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Is the second LS that banged up? Some brownstuff might be good for surface damage, and plasticard is nifty for constructing new or unique parts. Show a pic and lets assess the damage

R

 Gitsplitta wrote:
I never liked the clip so I'm making a box with a magnet on top so I can just drop whatever gun on I want onto the mount. The addition up side is that the gun can actually traverse the rail.

Wow! That's... going to be awesome. If you think of it, please take a picture of how it's built. The gun rail looks good, and the pilot came out nice? Those are some rather old bits, I think.. Looking forward to see how it turns out.

Rhinos look good. Nice clean paint job.

The Landspeeder will look good done to the same standard as your current work.
Rail is cool and a traversing gun will be very cool.

Sorry Snrub, I'm not up on Insane Clown Posse lyrics. My bad.

@Briancj: No, sorry... the shoulder pads were trashed during the arm removal process... it's just the bodies and the heads.

@Red: You're just TRYING to invent more work for me aren't you??

@Dr H: Thanks. I hope so. I mocked up the system and it seems to work just fine. I won't assemble the traverse until the rail is fully painted (which I'll probably do today).

@YB: Sure thing matey. It's actually a really simple little system. We'll see how it looks once it's all together. The driver is actually just a combination of the original plastic beakie head, torso and shoulders with the LS driver's arms trimmed down so the beakie pads will go over them. I'm working on the gunner's body now... once that's fitted, it's into the dip for the speeder!

Oh Gitz i'm right there with you. I know exactly dick about them too except a friend has that one line repeating over and over again as his mobile phone ringtone. So it has, for better or worse, become ingrained in my head.

Yes, yes I am Besides you said so yourself that you where making a storm of a progress so don`t blame me

But I seriously think that salvaging that LS will be a good excercise that only will improve your already great skillset

R

Quick tut on the traversing gun mount. I just realized that pictures for Step #1 and Step #1 are reversed. Sorry.

1. Took a slice of a square piece of plastic tubing and cut off one edge so I could get it around the bar. This would be totally unnecessary if you just slipped the little square on before either bending the corner or adding the support bar. The square tubing will keep the gun level against the body of the LS.

2. Added a thin sheet of styrene to close the box, trimmed excess. Very careful with the glue here kids, you want only the styrene box to be glued together.

3. Added rare earth magnet. Again, very thorough but very careful glue job.

4. (not pictured) Recessed matching magnet into base of gun after removing little plastic clamp (original attachment for gun).

5. Place rail on LS and drop gun onto mount... easy! First pic shows gun over by the support bar, next pic shows it pushed the other way. It's tilted up because the belt feed gets in the way but there's enough slush in the system that you can still get it over there without a problem.

6. And of course because it's mounted by round magnets the gun can swivel in place as well.



The whole arrangement still isn't attached... it's just pressure fit into the holes for the weapon mount. If you really wanted to be fancy you could permanently attach a gunner's body to the gun and have it pinned (no glue) to the legs so it would pivot. That way the gunner would be facing the right direction all the time, but you'd need a new gunner for each gun. You could probably do this with magnets as well but I'm not sure it'll be worth the effort. I may try it though... just for giggles.

Very interesting. Simple but effective.

I was going to ask what you were going to do about the gunner, but I see you have thought about it.

However, a thought on the problem, You could attach the gunner's arms and the trigger mechanism / handles to the plastic box under the gun and not attach it to the gun itself. Make it look like that's how it's supposed to work and then you can swap out the guns, and therefore the gunner, his arms and the handles can all stay in place.

I think that's the way GW has it in the original. Makes perfect sense.

That is some impressive modelling-fu my friend.

Cool. I'm full of good ideas today, yay me!
*ahem*
I wouldn't know about the actual models, I've not seen a landspeeder up close, old or new.

Look forward to seeing it complete.

 Dr H wrote:
Very interesting. Simple but effective.

I was going to ask what you were going to do about the gunner, but I see you have thought about it.

However, a thought on the problem, You could attach the gunner's arms and the trigger mechanism / handles to the plastic box under the gun and not attach it to the gun itself. Make it look like that's how it's supposed to work and then you can swap out the guns, and therefore the gunner, his arms and the handles can all stay in place.

Actually, you gave me an interesting idea Dr H... going to have to 'speriment...

Great modelling skills, always love the clever use of magnets like that, nice work!

Ohh...like the tutorial! What size magnets are you using?

Very nice, Gits. Thanks for the tut!

 wyomingfox wrote:
Ohh...like the tutorial! What size magnets are you using?

1/8"

Awesome setup Gits. Thats perfect for the swappable weapons- I think Im gonna try something similar on my Mek Junka, once I get back to it xD Lots of weapon options there!

You know...what you could do is make a battle damaged version of everything in your army. Then, as your army is destroyed (or not) during a tournament, you put away the "Factory New" models and bring out the "Slightly Used" versions for later rounds.

So you want to effectively double his workload? Are you trying to kill the poor man?

Hey guys. I managed to kill my home internet connection so updates are going to be intermittent and picture free until that gets fixed.

I've modified the heavy bolter slightly by shortening the ammo feed belt, thus allowing the gun to sit more naturally across the entire traverse. I also magnetized a multi-melta to fit the system. Had to remove the power cables (for the same reason as the ammo feed on the HB) but to be honest I don't think it negatively impacts the vehicle at all. The guns just kind of pop into place... it's pretty amazing. I have a picture but no way to upload it at the moment. In retrospect... I think the whole traversing thing is probably not necessary... but it's just as simple to make a system that did traverse as to make one that didn't... so why not?

@Dragon Warrior: Neat idea but just too much work. That being said... any new vehicles i put togetehr (tank-wise) will definately have some weathering/battle damage on them (take a look at the Vindicator I did last year). If I have a chance, I may work on the rhinos a bit to give them some light weathering. It's tough for me because experience with my orks suggests I have a tendency to overdo it... which I don't want to do with my marines. I may do some small arms damage on the LSs... but I just don't see the kind of wear or weathering you get on a tank happening on a skimmer, they just aren't built for it.

Here's the Vindy. No dirt (as of yet), but a little bit banged up on the leading edge... which I like.

I think your overal subtle approach is great, consistant and doesn't distract from the model . My normal peeve about the subject.

I like your Vindicator Gits. That green is so sweet. Especially on the side panels.
And I love this OOP model.

Contrarily to you, I have always imagined the land speeder as quite exposed to damages. Of course, they can't be hit by a rail gun shot and keep flying as if nothing happened.
But in my mind, they fly rapidly at low altitude and are particularly subject to collisions with shrapnels and so on.

Quite like in these illustrations :







Of course, this is MY vision of Land Speeders, and that is why I paint them quite used and weathered (example : http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/397404-Land%20Speeder%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Typhoon%2C%20Ultramarines.html ). I understand if you prefer not to paint damages on yours, only wanted to explain my point of view.

Nice work on that LS Minus... Wow! Still, even that isn't too beat up... chewed on a little, yes. But not too bad at all.

I don't disagree that LSs would be in harne's way... I just don't think they'd survive long enough to get beat ip looking. (those must be 5th edition land speeders)

I can't remember the last time I saw this thread, actually forgot about it. No way possible I'll catch up, so I'll just go forward from here. The traversing mount is brilliant! I can see applications for that in many instances. And the Vindicator is off to a great start, almost sad to thing about the filth that will be visited on it soon as it looks so very cool w/ the 'straight off the factory floor' look.

Subbed (again) and will try to keep up.

Gotta say that land speeder get tore up a bit. I have one in my army that has hundreds of holes in it (well maybe only 50). Its a consistent crowd pleaser. People love it. Pilots get shot sometimes too.

Vindi is very nice chief. I loved the chipped headlight, really cool.

Thanks guys. Hate to re-hash an old model but it does illustrate my point nicely.

Wife fixed the internet so here's the pic for you. You can see how I cut down the ammo feed on the bolter and removed the cables altogether on the multi-melta. No big loss in my opinion.

Nice work on the speeder.

Re damage: While I agree with Minus (I imagine streaks and chips and scrapes more from debris than battle damage, but light arms fire would also suffice), I'd suggest for you adding "minimal" weathering to your vehicles as you do them, slowly increasing the amount over time until you hit a place you are happy with. This way the difference between vehicles will not be so obvious, and you can find that right level for you.

Re gun rail: Nicely done. Does the traversing gun mount come off to be painted separately? Because otherwise keeping it mobile during painting seems like a challenge to me...

Re vindicator: Still like what you did there

Keep up the good work (not that you need the motivation)

 Gitsplitta wrote:
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Are you going to paint the skulls near the main gun? They appear to be just unfinished at the moment.

I dont know if it was intentional or not, but I love how you painted the damaged spotlight on the Vindi. It looks like its busted and not lighting up with the others. Real good light weathering.