Better/fuller version of the new WD format confirms this.
New Longbeards and a character on an oath stone are coming ..... unless the mention of Longbeards is a general reference to the race as a whole ? Seems unlikely though.
various rumours to do with other kits TBC.
25.1.14 2 new pics added.
originally from Bugman's Brewery site .
from the same source
There's also a new named character releasing with them that looks awesome as hell too. he had magic items (not runic) in the form of a weapon that gave him +1 to hit and asf and a shield that gave him immunity to killing blow
27.1.14 from the GW site
Long have they fought the terrors in the dark beneath the mountains. And long have they died defending what is rightfully theirs. No more. Now is the time for vengeance, for conquest, for power. Ancient grudges will be settled on 1st February, make sure you’re here to find out more.
Ok went to my FLGS and they were selling the weekly white dwarf issue 1.
Belegar Ironhammer Rocks ,though it does not mention his armor so assume it's gromril
He can double his attacks once per game, has a 4+ ward save, immune to any sort of killing blow and has +1 to wound with ASF
They only discuss the Hammer/Longbeard kit and the two hero clam packs. Nothing else is discussed in the articles. I will have to go over it again to see if there is anything I missed.
Also a beard painting tutorial which is nice.
Picked up from the WD thread
Samurai_Eduh wrote: Anyone notice the sneak peek of dwarf army rules? +1 strength on the charge, no leadership test for marching and a grudge table that gives varying levels of hatred.
So, I don't know if this has been discussed already, but a LGS near me was accidentally selling next week's White Dwarf early. The Dwarfs have a Gyrobomber coming, this kit also makes a new Gyrocopter. They are also getting a new Runelord, and Engineer Character, and the next White Dwarf has a picture of the new Dwarf Army Book. Also, if you look closely, you can see new Dwarf Ironbreakers. This new Ironbreakers kit also looks like it builds some kind of blunderbuss wielding shooting unit. This blunderbuss carrying unit might also have the option to build some kind of flamethrower gun, I'm not sure.
In review:
New Gyrobomber/Gyrocopter kit.
Engineer Character.
New Runelord.
Grainy pictures in next White Dwarf of new Ironbreakers, and it seems this kit also builds new ranged unit with large gun or blunderbuss option and possible flamethrower option.
GrottoKnight on Warseer wrote:
-Yes Belegar has gromril. His Oathstone will be an extra points upgrade
-Thunderers/Quarrellers are CORE and RARE currently
-Gyrocopter is coming (see picture behind Slayer in video in "what's new"
-pg 27 of the WD says "Next week: Engineering Madness" in Designer Notes
-I would like to note that the Hammerers use GROMRIL hammers
ARMY RULES
It's basically 3 rules:
-Ancestral grudge, roll a D6 before the first turn. On 1-2 your general hates the enemy's general. On 3-4 your characters hate all enemy characters. On 5-6 your army hates the entire enemy army.
-Resolute, charging units have +1 strength
-Relentless, cannot be marchblocked.
(NOTICE: no -1 to flee and pursue rolls? I figured this would go with how movement and charging changed and all.)
That would make sense as I cannot find Longbeards on the US site currently. There's a Blood Bowl Longbeard, a ton of paint collections with Longbeard Grey in it, but no Longbeards from the Dwarf army.
The first White Dwarf weekly is about to be revealed. Inside are the Dwarven releases of Longbeards and Hammers, as well as a few characters and a special character with rules.
Please remember that until this is released, its considered to be rumors. The first edition is scheduled for February 1st.
via Father Gabe on Faeit 212
I had a chance to flip through the White Dwarf weekly earlier today. Here is what I can report on:
Dwarves:
Dual Longbeard / Hammers box $50. They look amazing
Belegar Ironhammer (Or Ironbeard, cant remember). $21. Awesome sculpt.
Trollslayer Character $21. Amazing...thought it was Gotrek.
Previews for upcoming novels: Scars (Which was an ebook series) and a few others.
Jervis Johnson article/rule set: Explains Scouting in 40k...reads well, a cool mini-game prior to scout moves.
A Tyranid article
A how to paint guide for the new dwarves (exactly like whats in White Dwarf now)
A how to build guide for the new dwarves (exactly like whats in White Dwarf now)
Rules: Belegar Ironhammer. These are full rules with point costs! I won't relay but this guy is cheap for what you get from him. 300+ points, lots of good attacking ability and awesome defense.
[Tinfoil hat]
I wonder why they would do that.
If they are doing the books after the first wave of models you really have to wonder what advantage they see to that other than getting people to buy the new models without seeing the rules for them.
[/tinfoil hat]
manrogue wrote: I thought the rumour was that the relevant army book/codex would be released in the second weeks white dwarf, due to the new weekly release schedule?
Nobody mentioned an armybook in first week so far.
manrogue wrote: I thought the rumour was that the relevant army book/codex would be released in the second weeks white dwarf, due to the new weekly release schedule?
Nobody mentioned an armybook in first week so far.
Thats what i meant, just phrased it really poorly as was answering post above!
manrogue wrote: I thought the rumour was that the relevant army book/codex would be released in the second weeks white dwarf, due to the new weekly release schedule?
Nobody mentioned an armybook in first week so far.
Yes this worries me especially with models that we don't know rules for yet. I just ordered 40 AoW pathfinders but I am hesitant to build them now due to the new release
From the sound of it, I think I just need to wait till the end of feb to order all this stuff. Unless GW wants to make me a nice deal for ordering early? Just saying.
Actually, weakly WD announces new products from the week to come, so WD1 announces longbeards and two characters from 8th February, with armybook maybe as late as 15th February (announced in WD2).
well, considering the army book will have pics of all the new models in it. I would assume they don't want to show anything off too early, and let you be in awe of the new models first. Still, the rulebook should come before any figures really, but, I guess this is how they want to do it now.
That makes sense in a perverse "don't give away any information" way.
But it makes no sense in an army building way. I'm quite interested in the Dwarf release, but I'm not buying anything until I've read the army book, so if it's not until week 3 (WD2 + 1 week) I'm not buying figures until at least week 4.
Yeah I agree, I haven't seen anything in terms of rules rumors for them so far. If they don't update their rules and give them some actually interesting options then really they shouldn't bother making a new book. So far Dwarfs have remained nearly unchanged since 6th ed Fantasy as far as I have seen.
More Dakka wrote: Yeah I agree, I haven't seen anything in terms of rules rumors for them so far. If they don't update their rules and give them some actually interesting options then really they shouldn't bother making a new book. So far Dwarfs have remained nearly unchanged since 6th ed Fantasy as far as I have seen.
Um, of course they haven't changed since 6th edition. The current army book is a 6th edition army book.
More Dakka wrote: Yeah I agree, I haven't seen anything in terms of rules rumors for them so far. If they don't update their rules and give them some actually interesting options then really they shouldn't bother making a new book. So far Dwarfs have remained nearly unchanged since 6th ed Fantasy as far as I have seen.
They quite literally have been unchanged since 6th edition Fantasy, since the current book was released before 7th edition dropped. Well, aside from the castration that happened with the 8th edition FAQs.
More Dakka wrote: Yeah I agree, I haven't seen anything in terms of rules rumors for them so far. If they don't update their rules and give them some actually interesting options then really they shouldn't bother making a new book. So far Dwarfs have remained nearly unchanged since 6th ed Fantasy as far as I have seen.
They quite literally have been unchanged since 6th edition Fantasy, since the current book was released before 7th edition dropped. Well, aside from the castration that happened with the 8th edition FAQs.
I'll admit to only skimming the 8th ed FAQ, but which bit castrated the Dwarf army?
Sorry, I'm totally off on my edition count. They were my first army in 96, which was the blue book with Thorgrim on the cover, I believe that was the 4th edition (Box set has terrible looking Orcs and High Elves in it), shortly followed by the edition with Bretonians and Lizardmen. The Bret book totally destroyed all of their playability, and I haven't really seen much difference between that old book and the "current" 6th one in that case.
Copying from my post in that other thread that popped up:
I'm looking at that slayer character and all I can think is that somewhere in Nottingham some upper middle management guy who knows nothing about model design is constantly telling the sculptors that they have to make it "more dynamic" because that is one of only two buzzwords he knows.
Seriously, the assassin from the DE release had the exact same problem.
jonolikespie wrote: Copying from my post in that other thread that popped up:
I'm looking at that slayer character and all I can think is that somewhere in Nottingham some upper middle management guy who knows nothing about model design is constantly telling the sculptors that they have to make it "more dynamic" because that is one of only two buzzwords he knows.
Seriously, the assassin from the DE release had the exact same problem.
I was thinking the same thing.
"It's nice, but can you make it lean over more? Only one axe?"
I actually quite like the Slayer model though it'd be even more awesome if they had Gotrek Gurnisson with his awesome axe of Grimnir. The Hammerers are a bit meh.
Quite like those Hammerers, the armour looks really nice. Can't really comment on the faces as it's difficult to get an exact look though with a photo taken by a camera phone, of a bent page (with the magazine spread over a loo-seat I'm guessing? ) Also, good to see a dwarf that isn't a beard with legs.
I'm honestly surprised the slayer didn't have a third axe clenched between his buttocks!
Or a little dwarf doll attached to this belt, who in turn is holding 2 axes
Wow! Can't say I'm at all impressed by these first two showings.
The slayer looks like a cabbage patch kid about to throw down a massive hug on someone!
And these hammers look fine, but they're bland. Where's that frumpiness, or hefting of oversized weaponry? Where's that horribly ticked off (grudged off) expression? These guys look like the couldn't care less about anything.
I really hope the rest of the line is able to pull off more of that 'citadel dwarf look', otherwise I'll just be content to not purchase any of these new models.
Joyboozer wrote: Honestly, this is why I went in on titans forge kickstarter, GW dwarves aesthetic looks terrible. Bring back the old marauder style dwarves!
Yes. Please.
GW once made the best dwarves around. But these won't be going home with me anytime soon.
That slayer looks like he's being pushed over and is falling backwards, the axes don't help the pose either. And come on, whose brilliant idea was it to end his beard with another to axes! What's he going to do, slap the troll to death with his beard?!?
blood lance wrote: I saw in the forum those pictures came from he said he'd seen the WD. Does anyone know if he's said what the other kits theyre remaking are?
I hope they reboot the standard dwarves, cannons and gunners/crossbows the last kits were pants.
I've been waiting for this book for years and have a huge pile off metal dwarves that needs some nice supporting units.
Anyway, good to see the dwarfs finally getting some attention. All they have to do is update Brets and Wood Elves, and GW will be all caught up. Then they have to update Skaven (still in 7th ed, iirc) and that should be everything.
Anyway, good to see the dwarfs finally getting some attention. All they have to do is update Brets and Wood Elves, and GW will be all caught up. Then they have to update Skaven (still in 7th ed, iirc) and that should be everything.
Beastmen. Everyone always forgets poor old Beastmen.
Anyway, good to see the dwarfs finally getting some attention. All they have to do is update Brets and Wood Elves, and GW will be all caught up. Then they have to update Skaven (still in 7th ed, iirc) and that should be everything.
Beastmen. Everyone always forgets poor old Beastmen.
Didn't the beastmen already receive an 8th ed update? That's why I didn't mention them.
Anyway, good to see the dwarfs finally getting some attention. All they have to do is update Brets and Wood Elves, and GW will be all caught up. Then they have to update Skaven (still in 7th ed, iirc) and that should be everything.
Beastmen. Everyone always forgets poor old Beastmen.
Didn't the beastmen already receive an 8th ed update? That's why I didn't mention them.
I think they got some new minis, but I think their books from 7th.
Flashman wrote: With a few amendments (proper base, no axe beard accessories), that Slayer is coming to Mordheim with me
Including the striped pyjamas? Never understood why Slayers wear those things. And as for the barefeet, you can imagine some night goblin scattering a few nails about the battlefield. No wonder the dwarf holds are getting captured
Automatically Appended Next Post: I do like the hammerers, though. People say they're meh, but they're supposed to be solid, no nonsense dwarves. They look as though they could stand up to a cavalry charge.
I like them both stick a guy infront of the slayer and all of a sudden he is flying of a statue to sink a axe in your head. I do not know much about dwarfs but they never change so.... a dwarf who looks emotionless and the same wither he is having sex or getting stabbed is the point... right?
Anyway, good to see the dwarfs finally getting some attention. All they have to do is update Brets and Wood Elves, and GW will be all caught up. Then they have to update Skaven (still in 7th ed, iirc) and that should be everything.
Beastmen. Everyone always forgets poor old Beastmen.
Didn't the beastmen already receive an 8th ed update? That's why I didn't mention them.
Bonde wrote: I didn't notice it the first time around, but first when someone pointed it out. The weapon-beards look utterly stupid.
It actually lines up with a bit from either "The Great Betrayal" or "Master of Dragons". There's mentions of Dwarfs in full Gromril Armor with huge hammers braiding their beards with weighted blades that they could use as weapons when in close where their hammers become awkward.
It's a cool little bit to see that "Great Betrayal" and "Master of Dragons" have dropped hints about the aesthetic before we saw the actual army redesign though. I could take or leave the weapon braids.
Quick question - what size bases are Dwarven infantry on?
And, is that the same base size for Empire infantry?
Thanks!
They are on the same sized base for Empire infantry. The only 'infantry' not on the 20mm bases are Ogres, Chaos Warriors, and Saurus.
It's a cool little bit to see that "Great Betrayal" and "Master of Dragons" have dropped hints about the aesthetic before we saw the actual army redesign though. I could take or leave the weapon braids.
Quick question - what size bases are Dwarven infantry on?
And, is that the same base size for Empire infantry?
Thanks!
They are on the same sized base for Empire infantry. The only 'infantry' not on the 20mm bases are Ogres, Chaos Warriors, and Saurus.
Weapons braided into beards is a Dwarf 'thing' now?
Well, at least we all know one person who is going to be really happy if the rest of the Dwarf line is as disappointing - Felix Paniagua.
They are otherwise rather good.
It's a shame and yet more of the push into cartoonish weirdness in GW's strive for an IP protect-able aesthetic. I personally think that's a big mistake as it allows other companies to produce equally good minis minus the weirdness and cash in even more.
The IP for fantasy should be nigh impossible to protect, because it's all extremely derivative of other works or indeed common imagery. If GW wants to take down the opposition it should be concentrating on producing desirable looking miniatures and destroying it's rivals on price, given it's manufacturing capacity and bulk buying ability.
I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
Because I can't imagine any world where having a weapon in your beard would end in anything else than that weapon hitting you in the face constantly And when it's not hitting you in the face, it's hitting you in the ribs/stomach.
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
Because I can't imagine any world where having a weapon in your beard would end in anything else than that weapon hitting you in the face constantly And when it's not hitting you in the face, it's hitting you in the ribs/stomach.
Or somewhere else depending on how long your beard is.
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
Because I can't imagine any world where having a weapon in your beard would end in anything else than that weapon hitting you in the face constantly And when it's not hitting you in the face, it's hitting you in the ribs/stomach.
Or somewhere else depending on how long your beard is.
I'm happy to see Dwarves finally getting some new kits- I have a large GW dwarf army and wouldn't mind painting a few more stunties.
The slayer is a bit silly, but then, he's a slayer so it comes with the territory. I am suspicious about these big bases though- I always think it's an excuse to jack up the price.
The hammerers are fairly competently done, though they are a little bland, and their faces are lacking some of the character of the old Dwarf sculpts- they really look computer sculpted to me, and they lack some of the expected character for that reason.
If these models are reasonably priced (hah!) I will buy them. I think that they don't hold a candle to Tre Manor's Dvergr though.
I think it's time to order some AoW slayers. They'll pull double duty in my Mantic Dwarf army. If the GW dwarf book is bad, I have KoW with tons of usable dwarves. If the GW books is good, I have two all payable system armies. Either way, I win.
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
Because I can't imagine any world where having a weapon in your beard would end in anything else than that weapon hitting you in the face constantly And when it's not hitting you in the face, it's hitting you in the ribs/stomach.
Not really a weapon is it, just an amulet or something like that. Would it be more preferable for most people if the beards were to be plain, maybe just braids or something to that regard?
GoDz KI11JOY x wrote: I am not sure why there is so much hate towards these items in the beards? Many other models in the range have stuff in their beard, maybe not quite weapon shaped but still.
Because I can't imagine any world where having a weapon in your beard would end in anything else than that weapon hitting you in the face constantly And when it's not hitting you in the face, it's hitting you in the ribs/stomach.
Not really a weapon is it, just an amulet or something like that. Would it be more preferable for most people if the beards were to be plain, maybe just braids or something to that regard?
Looks big enough to do some damage just swinging around
Doesn't really bother me, was just pointing it out that both the Hammerers and the Slayer had beard-dangling-weapons. Personally I'm not a fan of the WFB dwarfs, never really have been. I like Dwarfs, just not the WFB ones, much prefer the LOTR stunties or the AoW stunties.
I was dubious about the slayer before the beard axes were pointed out. Things in beards to weigh them down is a pretty good idea, axes just seem like a bad idea, especially if you're the sort of character that jumps of statues.
Can't say I'm a huge fan of the Hammerers because they don't look like they're physically capable of swinging their weapons. But as I said before, I'm not a huge fan of WFB dwarfs in the first place.
I didn't think it was possible for GW to convince me to pay their current insane prices, but these dwarfs may have proven me wrong. I must have that slayer. He will lead my AoW berserkers, my Mantic brock riders, and he will sit next to me when I re-read the Gotrek and Felix books.
The hammerers also look fantastic to me, but I've been gluing oversized hammers on my dwarfs for years. They are supposed to be much stronger than humans, after all. And runes something something.
I wonder if GW is continuing with the design of having these Dwarf units be two parts of the back and legs with the front part of the body and head with arms like the other plastics.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Including the striped pyjamas? Never understood why Slayers wear those things.
Because Asterix, I guess. But maybe that is just because I am French.
No need to apologise for being French, we all make mistakes
Anyway, back OT
The more I look at these hammerers, the more I like them, and here's why.
They're supposed to be tough, no nonsense troops, that guard the king, a rock for the rest of the Dwarf army to rely on. They're not meant to look flash, they're meant to stand up to a charge from Khorne knights of Chaos and still be able to fight back. These dwarves fit the bill.
Looks pretty good so far to me, though I do wonder what the rest of the Slayers' poses will look like. That one given seems to acrobatic for a Dwarf, even a maddened one.
Any news on whether these kits are going to be dual with anything?
I won't be picking anything up but I'm really interested to see what they do with the new Dwarves.
The Shadow wrote: Looks pretty good so far to me, though I do wonder what the rest of the Slayers' poses will look like. That one given seems to acrobatic for a Dwarf, even a maddened one.
I think the Slayer is a single plastic miniature clampack, not part of a box set.
Hazzah! Finally the time of the Dwarfs has come again!
I cannot wait to see the Army Book, as well as the potential army box sets which may be assembled, and of course, all of the new models especially new Lords and Heroes!
And that's a banner not a crest, unless Dwarves have no ability to keep their helmet ornaments straight.
Yeah, if you look closely, you'd find the helmet actually has horns, and the ornamental thing is behind it. Ergo, he has a banner, not an absurdly heavy helmet.
The long beards, which are the other half of that hammerer set, look much better IMO. Not sure why those pics haven't surfaced yet, but they look great.
Actually, yeah, that dwarf king is awesome!! I'd cut the banner off, but he is a wicked sculpt. Very impressed! Don't like the slayer and the hammerers are just okay, but Belegor is sweet!!
I'm pretty sure Dwarfs are going to turn into my second army. I currently play Ogres, but I hate the lack of options in the armybook. I hope that Dwarfs are pretty much the same, awesome Runes and anti-magic. I like the new models and I am so going to convert the new king's back banner into his hat.
Oh yeah, those medalions on his banner? Earings baby.
Long have they fought the terrors in the dark beneath the mountains. And long have they died defending what is rightfully theirs. No more. Now is the time for vengeance, for conquest, for power. Ancient grudges will be settled on 1st February, make sure you’re here to find out more.
I never knew there were so many milk bottles -- or tug boats -- in the undermountain.
That picture is a elf health and safety nightmare too. You'd think of all the folks in the warhammer world that they sons of Grungni would have unions.
Long have they fought the terrors in the dark beneath the mountains. And long have they died defending what is rightfully theirs. No more. Now is the time for vengeance, for conquest, for power. Ancient grudges will be settled on 1st February, make sure you’re here to find out more.
Well...that looked unusually evil looking for an order-aligned faction.
Kolbalt266 -question is it a BattleScroll or will Belegar Ironhammer have rules in the book? anyone?
Father Gabe -The rules for Belegar didn't have a stamp or heading saying battle scroll. With him having an actual model, showcased in the first new issue, it is reasonable to say he will be in the book.
The more I look at these models, the less I am wanting to buy them. I really wanted to start a Dwarf army, but now...I'm not so sure.
The Slayer looks the part. Seems to fit the fluff of a crazy, angry, little man. I will def be picking one of those up.
The rest just look off. Maybe it is the ultra colorful paint jobs? Someone mentioned that the banner on the Lord looks like it was a Lizardmen piece that they slapped a few runes on, I'm starting to agree. And don't get me started on all the swirls on the armor. Thank God for files and sandpaper.
As mentioned already, the Hammerers look like they were meant for LOTR and they just scaled them down a bit to make them work for WHFB.
Unless they re-do the Dwarf Warriors box (which so far sounds doubtful), these new units don't look like they would even match up with the old kits.
Come to think of it, it almost looks as if the the Hammerers were modeled after the Mantic Dwarfs. Maybe GW feels like Mantic is their main competition for fantasy? Who knows?
The fog horn or whatever at the end of the video, lol
So far, my reaction is very "meh" on these miniatures... seems like a lot of GW's recent plastic infantry have lacked character to me. Not sure if it's a restriction of the process, design decisions, or what... but nothing stands out about them / they're very bland.
reds8n wrote: I never knew there were so many milk bottles -- or tug boats -- in the undermountain.
That picture is a elf health and safety nightmare too. You'd think of all the folks in the warhammer world that they sons of Grungni would have unions.
Well done; you actually managed to get me to watch the video to see what the hell you're going on about.
Just flicking through my old Storm of Chaos for background and the Dwarves seem to be pretty consistant with those shown there complete with beard talismans and leaping Slayers
Mr Morden wrote: Just flicking through my old Storm of Chaos for background and the Dwarves seem to be pretty consistant with those shown there complete with beard talismans and leaping Slayers
Yes, Dwarfs have always had trinkets in their beards, I think the problem is actual axes and hammers are not trinkets. They're weapons; and having weapons in your beard is daft.
Mr Morden wrote: Just flicking through my old Storm of Chaos for background and the Dwarves seem to be pretty consistant with those shown there complete with beard talismans and leaping Slayers
Yes, Dwarfs have always had trinkets in their beards, I think the problem is actual axes and hammers are not trinkets. They're weapons; and having weapons in your beard is daft.
Aren't they just talismans of weapons? A prop of a knife is not a knife.
Mr Morden wrote: Just flicking through my old Storm of Chaos for background and the Dwarves seem to be pretty consistant with those shown there complete with beard talismans and leaping Slayers
Yes, Dwarfs have always had trinkets in their beards, I think the problem is actual axes and hammers are not trinkets. They're weapons; and having weapons in your beard is daft.
Aren't they just talismans of weapons? A prop of a knife is not a knife.
Yeah, they're just talismans.
"OMG!!1 weaponz in hair, lol thats terribul!1 im glad i collect de witches, lol"
"OMG!!1 weaponz in hair, lol thats terribul!1 im glad i collect de witches, lol"
What the hell was that?
Sorry, someone haxored my account through facebook. *nods*
Actually, that was my view how everyone was hating on the possibility of those things in their beards being weapons, and condemning it, while finding DE Wyches' hair-weapons perfecctly fine.
It's purely an aesthetic thing. Call them talismans, call them trinkets, call them weapons... they LOOK like weapons which makes them LOOK kinda silly. Trinkets in beards is fine, but these clearly look like weapons, even if they have no rules as weapons or they are specifically stated as not being weapons, they just look silly to me.
It's like you see this cool model (or even a not cool model) and then you look at it and realise something silly about it, now whenever you look at it, your eye is just drawn to the silly bit instead of the coolness.
Here the sprue of a plastic lord, as posted by L'Astropate:
It was supposed to be a plastic Dwarf Lord kit that was never released when intended (back around plastic Miners if I remember correctly was when this was commissioned)
If I remember correctly, it was part of the 6th ed release, but the mold broke, and the cost to recreate it was deemed too high to be worth the bother for a piece that wouldn't sell that many units.
Flashman wrote: Looks similar to what they did for Empire, High Elves and Orcs i.e. a Lord and Standard Bearer kit.
Why would they not release this at the time?
the most obvious is that there were problems with the castings where a significant numbers of sprues suffered some form of miss-casts (and you've tinkered with the mould all you can)
I've seen this is some of the scale model kits I buy from lower end manufacturers (who release them anyway as they can't afford not to) where lots of people have the same problems(s) with a kit, not the thing a 'high end' manufacturer will do
another option is it didn't fit in with the production schedule, and when it might have been squeezed in later other kits with more potential for sales were competing with it for casting time. Yes they'd make cash from sales, but something else would be thought to make more
They might have decided the kit didn't fit the look of the release (and they did use to try and keep a consistant look), either because it was designed earlier/later than the rest
If I remember correctly, it was part of the 6th ed release, but the mold broke, and the cost to recreate it was deemed too high to be worth the bother for a piece that wouldn't sell that many units.
This is correct
Here's a thread from 2008 with that exact same picture and discussion of the lord:
Well, you just have to look at the sprue once to notice that none of the parts visible on the new lord are there, so it's kinda hard to get confused here.
His Master's Voice wrote: Well, you just have to look at the sprue once to notice that none of the parts visible on the new lord are there, so it's kinda hard to get confused here.
That "new lord" is Belegar, a special character, so probably not a kit. So who is confused here?
Ironhammer and the Dragon Slayer are actually really close to the price on the two Dark Elf plastic clamshells that came out(Shadowblade and the Black Ark Fleetmaster).
A $1 difference on the kits($20 for Shadowblade/Fleetmaster and $21 for Ironhammer and the Dragon Slayer) is all that exists between the two release waves. They're a bit pricier than the current monopose Dwarfs, but I'll hold off on commenting too much until I see if the kits are able to be converted a bit.
Not sure about the Hammerers being $50. I wonder if they're similar to the Executioner/Black Guard kit with options for special characters in the box?
Considering that this nonsense with the White Dwarf is at least partly to hide their release schedule, it's probably going to be some time later in the month.
Kroothawk wrote:Actually, weakly WD announces new products from the week to come, so WD1 announces longbeards and two characters from 8th February, with armybook maybe as late as 15th February (announced in WD2).
BTW that way giving sneak peek rules in WD1 makes "sense": Some people buy it to see the rules one week early. And GW can continue with their "no content" policy.
And 50$ for 10 basically monopose miniatures seems the new standard.
(and unlike their overcharging for plastic troop boxes where economies of scale and the ability to sell lots to each player it's probably not too unreasonable)
Alpharius wrote: I'll admit to not having bought anything for WFB in a while but...
$21US for a single character in plastic?
Herald of Nurgle is $25 per model already, so it could be worse.
Of all the ridiculous prices, I don't particularly mind an overpriced character or two, since the plastic characters tend to be excellent sculpts, and are the best material for converting.
Alpharius wrote: I'll admit to not having bought anything for WFB in a while but...
$21US for a single character in plastic?
Herald of Nurgle is $25 per model already, so it could be worse.
Of all the ridiculous prices, I don't particularly mind an overpriced character or two, since the plastic characters tend to be excellent sculpts, and are the best material for converting.
Herald of Nurgle is a 25mm base v. 20mm--and that guy is actually kind of big comparatively.
So Hammerers are $50/ten with the new release, as opposed to 24.75 for 5 and 27.75 for command before. So really not a price increase or a price increase of $0.05 per model if you don't need command.
pretre wrote: So Hammerers are $50/ten with the new release, as opposed to 24.75 for 5 and 27.75 for command before. So really not a price increase or a price increase of $0.05 per model if you don't need command.
Yeah, but plastic is for plebs. Metal on the other hand, now that's something only the best of the best could appreciate.
pretre wrote: So Hammerers are $50/ten with the new release, as opposed to 24.75 for 5 and 27.75 for command before. So really not a price increase or a price increase of $0.05 per model if you don't need command.
Yeah, but plastic is for plebs. Metal on the other hand, now that's something only the best of the best could appreciate.
So the first 2 pics are of the longbeards who have different arms (HW, Shield) and new heads - conical helmets and long beards.
The Hammerer build has the flat helmets.
So I'm guessing no GW for the longbeards? Or maybe use the Hammers, but does the beard get in the way. Will they not have the great Weapon option in the new book?
EDIT: although you can see the words "two handed axe' under the image of the longbeards.
This is the first time in a while I've really been impressed with the aesthetic of a new GW kit. Those Longbeards look great and I like that they've increased the height of the dwarfs.
But unfortunately, there's the ridiculous price. GW take note... you would have had some of Flashman's hard earned if these had been reasonably priced. But looks like you will lose more money to Fantasy Flight this month
It is just so bad that we are having to see these miniatures on flash-exposed, bent magazine pages.
Seriously, what the feth are they thinking... those are quite obviously some great looking minis, and first impressions are being tarnished by these crappy photos. Really, I know the madness has been going on for a while now, but the company has to have some nous of how product marketing works and release the official, high res photos the moment the leaks have hit the internet.
Even if GW was prepared to show stuff early the internetwebz would still want to see stuff earlier than that and thus we'd be looking at crappy pictures anyway (but sooner)
car manufacturers do glitzy shows for new models often months (or even years) before you can buy them, but it doesn't stop motoring mags showing pictures of test vehicals covered in duct tape and fake bits snapped via long lenses when they were being tested
Pacific wrote: It is just so bad that we are having to see these miniatures on flash-exposed, bent magazine pages.
Seriously, what the feth are they thinking... those are quite obviously some great looking minis, and first impressions are being tarnished by these crappy photos. Really, I know the madness has been going on for a while now, but the company has to have some nous of how product marketing works and release the official, high res photos the moment the leaks have hit the internet.
Oh I don't know - I'm still mighty impressed with those longbeards. I loved the old metals and have a huge unit of them - but immediately started dreaming of the plastic ones when I saw that latest image - bent & shiny though it was.
The real image that is tarnishing my impression of them is the picture of the price. They need to start doing official price reveals before it leaks to the internet. Maybe show me a high res image of just the first digit and the dollar sign. Make it look really sexy. Then just tease the next number a little. Finally - show me the whole thing only when I have all three boxes in my hand at the cash register. That gives me less time to realize that that $180 Canadian could have bought an Entire Warmachine army and that I should just stick with my old metals.
Low_K wrote: Hmmm...Is that banner pole on the Longbeard's picture sticking its tongue out to the enemy? (that pink thingy looks like a tongue, does it not?)
Nah, that looks like a gemstone to me, if it was his tongue then it's a really long one as it's poking out his beard!
Definitely changing my mind about these dwarfs now after seeing more picture, still don't like the new character though, his beard isn't big enough! He should be one giant beard ith axes poking out the side damn it
I'm a bit annoyed about this release because I know I'll have moments of weakness on empty saturdays walking past GW where I'll think "Maybe the hammerers are worth it for 35 euro!"
And then I'll have to do the mental see-saw where I berate myself for being an idiot and walk on, just like I have to do with the Hunter Orcs on wargs every month or so.
jojo_monkey_boy wrote: The new set looks lovely. As others have said, a pity that GW is still pricing as it has been lately--it's like a cold shower for my gaming urges.
I can't help but wonder how they'll make the ironbreakers look more armoured than these models. Armoured beards!?
I feel as though this new Hammerers box could have been a "Hammerers/Ironbreakers" dual kit with just some hand weapon+shield arm options added in. I mean don't they now basically have the same helmet/armor style as the old ironbreakers, more or less?
If those are the longbeards then I wonder what the ironbreakers will look like, will the longbeards perhaps get a +1 str for there axes? Each unit needs a reason to take them, very curious
Longbeards are currently stronger than warriors, I guess that will remain true.
I was hoping they'd take the direction they have with the shields, really lives up to some of GW's awesome art for Dwarves. Shame the kit is so ludicrously over priced. I know I keep banging on about that but I guess this is the first time outside the Hobbit I've really been tempted by a kit that has that price tag.
Tre Manor's Dwarves will have to fill that niche for me
Da Boss wrote: I'm a bit annoyed about this release because I know I'll have moments of weakness on empty saturdays walking past GW where I'll think "Maybe the hammerers are worth it for 35 euro!"
Whenever this happens; just have this in your head.
I was really hoping for a resculpt of the current warriors though, they are beyond hideous.
Hmm, no one will mind if I use the new LB kit as warriors, will they?
Excellent models.
Not sure what different poses you'd expect from the Dwarves with two handed weapons. Fighting in tight ranks with a hammer as tall as you are you don't want Lefty McBackswing screwing around with his bold new combat techniques.
I will not play Fantasy, I will not play Fantasy...
plastictrees wrote: Excellent models.
Not sure what different poses you'd expect from the Dwarves with two handed weapons. Fighting in tight ranks with a hammer as tall as you are you don't want Lefty McBackswing screwing around with his bold new combat techniques.
I will not play Fantasy, I will not play Fantasy...
Agree, these look rather nice. Some of the recent (GW) releases looked a bit plastic toy-ish (not just the big stuff), and these look alive and have some character (and seem to not have these bent/broken necks the old plastic dwarves had).
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: Even if GW was prepared to show stuff early the internetwebz would still want to see stuff earlier than that and thus we'd be looking at crappy pictures anyway (but sooner)
car manufacturers do glitzy shows for new models often months (or even years) before you can buy them, but it doesn't stop motoring mags showing pictures of test vehicals covered in duct tape and fake bits snapped via long lenses when they were being tested
And which is fresher in the customer's mind in each case? I'd wager the car buyer is thinking about the glossy, appealing marketing over the sketchy unofficial preview shots of the prototype they saw ages ago, while the GW customer either knows nothing about upcoming releases or is forming their opinion based entirely on the sketchy unofficial previews which, thanks to GW's lunatic marketing policy, only appear a week or two in advance of the release.
In this specific case, some better shots have leaked before I placed my AoW order, and I might consider picking up a box on the strength of the Longbeards(more likely I'll ebay a couple from a bitz site), but I wouldn't even have been thinking about AoW at all if GW had a marketing strategy beyond "hurr we're so awesome people love to buy our stuffz durr".
I wouldn't be surprised if they just made Longbeards the new Ironbreakers and got rid of Ironbreakers completely. They look more up-armoured than Warriors so it's not a stretch to think they'd have Gromril Armour instead of just heavy... and at the end of the day Ironbreakers were just Longbeards with Gromril armour anyways. And it's one less plastic kit they need to make.
Cirronimbus wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they just made Longbeards the new Ironbreakers and got rid of Ironbreakers completely. They look more up-armoured than Warriors so it's not a stretch to think they'd have Gromril Armour instead of just heavy... and at the end of the day Ironbreakers were just Longbeards with Gromril armour anyways. And it's one less plastic kit they need to make.
Cirronimbus wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they just made Longbeards the new Ironbreakers and got rid of Ironbreakers completely. They look more up-armoured than Warriors so it's not a stretch to think they'd have Gromril Armour instead of just heavy... and at the end of the day Ironbreakers were just Longbeards with Gromril armour anyways. And it's one less plastic kit they need to make.
Co-sign. Green stuff up some face masks, and you're gtg. They look epic as is, though!
Only think I'm not liking about GW's new releases these days, is the "at ease" pose all the new models seem to have. Aside from that, keep up the good work G-Dub!
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: Even if GW was prepared to show stuff early the internetwebz would still want to see stuff earlier than that and thus we'd be looking at crappy pictures anyway (but sooner)
No, that is stupid. There wouldn't be any crappy pictures for people to leak if the web pics were to be released first. Or do you think the leakers would take the ready-to-share jpgs and deliberately add glare and warp to make their scoop worse?
Grimtuff wrote: Whenever this happens; just have this in your head.
For 25% off, I probably will end up buying those longhammerers. All the extra bits will go a long way to sprucing up my AoW dwarfs. And my box full of shamefully unassembled GW dwarfs.
Crikey, they are some seriously nice Dwarf miniatures. I especially like the King. I'm sorely tempted to pick him up just to dab some paint on.
Nicest GW mini I've seen in a while that one.
Anyway, the infantry formations look incredibly cool, right up there with Paniagua and Scibor's excellent and characterful height challenged beardy men.
However, when it's all said and done... the bonkers pricing means I'm quite happy to have plumped for some Titan Forge Abyssal/Chaos/Evil Dwarfs when I had the chance so no regrets from me!
I'm just crossing my fingers that the rumours of 9th edition reverting to smaller units is true, might tempt me with these guys in the future.
Achaylus72 wrote: Those 10 man box sets will be about $81.00 Australian Dollars or about $96.00 New Zealand Dollars
Oh, I hadn't even considered that. Most of the recent 10 man releases have been around the $70 mark - hopefully that doesn't continue to climb. The price gouge in Aus is really getting ridiculous.
Those look fantastic, but at $60CAD for 10, way too expensive for me to even want to think about. I'd rather save the money for other things where my dollar will go farther. Excellent minis, but the price is just insane (unless something magical occurs and you can actually make a full, viable unit in WFB with only 10 minis ). I'm not holding my breath.
Ashitaka wrote: So the first 2 pics are of the longbeards who have different arms (HW, Shield) and new heads - conical helmets and long beards.
The Hammerer build has the flat helmets.
So I'm guessing no GW for the longbeards? Or maybe use the Hammers, but does the beard get in the way. Will they not have the great Weapon option in the new book?
EDIT: although you can see the words "two handed axe' under the image of the longbeards.
got the new white dwarf.
yes you can build them with two handed axe, but they look better with the shield imo
for those wondering, iron breaker are still in the codex, and longbeard and hammerer have heavy armour, while ironbreaker has gromgil. Hammerer have 2 attacks. Suposedly, all heads and weapons in the kit are unique
Madmatt wrote: hey streets is there any rules for Belegar in the mag.
care to indulge us?
Pleeeeeease
same stats as a dwarf lord, but with +1 ws and stubborn. He can double his attack once per game (revenge incarnate)
waepon has asf and +1 to wound
magic shield has 4+ ward save and imminue to all sort of killing blow
tehy mention that few can wisthand him in a challege because of his ancestral grudge and revenge incarnate. They don't say what ancestral grudge his, but a little fluff text at the end of the mag, under this name says that dwarf hate greenskins and ratmen equally, so i guess they now also hae hatred agaisnt skaven
Thanks streets, you go alright hey.
the old ancestral grudge was hatred of greenskins maybe its the same or maybe they've changed it up a bit.
exciting times!
Well, I feel totally vindicated. From the very first post, I was the only person that felt the hammerers were good looking models, but the naysayers shot me down in flames!
These new pictures vindicate my stance. Me 1 Dakka 0
One nil, one nil, one nil, one nil...
Yes, the price, as usual, is ridiculously high, but seeing as I wasn't going to be buying them anyway
Very impressed by the design, coming off the back of the impressive looking Dark Elf models, that's two in a row for GW's fantasy releases. If only they could sort out the price.
I feel that they could have tried a lot harder on the basic dynamic feel of the poses. Not really a reason to order from GW when avatars of war dwarves are superior.
So now they have crap rules AND cant claim they make the best models in the world.
Orock wrote: I feel that they could have tried a lot harder on the basic dynamic feel of the poses. Not really a reason to order from GW when avatars of war dwarves are superior.
So now they have crap rules AND cant claim they make the best models in the world.
Ok, how do you propose they make them dynamic in such a way that they can easily be ranked up?
WUUURRRRT? Two attacks on hammerers? That's pretty exciting. Also, really like the idea that Skaven would be included in the ancestral grudge. Very excited to see the book.
streetsamurai wrote:for those wondering, iron breaker are still in the codex, and longbeard and hammerer have heavy armour, while ironbreaker has gromgil. Hammerer have 2 attacks. Suposedly, all heads and weapons in the kit are unique
Damn, I was hoping the Hammerers and Longbeards would have better than a 5+ armour save. It's pretty absurd that they're wearing more metal than a Panzer III, yet they only count as heavy armour. I hope the army special rules give Dwarf armour some more resilience, because at present, heavy armour isn't that useful against most things you commonly see on the table.
2 attack Hammerers are nice though.
streetsamurai wrote:same stats as a dwarf lord, but with +1 ws and stubborn. He can double his attack once per game (revenge incarnate)
waepon has asf and +1 to wound
magic shield has 4+ ward save and imminue to all sort of killing blow
tehy mention that few can wisthand him in a challege because of his ancestral grudge and revenge incarnate. They don't say what ancestral grudge his, but a little fluff text at the end of the mag, under this name says that dwarf hate greenskins and ratmen equally, so i guess they now also hae hatred agaisnt skaven
I hope the weapon and shield have those abilities through runes, rather than being magic in their own right (i.e. they're magic items, not runed ones). I might be reading too much into this though.
Hatred against Skaven is awesome, about bloody time. Mind you, you tend to only get to fight Skavenslaves, but still nice to have it.
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I know, I know. I just couldn't resist.
I keep seeing those "they aren't dynamic enough!" posts, and I just had to vent.
Same here mate. I don't want my disciplined, well-drilled Dwarven infantry cartwheeling and leaping across the battlefield. Walking deliberately in well-formed ranks with their weapons at the Port Arms position is perfect. Just before they start pulping skulls and caving in chest cavities....
I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
timofeo wrote: I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
timofeo wrote: I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
Hahahhahahahhahahahahahaha
No.
I dont know man it sounded pretty legit as he had the White Dwarf in hand, but who knows.
I doubt they are going to drop the books that would kill $50 to $60 per dwarf player GW would loose out on. They might have rules in the Dwarf but a army book should still come out later.
timofeo wrote: I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
Okay, Petre, looks like we've another rumor to track.
sonofruss wrote: I doubt they are going to drop the books that would kill $50 to $60 per dwarf player GW would loose out on. They might have rules in the Dwarf but a army book should still come out later.
I agree that it seems odd, but it just came off as very confirmed stat cards and that leads me to believe no Dwarf book which then further leads me to believe no books. However maybe there was a misunderstanding and they meant something else I have no clue I am just relaying the rumor since it seemed intriguing.
RiTides wrote: What do you mean, that latest pic is Longbeards with 2-handed axes, not Hammerers...
Egg on face time... Damn your sharp eyed observations!
Just for the record: Dakka 1 You 0
One nil, one nil, one nil, one nil...
Just you wait until the world cup in June. You'd better pray that Germany don't meet England!
Anyway, back OT. If the hammerers and the longbeards are like this, there doesn't seem to be too much creative freedom for any new ironbreakers. All these units could end up looking the same.
sonofruss wrote: I doubt they are going to drop the books that would kill $50 to $60 per dwarf player GW would loose out on. They might have rules in the Dwarf but a army book should still come out later.
I agree that it seems odd, but it just came off as very confirmed stat cards and that leads me to believe no Dwarf book which then further leads me to believe no books. However maybe there was a misunderstanding and they meant something else I have no clue I am just relaying the rumor since it seemed intriguing.
If it was 9th edition MAYBE but we're still in 8th.
Red_Zeke wrote: WUUURRRRT? Two attacks on hammerers? That's pretty exciting. Also, really like the idea that Skaven would be included in the ancestral grudge. Very excited to see the book.
And I'm excited to see you try it out and hopefully write it up!
Edit:
Can someone link me to the old dwarf rumor thread? I can't find anything in this thread except about these few releases (the longbeards, hammerers, and two characters). Seemingly, more would follow the week the book comes out... do we know what those are? There was a big kit rumored earlier...
Found this previous info from BOLS but I feel like there must be a more current rumor set?
Have no fear, the stunties are on the march - headed your way in February. Here is the rundown of new kits coming down the mountain.
Latest word speaks of:
Dwarfs - February (I'd bet on February 8th)
The Kits:
Plastic Tunneling Vehicle
Plastic infantry heavy armor unit kit (dual-build)
Plastic infantry light armor unit kit (dual-build)
Plastic War Altar
Plastic New VERY large gun/cannon
Plastic Beefier Gyrocopter
Clampack Lord
No finecast was mentioned at all. If you look at what needs plastic kits in the existing Dwarf range, and look to the old-unit/new unit splits in the Dark Elves release for inspiration, it's not too hard to figure out what's coming.
These latest set descriptions dovetail almost exactly with Spanish rumors from early November.
timofeo wrote: I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
Okay, Petre, looks like we've another rumor to track.
So does anyone know- are the above rumors I just copied the most recent regarding the other kits? I'm surprised there's not more discussion of the other kits yet... this staggered release plan by GW kinda sucks.
Te heavy armor dual kit unit is most likely the hammeres/longbeards in this weeks WDW.
Rumors are saying the large tunneling kit isn't happening.
I haven't seen the WDW but apparently it mentions something about engineers next week. People are guessing that hints at an engineer clampack and/or gyrocopters, but maybe it could be the large vehicle/cannon?
You would think next weeks pics would be leaked by now or starting to be leaked.
People are saying the light armor dual kit was mistranslated, but I'm hoping it is warriors/quarelers/thunderers. It has been reported that it is in fact slayers and a "new berserker" unit.
I was hoping for new warriors and cannon kits, but since they appear next to the new units in this weeks WDW, my guess is that hey will not be re-released.
Also, I notice you're in Baltimore, MD... you're in my neck of the woods . Did you check out the White Dwarf Weekly in one of the stores here, or are you just going off pics posted online, etc?
Te heavy armor dual kit unit is most likely the hammeres/longbeards in this weeks WDW.
Rumors are saying the large tunneling kit isn't happening.
I haven't seen the WDW but apparently it mentions something about engineers next week. People are guessing that hints at an engineer clampack and/or gyrocopters, but maybe it could be the large vehicle/cannon?
You would think next weeks pics would be leaked by now or starting to be leaked.
People are saying the light armor dual kit was mistranslated, but I'm hoping it is warriors/quarelers/thunderers. It has been reported that it is in fact slayers and a "new berserker" unit.
I was hoping for new warriors and cannon kits, but since they appear next to the new units in this weeks WDW, my guess is that hey will not be re-released.
Ok went to my FLGS and they were selling the weekly white dwarf issue 1.
Belegar Ironhammer Rocks ,though it does not mention his armor so assume it's gromril
He can double his attacks once per game, has a 4+ ward save, immune to any sort of killing blow and has +1 to wound with ASF
They only discuss the Hammer/Longbeard kit and the two hero clam packs. Nothing else is discussed in the articles. I will have to go over it again to see if there is anything I missed.
I guess they are really trying to get rid of those metal slayers! It looks weird seeing the new slayer standing next to the old metal models. Looks like two different companies!
MRPYM wrote: Just saw the prices on the new dwarfs.
Still expensive to make one unit of either of these.
Also where is the dwarf army book?
It's GW's new system, apparently. Instead of waiting for the book to release everything, they are now releasing new sets periodically regardless of whether or not the book is done yet.
This can either be interpreted in 2 ways:
1) They are trying to gain favor with the players of neglected factions
No codex listed online. Guess that means there will be a new one at the end of the month.
I assume this squashes the hopes of a new warriors box, as they are still listed.
Looks like the finecast Runelord and Engineer aren't listed, guess we can start speculating on what the next two clampacks are!
$50 for 10 is absurd. Especially since you will probably need at minimum two boxes to make one unit. However, we can't be certain as there is NO CODEX....yet.
timofeo wrote: I heard from my store guys GW rep that the new Dwarfs have stat cards, and with no Book so that makes me think the whole 9th ed no books and 1 book to rule them all thing may not be far off.
Okay, Petre, looks like we've another rumor to track.
I don't track silly rumors.
I hope he ends up being right, just so I can see you eat those words.
Not particularly. The White Dwarf, even when he does not have rules for that edition, is likely just placed in there so that people can know that "He can be used as a Dwarf Lord/Hero" if someone so chose.
) Also, good to see a dwarf that isn't a beard with legs.
Never understood why Slayers wear those things. And as for the barefeet, you can imagine some night goblin scattering a few nails about the battlefield. No wonder the dwarf holds are getting captured 
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