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Thanks Galorn :-) that's a real nice thing to say! I will admit i'm a little stuck on my Shrine model as to what colour to paint the main eagle on the front? I was thinking either black & glossy with gold detailing or a marble effect? I do have a small statue i'm going to use in a fountain I want to do marble and don't want to overdo it though? hmmmm tough decisions!
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I want to make a fountain  yep, a fountain, I can buy one but i need to hone some terrain skills, so i thought i'd experiment with some things, first to find a suitable base for the project, at the local Bunnings i grabbed a bunch of plumbing and connecting things, pipes etc. in this lot was a cap for a pipe  good size not too high or wide, enough space in the middle to make a stand for a statue later on, now for the bricks or stone to go around it, greenstuff? no, too sticky and i don't like it for larger jobs, I thought i'd make some bricks myself somehow? after a bit of searching i found that an air dry clay would be suitable for my needs, so, off i went to get some
I rolled it out and cut it with the side of a ruler to get the shapes of the bricks and then used my scalpel to do gentle scoring to give it some texture then ran my finger over it to look kind of aged and worn.
that's as far as i've gotten, bricks are nearly dry now so then i'll attach them and grab some pics!
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Post by: Galorn
another easy way to add a kind of "stoney" texture is to take of aluminum foil crumple it into a ball then roll it across the surface you are trying to texture.
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Now, that's a very good idea! I never thought of that (obviously) i'll give that a whirl next time if this doesn't look right! the other problem was getting the bricks all the same, as when you cut with a scalpel it draws the edge slightly, that's why i used a ruler instead to push down, maybe if i can find a sieve or similar with the right size rectangles i can use it to push down on another attempt? Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, I also started this thread with terrain inspiration, thought it might be useful to some of the league and terrain guys! :-)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/478716.page Automatically Appended Next Post: Did a little more on the fountain, I used all purpose filler to act as mortar to stick the bricks too, it looks pretty rough and i'll use more to use as grout between them and smooth it out a bit more as i go when it dries overnight
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You can also try your local Hardwar store for 6, 11 or 14?mm square mesh (those are the standards anyway)
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
wow nerdfest... that is looking damn cool... ! i am working atm myself on a fountain... it´s for the leagues scratchbuilding second competitions price for mr.merlin... i am not going the brickwork route but the riveted steal plate route... riveting was obligatory^^
the air dry clay bricks look better than i thought... i hope the connection between plastic and filler will stay strong... ... for jobs as these i also worked with FIMO... and made sandbags and bricks too...even cobblestones once... will it have a base?
also... a trick for the fountains water "spitters" is to use nylon string as a means to support and guide the watereffect... IF you dont want to loose that much money in watereffects ... like me  then i can suggest using either PVA and let it dry... and then paint over completly... or use window color clear ... this will be like hardcoating it... the windowcolor simmulates the water stream... and it hardens suitably... i did some muddy squishy bases with this already...
good luck with the further works on that cool project!!!
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Hey Vik! :-) cheers mate! I have a bottle of water effect about half full still, i bought it years ago when it was the big bottle (and it was still expensive!) I'd love to try the water spouts and i think i will!
I'm hoping the bricks work out to look a little bit less juvenile and amateurish when I'm done? i'm still learning the properties of the bits I got, so whether to coat it all in pva glue to seal it or if it doesn't need it etc.
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Post by: SagesStone
Interesting, I'll have to try it. Beats the crappy slow way I was doing it before.
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Post by: KingCracker
Sweet, more terrain building. I REALLY need to get off my ass and build some Orky terrain. I only have "3" and I say that in quotes because they are only a pile of random junk....so kindda Orky, but also something you could see on any battlefield
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
if push comes to shove and the dried brick still look too "juvenille" as you put it... brush slighty over them with a steel brush... the one you would use for cleaning grills and stuff...
and well if you still have it... then this will be cool... !!!
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Well boys, I used more spak filla to grout the bricks and it looks much better  pics tomorrow of progress! also made the center stand and put bricks around it too, i think it'll work!  even if it will look more 'fantasy' than gothic! i'll put a plaque on it or something special
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
sounds cool!
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Dont you have a job or something to do?
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Post by: Galorn
Not sure about yours but my local hardware store stocks brass "pipe" in a rectangular shape that makes a perfect 28mm brick stamp.
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Ive seen those, those would work a charm for bricks
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
Galorn wrote:Not sure about yours but my local hardware store stocks brass "pipe" in a rectangular shape that makes a perfect 28mm brick stamp.
a pic would be apreciated... beside... your hint for the ball of aluminium... that will be tested!
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the arches look really expensive now!!!
and those bricks... how are you intending to paint them? no easy way around that i think...
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Hey Vik, thanks man, I like the gold windows, once i've done some more work it'll be pretty impressive me thinks!
not 100% on the bricks yet, I think i'll seal,them and then prime and layer multiple dry brush passes? maybe even try doing them in a red tone and copy the brick wall in my other thread?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hmmm... i think the mortar lines are the big obstacle here... they are quite wide... for drybrushings... i think you will fare better with just plain painting them...
so i gather you will do this in red brickstones then?
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yeah thinking about it, as it's an experiment I've got nothing to lose, so dark mortar and red bricks with a gold plaque and marble statue on top?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hmmm.... if you go red stone... then i rather would like to see copper statue with verdigris... if it´s all the same to you  ... red and green mate... red and green^^
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Post by: nerdfest09
Ah good choice! and a butload easier to paint too! :-)
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
depends... good verdigris is a mtric ton of brushwork... did that on my bunker for the first LoeR comp... took me ages...
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Like the gold. I did verdigris for my honoured imperium statue, well worth it and there's decent tutorials our there. Doing it back to front works well (as in starting light, then through dark tones, then metal last).
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Just throwing this out there, but if i were to one day obtain a DKoK Commissar, and want to paint him (as you would) does anyone have any slightly different ideas for painting him up? I do like the dirty greens and browns commonly seen but I'd be inclined to make him lighter (if I obtained one of course!) and have him in grey fatigues/trenchcoat with red lapels, gold brocade with a tan gas mask and red glass lenses? thoughts?...
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
lighter scheme sounds good...
i thought the gallery would provide a pic but not so much...
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We now return you to your normal scheduled Nerdblogging!
Yep, got some paint on a Hellbrute I bought for a mate of mine! I think it's a fair swap, I help him sort out a Chaos army and show him how to paint them, and he gave me...... a PS3!  sweeeeet! anyway, he chose the Iron Warriors as they'd be an easier scheme to learn and he liked the aesthetics of them and the fluff  which now gave me a perfect opportunity to try my hand at a few things, first.... chaos....second,....Iron Warriors, thirdly,........translucent skin!
I was kinda inspired and egged on to try this by reading Mechanicum Jon's thread and seeing the veins on his Grotesques (which look great btw Jon!) I had these images of flesh and machine merged and melding together and the Hellbrute is the perfect vehicle for the imagery i imagined, large bulging flesh areas with armour minimal but prominent, not too many spikey bits etc,
anyway, this is what i've done so far today, I primed white, then washed the whole model with a watered down mix of Baal red, Leviathan purple, Ogryn flesh, mainly to see where i need to paint and to start adding the shades , then i went to bed..... slept for 2.5 hours and got up again!  .... made a coffee ( a Gweneth Paltrow style) and got back into the model  using a fine brush i added the start of my veins using Baal red slightly thinned, then went over them again with pure Baal focusing on the 'intersections' of the veins,over this I then went with Leviathan purple and traced out all the veins again using the same theory and adding a few more lines running off from the previous veins, lastly I went over them again with Asurmen blue and darkened more areas of them and yet again added small pale blue veins, I wanted a sort of realistic look to the flesh with a bit of ott style so i looked at pictures of elderly peoples varicose veins and shamefully Bane from the old crappy Batman and Robin movie
That's so far today, I still need to add some darker shading to the flesh and glaze with purple/red then knock it back with a flesh glaze maybe? then it's armour time! I plan on making it quite worn and beaten with rust pitting and i think gleaming white horns would look good with the painting? only thing i'm unsure of is his face? should i leave it blending in with the flesh or try and make it appear more scarified but still blending in? colour etc.?
well, hope you like the progress so far!  more on the morrow bro's!
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Post by: jirc
Nice nice and nice. Love you man!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Ooh, fleshy. Maybe consider a sepia wash before the glaze to add a bit more depth? Love the wash approach though.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Very nice Nerdy... those veins are really turning out well.
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Post by: KingCracker
I just got to eye the Hellbrute in person last night, along with the rest of the Chaos stuff in that set, and man was I impressed. Talk about cool minis. Nice work on it so far, theres so much gak on that compared to a typical SM model, how are you handling the change from flat and smooth to holy friggin frack stuff everywhere!!
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Post by: GiraffeX
Yeah thats looking very nice, I like the veins idea.
Now chaos has its claws in you the conversion to the dark side is upon us
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
the paintjob as is is looking totally cool... love the shades of the skin... also the hazard stripes look really regular...very steady hands you have mister...
one thing tho... seeing as this model is built from big parts... i see lots of gaps... in rather obvious places... seems to me these needed filling earler on...
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Cheers guys, I'm enjoying painting him quite a lot, but not enough to switch to the dark side! :-) the washing idea is working out well, i'm hoping to finish the flesh today and get a bit more done on the armour, and yes, it is a big difference in painting style when you go from SM's to oodles of bits everywhere, but the approach i'm taking is to look at him in 3 parts, flesh/armour/extra's doesn't make it so daunting then :-)
and I know there's a few large gaps but the model is just for gaming and is a gift for a friend of mine so it's not overly important to fill them this time around :-) plus i don't have any liquid gs! lol
more this arvo everyone...
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Post by: Charky
I like the way you did the flesh Nerdfest, looks really good at this point.
Im not sure what you should do about the head. But the head is kinda a centerpiece off the model, might be cool to do something about it, then just the same colour as the flesh, something to make it popp ^^
Keep on happy painting!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
if you still consider filling the gaps tho i would suggest PVA... i literally wouldn´t know what to do with myself if i wouldn´t have any PVA at home
and i see your point mate^^
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I cannot believe I didn't check this out earlier. Subbed!
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Post by: finnan
all kinds of awesome /thumbs up
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Post by: SagesStone
Well, at least it isn't an EC HS.
Sort of looks like marble. But, in a good way aged and such to show that it's a ruin. Wouldn't expect pristine marble on a mostly destroyed building.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Wow, that marble effect looks great! Would be very much interested in a tut.
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Post by: KingCracker
Holy gak mate! Youve got to explain how you did the marbling. That looks like a slab of kitchen counter I nearly bought once
As for Hellscrote, Ive got an inkpen topper thats a penis, you can add it to the Hellscrote if you want
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Post by: FutureTense
That marble effect turned out well. It looks leaps and bounds better than it being it painted just metallic.
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Post by: dsteingass
Dood! That is an awesome effect!
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Post by: Styrofoam04
excellent work on the marble!! I like the hellbrute as well. I had no idea where to start on mine. But this is as good a place then any.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
the hellball looks very cool... the stripes are by far the strongest detail here... which i totally like...
the marble...very cool looking... tho i have to say... you gotta do something about the light issue!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
The marble is very cool, reminds me a bit of littleboyblue's work. Great effect, I demand another tutorial!
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Post by: nerdfest09
 Oh thanks guys! i'm happy you think it worked, I probably would make some of the veins longer in hindsight but when you work close up on the panel it looks different from a distance  to paint it I can give you a quick rundown if you like? i used the MassiveVooDoo method on their website as a rough guide:
Based Dheneb stone, then made light waves with Gryphone sepia watered down, then while it was still damp I followed the same rough lines with slightly darker gryphone sepia then did finer veins with snakebite leather and finally very fine ones with snakebite and black mix, once dried i washed the whole thing with gryphone sepia to knock it back and tie it together
@Vik: what do you mean light issue
Since I took the pics i've painted ardcoat over the marble and it looks good, I need to give it another coat to really gloss it up but pics will happen once i do more work on the windows
Hellscrote's face? how about the face painted up like a 'normal' marine fading into the swollen purples? i'm afraid i'm going to lose it's focus with the rest of the model!
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Post by: Elnibbus
Very cool marble effect there dude- I echo the above about the demand for a tutorial!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i think the recent pics are sadly not really done with good lightning... way too dark and thus a bit too grainy...as i think that cool looking art of yours needs better light to be admired for real!
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Post by: GreyDeathOne
I agree with Vic NF09. You got really good blending on your models and its a shame we cannot enjoy them in proper lighting! The Hellbrute came out awsome and love the hazard strips and on your SoA the marble is really realistic looking. Bit like Vic said we must see the light!
Keep up the awsome work cannot wait to see more!
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GreyDeathOne wrote:I agree with Vic NF09. You got really good blending on your models and its a shame we cannot enjoy them in proper lighting! The Hellbrute came out awsome and love the hazard strips and on your SoA the marble is really realistic looking. Bit like Vic said we must see the light!
Keep up the awsome work cannot wait to see more!
Ah, i see said the blind man  I'm taking pics with my phone using snapbucket as it drops them straight into my photobucket account and my phone is actually better than my camera  I'll try and get them a bit brighter for you next time guys but i'm afraid they'll be too close/bright/washed out?
It may be a week until I get a chance to do any work to show you  I'll attempt to finish Hellscrote and my speeders when i can, I also got my How to make wargames terrain book in the post today!  it's actually pretty good I'm happy with the purchase and it'll help me with a few (hundred) projects!
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well...happy reading then
and always "try" to do daylight pics... the colors thus and ther general lighting issue will be solved... the camera "opeing" times are way shorter this way so you get sharper pics and all...and if you have a timer function with the phone cam... then try to use that as a trail...
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I was thinking either green or rusty brorange(brown orange......ya) As far as an oil slick, wait till its dry and then make/use washes to get the desired effect, heres a pic of some ON green water even
Hmmmm too bad dish soap doesnt dry that way. I think I might try a few things later and see what I come up with for ya
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Post by: Dr H
Maybe try some layering or airbrushing over some masking.
And take note that the oil slick will only form on the surface of relatively calm water, so there will be an area around where that leak is churning the water where you won't see the oil.
And the colours are due to refraction and so the angle of the water surface will affect the colour to a certain extent, meaning the bands of colour may seem to follow the shape of the larger ripples.
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looks like some research is in order then! :-) I do love a good challenge! .... heck i love a bad challenge....... strangely it was always the bad challenges that got me into trouble! like trying to ride an upright piano down a VERY steep street! and getting caught by the homeowner! Ah the good 'ol days!
looks like i need to do me some googling boyz!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
yeah... what kingcracker said... probably a mix of washes will get you a nice oily effect...
the statue looks nice... tho with the round pedestal of the fountain you need to make these align...
and i like those big pipes... looking very dramtic! tho i have to say with these... the trickle should be a bit thicker then...
oh, and i like the sloshes and strockes you already did with that air dry clay... nice idea that you can consider nicked
just my five cents tho
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Post by: SagesStone
There's probably a tutorial somewhere for the same effect on metal, it should more or less apply to water.
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Viktor von Domm wrote:yeah... what kingcracker said... probably a mix of washes will get you a nice oily effect...
the statue looks nice... tho with the round pedestal of the fountain you need to make these align...
and i like those big pipes... looking very dramtic! tho i have to say with these... the trickle should be a bit thicker then...
oh, and i like the sloshes and strockes you already did with that air dry clay... nice idea that you can consider nicked
just my five cents tho 
I always value everyone's 2cents Vik  it's what helps us get better and learn things mate!
with the statue I intend to add a riveted plate on the base so it sits flat on the pedestal, the sloshes in the waste is actually poly filler the stuff you use to repair cracks in walls etc. it comes in a small tub and it's handy!  I just dabbed a bit in there and teased it with my fingers until it looked o.k, Oh and don't fret, i fully intend to broaden the stream from the pipe Vik  just needed to get my guide there!
and as for the oil effect I 'may'[i] have found something i can experiment with  thinking of this as a test?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YJ5vvjM4f-0/TsnoFNhWl6I/AAAAAAAACp8/_8TKfMSHaSw/s1600/Opal+Swirl3.jpg
inspiration pops up in the strangest places eh!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
actually that nailpolish could be your winner...not good tho for picture taking as the effect will fully be able to oggle at in RL then... but well you are not only building your stuff for us
and yes...filler was my second guess^^ couldn´t tell as the stuff is as white as the clay
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Oh yes, that nail polish is win.
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Im working on your oil problem currently. Im hoping/thinking that if I make the "oil slick" area painted in boltgun or mithril silver, and then wash over the metal paint, itll give it that nice anodized look you get from oil slicks. This should be fun! Automatically Appended Next Post: OK I got a little progress anyways, I think some type of metal paint and then oil slick colors seem to work best. I messed with a couple ways of getting them to streak but I think the best can be seen in the top middle
I just put 4 wash colors in the design I wanted quikly so they were all still very wet. Then I dipped my brush in water a bit, and just ran it through the colors from the outside inwards. I think it actually works better groin from the inside out, making the brightest color streak outwards.
This one here I used the same color of the water, with just purple and blue, so it went dark green/purple/blue. I got too much water on the brush when I streaked, but it still gives you an idea. That seemed like a better way to go with it, though adding red and yellow (as I did in the picture above) gives the slick a bit more character.
In either case though, I think metal needs to be under the slick, as it gives it that metallic look and sheen that an oil slick can have. Good luck
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good looking exeriments there KC! very helpful too! that´s what makes this board so damn addictive!!! all those peeps with cool ideas and all working for one main purpose without too much envy!!!
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I only envy myself. And then I hate me for it
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sweet KC thanks dude! that's something else i can look at! :-) i'm a happy nerd bro! might have a shot today if i get a chance? gonna work on the shrine as well, what's everyone else got going on the table?
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LOL... er ...yes... whatever you say
being oneselfs main competition is a major groinkicker i guess^^... or to put it in another way... at the top it is very lonley
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Im working on my DAKKAjet and trying to get the motivation to paint my GrotNob. I think I just need the wife gone and the kids to leave me alone for more then 5 minutes. And while those dry, I should be painting BigMek Whirrlygig
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KingCracker wrote:Im working on my DAKKAjet and trying to get the motivation to paint my GrotNob. I think I just need the wife gone and the kids to leave me alone for more then 5 minutes. And while those dry, I should be painting BigMek Whirrlygig
'When those dry'? the wife and kids? what the hell are you doing to them?....... giving them the hose again are we?
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Post by: WarMill
Sometimes it's the only language they understand
Awesome PJs on those chaos figs, the new models are calling to me even though I know they'll never get painted even if I sold my soul twice.
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lol,  yes Warmill that is sometimes the only way!  I won't get into the old 'you should see my hose' talk we all need a good pit in the basement!
And i have some more pics for your enjoyment and this time it's a MASSIVE thank you to KingCracker! that beard (or is it a man?) took it upon himself to experiment with oily liquid sheen on a surface and I used his test as a guide and did something beautiful (i think?)  I'm very happy with the result so far I am yet to add water effects to shine it up and thicken the flowing liquid from the pipe, but the trick was to drybrush mithril silver and wash with inks then let dry and drybrush and wash again until the effect is achieved as you wish!

Next up it was the statue for my fountain, i looked at my inspiration pics thread and tried to get a feel similar to the statue in there of John Glover, I didn't have hawk turquoise so I used Dheneb stone with Thraka green as a mixer, this gave it the chalky look while the green tinge still remained, i then washed parts with the green to strengthen the colour  and a little touch up with Tin Bitz finished her off nicely.


Now for some not really new stuff, i did some work on the shrine, and glossed the marble again and did some start work on drybrushing the walls and weathering the steel flooring on the inside  how is it looking guys?



Random pic of my Samoyed
Now a little tester for the Stained glass windows I will be working on soon, I have the actual windows being sorted and printed on good quality acetate, but the curly problem was how to add the raised lead frame around all the glass bits  well, thank you those strange old ladies who do scrap booking  I found an embossing pen that uses a gel to draw on non porous shiny surfaces... hmmmm, like my acetate?.... why yes Damo just like your acetate!  well then i best try it out.... like this on some left over computer screens on..... acetate!

And lastly here's one for the terrain boys and girls i've been chillin' with lately  .... yep fella's here's Nerdfest09's VERY FIRST RIVETS! a 1.5mm punch for $7- thank you!
Sorry there's a bit to sort through and not really exciting but hopefully enough to whet your appetite and something to talk about!
Damo
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wow... that verdigris effect on your statue is looking damn fine sir! never would i have thought that adding dheneb stone to the mix with thrakka green would come to this effect! cool idea... will use that too!
and the marbellooks again very good... so i can only state that the pics are better than the last time, not really what you´ve changed
i am not really comprehending what you did for those stained window frames tho... i think i have a glimpse but not the ...er...whole picture
and nice doggie^^ had to look up the race tho... as he looks bigger in that pic as probably in RL...
the sloshes of the leakage... very good looking... i am eager to see how this will turn out when watereffects are added!
as for the rivetmaker ... are you satisfied with that product? looks like the tiny rivtes come out a but fuzzy areound the edges? are you pressing hard enough?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Great job on the water Damo! I'm also really impressed with your work on the statue. Very realistic look to it. Well done man.
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Yeah along with the dog it all looks good so far.
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Pff, thats right, its all the beard, every bit of it. It hammers out greatness, and asks for nothing in return
That water turned out purdy good so far! Hope it looks even better with the water works on it. And agreed, that Marble is just tip top. Too bad Orks arnt really about the pretty marble work. Maybe Ill try it out on something someday, because that looks great
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Ah thanks guys! :-) I've just layed down my first coat of water effect on the waste pit, it kinda looks good for a manufactorum spewing out an oily mercury! pics later today!
@Vik, yeah the rivets are a bit fuzzy only in one spot though so it shouldn't be too hard to clean up, also I'm not sure i have the correct plasticard to punch them from? I had to use a textured one i had lying around which may have had an effect on the finish? and you had to look up my Samoyed! really? you never seen one before! and that's my little girl Issabella :-) she's about 23kg and roughly the size of a soft fluffy Husky! Osc is my boy he's nearly 30kg and about the size of a slender female german Shepherd! they are my constant modeling companions!
And thanks Gits and Not_U, glad you are still kicking it Nerd style! the statue turned out better than i hoped, I looked at the verdigris pics and it was chalky and quite white so i figured correctly that dheneb stone would help! and the wash just tints it nicely :-)
@KC: dude you need to do a website hosted by 'The Beard' where he gives opinions and chews people out about the hobby! you two could interview each other! all you need is some of those googly Muppet eyes to add to the hairy beast! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh Vik, about the windows, so you get the 'whole picture' what I'm planning is to add stained glass windows into the frames on my shrine of the aquila, i wanted them to appear as real as possible so printed paper was out, I talked to my dad who owns a marketing printing and advertising agency and he can print me some stained glass windows on the same clear acetate as i had the computer screens printed on, so i used a spare screen to test some gel pens i found to add the raised lead that joins the coloured glass together in a real window, they'll work really nicely I think after having a play with them, when you draw on glossy non porous surfaces it leaves a raised line about 1mm or so high, just waiting for the print outs in a couple of weeks when my folks get back from thailand!
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ah... i see... now all is understood... i bet under these conditions the stained windows will look awesome... ther gel pens then will have straight lines for you to follow... this was my main thought here as your try looks rumply^^
and using embossed PC for rivtes... an abomination!!! better use flat... then this effect will not happen again... you can also start with cardboard rivtes... on that scale it probably wont matter material wise but you need then superglue...which might cause other problems...
and i had to look up the race of yon doggies as i confused them with these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Spitz
a bit understandable^^
but as you stated their sizes i see why this is not to be confused^^
and hopefully both are well behaved... my kids are^^... somehow touching dads stuff on the desk is a sakrelig they wont commit... and believe it or not i never told them off... i never needed to...lucky me^^
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Post by: leohart
I love those terrain pieces. Especially the eagle marble facade. Lovely work. Does that mean you have a table at home that you play with friends?
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leohart wrote:I love those terrain pieces. Especially the eagle marble facade. Lovely work. Does that mean you have a table at home that you play with friends?
Thanks Leo, it was pretty easy to do and worked well for a first attempt, i'd do it slightly different next time but I'm pleased with it so i won't bother re doing it  and do I have a table? well, sort of  I bought a Realm of Battle board and I started it earlier this year but I've had to put it away until the weather fines up in my neck of the woods, it's got the majority of the base colouring done but I've been inspired by local dirt hills and now want to create a landscape that resembles my own lacale!  then it shall be filled with cool terrain and then i start on a cities of death board
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Just wanted to bounce an idea or two off your heads guys,
as i'm terraining it up at the moment while i'm not in a painty mood I want to create an industrial zone for my board, the theme being that there's a xenos biology lab hidden amongst the factories and due to the warzone it's been revealed! omg!
so what other smaller industrial things can i build to represent the part of the city? pipes? vents? smelters? and any ideas on how they could/should look i'd be grateful?
my mind is ticking.... onto my days off tomorrow! :-)
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Big tubes with beasties floating side them. Clear tube, liquid resin and gribblies agogo!
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How do I do clear resin? or tinted resin! never used the stuff before but i have got 5 clear bio tanks on the way from RFM mini's ;-)
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hmmm... you could do a crane maybe? for more interesting terrain ideas?
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Crane sounds good too Vik, something different and a good oportunity for me to add bunches of rivets on something and make you guys proud I'm hanging around! lol :-)
so can anyone point me in the direction or tell me what i need to fill my clear bio tubes with resin? they're only fairly small so i don't need much, i'm thinking now to tint the resin a bit to make it visable in the tubes and give it a look like there's an agent in the liquid preserving them!
this is them:
http://www.rafm.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RAF&Category_Code=SCEN
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
why not go the simple road and fill it with watereffects?
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Yay  now it's my turn to be critical instead of Vik lol  ...... No freakin' way man, that'd cost me as much as my battle board lol! plus it'd never dry and would just look like test tubes full of semen samples....
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LOL...i didn´t knew it wouldn´t dry....lol...
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well now you know..... see, you learn something new every day! and now every time you hear the words 'water effects' you most likely will giggle! :-)
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
er... yes i think so... you kind of ruined the watereffects now for me
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Post by: inmygravenimage
 PVA maybe? You can get hobby clear resin but yeah, it's pricey. Tbh though you could cheat - tinted tubes would be a neat way if you can figure out how to suspend yhe gribblies. If you add some dots of pva on the inside of the tube, and maybe mount it on a flying base within the tube, then it'll create the necessary illusion.
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Hmm, could work Graven, the bonus is the encases mini's are suspended from the top cap of the bio chambers so I could probably dot some pva on the inside to look like bubbles when it dries? then tint the plastic somehow? even though the idea is proving tricky I'm loving the 'out of the square' thinking we have to do to figure it out :-) just means whatever works will help someone else down the track! I might go find some similar plastic and 'speriment' on it!
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Oh so much cool stuff in here. I should check out this painting log really more often. Tons of creative ideas to nick.  (Or to scratch my head about how you did it) Hellbrute is the bestone I've seen so far. The veins really are good stuff on there. Marble effect on the Aquila is top notch as well. The fountain looks really neat. The effect on the water isn't exactly what I envisioned judging from the pictures HOWEVER it looks really good. Got a very artistic feel to it. The statue looks neat too. I like how you made it look a bit less sharp (in terms of details) and kind of corroded looking. Sometimes 28mm statues look a bit off due to them being repainted regular minis standing next to their colleagues, looking the same, just in bronze. Not a problem with this one though.
I'll pay a visit more frequently I think. Mostly because I'm eager to see how the stained glass works out.
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Hey sigur  I really am glad you're back around Dakka! and glad you dropped back into the 'ol painting blog  I've been toying around with a few things just to keep myself in the hobby state of mind while my painting mojo is lacking!  and the strange thing is I'm actually enjoying it, the waste pit I wanted to make look oily in the beginning and as I worked on it i thought i'd try and give it a bit of a futuristic feel and make it look like liquid mercury with an oil sheen
And I truly feel humbled you like the Hellbrute so much  I tried a new technique different than that i'm used to as i am working on it for a friend and it doesn't need to tie in with my force, still more to do on him and after your praise he may get some brushwork tomorrow now!
Ah the statue  I didn't want to go down the painted standard mini path and originally looked for a 54mm scale inquisitor or something similar but couldn't find anything I liked so I searched for doll house statues etc. and found her and she's great!  and the effect was a lucky accident! i didn't have any Hawk turquoise so i studied the effect on real statues and tried to copy the look with what i had, turned out happily better than i hoped!
stained glass! oh man, seriously I am excited to do that! I have wanted to do it since seeing the old old old ruined 40K chapel with the stained glass in it years ago! I now have nearly all i need to finish them but my father (who owns a printing and advertising agency) is using his good press to print them out for me but he's in thailand until next week and up until he left the press was flat out and he couldn't re set it before he left!  bugger! but soon he'll be back and i shall have them in my hands! and hopefully a new avatar!
if you have any questions about how I did anything i'm more than happy to add any hints to your already prodigious painting skills Siggy!
look forward to seeing you hang out with us madcap loonies here!
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nerdfest09 wrote:looks like some research is in order then! :-) I do love a good challenge! .... heck i love a bad challenge....... strangely it was always the bad challenges that got me into trouble! like trying to ride an upright piano down a VERY steep street! and getting caught by the homeowner! Ah the good 'ol days!
OMG, how badly out of tune was it when you were done?? LOL
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dsteingass wrote: nerdfest09 wrote:looks like some research is in order then! :-) I do love a good challenge! .... heck i love a bad challenge....... strangely it was always the bad challenges that got me into trouble! like trying to ride an upright piano down a VERY steep street! and getting caught by the homeowner! Ah the good 'ol days!
OMG, how badly out of tune was it when you were done?? LOL
Luckily we didn't make it very far  hence how we got caught! I don't believe it was tuned in the first place so it might have sounded better after we hijacked it lol! that's what you get for drinking a challenge of a jar of pickle juice mixed with pineapple and Vodka
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I haven't checked this blog in a long while... a much too long while! Everything is looking incredible as always, I love the hellbrute and the red speeders and that Lord (and your amazing bathtub!)..... Grand work as always Nerd!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Some hobby stores do this clear resin that comes in little blobs. You melt them in the cup and pour it onto whatever you want. As for tinting it you might need to tint the tube itself.
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just a thought on filling the Bio chambers, since they're only quite small being 28mm scale, perhaps i could use a thicker clear substance to fill them, perhaps like clear silicone from a caulking gun? I could perhaps squeeze some out to tint it and then put it in? and that way it'll only cost me $3- scratch that i have some in the shed :-)
do you think this idea is plausible?
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Post by: SagesStone
Only one way to find out I suppose and if they don't work out I guess you can either toss them or repurpose them. Just make spares, could even be empty ones.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
could work... could work... and staying cheap IS a major point!!!
and testing is essential!!!
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Post by: GreyDeathOne
Hey NF09 if Liquitex is available you can try the gloss super heavy gel or gloss gel medium. The super heavy looks white but does dry clear in several days. I use these for water effects cause you can use a brush or Popsicle stick to make waves, the super heavy is great for that.
Also if there is a scale model train store they have a larger bottle of water effects which is cheaper then our hobby ones from GW and Vallejo.
But if you do use caulking make sure it says it dries super clear, this also will be foggy for couple hours or days. Scale modeler been using them for years and they just add inks to tint it. Let me know if it works out.
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I dunno, Ill say maybe? The only problem I have, is as thick as the silicone would be, it might not dry completely. If it does though, its going to take a good week Id bet. Test it out on/in something else beforehand?!
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Couple of things guys, firstly I went and ransacked my garden shed for silicone! but couldn't find any :-( but i did find something even better!! it's still silicone product but as it says on the tube 'Dries 19x clearer than silicone' woo hoo sounds perfect for me! :-) hopefully the bio tubes arrive this week then i can do them quickly!
secondly I got a new TATTOOOOOO! :-) and I'm stoked with it, he did a great freehand job of a Pinup girl based on my beautiful Nerdwench, one sit 2.5 hours, only got one shot of the main image but he also did more on the other side leading out from my last ink, I'll get some more pics and pop them up over the next day or 2!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
nice inks mister! one of these days i think i will get me a tat too...
and we do look forward to that picture update you are continuisly promising
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Now that is a nice tattoo mate
But the real question is, can you make her dance?
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Viktor von Domm wrote:nice inks mister! one of these days i think i will get me a tat too...
and we do look forward to that picture update you are continuisly promising 
Ah yes, picture updates..... ummm,......soon? I have some buildings that are just finished building and got a supply drop from a couple of places so i'll tease you with some pics tomorrow  and i have a kind of test I want to do for myself  you know how i like to preach about doing quick paint jobs good for tt quality right? well, i have a model of a DKoK Commissar and i was hoping I could do a kinda live paintjob? sit down and paint him in one hour from start to finish and then post up the result! I can skype someone at the start to confirm the newness of the model etc. and then challenge myself to do a cool and decent job to get me back into the swing of painting again? anyone want to come onboard and encourage me? (please) I was hoping to paint him up on monday morning my time  then i suppose i'll finally finish my speeders and perhaps my Sternguard? we'll see how easy my brush behaves for me! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh yeah I also saw DREDD yesterday! Oh....My....God! what an excellent movie for it's genre! it was exactly as i imagines Mega City1 to be! and Dredd was spot on! not to mention the bloody gorefest that invaded my eyes with glorious abandon, very cool!
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Commissars are badass looking and one of my fav minis ever. Good luck on the paint job there Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and I can kick ya in the teeth for encouragement! I can be a real good motivator when I needs ta be
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Post by: Nemesor
Hmm nerd are you from new Zealand or Australia? by any chance?
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Post by: finnan
Dredd indeed rocked... and the soundtrack is awesome too. I kinda liked the vision of MC1, but I wanted it to be more chaotically designed - as a 2000AD fanboy from my youth, I know what MC1 looks like!
However, I did totally spaz out when I saw the Chopper graffiti, and I am praying that they do the Chopper story lines as the movie series - would love to see Oz! >geeks out just a little bit more<
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Looking bulky  For the crane I would raid poundstores (or your heathenish foreign equivalent) for cheap kids construction toys.
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Post by: Sigur
Mmh, very nice stuff there! I may have to pay these good fellas a visit too some time to score some conversion bitz!
(Damn you for tempting me again to buy new toys! Since I did this silly pledge not to get anything new not a single day passes that I wouldn't get tempted to buy something.  )
I got one of those Administratum kits too. Fun stuff to play around with. Not sure if it's too suited for my own gaming due to consisting mainly of holes but it's nice to have around for army shots and whatnot.
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Since it's been ages since I painted anything I wanted to test myself with a little project today  I had model of the DKoK Commissar and I attempted to paint him in only 1hr! I took a pic of him at the start and was on Skype with Vel'cona to confirm the attempt was legit
the start:
and then after an hour of frantic painting I ended up with this result:


Love to know what you think?  I'll finish him later this week I reckon but I don't think he's bad for such a fast session!
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Post by: Gitsplitta
I see a mold line on his cloak...
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Always the naysayer Gits
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Gee thanks Gits  don't sweat I didn't see it until painting and my timer had started already so i couldn't stop and fix it but i can now fix it and finish him off to a level i'm happy with
also got a parcel with my Bio chambers in it  here's a couple of pics with my Commi as scale:

gonna paint them and add the fluid tomorrow as well as start some more buildings!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Commisar looks cool, but his base needs work.
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Post by: KingCracker
You lot are awfully picky for a 1 hour paint job. I think that looks really impressive, specially for an hour. So now that youve challenged yourself, finisher off and make that Commissar look how that commissar should look. And Ill be picky, because thats easily my fav Commissar mini ever made.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Actually, I think the figure looks great Damo... but an obvious mold line, especially a big one... just draws too much attention away from the fine work you've done on the rest of the fig.
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Post by: Dr H
That is awesome work for an hour. Well done.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
KingCracker wrote:You lot are awfully picky for a 1 hour paint job. I think that looks really impressive, specially for an hour. So now that youve challenged yourself, finisher off and make that Commissar look how that commissar should look. And Ill be picky, because thats easily my fav Commissar mini ever made.
couldn´t agree more...
and that good looking mini really puts my works to shame...how can you do that amount of detail and quality in such a small time frame???
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Thanks guys, I'll amend the line and finish him off to show you  I can tell you 60 minutes is NOT long when you paint  I took 34 minutes just to lay down all the base colours even with a limited palette! which didn't give me long for highlighting and details, I reckon another hour should see him done, I'd love to see anyone else have a go at an hour job? it's a suprisingly fun and testing thing to do!
I probably won't get a huge amount done today as i woke at 4:30am with a migraine  I'm dosed to the eyeballs and about to go back to bed for a while, lucky I set up all my airbrush and silicone and paints in the shed ready to go for when i get a chance.
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Yea no way. I would run out of time way to quickly. I like to have my paints dry when adding layers and such. MAybe on a SpaceMarine though, I could try blending all the colors while its still wet
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KingCracker wrote:Yea no way. I would run out of time way to quickly. I like to have my paints dry when adding layers and such. MAybe on a SpaceMarine though, I could try blending all the colors while its still wet
 otherwise known as wet blending KC! and that's the perfect reason to have a crack at it! look at how good your Grotnob looks when you pushed for the comp! come on be a man and have a crack! Automatically Appended Next Post: Woke up this afternoon and started some buildings etc.  my head feels much better now and I'm looking forward to the morning so I can start my Bio chambers.
I wanted to mix the colours on my buildings up a bit but still keep them cohesive on the table so i wanted to make the manufactorum red to represent the usual colour you see when referencing them
and the door, this is the before and after with some weathering  I used the usual liquid mask technique I like so far.

And now my big 'ol administratum building  I wasn't sure how to represent this one, it needed to be upper class but practical so I picked a dark blue accented with Vallejo air rust on the doors and windows, and i really like the beginnings of this one, i think it'll look great with some more work!

While i had the airbrush out i started my craters too, nothing too exciting yet and they're a tad shiny but after some more paint i reckon they'll pull through

and lastly the beginning of my mate Mitchy's Iron Warriors warband! this is the force i painted the Helbrute for and now i'm teaching him a quick way to do these guys  I will keep them easy to reproduce and hopefully still an attractive force, to begin he assembled them all as a learning curve and bought them out for me to work on, i undercoated them all with Plate Metal primer from the army painter then once dry I used the airbrush to pretty liberally soak them in soft body wash so it ran from the high edges and darkened the panels nicely, then I airbrushed some brown along the tracks and lower parts of the tanks and it looks pretty good so far



Righto, not bad for wasting half the day eh!  more tomorrow, comments and feedback welcome!
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Did some Bio chambers today  I like how they turned out, not as I expected but i'm still happy with them, the silicone dried very fast and kind of clumped in large jelly like crystals so I had to kind of pick bits up and push them into the cylinders it may have had something to do with mixing green ink into it but I'm not sure? I like the results though, the greenish tint looks good and as the silicone was kind of rough it looks like the chambers have unsettled liquids inside  one has a submerged lady in it ( DE maybe?) and another has a large brain in it (Tyranid maybe?)
I plan on detailing the chamber tops and bottoms a bit more once I glue the tops on properly and then planning my dissection chamber


What do you think so far?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Top notch my friend... those look great! I think your issue with the silicone was quite serendipitous.
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Post by: GreyDeathOne
Looking good NF09! The bio chambers look good and the buildings looking great too keep up the great work.
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Post by: Bossasaurus
They almost look like they are packed in ice, and it has that nice formaldehyde colour.
Great painting overall. I very much enjoy the necron conversions, very evil dead.
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I was quite pleased at the colour when I mixed it up but not so happy with it being so damn hard to work with! if you've ever used P#$* Off to keep cats off your garden it's like the jelly version in the tub, and so sticky, I had visions of it being quite liquid but it was like trying to get semi set jelly into a hole the size of a paint pot opening! I wonder if it will settle into itself later on?
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Post by: Knightley
Ooh, that looks amazing, like tanks filled with gunge!
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Post by: inmygravenimage
Oh, I love them - they're so... so... ICKY!
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I have two questions for you today  one is quite exciting for me and will need a bit of help to do so i'm trying to get as much positive force as possible  and the other is just a little shorty, I'll start with the latter
with my Bio chambers should i perhaps add a few drops of red or blue or purple onto the tops of a couple of them (the tops aren't glued yet) just to make a little difference? it will kind of run around the jelly substance and might look suitably grim dark-ish or it might look crap? thoughts?
second question,  now this has been running through the 'ol noggin' for a few days now and the more I think about it the more i get pumped about it! in my backyard of Nerdington Manor I have a metal shed about the size of a small bedroom and up the side of the house i have an area unused about 1.5 mtrs roughly wide that runs the length of my fence, can you see where this is going?
I had a little chat to the rather beautiful and understanding Nerd Wench and she was all for me turning my shed into A DEDICATED NERD ROOM! omg! so excited!  so I now need to research a few things, how best to insulate without losing too much room and then to line with plaster and add carpet etc as well as solar lighting so i have some power etc, do i use a solar panel charging a car battery? how's the best way? without running direct lines of course. I can't wait to get it going! I am going to paint a mural 40K themed on the walls using my airbrush (I may need another one for larger areas though?) and then frame a bunch of large space marine prints to add to the walls and set up my realm of Battle board on a custom table and various shelves for storage etc. then lastly when i get my roof re sprayed on my home I plan to get them to spray the shed to match in a nice gunmetal grey colour!
so, has anyone else done something similar? i'll be working on it with my mates to keep cost down
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Keep in mind... red and green make brown. Don't want to make your bio chambers look like porta-potties.
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Post by: Dr H
To start with; I can't help you with the shed conversion, but good luck with that.
As for your Bio-chambers; they look good, kinda like they're churning. Another colour could work to add to that effect If they are packed in quite tight, or it could end up highlighting the blocks of silicone and the gaps between them if they are not.
One thing I would ask, was the silicone you used made up with a powder and water? If so, could you make up some more but with a greater quantity of water, then it might not set as quickly and (and this is my point) if you make it runny enough, you could pour it into your tubes, it would fill the gaps you have there and would set to give you a clear tube. You could use the same colour or use a different colour and it would then look all swirly.
But, none of this may work and I would suggest testing it out on just the one tube. If it didn't work out, do you think you could get the silicone out of the tube once it had set?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Testing it is a great idea... but I wouldn't use one of your tubes. Come up with something disposable that you can use as your subject. Also keep in mind that if the liquid is churning... you're unlikely to have more than one color as they'd blend almost instantaneously .
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^ That would be preferable. Good call Gits.
That would depend on how quickly the liquid is churning, how viscous the liquids are, and how miscible they are...
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Post by: KingCracker
Those chambers look great!
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I'd have to agree, it worked out pretty nicely. Was surprised when I noticed that you brought some rather than making them yourself.
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Sometimes it's just easier to buy some cool stuff instead of banging my head against a wall trying to make something I really wanted :-) I like 'em, well worth it I think!
I may have news on the shed transformation tomorrow too? I have my best mates younger bro coming over and he's a trainee builder so what better place to hone his skills than turning my shed into a bunker! i'll let you know how it progresses!
went fossicking through the never ending bitz box yesterday again! and discovered a spare 10man tac squad, 5 mixed loadout terminators or could be assembled as CC as well as 5 robed DA vets and a 5man jp sqaud! what on earth should i do? I really don't need 'em for my Flesh Eaters army but I'm not 100% sure i want the pressure of starting another force? but if any of it pricks your ears up i'd probably be happy to swap for some different forces models etc. Automatically Appended Next Post: If I was to, lets say, get inspired to paint a force of Legion of the Damned for some bizarre reason, what would be a good choice to base the rules on? any advice would or could sway me to start? I can envisiage lots of older mk armour to represent the ancient-ness of them! anyone got a good army list i can work to? perhaps a chaos one? for something different! :-)
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Oh damn, i forgot you were lurking around lol :-) Minotaurs eh? you mean using my gold method? that would be good but then i'd have to buy the imperial armor books and the models from forgeworld and work out a list.......
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Post by: GiraffeX
Those chambers look fantastic NF09.
Cant really help with the bunker but it sounds like a great idea, make sure you make it nice and secure though wouldnt want any of your stuff to go wondering off.
For the Legion of the Damned I'd say stay with the Marine codex and use Vulkan to get the most out of your melta and flamer weapons.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hey nerdy... those chambers look wicked... and i wouldn´t add a thing to them... keep them as is... perfect can only be ruined... so keep it perfect
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nerdfest09 wrote:Oh damn, i forgot you were lurking around lol :-) Minotaurs eh? you mean using my gold method? that would be good but then i'd have to buy the imperial armor books and the models from forgeworld and work out a list.......
Im just helping you spend your money Damopooh
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Oooh a Vulkan list for LoTD sounds good to me! anyone got a example of a troop heavy force to use? :-) now I must force my own hand to go to ebay and buy up on a bunch of bitz!
and KC I'll paint you up a Minotaur for you as a gift mate and send him to you :-) do you want him helmeted or bare headed?
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This is 40k land Duder, helmetless and preferably screaming
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Make sure it's a bald head.
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Oh easy I think i have one already painted I can use for him! :-) should be a fun break for me if i need it! I'm going to now go and start something else on the table! i'll update this arvo it may be bleak and black and have flames and be a silent hero in the grim dark!
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All this talk of painting put me in the mood again today. So I started work on my Ork boy that gets gak done. In a kill team match he killed a terminator Sgt AND his buddy afterwards. Then in a game a few weeks ago, was the last Ork standing and killed off a SM Sgt and some random Tactical before going down
You have that effect on my Damo
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Great painting nerd! I haven't seen those sprues on the left.
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LoTD look great Damo. Nicely done!
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Very good. I particularly like the flames.
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Ive always had an idea of making a cool Legion of the Damned squad in a similar fashion, but I was going to take it a step further. I wanted to hollow out sections of the armor, and then gouge battle damage out in random spots so you could see all the way through, and then add skeleton bits, obviously legs bits in the legs, arms bits in the arms, ribs in the chest piece. I think that would look pretty damned epic!
And your flame jobs look pretty awesome to boot
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^That is a cool idea KC
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Awesome LotD!
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Great job! Love the flames! They remind me of a squad of Ghost Riders... Vengence!! Where did you get the skulls?
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Thanks. It evolved from the same idea I had for making Thousand Sons but add in "dust piles" from where the armor is blown out. But I swapped it to Legion of the Damned because flames wins over dust anyday
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Post by: lipsdapips
Woah, that's awsome, I can imagine a whole army of these long lost still active sick looking dudes, great work!
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They are looking fantastic NF09, I love how you've done the flames.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
i have to chime in with the rest of the pack... awesome painting there nerdy! the flames look delicious!
and KC... you have to do at least a small 5 man squad as described....that would be mind blowing!!!
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Duuuudes! thanks heaps! :-) they are looking pretty much how i wanted them to at this stage! and the funny thing is I had the same idea as KC!!!! but I'm waiting for a box of wargames skeletons to get here from England! I will have a go at it and post some progress as usual!
the skulls I obtained off ebay for a couple of bucks, you can either get ones like i used or some without lower jaws and even the Mantic ones I used for the old Necrons i started would work a treat, I plan on adding some blasted helmets showing the grinning visage through the cracks :-)
if i can get someone to help me work out a list for them i'll pursue the idea to it's full extent, yep, honest! I want to use my idea for the force commander, think Ghostrider cross with Queek headtaker and various other coolness!
:-)
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Sounds very cool, you could do a dread as well with out the sarcophagus front on to show his bony bits.....
I will have a think about a list, what sort of points value are you aiming for?
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No idear who Queek is, but Im excited about this! Automatically Appended Next Post:
Are you going to make "ghostrider" pissing flames?!?!
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List wise a small force mainly troop and dreads with some termies, about 1500points would be hella fun to build like this :-) nothing too serious just a cool little force to play with for something different (for me actually playing a game would be different!)
And no KC i'm not going to do a ghostrider pissing flames lol! surely you know who Queek Headtaker is from warhammer fantasy? it's more the pose is inspiring me rather than a giant man rat!
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Post by: SagesStone
Those skulls make them look so happy.
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Post by: Two Spartan
Nice work NF, those biochambers look rad! Also whatever you have there from russia looks like fun =D
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Well, you'd be happy too if you could exact the Emperors justice when you are sort of...dead!
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I do not, no. The extent of my knowledge of Fantasy is...they use bows....I think
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Looking good buddy. TBH, when I saw the start of the build - just skulls - I wasn't sold, but you've totally convinced me with the final job. Grand!
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Fething epica! Love you man!
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As usual, greetings my friends and i'm pleased you like the LoTD marines so far  tomorrow I reckon I should have them finished
Today I thought i'd have a look at those unfamiliar sprues that Dave pointed out a few posts above  I bought them from ebay at the huge cost of $3.00 each  they just clip together but I built one and glued it to see what it's like, it looks like i can use a few sets to make longer and bigger buildings both ruined and whole! I can see myself obtaining a few more sets soon! would be interesting to create a board based on a pre fabbed settlement like what i imagine some of the settings in the Ultramarines novels look like
here's a couple of images to show you the scale etc. with one of my newest undead friends!

catch ya tomorrow!
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They have ghost guns.
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Yes, yes they do at the moment have ghost guns! not for too much longer though :-)
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Hey hey. I really like those LotD minis you made there. Great thing about skulls with their jaws open is that they always look so happy.
Ruins look great as well. I might have to check those out.
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Neat! For $3 each you can't go wrong! You could do an entire ruined city board with those.
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Yep, and here's more from the kits i got  I managed to make these other ones as well, not bad for an investment of about $12.00  I can totally see a board done like a low settlement of villagers, and the bonus is I can do what i want to them as far as adding graffiti and pro Emperor slogans to make it look 'slummy' for something different
they just clip together with little plastic clips so you can if you want re make them to be any size, i have chosen to run a bead of plastic glue down the gaps to make them a bit stronger for gaming  even though the parts are all similar you can get a decent look without making it look too cookie cutter.
These are the other 4 ruins I built:
and here's a pic of all I made from just 4 kits at a cost of $12-
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Sorry NF09 I've not had much time for thinking of a possible list for your LotD.
It's on my list of things to do
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Post by: KingCracker
Thats a lot of terrain for $12. What did you search for on Ebay to discover these beauties?
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Hey GiraffeX no rush mate :-) it's gonna be a long journey if it eventuates! it'll probably turn into a squad or 2 of marines, some termies and a rhino or tank until I get bored and go back to my FleshEaters! then I'll give them away or swap them for other bits lol! but don't let that stop you from listing for me! I may get truly flamewrought and go totally crazy with them!
And KC I was browsing 28mm terrain looking for some of the platformers kits and I went into someones other items who was selling some and I saw these so cheap, I think you can find them under scorched city 28mm ruins? if you don't find them i'll link ya mate! :-)
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Awesome Ill check er out
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Heaps of little bits done today!  a undercoat here, a highlighted armour there
firstly I finished the highlights on the LoTD marines, just a very thin application of fortress grey which blended in nicely with the shade of black after the washes, the first pic shows the 2 marines on the left without the highlight and the two on the right with the highlight that just tidies them up nice like!
and a couple of the finished armour shots with all of them
just bolters and bases i think? any other suggestions?
This is my first proper freehand banner work I've started  it's for a termie bearer for Kitch and I wanted to use it again as an excuse to push myself paint wise! the scroll needs a bit of work to even it up but the Sons of Orar symbol and basic layout i'm pleased with
Can you say manufactorum? ... manufra....manooofak.... ....manufaartorio.....
here's a pic
Airbrushed the buildings I built and I am pretty happy with them for a simple scheme  keep in mind they're just started and not finished yet.
Emperor Protect!
Comments? thoughts? pudding?
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Post by: Gitsplitta
The LoTD are looking fantastic NF. That last highlight really makes them pop nicely. Great job on those buildings too. Wow, $3 terrain has never looked so good!
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"Catch that vandal!!!!!!!"
Love the graffiti work
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"It was parked right there throne damn it".
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heh Stolen Rhino is way funnier then vandal joke. Good show
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Post by: MrMerlin
Fantastic work on those LotD, nerdfest. I love the skulls!
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Post by: Dr H
LotD look great.
For a simple airbrushing, those ruins look perfect. very realistic looking.
And really like the graffiti.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Only gripe on the lotd duders is the sprue tabs on the shoulder pads. Makes me sad. Still solid looking though.
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 Ah thanks guys, yeah for $3- each i'm pleased and will be pursuing a table filled ruined settlement  with lots of Graffiti! any other suitable slogans I can use? and I laughed at both the captions!  next i need to build some enforcers beating down on a citizen! with a can rolling away into the pool of paint (or is it blood  )
Ah WM360!  trust you to pick up on the tabs! I was really hoping no one would see! I just grabbed the pads from my bits and didn't pay any attention to them until painting and then i couldn't be assed fixing it! but now I have to!  i'll do it today so everyone's happy (including me!)
really don't know what else to do today  I want to sit down and read a book but i'm fresh outta novels! I might assemble and prime some more FleshEaters as i am slowly getting the bite to do more of my boyz again! (see what i did there) and I always have the 3 speeders to finish...... and 2 rhino's...... and razorback.......and Baal pred.......and predator.....and 10 termies....... and 20 marines
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When I first saw your graffiti I thought of this, so if you're after something to add...
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Post by: Casey's Law
I'm bloody glad to see that your blog is still going strong and packed full of awesome as always! It's been far too long since i've popped by.
I now demand that you teach me your marble-fu! Because it looks insane!
Anyway, i hope you are well!
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Hey those tanks look great! Ive been thinking about starting a random bits sale type deal next year to make some extra cash, and have been gathering ideas of things to make. And those panels you did up is an example of a perfect idea to do!
Also, love the propaganda posters. Ive seen that before and always thought it was a brilliant idea
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Pretty cool Nerdo. Nicely done.
Your propaganda needs weathering... it's much too clean looking compared to the buildings.
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Those tanks are great, they look as if they've been hit by the LotD bug.
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Nice work on the LotD and the skeletonified tankies. When does the paint hit?
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Cheers guys! :-) Gits, weathering is on the cards mate! had to wait for them to dry first and figure out how to do it? but don't worry it shall be done to blend in with the ruins! and paint shall hit the tanks soon! I'm just about to prime them and hit the bottom with some airbrush shading then pull the mask off for the chipping!
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I should be more patent... Nerdfest is wise...
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No, Nerdfest isn't wise, he just looks at tonnes of blogs and garners methods and inspiration from veterans  then gets ahead of himself and posts pics to tease everyone!
and on a side note, anyone want those LoTD I just did?
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They're beautiful Damo... but I'm workin' on my own! (well, eventually)
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New update is great! But i demand you answer my previous post!
Casey's Law wrote:I'm bloody glad to see that your blog is still going strong and packed full of awesome as always! It's been far too long since i've popped by.
I now demand that you teach me your marble-fu! Because it looks insane!
Anyway, i hope you are well! 
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Those look great Nerd! They look like they were painted like they are almost made of sandstone, it has a great texture to it. You might try covering a few of the clips here and there, randomly with your propaganda posters like you did or even pipes or conduits or other gubbins, just to break up the pattern of clips.
As for the railings, those posts on the sides of your walkways make them look nice and solid, but railings and stairs should fit right on the edges of the platforms easily, and I know I ran out of those posts when building my backdrop. I needed every last one to get my diorama 3.5 wall panels high. I found when doing test shots that 3 high wasn't enough to hide the top of the diorama from the camera frame. Of course, my plastruct railings aren't really fit for the rigors of gaming, very fragile, but they look good
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Thanks for dropping by Dave!  Ah! so your set is 3.5 large panels high? i was considering making a foamcore extender for the top to black it out so it's removable and not too high? not sure yet what i'll do there, do you have any ideas for the interior layout? I have 5 Bio chambers and i wish to add a disection table with some buzzy saws and knives and needles and things  but still have it be usable as terrain and look cool to boot!
plastruct are they hard to find? I am still interested in getting my hands on a catalog like you teased us with pages ago!  I believe it's 'O' scale I need for 28mm stuff? I need some more random parts like the railings as well as stairs and ladders and some girders or crane parts for my manufactorum!
I hadn't thought of pipes on the sandstone esque buildings! but as soon as i saw you type it i knew it needs to be done! and i'm glad they do look sandstone-ish I wanted them to be easy to reproduce quickly and appear as if they've been hewn from the surrounding rock! I also just bought another 6 of the kits to make some more buildings, I might make some longer ones this time and see how they look!
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Bullet holes, tears, burn marks. Maybe some patches of staining just to vary the surface color a bit.
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You've seen my photo diorama, it's based on a 1foot square base, and I have 1 foot square black PVC foam sheets behind it for stability and to hide any light from coming through the little cracks and such. Plastruct being a US company, you may have trouble getting them there in OZ, but www.megahobby.com and http://www.hobbylinc.com probably have international shipping. Hobbylinc has a Japan site too, maybe that would be a good place to start. O scale is what you want definitely. Some HO stuff can be used for details as long as there are no scalebusters.
As far as layout, that is really up to you. The reason behind my layout was to give me several camera angles with enough variations in background to photograph miniatures on the same set without it all looking too similar.
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@Dave: thanks again, 'O' scale I shall hunt down, I don't think my piece is anywhere big enough to have multiple shot angles for pics but it should suffice for finished images  i'll have a look see on those sites you mentioned and see what goodies I find!  as far as layout goes on the interior how should I set the actual laboratory up? you know, with the chambers and stuff for a good look? I've fiddled about with it but need a little input to make my decision
@Gits: yes, bullet holes are a must, i'm sure the enemy uses them as target practice  I'll start drilling today! and maybe adding some burn marks on the edges of the buildings which will hopefully cut over onto some posters to add character  you think that'd work for realism? I don't want to go too far and make them messy!
@Kid Kyoto: sorry mate I missed you earlier!  yep, the buildings look exactly like them! but didn't come with a box and i think they're a separate kit? but it's darn versatile and I was left with heaps of parts to canabalise for other things! I have seen them sold next to Syberclicks? not sure if they're the same manufacturer but I'm liking them at the moment! certainly cheaper than GW!
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I'd just set it up one way, take some test shots, then adjust, film is cheap for digital cameras
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Hey, this may sound strange and it's 'Nerd' related but not miniature related, I was given one of the early large gb PS3's and it appeared to get the yellow light of death and stop working, I can't seem to bring myself to throw it away! can anyone use it for parts or anything? I'm happy to send it to whoever needs it but it may be a couple of weeks as i've been pushed back at least 2 weeks on all my postage due to a little hospital trip and subsequent lack of funds :-( if it can't be salvaged let me know and i'll just chuck it in the rubbish :-)
cheers dudes!
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Yanno, you could probably get it fixed for less then the shipping to someones house. There is usually 3 problems with it when those crash like that.
1. A simple software crash. Think like when your PC just stops working for no reason and needs a reinstall.
2. A mechanical part that fails.
3. Something catastrophic
1 and 2 are usually pretty cheap fixes.
3 is obviously just a throw away.
9 times out of 10 its either 1 or 2 and should be a cheap fix. Theres a guy around here that fixes 1 and 2 for the price of the part broken if its #2 +30 bucks. So if its a software problem its only a $30 fix
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nerdfest09 wrote:Oh my lord!  sorry Casey! yes, yes of course i can tutor you in the ways or Marble-Fu
Firstly I painted the eagle dheneb stone/bleached bone and let it dry, then I got a sort brush and just painted pure water over the whole lot so when I washed with gryphone sepia (if i recall correctly) lightly it left a watercolour effect as a base for the veins, next I made slightly darker passes in roughly diagonal lines and then switched to a finer brush and started painting the veins making them darker in places, once dry I washed the whole thing again with a light watered down gryphone wash making it darker at the edges and then when it was dry again I got some very watered bleached bone and added some random passes to tone down the marble and make it appear like some of the veins are deeper, then finally a coat or 2 of gloss varnish
I can link you the tutes i used for inspiration if you wish? but if you check out the pics of it when you attempt it you shouldn't go wrong!  or i can but the honored imperium set and do a step by step on the ruined eagle in the set?
Thank you very much for writing that up! I'm most likely be going to use a marble finish on my Marines and their tanks but i was going in blind until now! Haha, no need to buy a kit just to do a tutorial for little old me, just keep your great updates flooding in.
One question: When you apply the Gryphonne Sepia onto the slightly wet surface do you put it on in dabs and let it run or just paint it all over lightly and let it clump together a bit?
Thanks again!
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Nice one! I really like the shells and sandbags they look like a good scale to me.
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Yeah, they look right anyway.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Can you link me those sandbags Damo? Been looking for just that, and cant find them, even knowing they are Pegasus games.
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whalemusic360 wrote:Can you link me those sandbags Damo? Been looking for just that, and cant find them, even knowing they are Pegasus games.
No problem my friend!  you get about 100 in a bag! heaps to use in various things! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PACK-100-individual-SANDBAGS-painted-Wargames-scenery-terrain-28mm-/400336983959?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item5d35f19797
and thanks nOt_u as long as they don't look too far out of proportion that's a good thing!  I should've made them a tad higher though i think?
Casey, found an old base I was building for one of my buildings and i'll do you a step by step tomorrow and post it up on my blog for you to check out, any questions or specific things you want me to focus on for you?
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Marble-Fu comes to Nerd town!  I re visited my marble technique and had an excuse to attempt a better version of it!  and i believe it worked quite well! luckily I took pics as i went (a lot of pics) and have compiled them into a step by step of how i went about doing it, I feel it looks better than my first attempt on the shrine but I won't be re doing that terrain as i still think it holds up well enough
anyway here's how i began.....
First and most importantly you need to brew yourself up a mug of hot black coffee!  then get your tools ready, a soft watercolour brush, clean water and the first ink.

here's the test subject, primed white as a base, and brushed all over with clean water to help the ink flow over it smoothly.

water the sepia down a bit and brush over the board in roughly diagonal lines a bit hap hazard still keeping the shade light, then add a small amount more of sepia and follow the lines you just did making it darker on some edges, the ink should still be translucent and fade well into each other.
 
now i start to work with pure sepia and add dots in the veins where they branch off from one another and just blend them into the previous step.
 
now we need to darken the marble veins by using a small amount of snakebite leather mixed with sepia  this is where the fun starts! make your lines thin and random like lightning bolts, keep the veins long and not too busy with branches etc. this is where i went wrong last time, working on such small scales I wasn't seeing the whole model from a distance, this time i ran the veins over a few tiles and faded them off better.

now a teeny tiny amount of black with the mix, again thin lines focusing on the deeper veins and thin lines. then a teeny bit more black and just did the joins.

now with some watered down bleached bone I washed the whole thing again to soften the effect. make sure it's dry thoroughly first

now it's finished all bar the gloss coat, let it dry and it looks like the first pic, then I used 'Ardcoat to gloss it

and now some 'Cinematic' shots of it with the building
 
And ho! what's this?  is it.....?..... no, it can't be!......... can it?.......yes, why i think it is!...... some actual FleshEaters painting!  I had to do something or i'd be afraid i'd lose my mojo for good! so it's tank time! first pic is a couple of stages then the others are full highlight of the armour on the tank and am just about to wash it with ink
 
and the gunners bare head I started, not much actual skin to shade though but he'll be sweet I hope!
Phew, that's today done! love to see what you all think so far!  remember, keep your brush moist people!
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nerdfest09 wrote:Casey, found an old base I was building for one of my buildings and i'll do you a step by step tomorrow and post it up on my blog for you to check out, any questions or specific things you want me to focus on for you?
Yay!
That was really great, thanks for going to all that trouble, mate! It's a brilliant effect and that tutorial is going to make it nice and easy to replicate i'm sure!
I'll do my best with it and pm you when i'm done, It'll be January at the soonest though.
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That's a major update Nerdo. Great tutorial. I've struggled with marble in the past myself so I really appreciate the detail of your approach. That tank is looking spectacular. Amazing combo of techniques on it. How are your doing your highlighting? I love the way it fades off the corners.
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Thanks guys  it means a lot to me that someone's going to try my method  I hope it works well for you! I can wait until whenever you get a chance but i demand a pictorial update when you do!  I'd like to experiment with other colours now to see what happens!
and master Gits, I think i have finally secured my 'style' now, I know how to approach any model or colour in my own unique way which is really nice  because I used to HATE painting tanks or large models! now after today I'm actually excited about finishing all my vehicles!  to do my highlights I did it the same way as my marines, same colours and method just a little tweaking, I based with red then airbrushed the shade on the hull, then blood red along the edges on all the top parts then mixed in orange and then vomit brown up to pure brown but just made the lines shorter each time along so the last highlight is just on the sharp edges if that makes sense?  then i just washed the lot with crimson to tie it together  if you or anyone else wants me to do a step by step next tank i will happily oblige  it's easy as i only use 3 colours and a wash!
So, what's everyone else been painting? hopefully i'll finish the tank tomorrow and bust out a hammernator just for kicks!
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I think I've got it... really striking. Thanks.
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Post by: Dr H
Nice tutorial on the marble. I'll be giving that a go when I get the chance.
Highlighting on the tank looks great too.
Good job.
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Post by: Ovion
That's fantastic marble!
I really want to do some bases using this technique (though probably green-veined marble instead of brown)
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Nice tut, and that tank looks awesome so far. Kindda glowy!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Thanks for e link, I dun ordered 5 bags!
Marble is great, gunna have to give it a try, maybe mess with some other colors too.
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Brilliant! Anything changed this time round for the marble? It looks excellent as it did before.
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Same method as the big parts I did ;-) just..... smaller lol
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Wow! Very nice. I love the way the red on the pred shades darker as it nears the treads. The skeletons are a really nice tough, too. And The marble on the shield is ace.
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Thanks Mr Beard ;-) the fading was a happy accident from when i did my Landraider and i like the look which meant i didn't have to highlight every single panel and edge, and it still fits the look of my force! I still have a bunch of vehicles to finish! and tomorrow I hope to finish 3 land speeders for show!
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Wow. Those tanks look really good and the bones add to them nicely.
The head is good too.
Marble shield looks ace.
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Beautiful work on that pred Damo. So nice.
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My oldest brother has been playing Space Marines for like.....16 years? Maybe more. Anywho, yea hes got a terminator problem as well. Which I think is hilarious because Ive only ever played against 10 once, and he only really uses them 1 squad at a time  Yet he has like 30 terminators Automatically Appended Next Post: And agreed with Gits, that Pred is badass
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Wow, the marble effect on the shield is fantastic. Going to have to try me that technique - thanks for the tutorial and inspiration Automatically Appended Next Post: Edited for odd double post !
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Great look Nerd! You should try future floor wax sometime, it gives a nice gloss coat so the inks flow into the recesses too, that way you don't have to be in a hurry before the wayer dries. And I love the marbling too.
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Brilliant marble effects, nerd! I'm tempted to paint up some marble pillars myself using your technique, even though I don't have any use for them at all, lol!
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nerdfest09 wrote:Hey, question? do you ever feel you have just too many terminators  dunno how it happened but I set up some models to see how they'd look and somehow i've got nearly 30!
Same "problem" here mate : http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/406869.page
I solved that "problem" by playing them as Deathwing, using the Dark Angels codex. Pretty fun to play.
I definitely like the way you paint your marble, I think I have to try this someday.
The bones colour ornaments on the predator look damn good too. The pred himself looks good by the way, I would just add some smaller chipping besides the big ones you did, to have a more natural weathering.
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Marble tutorial then an awesome tank. It's like none of us can ever leave isn't it?
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My favourite part is all these pictures of a big fancy tank, then HEAD ON A STICK!
Keep up the good work though xD
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Predator is ace, Damo! That marble effect is insane on that shield. I liked it on the tiling, but on that shield?! Are you serious? Are you even the same NF09 we knew before?  Totally awesome stuff, bud.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Love me some terminators! I've got around 50, plus another 20 GK termis.
I think the tank could have used some smaller chips higher up, but I like it!
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I going on 30+ termies not including the 20 Paladins in my GKs! I never used more then 5 and that was only once.
Love the marble effect. You should put it in the Tutorial section so it will be easier to find later.
You got me going on Terrain, That all i've been thinking about. Now I have so Many Ideas, but I dont even have a table or space for terrain.
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Thank you all so much for your feedback!  really nice to read and made me feel all warm and fuzzy!  I have felt like i've done nothing lately and was worried i'd lose my motivation for 40k and painting! but the marble & Tank I did really perked me up and got me inspired again  I'm glad you all like the tute! I hope it was easy enough to follow  I think I may use the marble on all my storm shields from now on!
BUT!, after my inspiration rush that left me all keen to moisten the 'ol brush! I had to paint more!! so, finished my 3 speeders!
The FleshEaters marines send a Vanguard squadron to scout through a ruined imperial village on the outskirts of Evandalus Prime:
and now the speeders, 3 of them, 2 with assault cannons and one a Typhoon!  and one with a rather crack shot pilot!:



Hope you enjoy! took me 6 hours solid to finish them!  the last 2 hours took there toll and now i'm exhausted and have a headache! but it's all so, so worth it
Damo
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They look really great, dude!
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Evanda Prime looks like it's recent been vaccumed.
Beautiful work on those speeders Nerdy. Really stunning. The gold on the instrument package is both unexpected and very striking.
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Holy cow, youre setup is getting pretty high in the awesome category Damo. Not to mention, that LandSpeeder squadron looks the gak! Very dynamic. And did I mention I love Landspeeders? You did them justice
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 Cheers guys! I like the gold accent on them, just a little bit of spot colour which helps tie them all together  and gits, if only you knew how funny that comment you made was!  trust me, EVERYTHING in Evandalus Prime is always clean and vacuumed  I tend to have a slight ocd problem when it comes to cleaning and tidying my home, i simply cannot relax in an untidy house and as a result I vacuum the floor and couches every day as well as washing up and doing the laundry, dusting and general housework before I go to bed each morning so i can sleep fitfully throughout the day knowing the house is clean when i wake  I know it's sad but I've always been like it! probably why I don't mess up my models with too much weathering lol! Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh hi KC! good to see ya! :-) thanks dude! I love the speeders too, they are one of my favorite models too! best ones i did were the Sallie ones ages ago but these are up there in my own books! glad you like them! I must do an army shot update soon....
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An army shot is something I need to do as well  And yea, I left you a Skype message last week basically saying hi, in a KC kinda way  But yea, Speeders are badass models, if I ever did a NON GK army, Id probably spam speeders just because they look so cool. So cool infact, I made 2 Ork buggies from 2 defunked speeders.
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great models just some of the worst to assemble and paint! they take ages!! and sorry i missed ya on Skype, I haven't thought about it for a few days as i had a little trip to hospital last week due to getting Pneumonia and am still catching up on rest and relaxation, plus talking to you usually results in laughter so i may have an asthma attack and keel over on you!
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Ouch, the Giant had Pneumonia pretty bad last year, and ended up the hospital as well. That sucks! Worst part is, I wouldnt have a CLUE how to contact emergency services for ya if you did keel over.
American Emergency dispatcher: 911 whats your emgency?
KC: Erm.......a buddy of mine is dying I think
American Emergency dispatcher: OK Sir whats the location?
KC: Yeaaaaaaaaaa you know how to get to Tazzy?
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Post by: hdbbstephen
Brilliant work here, I am going to have to get my hands on some of that terrain and invest in an air brush...
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Post by: Gitsplitta
nerdfest09 wrote:  Cheers guys! I like the gold accent on them, just a little bit of spot colour which helps tie them all together  and gits, if only you knew how funny that comment you made was!  trust me, EVERYTHING in Evandalus Prime is always clean and vacuumed  I tend to have a slight ocd problem when it comes to cleaning and tidying my home, i simply cannot relax in an untidy house and as a result I vacuum the floor and couches every day as well as washing up and doing the laundry, dusting and general housework before I go to bed each morning so i can sleep fitfully throughout the day knowing the house is clean when i wake  I know it's sad but I've always been like it! probably why I don't mess up my models with too much weathering lol!
You don't have children... things will change if you ever have children. My house used to be impeccable. Not so much any more.
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Agreed, my kids can wreck this house in under 5 minutes
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Post by: nerdfest09
I do have kids! just big 'ol furry ones!  you haven't met my Big Willy yet have you? I should introduce you!  he is a new addition who may become a permanent part of my family  my other two get along well with him, Oscar and he are BFF's only problem is Willy likes to play in water! any water, water bowls, baths you name it  and if you've ever tried to dry a soaking Samoyed.......
Big Willy to the left!

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Post by: Flinty
Great work on the marble. Its a really nice way of doing it and seems acheiveable for all without wacky blending nonsense
Also I see where the dog inspiration came from now. Do they all have bolters?
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Post by: nerdfest09
Flinty wrote:Great work on the marble. Its a really nice way of doing it and seems acheiveable for all without wacky blending nonsense
Also I see where the dog inspiration came from now. Do they all have bolters? 
Thanks flinty  I'm actually pleased you said it seems easy enough to reproduce without heaps of advanced techniques, I tend to always preach about finding quick but good looking ways to paint things  and I researched marble methods for a while and some were very involved and confusing, this way I think anyone can do as long as they build it up as you go! I am going to do it on 2 marine statues from the honoured imperium kit  should look pretty wicked when I do them (have to buy them first  )
Ah yes, I guess you now know my inspiration for 'Dog with bolter and shorts' a seminal piece of artwork curators the world over have been squabbling to get  the Samoyeds both own Bolters while Oscar is the squads special weapons dog!  he prefers a flamer or melta!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
seeing your (white) dog now after all those redness beauties... disturbing!
the landspeeders lookk really good... the highlights are very good looking...goes to show... AB are one hell of a useful tool... also... gotta ask... that one gunner of these three has a really interesting helmet/visor... what did you do/use for that guy?
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Post by: Yggdrasil
Love those Flesh Tearers !
And the marble effect is incredible !!!
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Post by: SagesStone
I couldn't help but laugh at the sly/disinterested/bored look in the second picture.
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Post by: nerdfest09
@ nOt_u: ep, Big Willy is a damn cheeky boy and gets away with so much because he's such a suck up! that squidgy face and soulful eyes melts even the sternest of Nerdwench's even when he decides to 'dig' in their water bowl and then proceed to dig in the dirt!! have you ever seen a samoyed that looks more like top deck chocolate trying to push his way past you to run indoors??
@Yggs: thanks man!  glad you too like the marble! and my FleshEaters  i've found my marine passion now and I'll be sticking with the boys in red until i've at least got a company!
@ Vik: heyyyyy you're the first one to ask me about the head!  I was wondering who'd notice it first  and of course it was you!  they are from Puppetswar's bio mechanical heads set http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=18 it's the 'Robocop' looking one I used
Well, I have my plans for next week all organized paint wise!  I need to finish some Salamander Dev marines for a good mate of mine that have been neglected for a while and I am now getting the spark back for painting! so I'll do some on them and maybe lay some more paint on my Thunderhammer termie squad! Ooooh I can't wait
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Post by: Yggdrasil
I first wrote Flesh "Eaters" in my post, then thought I had misread your chapter's name, so corrected it to the canon Tearers... But actually, I was right !!
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Post by: Pyriel-
The speeders need some black areas to break up all the massive red.
The dogs look boring when they are all primed white, try different colours on them or do some quick drybrushing.
The baal pred is really cool but again, to big red mass, needs some black areas and there are big mold lines on the weapon.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Pyriel- wrote:The speeders need some black areas to break up all the massive red.
The dogs look boring when they are all primed white, try different colours on them or do some quick drybrushing.
The baal pred is really cool but again, to big red mass, needs some black areas and there are big mold lines on the weapon.

I love all the massive red  but if i'm going to be self critical i probably would have made the seats a lighter colour to stand out more and i would have painted the rear wall of the cockpit metallic as well, but never the less, I'm not going to worry too much, and the tank maybe could have had a bit of black on the two little hatches on the top but i think that was all it may have needed, I am trusting the bone panels draw the eye instead
the white primed dogs are only just assembled! I haven't thought of a scheme yet  but Big Willy has tried to paint himself brown in the backyard  looks like i need to strip him and try again! lol
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Post by: Elnibbus
Been away for a while (been swamped with uni work) but dang! This thread keeps getting better mate!
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Post by: nerdfest09
Elnibbus  thanks mate! don't be a stranger! hopefully I shall be back posting more regularly now and i still have a bunch of cool stuff waiting in the wings!
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Post by: Elnibbus
Awesome dude, I've been painting some of the Tiger tonight- I've gone over the original scheme by stippling the colours together. Now I'm applying hundreds of chips ALL OVER the thing just to go over it with AK Interactive washes of goodness... Will probably look gak but meh, here goes nothing!
Loving the tanks btw!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
[quote=nerdfest09 356350 5008289 b47370d81abfababac0ea0f14a0ca3ac.jpg@ Vik: heyyyyy you're the first one to ask me about the head!  I was wondering who'd notice it first  and of course it was you!  they are from Puppetswar's bio mechanical heads set http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=18 it's the 'Robocop' looking one I used
good looking heads....tho there is a slight cheaper way around that look...:
http://hephsforge.blogspot.de/2010/01/cyclops-pattern-helmets.html
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Post by: KingCracker
I love simple and easy ideas that make such a change to a mini. Nice find there Vik
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Post by: nerdfest09
Hell yeah that's a nifty little find! I love obtaining as many little ideas for simple additions!
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Post by: dsteingass
Absolutely gorgeous speeders and dogs! The thing about White-furred dogs, is that THEY have no clue they are white, and they really don't care either lol. Mud is just a way for them to LOVE you more!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hey nerdy... remember the tut about verdigris recently? well i put it down to good use today... unfortunatly as it is related to a secret project i am workiung on i am atm unable to show what i did... but i can prove that the addition of dheneb stone to a turquis paint gives a really splendid looking verdigris effect...
and i am glad to be of help/use... that link is saved for quite a long time now... i am glad it was still working ... not many of my older links worked as i´ve looked for that one...the web is in constant movement...
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Post by: SagesStone
I'm wondering, for your marble tutorial, how well do you think it'll hold up to other colours?
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Post by: nerdfest09
@ nOt_u: yep, I reckon it'll be fine with other colours mate :-) I will attempt another shade on a storm shield this week and post up on tuesday or wednesday if you like?
@ Vik: WooHooo, that's great! I can't wait for your secret project to come out in the open so i can see it! glad it worked well for you! I now am torn between painting space marine statues from the honoured imperium set in the verdegris or my new marble? AH, first world problems eh!
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Post by: SagesStone
Sure, maybe a dark colour or black. I was thinking of a more unusual colour like purple or pink as well, but I'm probably just better off experimenting with that by myself.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
@ Vik: WooHooo, that's great! I can't wait for your secret project to come out in the open so i can see it! glad it worked well for you! I now am torn between painting space marine statues from the honoured imperium set in the verdegris or my new marble? AH, first world problems eh!
LOL...
well i say verdigris... i think marble looks best on flater surfaces? but that might be the fun in the challenge then  balls back to you
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@ Vik: i'm leaning towards Verdegris on the statues and marble on the broken aquila's? but I really want to paint a marble statue! :-) although i don't want to fork out money for 3 kits! and i can't have my statues not matching! that's just crazy talk!!!
@ nOt_u: purple!!....pink!! :-) I can do green, black, red, purple, blue if you want me to try any of those?
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Post by: SagesStone
Green, black and purple then I guess.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Dude don't you sleep! lol :-) and yep i can have a crack at those for ya on tuesday or tomorrow if i get a chance!
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
well... are we really talking about the big statues of the kit? i thought you wanted to convert some marines to statues...
hmmm.... by the way... there are these sideshow marines models out there... i bet you can´t get them cheapo down under?
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Post by: nerdfest09
Viktor von Domm wrote:well... are we really talking about the big statues of the kit? i thought you wanted to convert some marines to statues...
hmmm.... by the way... there are these sideshow marines models out there... i bet you can´t get them cheapo down under?
Yep the big ones from the honored imperium kit  I can't find anything else I want to use  and what are 'sideshow' marines?
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Brother-Osrik-Space-Wolves-Sideshow-Collectibles-Warhammer-40K-No-2614-/290816683126?pt=Rollenspiele_Tabletops&hash=item43b6066c76
and i do realise now they are way too expensive to be painted as statues
there was this guy here at dakka that sculpted his statues and sells them even... maybe i find his thread again... Automatically Appended Next Post: here it is...maybe contacting might be useful?
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/450902.page
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Post by: nerdfest09
WOW, never seen the collectables before!  so cool! but just a tad expensive for painting over  maybe if I get a second job? Hmmmmm  and those ones in that thread are great! I'd love to know if he considered selling the standing statues? they'd be perfect for a lined shrine!
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Post by: SickSix
Glad I found this! I am going to borrow your skeleton+vehicle technique! Just looked up Wargames Factory and can't believe you can get 30 skeletons for so cheap! (no bases but I won't need those!)
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Post by: nerdfest09
Hey sicksick, I'm gonna do up my 2 rhino's with the skellies as well, and the box i got of them came with a bunch of square bases? they're easy to use as far as the skeletons go :-) just sand the back of the ribs down a bit so they fir flat against the hull and you're sweet! my next project using the skeleton theme (fits my army I think) is a big mean Storm Raven with the Chapterhouse studio Tru scale extension :-) Ooooh can't wait!
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They worked out nicely.
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Post by: Gitsplitta
Those look awesome Nerdy. I'm going to have to come up with an excuse to learn this as it's been something I've wanted to do for a long time now. The gold flecks (or any alt color) are a big improvement in my mind. Really make it jump. Bravo my friend. Excellent work!
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Post by: nerdfest09
Why thank you Mr Gitsplitta!  it's nice to have another feather in my painting cap so to speak! I can now confidently paint it and show anyone without hesitation which is a nice feeling!  you totally need to try it out mate  on anything, maybe a statue or floor inlay on a base? Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and i also found 2 unopened pots of Devlan mud if anyone needs them and has bitz for swapsies? :-)
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Post by: Styrofoam04
Thanks to your tutorial I keep looking for things to marble! But I can't find anything
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Post by: Knightley
Very tasty! that marbling effect is amazing.
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Post by: Viktor von Domm
hmmm..... at first i liked the black marble effect the best.... when you added the golden flecks i was totally sold on that...the brownish tho i think is the best so far... looks the most lifelike in my opinion...
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Man, that green is beautiful Damo. I think I have green-envy!
The windows look great. See if you can find a model railroading shop in your area... the MRRs make a number of stains designed to make wood look aged. I've got a number of them from my MRR days and they really work!
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Post by: Yellowbeard
I love the green on the Devs, Damo! Nice work.
The windows turned out nice, I think, but I particularly like the Heretic Mutant Xenos poster. Can't wait for the comic....
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Post by: Moltar
That green is stunning!
I really like the way the broken windows came out. Have you thought of adding a glaze of white or off-white to suggest age and grime built up? The weathering on the buildings just seems to yearn for weathering on the windows too.
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Post by: nerdfest09
Cheers guys! I will finish the Devs next week and send them off to Pyriel but not before taking more pictures of course! :-) it was strange as i painted them, for a while now I've wanted to do another force using older mk's of armour etc. and Mantis warriors kept creeping into my head! (Damn you Gits!)
Moltar, great idea about dirtying the windows up! I was unsure how to do it so it still looked good scale wise but a white wash could be the key, i'll have a crack when i find some stain that Gits suggested and do the boards, and if i can't find one then I'll just wing it ;-)
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Post by: KingCracker
Well gak on me....those broken windows look the gak man! Im gunna go ahead and stick that in the ol memory banks
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