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 Celtic Strike wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!

Yeah, same here

I was planning on... but now I'm probably just going to design one...

Curious: Why are you guys using the DA ship vs. the IG one? They both look slick when converted - but I was unsure if there is an advantage in one over the other.

The Dark Angels fighter is fairly similar dimensions wise, and is sort of similar silhouette.
The IG Vendetta is quite differently shaped and sized.

Regarding Ovion's awesome FOC chart of awesome awesomeness:

 Ovion wrote:

Spoiler:

(I don't know if I needed to post the FoC, but I'm gonna use it at every oppurtunity to justify the effort in making it )

So double FOC allows you to take, not only two Allied Detachments, but also two Fortifications and two Lords of War? Yet only one Inquisitorial detachment?

My head hurts slightly but the idea of two BS4 Sororitas superheavies operating in tandem pleases me....

Yeah, the Inquisitorial is a special seperate detachment.
However, if you take it as the Primary, you can take it twice I believe.

The DA fighter is cheaper than the forge world one. They look similar but the price is the main one.

 SisterSydney wrote:
I It's a lousy country to be poor, and a terrible country to be poor and sick.

It's a middling country to be poor and sick in, no one dies from lack of urgent care. People going to the hospital and not paying the bill was the real reason for Obamacare and the medicare expansion, because it was hitting middle class and wealthy people in the pockets as the hospitals tried to recoup their loss from the people who showed up broke and then skipped town on the bill and laughed at the debt collectors. The whole thing was the Heritage Foundation's idea to begin with. And if you think the U.S. is poor, then you haven't seen how people's suffering is greeted with utter indifference by most of the world, which in general does not value human life like the western nations do. Now back to your regularly scheduled wargaming chat.

My Avenger is now assembled! got to get to painting this weekend! All I need now to complete my sororitas collection are Repentia, Arcos and a Repressor.

 Celtic Strike wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!

Yeah, same here

I'd actually recommend Valkyrie instead:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/464528.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-6029-33809_Avenger%20Conversion.html

Personally find them closer to the original =P

Although I own an actual avenger and i'd say none really compare, but heyho, it IS expensive... Valkyrie is closest IMO...



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 BlackTalos wrote:

Also relevant to "Plastic sisters" & Alternatives, have people seen These

Only 1 forum thread about IT, and quite recent too...

If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

Oh and this, anyone?

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Celtic Strike wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!

Yeah, same here

I'd actually recommend Valkyrie instead:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/464528.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-6029-33809_Avenger%20Conversion.html

Personally find them closer to the original =P

Although I own an actual avenger and i'd say none really compare, but heyho, it IS expensive... Valkyrie is closest IMO...

Except it isn't.
Being he basically carved it up, then built at least half of it out of plasticard to get that shape.
It's more of a scratchuild than a kitbash.

The strike fighter, while not looking as good as a build like that, is FAR easier to get it reasoonably close.

It also comes with pretty spot on weaponry, covering the complete basic loadout and one of the options:
Avenger Strike Fighter Options are:
Comes with:
Avenger Bolt Cannon, Two Lascannons, Heavy Stubber,
May add one of:
2 different pairs of Missiles, Two Autocannon, Two Multi-Lasers, 6 Bombs, 2 Missile Launchers

Avenger Strike Fighter:
Nephilim Kit has:
Two Heavy Bolters, Two Lascannons, 6 Missiles, Avenger Mega Bolter, Two Hurricane Bolters, Cannon

So you're only really shy the Heavy Stubber, 2 pairs of missiles, bombs, autocannon and multilasers.

As opposed to the Vendetta Kit having:
2 Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter, 2 Missile Pods, 2 Missiles

So you'd need the Mega Bolter / Bolt Cannon, Heavy Stubber, 1x2 Missile Variant, Two Autocannons, Two Multi-Lasers, 6 Bombs to cover all the options.
And a TON more work to get it to the size / profile of the Avenger.

dadakkaest wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
I It's a lousy country to be poor, and a terrible country to be poor and sick.

It's a middling country to be poor and sick in, no one dies from lack of urgent care

Point taken. Poor & sick in Burundi is much worse than poor & sick in the US.

Or in the Imperium, for that matter. Yay making my save against Off Topic!

Also Valkyrie is awesome.

Also I want Vultures as a fast attack option for Sororitas. Most of the Imperial Navy air support in Aeronautica is reserved for the Imperial Guard -- why? Okay, maybe the Navy doesn't like us, but the Ecclesiarchy has its own battle fleet for crying out loud.

Also also, I'm eager for comment on my lasted homebrew thread: Canoness Awesomeness, Palatine Standard-Bearers, Alternative Acts of Faith, Choristers, & Relics. I've written up lots of new wargear for the Canoness, including special relics for each of the six Major Orders Militant, plus wargear granting squads alternative AOF, 6th ed. Palatines, and an alternative to priests, Sisters Chorister who sign War Hymns.
I'm not just not pimpin' my gak here, I really want people to tell me where I've fethed up & what I should rewrite.

What I find funny, is in that thread people are saying it would be nice if the had access to the Aquilla Lander and Arvus Lighter.

But they do, both are listed as available to Sisters.
'course the Aquilla model isn't really available anymore.

Thanks everyone for the feedback (and for the thread - I've read all of it LOL). More fluffy questions...

- For a foot slogging horde, would it make sense use a cannoness w/ command squad, outfit her w/ mantel, one celestian w/ banner? Keeping the "guard" standard sisters squad (w/ priest augments) close for the 12" bubble of +1 attacks and re-rolls? Or simply ditch the idea of the points sink that is cannoness upgrading and just go strait celestia/jacobus (I only own celestia).

Currently I lack any real mech, but have lots of girls. That will likely change soon, but I've got to work with what I've got I fully expect to lose a ton over the next month or so...but it's a learning curve. I've always found that losing with something inherently underpowered is fine, but winning with it is far more rewarding.

Jacobus or Celestine is just flat out better for foot than a canoness.

BlackTalos wrote:

Also relevant to "Plastic sisters" & Alternatives, have people seen These

Only 1 forum thread about IT, and quite recent too...

If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

Holy crud. Anyone get one?

 pretre wrote:
Jacobus or Celestine is just flat out better for foot than a canoness.

I just noticed that priests also get access to relics (doh! totally missed that...mmmmm...litanies) so if I wanted to roll the banner for the +1, I could still get it w/o the full command squad sink.

Jacobus on paper looks awesome though, just wish I had a model to use him with.

The banner is not available to priests, iirc.

Also, just find any model with a banner and give him/her a shotgun!

Conversions are fun.

 pretre wrote:
The banner is not available to priests, iirc.

Also, just find any model with a banner and give him/her a shotgun!

Conversions are fun.

I love conversions That's half the reason I even mess w/ miniatures - to make something unique out of them. I'm unsure how Now, on who can take the banner... I think you are correct. This stupid layout of this ebook is driving me nuts. The list where all relics are described is in one spot, the points list is in another and does have specific caveats on who can take what (cannoness/priest). However, I noticed that the banner is *missing* from this section of the points. It only shows up under the celestian option in a command squad.... so yeah, I guess it is only available for that one unit. Which sucks... really sucks :(

ncshooter426 wrote:I just noticed that priests also get access to relics (doh! totally missed that...mmmmm...litanies) so if I wanted to roll the banner for the +1, I could still get it w/o the full command squad sink.

pretre wrote:The banner is not available to priests, iirc.

Yeah. just checked the codex on my iPhone: The Blessed Standard and Sacred Banner are only available to the Sororitas Command Squad (or, coughcough, to [shameless self-promotion]my homebrewed Palatine[/shameless self-promotion], while Jacobus's Banner of Sanctity is uniquely his.

 pretre wrote:
Jacobus or Celestine is just flat out better for foot than a canoness.

BlackTalos wrote:

Also relevant to "Plastic sisters" & Alternatives, have people seen These

Only 1 forum thread about IT, and quite recent too...

If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

Holy crud. Anyone get one?

Too much for me personally, but i'll be slightly patient and maybe find the actual guy's website one day, if it goes more mainstream...

Or if anyone's heard of it? =P


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 Ovion wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Celtic Strike wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 OutlawBandit wrote:
So would you guys recommend purchasing/converting an Avenger Strike Fighter?

Convert from Dark Angels flyer. I did it!

Yeah, same here

I'd actually recommend Valkyrie instead:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/464528.page
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-6029-33809_Avenger%20Conversion.html

Personally find them closer to the original =P

Although I own an actual avenger and i'd say none really compare, but heyho, it IS expensive... Valkyrie is closest IMO...

Except it isn't.
Being he basically carved it up, then built at least half of it out of plasticard to get that shape.
It's more of a scratchuild than a kitbash.

The strike fighter, while not looking as good as a build like that, is FAR easier to get it reasoonably close.

It also comes with pretty spot on weaponry, covering the complete basic loadout and one of the options:
Avenger Strike Fighter Options are:
Comes with:
Avenger Bolt Cannon, Two Lascannons, Heavy Stubber,
May add one of:
2 different pairs of Missiles, Two Autocannon, Two Multi-Lasers, 6 Bombs, 2 Missile Launchers

Avenger Strike Fighter:
Nephilim Kit has:
Two Heavy Bolters, Two Lascannons, 6 Missiles, Avenger Mega Bolter, Two Hurricane Bolters, Cannon

So you're only really shy the Heavy Stubber, 2 pairs of missiles, bombs, autocannon and multilasers.

As opposed to the Vendetta Kit having:
2 Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter, 2 Missile Pods, 2 Missiles

So you'd need the Mega Bolter / Bolt Cannon, Heavy Stubber, 1x2 Missile Variant, Two Autocannons, Two Multi-Lasers, 6 Bombs to cover all the options.
And a TON more work to get it to the size / profile of the Avenger.

It's all about the engines though =P
And the overall plane shape is closer on the Valkyrie, but yeah, you have to source the weapons... although in terms of load-out, the avenger is quite nice as it is... maybe the missile pods, but 4 Weapons per turn only and you've got 3...

 BlackTalos wrote:
If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

I just bought one of each. When they arrive I will give some details on it (and perhaps take some pictures).

Hardest thing so far about sisters? Figuring out a paint scheme The models are so "busy" with fine detail, I'm afraid of them looking muddled if I get the color combos wrong.

Spinning up a few this weekend in different layouts, with one being victorious...the others sentenced to repentance in the chemical baths.

I like the stock paint schemes for the orders. I went Bloody Rose and it looks great.

I went for Order of Our Martyred Lady.
But Caliban green instead of red :p


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 Necrosis wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:
If anyone can share more info about them i'm interested... They look really good, even if the price is a bit high...
Looking for the guy's site/ store/ whatevs =D

I just bought one of each. When they arrive I will give some details on it (and perhaps take some pictures).

Nice! If there is any form of sig on the base that would be amazing!
Enjoy painting/playing them, they look superb for both...

I'm one of those "weird" sister players who painted his models blue, I guess I'm just partial blue, I like the order schemes but I didn't like the mostly red and the white order, I really like the standard sisters look with the red black and gold but I felt like I couldn't paint the scheme and went with a mostly blue and gold scheme.

Mine are/will be white and coal.

Red and Black all the way..

helps with the blood and ashes.

I went with black and white, classic nun style. My order is Order of the Penitent Lady and originally I wanted to go heavy on Penitent Engines and Repentia, but after trying them out and having them suck, I just went with a more traditional list.
Here's how they look. (I'll be basing them soon.)

I just fiddled around in the Soulstorm painter until I found a colourscheme that looked good and adapted it for the models. Settled on grey armour and red robes, eventually. Wanted to make my own Order.

Though I will be painting Argent Shroud after my current army is done. They also may or may not all get shades.

And those eBay Sisters are shockingly good, certainly the best non-GW Sisters I've ever seen. The person who made them really captured the army's aesthetic.

Whirlwind Exorcists! :p
What is Celestine's left hand?
I'll post my gallery when I get pictures 1 day...

My girls are all gold with blue robes.

I also use Whirlwind exo's with Forgeworld front plates and doors. I know I will have to give penitence for this but I hate the GW exo with a passion!

 BlackTalos wrote:
Whirlwind Exorcists! :p
What is Celestine's left hand?
I'll post my gallery when I get pictures 1 day...

I'm actually not a fan of the big organ exorcist.
Celestian has another sword. (no increase in stats, but I thought it would look cool.)
And for the record, I do still pimp my exorcists out SOB style.