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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Its not the sexy look that makes them so good, its the perversion of that allure which perfectly nails the 'I'm not sure if this is attracting or repulsive' idea that Slaanesh is perfect for.

Whereas the current ones are just repulsive (the steeds are ok).

The plastics are more generic 'scary demon' types, which is fine and honestly makes for a perfectly good plastic kit. The key to note is that people who see the plastic daemonettes without having seen the Diaz ones generally think they look fine. The reality is that its only when one compares them do the plastics look so bad, and its not so much a case of the latter being low quality as the Diaz ones being just so dam good. At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

Dear valued customer:

Your order of Classic Made to Order Daemonettes has been cast and shipped.

Please note, due to an unfortunate error the incorrect picture was posted when you placed your order, a correct image is included below.



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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

Dear valued customer:

Your order of Classic Made to Order Daemonettes has been cast and shipped.

Please note, due to an unfortunate error the incorrect picture was posted when you placed your order, a correct image is included below.



Refunds will not be offered.

Sincerely
GW

What's all the fuss?

A Daemonette is a Daemonette, right?

Mchaagen wrote:

Mental Surge wrote:

Hopefully this does send a message that the sexy look for slannesh is what most people want. I don't even play daemons and I bought the daemonettes and seekers cause I lvoe the models.

This wasn't the issue. The problem is the current models are utter waste--terrible sculpts based on John Blanche artwork. I'll grant some people actually like his artwork and I'm fine with that, but to use it for model design was not a sound strategy.

I never bought the current squid-head bloodletters for the same reason.

That was the issue for me, besides the fact that they were hideous.

Oooh, that would've been one epic april's fools prank

I wouldn't have minded if I got 1994 Daemonettes instead. Daemon range was at its best during early nineties (same can be said about any other army really).

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Dear valued customer:

Your order of Classic Made to Order Daemonettes has been cast and shipped.

Please note, due to an unfortunate error the incorrect picture was posted when you placed your order, a correct image is included below.

Spoiler:

Refunds will not be offered.

Sincerely
GW

I used a credit card, and I would begin chargeback proceedings immediately.

I wouldn't pay full price, but I actually like all the 2nd edition demons.

Having been spoilt by the 3E Diazettes and Horrors, I just can't go backward.

I don't overly mind the actual daemonettes, but I find Diaz's ones much more appealing for looks and, weirdly enough, positioning. They look more like dancers than the new ones. Besides, yes, the new ones are based on the Blanche's stuff which, I, personally, hate. Not going to use them as 'nettes, tho, will try and make them into Sisters of Slaughter or Witch Elves for my Daughters of Khaine army.

 Adam Spielmann wrote:
I don't overly mind the actual daemonettes, but I find Diaz's ones much more appealing for looks and, weirdly enough, positioning. They look more like dancers than the new ones. Besides, yes, the new ones are based on the Blanche's stuff which, I, personally, hate. Not going to use them as 'nettes, tho, will try and make them into Sisters of Slaughter or Witch Elves for my Daughters of Khaine army.

Exactly. The Diaz ones are dynamic. They look swift and deadly, the sense of motion on the seekers in particular is palpable. They look like they're dancing their way through battle, and they are both alluring and frightening. All these things make them perfectly, well, Slaanesh-ey. And all these things got lost somewhere in their translation to plastic.

 Adam Spielmann wrote:
I don't overly mind the actual daemonettes, but I find Diaz's ones much more appealing for looks and, weirdly enough, positioning. They look more like dancers than the new ones. Besides, yes, the new ones are based on the Blanche's stuff which, I, personally, hate. Not going to use them as 'nettes, tho, will try and make them into Sisters of Slaughter or Witch Elves for my Daughters of Khaine army.

I doubt they're blanchesque - the new ones are based on several artworks and miniatures from the 80's. I like the concept, the Diaz ones are more like Giger-Alien-girls. Their poses are better though, the new ones are rather static.

That said I ordered some for conversions - possessed humans, daemonhosts or mutants for example. To each their own.

These have all now gone to "No longer available" on the UK site,

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The plastics are more generic 'scary demon' types, which is fine and honestly makes for a perfectly good plastic kit. The key to note is that people who see the plastic daemonettes without having seen the Diaz ones generally think they look fine. The reality is that its only when one compares them do the plastics look so bad, and its not so much a case of the latter being low quality as the Diaz ones being just so dam good. At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

I think you hit the problem. There is nothing wrong with the current plastic nettes. They just are a step back from the diaz nettes. Only the plastic seeker have a big problem in my opinion, namely they lack the look as if there going fast

Closed on the US site, too.

I wonder when they'll start shipping.

 Slinky wrote:
These have all now gone to "No longer available" on the UK site,

This was true as of Monday 28th. I know because I got paid on that day, and on Sunday evening they were still for sale, then after work on Monday when I was going to get another box each of the 'Netts and Seekers, they'd been taken down.

A little frustrating, to say the least...

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The plastics are more generic 'scary demon' types, which is fine and honestly makes for a perfectly good plastic kit. The key to note is that people who see the plastic daemonettes without having seen the Diaz ones generally think they look fine. The reality is that its only when one compares them do the plastics look so bad, and its not so much a case of the latter being low quality as the Diaz ones being just so dam good. At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

I own all the daemonette variants, but still prefer the current plastics. They take design elements from all the past versions and do a good job of keeping it coherent. The anatomy sculpting is also excellent for their scale. The claws and feet for instance have far superior details. They are the closet to the original Slave to Darkness source material in appearance. It's just a shame that the aren't in running poses though. The Daiznettes don't really fit with what their supposed to represent but they are lovely sculpts all the same.

The Diazettes are lovely, and they are Daemons, so they can be anything they want.

I'd love to see a plastic kit that combines the best elements of both. I vastly prefer the current plastic steeds of slaanesh to the Diaz ones though. While Diaz definitely got the posing on the steeds better (and WAY batter for the riders) they seem too bland and lacking detail (not to mention a bit small) to me. The current steeds have lots of good detail and variation between models while still all fitting within a distinct aesthetic, and only lack the same sense of speed. While the saddle look doesn't fit daemonettes as well as Diaz's posing I will say that it is great for converting since it means seeker riders and hellstrider riders are fully compatable (since both kits have the same steeds), and even the steeds from chariot kits can have riders swapped freely.

As a sidenote, the Mordheim video game does an excellent job in making the current daemonette variety 'feel' slaanesh via their animations and posing.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The plastics are more generic 'scary demon' types, which is fine and honestly makes for a perfectly good plastic kit. The key to note is that people who see the plastic daemonettes without having seen the Diaz ones generally think they look fine. The reality is that its only when one compares them do the plastics look so bad, and its not so much a case of the latter being low quality as the Diaz ones being just so dam good. At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

It's wierd, I never see any one group claim to speak for everyone as often as I do Diaznette fans. For the record there are plenty of folk out there who've seen all the various types of Daemonettes and still prefer the design of the plastic ones, I've spoken to several and I'm one myself. If you like them, great, but I wish folk would stop pretending their personal aesthetic preference is somehow objectively correct and universal.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Diazettes are lovely, and they are Daemons, so they can be anything they want.

True they are daemons; and the hanging accessory breasts do fit one of Slaanesh's themes. But...they aren't androgynous or "obviously" hermaphroditic like in the background.

Yeah,
I like the plastics, just wished they had two boobs.


Panic...

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
I like the plastics, just wished they had two boobs.


Panic...

Whereas Diaz's have up to six!

What I like about the Diaz Nettes is that they represented the "alluring" look of the fluff. Mortals would be entranced by them until they got too close, then the Nettes would get all ugly and vicious, and it would be too late for the poor mortal to raise their guard again
The new plastics have none of that. They are ugly and vicious 24/7 (still look cool, though)

Ideally, the plastic kit should have had a mix of both in the same aesthetic. A few sensuous poses (which you could argue there are) and heads with beautiful faces, along with some aggressive poses and monstrous faces.
I personally cut the tails off of all of mine and green-stuffed the other breast and that was all I needed to "recapture" the alluring look that the Diaznettes had and the new plastics lost.

I wish I had the money this time around to get a box of Seekers though. I don't like how big the plastics are. Seriously, they make better Fiends than Seekers. The Diaz Seekers look awesome and represent T3, 1W models much better.

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 Yodhrin wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The plastics are more generic 'scary demon' types, which is fine and honestly makes for a perfectly good plastic kit. The key to note is that people who see the plastic daemonettes without having seen the Diaz ones generally think they look fine. The reality is that its only when one compares them do the plastics look so bad, and its not so much a case of the latter being low quality as the Diaz ones being just so dam good. At any rate, I think we can all be glad that they at least aren't the ones that came before Diaz...

It's wierd, I never see any one group claim to speak for everyone as often as I do Diaznette fans. For the record there are plenty of folk out there who've seen all the various types of Daemonettes and still prefer the design of the plastic ones, I've spoken to several and I'm one myself. If you like them, great, but I wish folk would stop pretending their personal aesthetic preference is somehow objectively correct and universal.

...

...agreed!

That would be great - but, this is the Internet, so the best we can hope for here is that people will at least remain polite while doing it!

So, according to https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/06/adepta-sororitas-canoness-veridyan/ , the new made to order is: Inquisition, Ecclesiarchy and Adepta Sororitas range, including some classics not available for years.
What do you guys think about that?

I'm thinking I have just about all of the Inquisition / Ecclesiarchy models that I might want. But who knows, maybe something might catch my eye...

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
I'm thinking I have just about all of the Inquisition / Ecclesiarchy models that I might want. But who knows, maybe something might catch my eye...

Certainly, if it's thrown hard enough.


Weren't most of the Inquisition models released in finecast or resin? What is left to bring back in metal, the second half of the range that consisted of the minis in the first half with weapon swaps ad slight alterations?

DanceOfSlaanesh wrote:
So, according to https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/06/adepta-sororitas-canoness-veridyan/ , the new made to order is: Inquisition, Ecclesiarchy and Adepta Sororitas range, including some classics not available for years.
What do you guys think about that?

OUCH MY WALLET!

Especially since I spent a few $100 on ebay over the last few years.

But yes, I may well spend it again.