and then apply a little gs to smooth the join?

OK Vit, thanks!