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Does Ahriman have command of the Thousand Sons now

or is Magnus still in charge?

LightKing wrote:
Does Ahriman have command of the Thousand Sons now

or is Magnus still in charge?

Magnus is the Primarch so... Ahriman does as he's told for now lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Does Ahriman have command of the Thousand Sons now

or is Magnus still in charge?

Magnus is the Primarch so... Ahriman does as he's told for now lol.

so Magnus is still more powerful than Ahriman?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Now all we need are rules leaks...

Nah, as long as we don't know, we can still lie to ourselves they'll be good.

This just in. They'll all have 2 wounds and a lot going for them.

 TheLumberJack wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
Any codex to hold the rules for the new releases?

I also would like to know. I'm hoping for a tzeentch daemonkin book

Uh, they spoiled this too. I'm sure it will contain all these new rules.

All this new Thousand Sons stuff is awesome!! Hopefully they sell well

So I have a question about the fluff related to war zone fenris book that is rumored to come out. Not sure if it's been discussed yet.There was a 40k novel I believe that it was 'Battle for the fang' where Magnus attacks the fang on fenris. now after reading this book it sounds a lot like the same story as war zone fenris but there are a lot of differences, if I rember correctly there were no Wulfen and Ahriman was not part of the attack on fenris and Magnus gets his ass kicked by Bjorn(dreadnaught version)So is this supposed to be the same story or Is Magnus attacking the fang for a second time ? Just a little confused about the plot progression ha

 Bonkz wrote:
So I have a question about the fluff related to war zone fenris book that is rumored to come out. Not sure if it's been discussed yet.There was a 40k novel I believe that it was 'Battle for the fang' where Magnus attacks the fang on fenris. now after reading this book it sounds a lot like the same story as war zone fenris but there are a lot of differences, if I rember correctly there were no Wulfen and Ahriman was not part of the attack on fenris and Magnus gets his ass kicked by Bjorn(dreadnaught version)So is this supposed to be the same story or Is Magnus attacking the fang for a second time ? Just a little confused about the plot progression ha

Battle of the Fang happened in m32. So quite a gap between the two

 Don Savik wrote:

 TheLumberJack wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
Any codex to hold the rules for the new releases?

I also would like to know. I'm hoping for a tzeentch daemonkin book

Uh, they spoiled this too. I'm sure it will contain all these new rules.

So just a supplement then...well that kinda sucks

 Bonkz wrote:
So I have a question about the fluff related to war zone fenris book that is rumored to come out. Not sure if it's been discussed yet.There was a 40k novel I believe that it was 'Battle for the fang' where Magnus attacks the fang on fenris. now after reading this book it sounds a lot like the same story as war zone fenris but there are a lot of differences, if I rember correctly there were no Wulfen and Ahriman was not part of the attack on fenris and Magnus gets his ass kicked by Bjorn(dreadnaught version)So is this supposed to be the same story or Is Magnus attacking the fang for a second time ? Just a little confused about the plot progression ha

Battle of the Fang took place in M32, right after the Horus Heresy

this is advancing the fluff further in 40k 9.99

 Bonkz wrote:
So I have a question about the fluff related to war zone fenris book that is rumored to come out. Not sure if it's been discussed yet.There was a 40k novel I believe that it was 'Battle for the fang' where Magnus attacks the fang on fenris. now after reading this book it sounds a lot like the same story as war zone fenris but there are a lot of differences, if I rember correctly there were no Wulfen and Ahriman was not part of the attack on fenris and Magnus gets his ass kicked by Bjorn(dreadnaught version)So is this supposed to be the same story or Is Magnus attacking the fang for a second time ? Just a little confused about the plot progression ha

Its been a while since I read Battle of the Fang, but here goes:



As opposed to this invasion, which seems to be solely about the destruction of the Space Wolves.

 Crimson wrote:


(EDIT: Actually I am pretty certain this rumour is true, I just recently scratchbuilt three inquisitors. It is a surefire way to guarantee that a new codex will be released and the equipment choices of the converted models are rendered obsolete.)

Ha, yes, I'm in the same boat - I've just started working on my Sisters/Inquisition/general Imperial Agents army after a long break from them. In a way, a single supplement would be really great for the project, but I just think some of the details in the quoted text sound a little off.

If there are nine factions as advertised, what do we think they'll be?

- Inquisition
- Adepta Sororitas
- Officio Assassinorium
- Deathwatch (probably just a standard Kill Team squad)
- Grey Knights (just terminators?)
- Adeptus Astra Telepathica
- Adeptus Custodes
- Sisters of Silence?

That leaves one slot free. New plastic SoB I can believe, but would they release something else? Arbites, for example? Seems unlikely. The other possibility is Militarum Tempestus, I suppose.

Hopefully the 3 exalted sorcerers box is the way to go for characters now, and they stop with these silly clampack overpriced/monopose crap.

Guess that these guys will be HQ since if that's not the case, there's no way to play 1k sons without a special character leading them, which would suck

 TheLumberJack wrote:

 Don Savik wrote:

 TheLumberJack wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
Any codex to hold the rules for the new releases?

I also would like to know. I'm hoping for a tzeentch daemonkin book

Uh, they spoiled this too. I'm sure it will contain all these new rules.

So just a supplement then...well that kinda sucks

Does it really matter?, given that Scarab Terminators, Tzaangors and the options we've seen the new Rubrics with aren't in the Chaos Codex anyway, I would be surprised if you'd actually need the CSM codex to run a Thousand Sons army, so I don't see what the problem is.

Another supplement will also follow; Traitor legions.



We finally get it!

Nonsense. You've been able to turn off your ringtone for a long time.

 Elbows wrote:
Nonsense. You've been able to turn off your ringtone for a long time.

Why has no-one told me this?

I'll believe the traitor legions thing when I see it. Especially with the TSons paint and the TSOn on the cover. Plus that would mean it's a Codex Space Marine supplement given the previous rumour excerpt...nah

 Nordicus wrote:
Another supplement will also follow; Traitor legions.



We finally get it!

Laugh with me Rubrics


S.Y.

LightKing wrote:

Kijamon wrote:
Still don't see why people are expecting Fenris to fall. Space Wolves are a big seller, Battle of the Fang spells out that the Wolves can only recruit from Fenris.

Would they dare to kill or forever damage/doom an original legion and money maker? Nope!

It'll be a draw and/or the book finishes before the battle ends.

I don't see Fenris falling, but i think it will spark the return of one of the loyalist primarchs to combat Magnus and his forces

either the Wolf or the Lion

Or DA and the Lion rescue the wolves who then have to live in fleet ships while 1k occupies a decimated Fenris.

Leaves it open for Russ to return and help take it back, what's left of it.

Go Primarchs!!

 Elbows wrote:
Nonsense. You've been able to turn off your ringtone for a long time.

This is a pretty great post.

 TheLumberJack wrote:

 Don Savik wrote:

 TheLumberJack wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
Any codex to hold the rules for the new releases?

I also would like to know. I'm hoping for a tzeentch daemonkin book

Uh, they spoiled this too. I'm sure it will contain all these new rules.

So just a supplement then...well that kinda sucks

One of the main reasons Daemons are competitive now is because of Warzone Fenris Part 1, so don't right it off just because it isn't a codex.

Chikout wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
Is it just me, or do the new kits look rather teal? I'm used to seeing them in a darker shade of blue than that. I would love to see someone paint these up in the pre-heresy red.

Like this?

Thank you, sir. They look pretty awesome in Pre Heresy red.

Ok so the book situation is damping my enthusiasm a bit now that I've recovered from the initial amazement at the gorgeous models. With no stand alone codex(yet) will the majority of the 1k sons rules be in Fenris part two or Traitor legions?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So is Ahriman now the first named character who has 2 different plastic models?

I can't think of any others at the moment. Though it technically doesn't count, since 30K and 40K are two different things.

Cassius.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Ok so the book situation is damping my enthusiasm a bit now that I've recovered from the initial amazement at the gorgeous models. With no stand alone codex(yet) will the majority of the 1k sons rules be in Fenris part two or Traitor legions?

I imagine the rules will be in both books


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 EnTyme wrote:

 TheLumberJack wrote:

 Don Savik wrote:

 TheLumberJack wrote:

Celestialpainting wrote:
Any codex to hold the rules for the new releases?

I also would like to know. I'm hoping for a tzeentch daemonkin book

Uh, they spoiled this too. I'm sure it will contain all these new rules.

So just a supplement then...well that kinda sucks

One of the main reasons Daemons are competitive now is because of Warzone Fenris Part 1, so don't right it off just because it isn't a codex.

I'm not righting it off, it's just that to play chaos you need a lot of books already and this just adds another that isn't a full codex

Also of interest. The terminators are labelled as Scarab Occult, not as Rubric Terminators. Scarab Occult in 30k, by the fluff, at least, all seem to have been accomplished sorcerers, none below the level of Philosophus, per A Thousand Sons. The fluff book that accompanied the BoP box game describes a regular squaddie of the Scarab Occult as having come from the Pyrae, throwing pyromancy around in battle. Specifically, also, it describes the weapons of the Scarab Occult being psychic in nature.

Brotherhood of Psykers? Something different, and more individualized? Something ported over from whatever the rules in Inferno are going to be?

Very excited to find out rules. Hope they don't just make Scarab Occult into Rubricae with heavier armor.

 TheLumberJack wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Ok so the book situation is damping my enthusiasm a bit now that I've recovered from the initial amazement at the gorgeous models. With no stand alone codex(yet) will the majority of the 1k sons rules be in Fenris part two or Traitor legions?

I imagine the rules will be in both books

That would for me be the ideal situation as I would only need to get the latest CSM dex and whichever of the two other books I prefer. I just have this fear of the unit entries being in Fenris2 and the rest of the legion rules in the Traitor legions book.

pm713 wrote:

Kijamon wrote:
Still don't see why people are expecting Fenris to fall. Space Wolves are a big seller, Battle of the Fang spells out that the Wolves can only recruit from Fenris.

Why do people keep saying this? It makes no sense. There were Space Wolves before Fenris was found.

My personal theory is that the Wolves ties to Fenris date back to before there founding. During the dark age of technology the human colonists on Fenris used genetic engineering to better survive there world. Later during the Primarch/Space marine project the Emperor decided to use the Fenris data for one of his gene sons and there legion. When the Primachs were scattered into the warp Russ was drawn to the world due to his shared genetic heretige with its human population. Back on Earth the Imperium still had access to the Fenris genetic data and used that to help stabilise the early Wolves. But during or shortly after the Heresy that data was lost leaving the Fenris humans as the only ones compatible with Space wolf geneseed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

As far as the Imperial Agents go... hey Kyoto, 'member this:

In that there was an Imperial Agents army list. It had Assassins, Grey Knights, Sisters, Ad Mech, Adeptus Astra Telepathica and so on. Looks like it's back.

First appearance of the Electro priests in that book IIRC. Its only taken how many years to get models?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But guys! The Traitor Legions are all broken up. They shouldn't get special rules. Meanwhile Loyalist Chapter #11s-D just got their own Chapter Tactics! Wooo!



Nah! Screw that. Legion Rules! YAY!

As far as the Imperial Agents go... hey Kyoto, 'member this:



In that there was an Imperial Agents army list. It had Assassins, Grey Knights, Sisters, Ad Mech, Adeptus Astra Telepathica and so on. Looks like it's back.

That castle looks like an angry sponge bob heheh

Does anyone feel that it seems too soon that Magnus is forgiving Ahriman

wish there was more build up to Magnus evnetually forgiving him