Hanskrampf wrote: What the gak are they trying to prove with their Real-Life rules (pet, real flower, ...)?
This is just annoying.
They're trying to (war)hammer the point home that we're all too old for their games, I guess.
Ok. Considering the AoS debacle has finally gotten my group to open their minds regarding the wealth of massively better made games from smaller companies... I guess this really was what the hobby needed.
The unfortunate part is that 40k has fallen off around here. AoS was received so badly that it had a carry-over effect and has actively hurt 40k enthusiasm and turn-out.
So it looks like they doubled down on the stupid crap. Nice to know my armies would be at a distinct disadvantage because I don't like green.
Information is there in advance - looks like harmless fun to me - but then I have set up club games where King Kong fights Orks and a large multiplayer Dark Eldar arena game - they were not especially balanced but we all had fun - seems a larger version of this so would be happy to join in - IF everyone else there is looking for the same thing.
Its def not going to be for everyone but some will like it - some don't like hardcore tournament formats - which is at the other end of the scale......
So it looks like they doubled down on the stupid crap. Nice to know my armies would be at a distinct disadvantage because I don't like green.
Information is there in advance - looks like harmless fun to me - but then I have set up club games where King Kong fights Orks and a large multiplayer Dark Eldar arena game - they were not especially balanced but we all had fun - seems a larger version of this so would be happy to join in - IF everyone else there is looking for the same thing.
Its def not going to be for everyone but some will like it - some don't like hardcore tournament formats - which is at the other end of the scale......
What's more, as I mentioned on the page before, those rules are not the actual rules for playing in the various realms that are given in the AoS book.
Those are the rules that Warhammer World has added for if your faction "controls that realm", per what has been posted.
reds8n wrote: http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/2015/08/03/the-battle-for-the-realmgates-the-eight-realms/
might be an idea to set up a roadside flower stall near WW that weekend then.
,.. perhaps guards on the graveyards too in case someone gets a bit carried away.
Ah well, I guess that just confirms that is aimed at children and young teens.
It certainly will not attract the same crowd that WFB did, but there is a good chance it will be popular in its own right.
Charles Rampant wrote: That doesn't really look like GW's style of art to me, but then it is possible that they don't feel constrained to one art style?
Yeah, hard to tell since we haven't seen a new AOS book yet.
Charles Rampant wrote: That doesn't really look like GW's style of art to me, but then it is possible that they don't feel constrained to one art style?
It definitely is in a different (I think pretty interesting) style. If I was a betting man, I'd say it's fake though, but not because of te style of the art/painting, but rather the style of the overall graphic/book design. Doesn't have the polished look that GW has been honing with all its excessively priced, endlessly limited editions.
Man... 20 more bloodreavers. I already feel like im painting to many as is. I should have held out for the weapons option before I assembled the ones from the starter... stupid me.
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: Are both the Occulum and Dais available on general release? I was a bit miffed to find that the Baleful Realmgates (awful name) were direct only.
They are releasing a lot of stuff to retail stores for the first week, then it goes to the website.
One of these is going that way, i forget which.
Balefire may be back, on the website, they realize they screwed that one up. "Someone didn't think it would sell". My contempt for whoever at GW does their forecasting is always amazingly high. "We base our forecasts on this thing sort of like the thing we are selling, that sold 5 years ago, but was different and didn't tie into anything. "
While 20 blood reavers for £35 may be crazy. The dryad repack went up in model count and the annual report said they would experiment with box sizes and prices. This could be first of many. Plus having 40 already from the starter sets and only having built 20. If it comes with enough weapons I could see myself having 3 units of reavers all armed differently
Charles Rampant wrote: That doesn't really look like GW's style of art to me, but then it is possible that they don't feel constrained to one art style?
Yeah, hard to tell since we haven't seen a new AOS book yet.
Sure we did--the AoS book.
None of the art in there matched that style. That looks like Blanche art.
It would have fit in with the End Times stuff, but it looks off here. Not only that--it looks like it isn't an actual "book". Look over to the left side, it appears to be in a document binder.
judgedoug wrote: didn't see posted in last few pages, so here's next releases
RW1: THE QUEST FOR GHAL MARAZ (ENGLISH) Book (HB) 74
KHORNE BLOODBOUND BLOODREAVERS Plastic Box 58
SKAVEN PESTILENS PLAGUE MONKS Plastic Box 35
SKAVEN PESTILENS PLAGUE FURNACE Plastic Box 62
SKAVEN PESTILENS PLAGUECLAW Plastic Box 33
I'm guessing these are just repacks with round bases and not new sculpts?
Yes
also, Bloodreavers update: bloodreavers set is 20 dudes with the same options ie chieftain horn banner, but also 2-handed meatripper axes
Realmgate Wars Book 1 - The Quest for Ghal Maraz: 240 pages, includes more warscrolls, battleplans, scenarios and special rules for fighting in the realms of life, metal and fire. continues the ongoing campaign started in the aos hardcover book
Dragonfate Dais terrain kit, is for the moment, limited release
angelofvengeance wrote: Seems more likely that GW would sell Bloodreavers 10 to a box. That way they can do a massively overpriced web bundle for 30 lol.
Bloodreavers aren't "elite" units like the Stormcast though.
Bloodreavers have a save of "-"(meaning no saves at all) and you get 20 of them in the starter, which it only gives you one command set for as well.
Why cant people accept its 20 to a box, did anyone read what the ceo said about them doing new things in order to try new pricing ideas. Its still 35 quid but for 20 multipart models its not bad
Once per game, as a G&O or OK player, you may challenge your opponnt to a fart contest. Whoever manages to produce the smellier fart is the "King of Farts" and all enemy units in this round suffer a -1 to hit due to the nauseous gas numbing their mind.
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: So if the Dias is indeed actually limited release, what is the GW definition of limited release? Thanks in advance.
Just like the gates terrain piece, one wave for retail release then becoming a direct order only release. All of the AoS terrain kits are outsourced, hence the different plastic composition.
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angelofvengeance wrote: Seems more likely that GW would sell Bloodreavers 10 to a box. That way they can do a massively overpriced web bundle for 30 lol.
I guarantee 20 in a box, with command options, and Meatripper Axe weapon option, for $58
and while my rumor accuracy tracking hasn't been updated in a bit, I think i'm still sitting at 100%
Once per game, as a G&O or OK player, you may challenge your opponnt to a fart contest. Whoever manages to produce the louder fart is the "King of Farts" and all enemy units in this round suffer a -1 to hit due to the nauseous gas numbing their mind.
Hire me, GW. Do it.
Hilarious, original. Dull as ....
8th ed player, butthurt, whining as you have nothing better to do with your old armies......
angelofvengeance wrote: Seems more likely that GW would sell Bloodreavers 10 to a box. That way they can do a massively overpriced web bundle for 30 lol.
I guarantee 20 in a box, with command options, and Meatripper Axe weapon option, for $58
and while my rumor accuracy tracking hasn't been updated in a bit, I think i'm still sitting at 100%
@JudgeDoug: Thanks for the clarification. So I was half right on
the Baleful Realmgates then a splash release and then direct. Good work on recent rumours too, your source has been great.
judgedoug wrote: Bloodreavers update: bloodreavers set is 20 dudes with the same options ie chieftain horn banner, but also 2-handed meatripper axes
Realmgate Wars Book 1 - The Quest for Ghal Maraz: 240 pages, includes more warscrolls, battleplans, scenarios and special rules for fighting in the realms of life, metal and fire. continues the ongoing campaign started in the aos hardcover book
Dragonfate Dais terrain kit, is for the moment, limited release
Boo! I don't like limited release terrain, especially on such nice pieces. Have one preordered though. I didn't preorder the Occulam.
Bloodreavers being 20 per kit is pretty awesome. What is this with GW adding more models per box on the troops? Nice trend -- it would be great if they had this for every faction!
(wants 20 blood angels tacticals in a $50 box!!! dreams on)
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote: @JudgeDoug: Thanks for the clarification. So I was half right on the Baleful Realmgates then a splash release and then direct. Good work on recent rumours too, your source has been great.
This is not web-only shipped from the UK (or direct-only). My local store has reordered it just this week as a normal-ship order. Ships from US Distribution Center like everything else.
Once per game, as a G&O or OK player, you may challenge your opponnt to a fart contest. Whoever manages to produce the louder fart is the "King of Farts" and all enemy units in this round suffer a -1 to hit due to the nauseous gas numbing their mind.
Hire me, GW. Do it.
Hilarious, original. Dull as ....
8th ed player, butthurt, whining as you have nothing better to do with your old armies......
Every 8th edition player can play Age of floriSt. Just not every one wants to and exactly as you said, it's nothing better.
I wonder if the Chinese produced terrain kits are done with the less robust (but cheaper and quicker to produce) aluminium or copper injection moulds instead of steel,
it might explain their apparent unwillingness to do another run of something that has proved popular if the first time out they ran the moulds until they started to deteriorate
re-doing the tooling is a lot more complex/time consuming than just finding another time slot at the factory
(of course maybe the moulds are just destroyed as soon as the first run is done to prevent unauthorised use since they are out of GW's direct control)
Hanskrampf wrote: What the gak are they trying to prove with their Real-Life rules (pet, real flower, ...)?
This is just annoying.
They're trying to (war)hammer the point home that we're all too old for their games, I guess.
Ok. Considering the AoS debacle has finally gotten my group to open their minds regarding the wealth of massively better made games from smaller companies... I guess this really was what the hobby needed.
The unfortunate part is that 40k has fallen off around here. AoS was received so badly that it had a carry-over effect and has actively hurt 40k enthusiasm and turn-out.
I have no proble believing it, since my enthusiasm for 40k has also fallen a lot due to AoS.
And it seems that the rumour that the silly rules were only restricted to old units was false. What a disaster
streetsamurai wrote: Maybe, but i think that it shows that this design philosophy is pretty much what GW will push for AoS.
I might be wrong though
the funny rules so far (from what I have read) have been with special characters who likely no longer exist in this world, nothing in the new stuff has any of the "fun" rules... but it does not matter, you are just angry that you cannot grow a fine manly mustache...
bitethythumb wrote: the funny rules so far (from what I have read) have been with special characters who likely no longer exist in this world, nothing in the new stuff has any of the "fun" rules... but it does not matter, you are just angry that you cannot grow a fine manly mustache...
I thought perhaps you might have gone with Tombstone for inspiration?
bitethythumb wrote: the funny rules so far (from what I have read) have been with special characters who likely no longer exist in this world, nothing in the new stuff has any of the "fun" rules... but it does not matter, you are just angry that you cannot grow a fine manly mustache...
I thought perhaps you might have gone with Tombstone for inspiration?
What I'm wondering is if the Khorne marauder-ites (whatever the name is) are a precursor to a more generic marauder kit. The current one is solid, but showing its age.
bitethythumb wrote: the funny rules so far (from what I have read) have been with special characters who likely no longer exist in this world, nothing in the new stuff has any of the "fun" rules... but it does not matter, you are just angry that you cannot grow a fine manly mustache...
I thought perhaps you might have gone with Tombstone for inspiration?
I'm...kind of curious as to why people seem to be excited for twenty models at $58. You can get twenty goblins or clanrats for $35 at the GW online store; you could pick up twenty State Troops for $49.50. Is it just because the models are larger?
Spinner wrote: I'm...kind of curious as to why people seem to be excited for twenty models at $58. You can get twenty goblins or clanrats for $35 at the GW online store; you could pick up twenty State Troops for $49.50. Is it just because the models are larger?
20 nicely detailed space marine size models for 58 is pretty good.
It's because they're NEW! NEW! NEW! and also not as bad as we'd expected.
On a tangentially-related note, ukitakumuki has a new piece up, specifically the cover art for The Gates of Azyr. As always, he(?) includes some interesting tidbits about what the GW commission art process is like.
Guildsman wrote: It's because they're NEW! NEW! NEW! and also not as bad as we'd expected.
On a tangentially-related note, ukitakumuki has a new piece up, specifically the cover art for The Gates of Azyr. As always, he(?) includes some interesting tidbits about what the GW commission art process is like.
Already been posted in this thread, broheim.
Edit: Disregard, its in the Black Library thread, not this one!
Kanluwen wrote:
We have the rules for "Realm of Life" in the Age of Sigmar book.
There is no "color green" rule within those. This is something Warhammer World is doing for themselves.
I'm aware these aren't the official book rules for Realm of Life. I was under the impression that Warhammer World is controlled by GW, am I wrong? I kind of figured GW would sue the pants off their heads if they weren't.
Accolade wrote:Weren't people saying that the stupid rules would just be relegated to old armies as a way to discourage their use? Watching the progression of AOS has been quite hilarious. It's been rumors of things people are incredulous/upset about, others saying "pfft, GW would never do such a thing, you guys are dumb," and then GW doing exactly that. Every time
I honestly wouldn't be surprised at all if that's the real reason. I feel like this sort of thing is just to get players accepting this sort of idiocy to try to keep old players from leaving. "See, it's not just to make fun of you, it's the game!" Sadly, I suspect these sorts of imbecilic things will drive away more players than they will make stay.
Mr Morden wrote:Information is there in advance - looks like harmless fun to me - but then I have set up club games where King Kong fights Orks and a large multiplayer Dark Eldar arena game - they were not especially balanced but we all had fun - seems a larger version of this so would be happy to join in - IF everyone else there is looking for the same thing.
Its def not going to be for everyone but some will like it - some don't like hardcore tournament formats - which is at the other end of the scale......
You're right, they've given me plenty of time to repaint my stuff! No. Just, no. It's dumb. What are VC or TK armies supposed to do? Run green skeletons? Or how about those Pink or Blue horrors? I mean, it's dumb. Plain and simple.
Kanluwen wrote:
We have the rules for "Realm of Life" in the Age of Sigmar book.
There is no "color green" rule within those. This is something Warhammer World is doing for themselves.
I'm aware these aren't the official book rules for Realm of Life. I was under the impression that Warhammer World is controlled by GW, am I wrong? I kind of figured GW would sue the pants off their heads if they weren't.
There is a significant difference between "events ran by a GW store" and GW's actual rule sets.
This isn't the first time that WHW has done something like this, yet previously there was no real issue.
I do appreciate anybody that leaks/takes such pictures...but at that size with no shots of the Blood Reavers...how is it even possible to take shots that small with modern technology?
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I do appreciate anybody that leaks/takes such pictures...but at that size with no shots of the Blood Reavers...how is it even possible to take shots that small with modern technology?
Work in tech support/computer retail for more than 24 hours and you will never ask questions like that again. There are genuinely people out there so caveman-scared-of-fire terrified of/confused by even the simplest technologies they would struggle with those talking phone toys they have in nurseries.
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I do appreciate anybody that leaks/takes such pictures...but at that size with no shots of the Blood Reavers...how is it even possible to take shots that small with modern technology?
Probably cropped from the original photo which was taken at a distance... you know. To be even less helpful.
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I do appreciate anybody that leaks/takes such pictures...but at that size with no shots of the Blood Reavers...how is it even possible to take shots that small with modern technology?
Probably cropped from the original photo which was taken at a distance... you know. To be even less helpful.
could have been worse, he could have had the shakes.
Plumbumbarum wrote: Ghal Maraz is not a best name ever for a fantasy place tbh.
Well, it's a hammer given to Sigmar in his Heroquest-days by the Dwarfs, not a place, and one of the few holdovers in AoS from the "old" Warhammer. If that name isn't for you, it's the one-in-a-thousand names in AoS that you'd actually have to take up with the GW writers of old.
Why is there a quest for it anyway? Why not just walk over to the guy fielding 5x Karl Franz's and politely request them to share one with the God - King?
Demandread wrote: Why is there a quest for it anyway? Why not just walk over to the guy fielding 5x Karl Franz's and politely request them to share one with the God - King?
Sigmar loses it fighting Chaos before he rage quits and goes back to the drawing board in the Celestial Realm. Grungni (the Dwarf god) makes Sigmar a new beat stick to replace Ghal Maraz.
Alpharius wrote: Is there a reason why he needs Ghal Maraz Original then?
Is it in the hands of someone naughty?
Indeed it is, in Chamon(Realm of Metal).
Ephryx, the Ninth Disciple of Tzeentch, apparently found Ghal Maraz by chance. The original settlers of the Glimmerlands found the hammer, raised up a monument to it during the time in which Sigmar barred the gates.
Then Ephryx and his followers tore the monument down, found the hammer and were constantly kept at bay by the fact that Ghal Maraz would blind anyone tainted by Chaos. They raised up The Eldritch City over top of it after being given a vision by Tzeentch that Sigmar would one day return for the hammer.
This is all in the big AoS book, page 220-221. PM me if you want the full blurb typed out Alph.
Kilkrazy wrote: Perhaps Sigmar needs Ghal Maraz original to sell on eBay to get the money for more Storm Caste Sigmarines.
The implication is that as he imbues the Stormcast Eternals with his power he's becoming weakened---as most of his power was associated with Ghal Maraz given that the Heldenhammer was in and of itself as much a religious symbol as an icon of authority.
Kilkrazy wrote: Perhaps Sigmar needs Ghal Maraz original to sell on eBay to get the money for more Storm Caste Sigmarines.
The implication is that as he imbues the Stormcast Eternals with his power he's becoming weakened---as most of his power was associated with Ghal Maraz given that the Heldenhammer was in and of itself as much a religious symbol as an icon of authority.
So.....everytime chaos kills an eternal, Sigmar is weakened?
And everytime you kill a chaos warrior or reaver Khorne laughs and chalks up another skull?
Chaos obviously did a lot of writing up the rules for this new universe.
Kilkrazy wrote: Perhaps Sigmar needs Ghal Maraz original to sell on eBay to get the money for more Storm Caste Sigmarines.
The implication is that as he imbues the Stormcast Eternals with his power he's becoming weakened---as most of his power was associated with Ghal Maraz given that the Heldenhammer was in and of itself as much a religious symbol as an icon of authority.
So.....everytime chaos kills an eternal, Sigmar is weakened?
And everytime you kill a chaos warrior or reaver Khorne laughs and chalks up another skull?
Chaos obviously did a lot of writing up the rules for this new universe.
That's where things get a bit murky.
There's a suggestion that Sigmar "intervenes" before his Stormcast are slain, calling their essence back to him and allowing it to be reborn in Azyr.
Talys wrote: This is not web-only shipped from the UK (or direct-only). My local store has reordered it just this week as a normal-ship order. Ships from US Distribution Center like everything else.
This will change to direct after initial retail sales die down. GW doesn't want to flood stores with SKUs
Alpharius wrote: Is there a reason why he needs Ghal Maraz Original then?
Is it in the hands of someone naughty?
Indeed it is, in Chamon(Realm of Metal).
Ephryx, the Ninth Disciple of Tzeentch, apparently found Ghal Maraz by chance. The original settlers of the Glimmerlands found the hammer, raised up a monument to it during the time in which Sigmar barred the gates.
Then Ephryx and his followers tore the monument down, found the hammer and were constantly kept at bay by the fact that Ghal Maraz would blind anyone tainted by Chaos. They raised up The Eldritch City over top of it after being given a vision by Tzeentch that Sigmar would one day return for the hammer.
This is all in the big AoS book, page 220-221. PM me if you want the full blurb typed out Alph.
I'm all for the search for Ghal Maraz if it means new Tzeentch models
Doesnt it make it more frustrating though? if they can sell models at that price point but then sell Sigmarines at $10 a model or $11.60 for the latest Paladin's.
Amazingly enough, that's actually a price DROP for Censer Bearers. They used to be 2 models for $14 USD, or $7 a model. Now you get 5 models for $33, so a $2 savings.
Hold on, some dude on a white horse just went by my window...
So is the Plague Priest just Skrolk repacked with a round base and no longer called Skrolk?
[Sorbo]DisaaaPOINTED[/Sorbo]
Still can't see enough of the Bloodreavers to decide if I'll get a box. It's proving surprisingly easy to de-Khornify the ones from the starter box, but at first glance these guys look to have even more iconography particularly on the weapons. On the one hand I'd like more poses so my 3 Chaos Marauder Mordheim warbands don't look like the same bunch of guys in different outfits, but on the other modern GW fantasy kits typically aren't very posable and a 20-strong box, while a positive step from a pricing PoV, will likely only have 5 or 10 poses which are then duplicated to make up the numbers, so I'm not sold yet.
Look forward to the sprue pics, no interest in the kit or the game. But there's one or two heads I'll be raiding the bits sellers for, assuming they're separate.
Definitely picking up a box. It'll give me 20 ccw guys out my first starter set, 20 with double handed weapons from the box and the other 20 out the second starter set converted up with different heads, arms etc
angelofvengeance wrote: So if the box of 20 is 32GBP (or thereabouts) that's 1.60GBP per model. Not bad GW, not bad.
Well, it's not a "great price" per se, considering that smaller companies sell quality plastic infantry for half the price.. (0,80 GBP/model) But it's ok considering it's GW
So does anyone know of any current model with the Chaos and Totem Keyword? Because 12" range for an extra attack is pretty ace, does the Chaos war shrine have that?
EDIT: Chaos hero with battle standard and in fact the chaos Warshrine!
Chopxsticks wrote: So does anyone know of any current model with the Chaos and Totem Keyword? Because 12" range for an extra attack is pretty ace, does the Chaos war shrine have that?
EDIT: Chaos hero with battle standard and in fact the chaos Warshrine!
Also the Bloodsecrator from the starter set, who gives also +1 attack for Keyword Khorne. Bloodreavers can be buffed pretty brutal.
Woah, 3 attacks within range of Warshrine and Bloodsecrator, unit with reaver blades can reroll hits of 1, and you can also pray to your shrine and pick nurgle and reroll failed wound rolls.
Alpharius wrote: I don't know if 240 pages constitutes a 'shelf-bursting hardback' but I'm sure it will be a nice looking tome.
If it's anything like the other hardback, it will bean easy read with a ton of pictures
I enjoyed the 264 page AoS book more than I thought I would, though I glossed over the scenarios. Someone else said it best, that someone in the play group should have it, but it's certainly a highly shareable book. We'll see with this one, not sure I'll buy it, as it bites too much into my painting time!
migooo wrote: I wonder why the angel guys were not released yet. Maybe it's like the deathcopta ork thing.
Anyway. I actually like them more than I thought I would.(khorne guys)
Not enough to buy though.
Maybe gw know folks are a bit bored of the same release and as its one of the last stormcast releases they maybe just wanted to break it up some more the back page of white dwarf suggests blood warriors could be soon among the khorne stuff mentioned in the book
migooo wrote: I wonder why the angel guys were not released yet. Maybe it's like the deathcopta ork thing.
Anyway. I actually like them more than I thought I would.(khorne guys)
Not enough to buy though.
Maybe gw know folks are a bit bored of the same release and as its one of the last stormcast releases they maybe just wanted to break it up some more the back page of white dwarf suggests blood warriors could be soon among the khorne stuff mentioned in the book
I understand this. Maybe it be better if they chopped up the weekly releases for a box from the New factions per week.
angelofvengeance wrote: singyourlife: I think you've just missed the bit where it confirms 20 guys in the box lol
Na, I know exactly how many models there are in the box, I'm just saying that GW never cares if the size of a box justifies the prices they recommend [except in this instance of course]
angelofvengeance wrote: singyourlife: I think you've just missed the bit where it confirms 20 guys in the box lol
Na, I know exactly how many models there are in the box, I'm just saying that GW never cares if the size of a box justifies the prices they recommend [except in this instance of course]
True, but with Blood Reavers in a box of 20, not 10, and certainly not a box priced at USD 55,-, the rest of said rumor is likely also in the "made-up-maybe-something-sticks" category (surprise), including the highly anticipated plastic Fleshhounds.
BoLS wrote:
via Bird In the Trees 7-29-2015
Early August:
Khorne Lord blister @$35
Plastic Khorne Blood Reavers, 10 w/ new weapon for @$55
Pretty cool fig and the price is very good. But the AoS relases have been really boring so far. it's hard to get excited about this game when the only things we got so far are the multipart version of the starter set miniatures (except for a few exception, like the archers and the characters). It's starting to get really stale.
streetsamurai wrote: Pretty cool fig and the price is very good. But the AoS relases have been really boring so far. it's hard to get excited about this game when the only things we got so far are the multipart version of the starter set miniatures (except for a few exception, like the archers and the characters). It's starting to get really stale.
I think if you give it another month or 2 they will get through all of the starter set stuff and start getting into new models for other armies. They probably figure more folks will want to boost the armies they already have from the starter and want to get them out of the way before other stuff.
Kilkrazy wrote: £2 a figure is good value by normal GW standards. Are Blood Reavers any good in game?
Very good.
Bloodreavers can get up to 5 attacks(6 for their unit leader) per model given certain circumstances.
+1 attack for the "Rage of Khorne" ability from the Bloodsecrator opening up the Portal of Skulls during your Hero Phase
+1 attack for being within 12" of a Chaos Totem
+1 attack for a Khorne Exalted Hero utilizing his "Bloodlord" Command Ability
+1 attack if they are within 3 inches of a Wrathmonger, per the Wrathmonger's "Blood Haze" ability
Additionally, with the "Rage of Khorne" ability from Portal of Skulls comes immunity to Battleshock, which is huge for models with no armor save.
In all honesty, I've played against and with the new Khorne stuff three or four times now--and it's scary as all hell to be facing down a group of 40 Bloodreavers with just their little twin knives that are hitting on 4+ and wounding on 4+, with rerolls of hit rolls of 1 and a Rend value of nothing.
The thought of them getting a two handed axe that is 4+/4+ with a Rend of -1 is downright terrifying.
Count me slightly disappointed. I think that multi-part Bloodreavers look worse than those from the Age of Sigmar boxed set. Having multiple options often results in design compromises and these are no exception. The shoulders on hand weapon arms look awful . Great weapon arms are somewhat better. Looks like I might build them all armed with great weapons.
They look about the same to me like. More interested in the blood warriors kit when that comes though I expect that will be 5 for £30 again which will be the main negative.
Really hoping they get the characters out that are mentioned in the book soon more than anything though
New bloodreavers with 2 handed weapons look GREAT!
Really tempted to get some.
Can't believe they are releasing another giant book already... It takes a long time to put together an army. I'm sure most are still painting the starter set... and already there are two massive books? Who's gonna keep up with that rate?
streetsamurai wrote: Pretty cool fig and the price is very good. But the AoS relases have been really boring so far. it's hard to get excited about this game when the only things we got so far are the multipart version of the starter set miniatures (except for a few exception, like the archers and the characters). It's starting to get really stale.
I think if you give it another month or 2 they will get through all of the starter set stuff and start getting into new models for other armies. They probably figure more folks will want to boost the armies they already have from the starter and want to get them out of the way before other stuff.
I don't believe that's going to happen since this is entirely too much effort for GW to put into a fantasy game. My theory is that the models from The End Times *are* the "new" models for each AoS faction (assuming your faction got any). It'll be back to 40k as usual soon imo and AoS will fade into nothingness with as much inspiration as it was born with.
Total War: Warhammer might be the most natural pairing in all of games, bringing Games Workshop's huge Warhammer fantasy universe into contact with Creative Assembly's franchise of massive scale war games. Its time was less so, coming just before a major reboot to the tabletop game that moved the universe into a new continuity call the Age of Sigmar. Jeremy sat down with CA's Andy Hall to ask what that meant for the game.
"The way I see it is, we've always been a historical war-game maker [laughs] and that's exactly what we're doing, it's just this one's based in fantasy. Our game's very much based in the age of Karl Franz, which is 2502 [when] he became the emperor. That's pretty much where we're staying. 8th edition, so to speak."
So definitely still a classic-Warhammer game, then. However, Andy didn't totally close the door on expanding, "Saying that, Age of Sigmar looks great, I've got a copy of it already and the minatures are fantastic. So I'm sure we'll be keeping an eye on that in the future."
The relationship between Games Workshop and Creative Assembly is obviously only just beginning, but if the game does well, clearly there's hope for it to continue. I myself have my heart set on a Total War in the galactic sphere of Warhammer 40,000, perhaps starting as a game about the Great Crusade and running you all the way through to the end of the Horus Heresy. Just imagining that game gets me salivating, so seeing what CA and GW actually come up with will be fascinating.
We just have to hope this first game is good and does well. We've had some hands-on time in Germany and will have an in-depth preview for you soon. While you're waiting here's the latest trailer, featuring dive-bombing goblins.
Welp, there goes hope that Realhammer would survive from now on in CA games. No doubt they'll finish out the planned expandalones/DLCs for this title and then, if they get the license again, it'll be Age of Kool Aid time.
Picked up the Paladins and the Dragonfate Dias today; I didn't get the Occulam (partly becausae I bought a whole bunch of 40k stuff).
The Paladins are really cool -- they come on 3 sprues and have very nice weapon options/bits. The halberds are 2 parts, with the head separate from the shaft, which kind of bugs me, because glued, they're just less resilient to dropping than if it's a single piece of plastic. But generally, the weapons look outstanding.
You can see that the kits are going the direction of space marines, with many interchangeable parts with other Stormcast Eternals kits, too.
I really, REALLY like the Dragonfate Dias. I have no idea what I'll do with it, but I'm definitely going to paint that puppy up!
Will the blood guys of blood from the starter set be getting new units like the sigmarites did or is the warriors of chaos army their additional units? I know that since sigmar was brand new they might have needed more units but i was still curious about starter set chaos.
usernamesareannoying wrote: Will the blood guys of blood from the starter set be getting new units like the sigmarites did or is the warriors of chaos army their additional units? I know that since sigmar was brand new they might have needed more units but i was still curious about starter set chaos.
That was the rumor, right? That there would be a month of Choas. I dunno that there has been any confirmation or details, though, and of course, the devil is in the details.
streetsamurai wrote: Pretty cool fig and the price is very good. But the AoS relases have been really boring so far. it's hard to get excited about this game when the only things we got so far are the multipart version of the starter set miniatures (except for a few exception, like the archers and the characters). It's starting to get really stale.
I think if you give it another month or 2 they will get through all of the starter set stuff and start getting into new models for other armies. They probably figure more folks will want to boost the armies they already have from the starter and want to get them out of the way before other stuff.
I don't believe that's going to happen since this is entirely too much effort for GW to put into a fantasy game. My theory is that the models from The End Times *are* the "new" models for each AoS faction (assuming your faction got any). It'll be back to 40k as usual soon imo and AoS will fade into nothingness with as much inspiration as it was born with.
Nope. Khorne got a few releases in End Times and are due for more this month and following (assuming not all this moth). Including but not limited too Blood Reavers, Blood Warriors, Slaughter priest, skull grinder and death bringers and huge pinch of salt plastic flesh hounds
AoS releases are running into October when new tau codex hits, this has been long rumoured. Then it will go to a month on month kind of release. GW wont just throw AoS away just cause certain folk want/think that. Gw have had this idea for years and have put a lot into this. Expect the same for 40k at some point starting with the rumoured heresy box which supposedly has similar rules to AoS
Can't believe they are releasing another giant book already... It takes a long time to put together an army. I'm sure most are still painting the starter set... and already there are two massive books? Who's gonna keep up with that rate?
Honestly I think its pretty brilliant. The one thing a lot of people rightly complained about with 40k recently was that GW were to quick to release new editions of books which required players to drop another ~$60 to keep playing.
The beauty of AoS on the otherhand is that since all the essential rules are free, you aren't required to pick up every new book they release. Instead you can pick up whichever campaign book interests you or specifically features the factions you play, and what you get is some more fluff and a collection of prebuilt scenarios to recreate what you're reading about. And if that doesn't tickles your fancy then theres no reason to feel like you're missing out.
By the way, the pieces I missed in the photograph are the little caps in step 4 of the instructions that sit on top of the pillars.
The Dragon Pillars seem like they would be really generically useful, and even the two disc-shaped pieces and the stairway+landing (in step 1) look like they have decent terrain conversion value -- for example, you could cut off the back half of it and make a cool arced balcony to a building.
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I'm really surprised by how the pieces are in the box. No sprue at all?
GW has done this for some other kits, the first one I'm familiar with was the Witchfate Tor. It had "Made in China" on the box, so perhaps this is the same?
Sarouan wrote: T
I'm really surprised by how the pieces are in the box. No sprue at all?
GW has done this for some other kits, the first one I'm familiar with was the Witchfate Tor. It had "Made in China" on the box, so perhaps this is the same?
The gates are made in China, as I think, all the new scenery is.
Also there is sprue - it's just been clipped off already. There are the marks where the sprue used to join.
The WarStore had several of the new terrain kits for AoS at GenCon in their booth. I thought they looked really nice, but I don't have a need for them.
I don't trust my kids with the way that thing stands, so I'd be tempted to do some converting into little terrain bits and pieces instead of its intended design.
Same reason I haven't picked up those gateways yet.
You're welcome guys -- here is another picture of top part of the dias, with the pieces just resting in place so that you can see the dragons at different angles. Also, for the top caps that I neglected to photograph the first time.
Sigmarite is there to give you an idea of scale -- the 50mm base fits the circle in the center of the dias exactly
Talys wrote: You're welcome guys -- here is another picture of top part of the dias, with the pieces just resting in place so that you can see the dragons at different angles. Also, for the top caps that I neglected to photograph the first time.
Sigmarite is there to give you an idea of scale -- the 50mm base fits the circle in the center of the dias exactly
So what you are saying is that this terrain kit is a glorified photoset for characters?
not sure if news or old but there is now a "Pestilens" faction at the GW store site... with the verminlord as the sole mini... if old news ignore please, but I just noticed it... maybe that is a new faction like the sylvaneth for wood aelfs
So what you are saying is that this terrain kit is a glorified photoset for characters?
No, I'm saying the center is exactly 50mm. A sculpted disc fills in the spot where input a model (but you can put a model on top of it). You can place models on the Dias between the dragons, in the center, on the stairs, and anywhere on the lower level. It looks like this complete:
The terrain shown so far is the one high point of AoS for me.
It's pretty, but doesn't seem very in-game useable, unless you're just looking for something that gets in the way of movement (which is a valid use for terrain). It doesn't appear to be something that would be easy to place models upon, except for a very limited fashion.
The terrain shown so far is the one high point of AoS for me.
It's pretty, but doesn't seem very in-game useable, unless you're just looking for something that gets in the way of movement (which is a valid use for terrain). It doesn't appear to be something that would be easy to place models upon, except for a very limited fashion.
Well yeah...it's meant to be a "foci" for a Priest to be set upon.
Models, especially 25mm and 32mm base ones, will fit readily anywhere on the Dias.
Remember, this is a 'herohammer' style game, not a ranked up one, making this sort of terrain quite useful. But it's no less useful than any of the old Fantasy terrain, which I always liked (and have a bunch of) too. I think a lot of the old terrain is actually more useful in the new game than it was before (like Magewrath, and the floaty throne for instance).
The terrain shown so far is the one high point of AoS for me.
It's pretty, but doesn't seem very in-game useable, unless you're just looking for something that gets in the way of movement (which is a valid use for terrain). It doesn't appear to be something that would be easy to place models upon, except for a very limited fashion.
Well yeah...it's meant to be a "foci" for a Priest to be set upon.
Yep. And here's the warscroll for the Dragonfate Dais (and not 'dias' )
Yep. And here's the warscroll for the Dragonfate Dais (and not 'dias' )
Unless I'm missing something, "dais" is the correct spelling for "a low platform for a lectern, seats of honor, or a throne."
It is, but people have been writing "Dias", like Juan Dias. I don't know why it can't be a "Chaos Daemonic Dais", for the inevitable "Choas Deamonic Dias"...
Yep. And here's the warscroll for the Dragonfate Dais (and not 'dias' )
Unless I'm missing something, "dais" is the correct spelling for "a low platform for a lectern, seats of honor, or a throne."
It is, but people have been writing "Dias", like Juan Dias. I don't know why it can't be a "Chaos Daemonic Dais", for the inevitable "Choas Deamonic Dias"...
As far as the Blood Reavers go, looking forward to seeing them in the flesh. First impression is that they're a little more static than the ones in the starter. I really liked the motion in the starter set figs, so hopefully that is conveyed a little better than it looks at first glance.
The special AoS terrain pieces each have a special rule giving some kind of area buff, as well as blocking LoS for shooting, and impeding movement. IDK what the situation is for models wanting to attack a model in the middle, and not being able to get physically close enough because the pillars block the edges.
Although it looks like you'll probably have a set of repeated sprues, the pictures they've got up at the moment show the same one twice - which clearly doesn't match up with the models you can make.
Wow. I've painted one of the marauders out of the starter set. I was pleasantly surprised by how good the anatomy was on him. Much better and more realistic musculature than I've come to expect from GW and their ever increasing focus on power armour.
Those studio paintjobs make what I know should be good sculpts look like absolute gak.
The scenery kits are really terrific. Said it before but its by far one of GWs strongest points, from 40k to Fantasy. The detail on the new ones is top notch. Time to place an order methinks.
Also love the new stormcast paladin thingys - sorely tempted to pick up a kit and create some 40k Custodians, they fit exceptionally well.
Didn't the plague monk box actually have a few censers in there, or were those meant to just be generic maces?
Now that I don't need to bother ranking everything up my rats are getting put in all kinds unrankable poses and those mace things are most certainly going to be considered censers.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Didn't the plague monk box actually have a few censers in there, or were those meant to just be generic maces?
Now that I don't need to bother ranking everything up my rats are getting put in all kinds unrankable poses and those mace things are most certainly going to be considered censers.
I see the limited edition book comes with an exclusive set of 8 scenarios. Anyone have any information on this? Are they reprints from the book or actual exclusive scenarios?
Gw words things wierd sometimes and the didnt say exclusive scenarios... they said an exclusive set of scenarios. Could just mean how they are being presented.
If they are exclusive to 1000 then I'll buy it as scenario variety is what keeps aos fresh.
I'm wondering if the new smallest-sized bases in AoS will be the 32mm ones the Bloodreavers are on.
I picked up some Bloodletters to go with the Khorne force but their bases are so tiny. Wondering if I want to rebase. Technically, small bases help me getting them into combat, but I have problems with the inconsistency.
What I was gonna do if I rebase my armies is have anything that was on a 25mm square like orcs or sauruses go on a 32mm round and anything on a 20mm square like goblins and skinks will get a 25mm round.
just for the fun of it since bases don't matter, and watch people get confused over what advantage they're giving you
Were I not so concerned with the aesthetics my minis I might give this a try. Imagine that if you put all the pieces together properly that it put them all in a formation on a battlefield scene or something appropriate for the faction.
Back on topic thought, strange how they made the box of khorne guys "reasonably" priced but then jack up the price on the plague monks who are still finecast so obviously not sold enough to clear the stock of them. Its like GW make a good move then make a knuckle headed move, rinse and repeat.
Yep. And here's the warscroll for the Dragonfate Dais (and not 'dias' )
Unless I'm missing something, "dais" is the correct spelling for "a low platform for a lectern, seats of honor, or a throne."
It is, but people have been writing "Dias", like Juan Dias. I don't know why it can't be a "Chaos Daemonic Dais", for the inevitable "Choas Deamonic Dias"...
just for the fun of it since bases don't matter, and watch people get confused over what advantage they're giving you
That's a fun idea!
Another option is to base them on 2 foot square MDF, since you are allowed to stack bases to move models within the required distance. This also has the advantage that you can make really quite impressive dioramas on the bases.
just for the fun of it since bases don't matter, and watch people get confused over what advantage they're giving you
That's a fun idea!
Another option is to base them on 2 foot square MDF, since you are allowed to stack bases to move models within the required distance. This also has the advantage that you can make really quite impressive dioramas on the bases.
Ratius wrote: Any rumours on whos getting a bump next, nurgle/khorne obivously but after that?
Do we expect every single range to get a serious revamp or?
Nothing solid. A lot of releases will be repacks ie dryads/ treeman, skaven and nurgle. Nee stuff wise obviously khorne, there is a few stormcast units and leaders who will be released but its really just keep an eye out
455_PWR wrote: I see the limited edition book comes with an exclusive set of 8 scenarios. Anyone have any information on this? Are they reprints from the book or actual exclusive scenarios?
Gw words things wierd sometimes and the didnt say exclusive scenarios... they said an exclusive set of scenarios. Could just mean how they are being presented.
If they are exclusive to 1000 then I'll buy it as scenario variety is what keeps aos fresh.
They're not exclusive sets of scenarios.
They're reprints from the book, to give you an easy reference guide--at least that's what I was told.
Yep. And here's the warscroll for the Dragonfate Dais (and not 'dias' )
Unless I'm missing something, "dais" is the correct spelling for "a low platform for a lectern, seats of honor, or a throne."
It is, but people have been writing "Dias", like Juan Dias. I don't know why it can't be a "Chaos Daemonic Dais", for the inevitable "Choas Deamonic Dias"...
Ratius wrote: The scenery kits are really terrific. Said it before but its by far one of GWs strongest points, from 40k to Fantasy. The detail on the new ones is top notch. Time to place an order methinks.
yes, I've got a couple of the next scenery kits coming on order soon.
Ratius wrote: Uhm 31 quid for 20 plague monks and 46 for 20 bloodreavers?
Have I missed something? Thats damn good value to be fair.
Not sure if serious, but plague monks are a much older kit with less detail, and are smaller models to boot. The difference in price seems reasonable to me.
But like you said the value is certainly there. I'm not a fan of GW right now but I have to say that these boxes are a (small) step in the right direction.
In USD it's $35 for 20 plague monks, $41 for Dryads, and $58 for 20 bloodreavers, so the price difference would seem to account for that.
I think $1.75 per model is as cheap as we've seen GW models in a really long time, though, and $2.05 and $2.90 per model is pretty decent too. I mean, it should satisfy people who constantly look at that metric, and claim that a game piece is just a game piece. It's not like plague monks are really junky models -- but I do agree that they're older and far less detailed than new models.
I also think that at these prices, the models become attractive as game pieces that some people want for other game systems, too.
Thats a shame. Guess its just mortal Khorne releases this month. Not a bad thing but plastic flesh hounds would have been cool
Next week have some Nurgle stuff as shown on last page of White Dwarf, so not an entire "Khorne Month". Probably just a repack of ET stuff on my opinion... but still cannot wait to see if rumor about new GUO are true!
Thats a shame. Guess its just mortal Khorne releases this month. Not a bad thing but plastic flesh hounds would have been cool
Next week have some Nurgle stuff as shown on last page of White Dwarf, so not an entire "Khorne Month". Probably just a repack of ET stuff on my opinion... but still cannot wait to see if rumor about new GUO are true!
Makes sense because all those Skaven units that went up for preorder last week count as Nurgle units now.
The Skaven stuff, like they Syvaneth are just repacks though (yeah, new quantities and whatnot, but they're still the same models). You never know, might be something new for Nurgle coming up
Saw some folks yesterday playing AoS with rebased Skaven to round; they look pretty good on round bases, I think.
Thats a shame. Guess its just mortal Khorne releases this month. Not a bad thing but plastic flesh hounds would have been cool
Next week have some Nurgle stuff as shown on last page of White Dwarf, so not an entire "Khorne Month". Probably just a repack of ET stuff on my opinion... but still cannot wait to see if rumor about new GUO are true!
The repacks probably don't count as new releases. It looks like repacks are being done alongside actual new released probably so gw can get as much stuff out as quickly as possible. So in a way it I a khorne month as they are the new releases. Personally I think its a good thing. First book brought sylvaneth and they got their rereleased alongside new stuff. This book out Saturday is skaven focused and they are getting their releases again alongside actual new releases. GW are capitalizing on what they are doing which makes a massive change but a good one.
And to be fair to GW a lot, though not all, of the re-packs are costing money in terms of new AOS branded packaging for no increase in cost. The addition of round/oval bases is neither here or there as the style of base is irrelevant but the added value in the likes of the additional Dryad miniatures or savings in the Forest Spirit Warhost shows that it is not all about the money.
The cost of the Stormcast Eternal infantry boxes is a different kettle of fish though.
Bottle wrote:Loooooool plague censor bearers £20 for 2??? £10 each????? Whose going to pay that?
The picture is only 2, but if you click through it's 5 dudes for £20.
H.B.M.C. wrote:So by how much, roughly, did the Censer Bearers go up?
And did the Screaming Bell go up in price?
Dunno about you folks down under, but Censer Bearers actually went DOWN in price a little for the US. Screaming Bell and everything else stayed the same.
It looks like Nurgle's forces (Bloodbound equivalent) are being called the Rotbringers. Its possible we could see new Nurgle units down the line (which would be awesome.)
Bottle wrote:Loooooool plague censor bearers £20 for 2??? £10 each????? Whose going to pay that?
The picture is only 2, but if you click through it's 5 dudes for £20.
Ah that makes more sense now. They've changed that, then. It definitely said 2 the other day, I remember checking because I was so shocked by the price for 2, and it definitely said 2 in the description then.
Yeah, they updated it and it says 5 now on the US site too. It did originally say two but I think they only uploaded the price and photo and just copy pasted the description. So it's actually a slight price drop if I'm doing the math right.
Shadowclaimer wrote: It looks like Nurgle's forces (Bloodbound equivalent) are being called the Rotbringers. Its possible we could see new Nurgle units down the line (which would be awesome.)
GW loves them some KHORNE and NURGLE - so I'd say we're pretty much guaranteed some new NURGLE units down the line.
It isn't a matter of 'if', it is a matter of 'when'!
Exalted Deathbringer for Khorne announced for next week;
This is the first multi-part plastic character for the Khorne Bloodbound, this is truly terrifying model holding a huge Runious Axe and ready to take on the forces of the Stormcast Eternals it will make a great addition to any customers Bloodbound force.
Also, a whole bunch of Nurgle units are getting repackaged/re-based.
MongooseMatt wrote: Exalted Deathbringer for Khorne announced for next week;
This is the first multi-part plastic character for the Khorne Bloodbound, this is truly terrifying model holding a huge Runious Axe and ready to take on the forces of the Stormcast Eternals it will make a great addition to any customers Bloodbound force.
Also, a whole bunch of Nurgle units are getting repackaged/re-based.
Please... don't look like this (pretty please GW?):
I looked at that model in the store, wondering whether it would look decent without the flail bits or the red skin. I don't think that he is salvageable, to be honest. Truly atrocious.
MongooseMatt wrote: Exalted Deathbringer for Khorne announced for next week;
This is the first multi-part plastic character for the Khorne Bloodbound, this is truly terrifying model holding a huge Runious Axe and ready to take on the forces of the Stormcast Eternals it will make a great addition to any customers Bloodbound force.
Also, a whole bunch of Nurgle units are getting repackaged/re-based.
Please... don't look like this (pretty please GW?):
Skaar is fine. Just snip off the flail parts (it's not tough at all) and use the human head that is unmasked. I'm quite happy with mine.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Actually, some of the armor was optional too. I left most of it off. He's very toned down.
Shadowclaimer wrote: It looks like Nurgle's forces (Bloodbound equivalent) are being called the Rotbringers. Its possible we could see new Nurgle units down the line (which would be awesome.)
GW loves them some KHORNE and NURGLE - so I'd say we're pretty much guaranteed some new NURGLE units down the line.
It isn't a matter of 'if', it is a matter of 'when'!
Now TZEENTCH and SLAANESH on the other hand...
As someone who just started a Nurgle army to oppose my Wind of Life based Stormcast Eternal army, I'm hype.
Also I assume Tzeentch will get some love soonish considering his forces play a huge role in the Quest for Ghal Moraz.
Proper pic to save some effort. Holy. gak. This model is awesome (IMO)...
A Tzeentchi champion model for this guy too maybe? Purely speculation at this point, but since GW seems to be on a "artwork of products only" vibe lately, it seems plausible?
His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Also his muscle on the claw arm is growing over the straps...
That is a very well executed plastic model. But the design does leave me feeling like it's lacking... a lot of GW's lately have done so - I guess I'm just not onboard with the direction they're heading (doesn't necessarily make it a bad one).
Swastakowey wrote: His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Also his muscle on the claw arm is growing over the straps...
Not a fan at all.
I see what you're saying about the strap- but given how his arm is positioned, you do kinda lose sight of the strap a little bit cause it's right up to the elbow. Not really an issue.
As for the axe- he looks pretty well imbued by the power of Khorne. Though the grip on his claw kinda gets in the way of holding the axe 2 handed.
Swastakowey wrote: His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Also his muscle on the claw arm is growing over the straps...
Not a fan at all.
I see what you're saying about the strap- but given how his arm is positioned, you do kinda lose sight of the strap a little bit cause it's right up to the elbow. Not really an issue.
As for the axe- he looks pretty well imbued by the power of Khorne. Though the grip on his claw kinda gets in the way of holding the axe 2 handed.
Looking at human muscles it would be impossible for the strap to have a muscle mushroom over it. Especially at the bend of the arm on the model. Unless the arm is growing around the strap (but then horrible infections arise from that)... Not a huge issue but I like my models to look normal, so these things stick out to me.
I don't know if you have seen a real war ax, but they are tiny (because they are heavy) in the head, but as I said he can possible have the excuse of a demon power or something. However there is no way I can see so far that it would be possible for him to use it 2 handed with his other weapon in the way.
The model is nice from a quality standpoint, but the design is just way off. Kinda like a lot of new GW models to be honest.
Swastakowey wrote: His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Also his muscle on the claw arm is growing over the straps...
Not a fan at all.
i don't see how the axe is too big...
i am a fan of over-the-top weapon sizes...
i do agree that the inbuilt handle on the other arm's weapon makes the composition look wrong...
he should be able to use the axe two-handed:(...
the muscle is not growing over the strap, it is in the crook of his elbow, with the bicep flexed and bulging over the strap because of the 90 degree bend...
that part looks good, but the hand grip is definitely an issue...
i like that this guy isn't extruding skulls from his stomach like the starter set Lord...
the paintjob on his flesh is also really nice...
this guy looks much nicer than the direction that the End Times Khorne models took...
Khorne is my favorite Chaos God, but even i couldn't get into the Bloodmongers, or Skaar...
this guy is much more appealing...
i wonder if we will see a mounted Khorne Lord, since the starter box had a mounted Stormcast Eternal Lord, and then a clampack Lord on foot...
maybe we will get a cool plastic Jugger Lord...
not that it would be easy to top Jes' metal one, but plastic is just so much more user-friendly to work with...
should be an interesting month...
Model is amazing. I dont like how tall the hair thing is, but really thats one quick snip fix.
Also I dont think he muscle is growing over the leather strap, he simply has a strap high on his forarm and his bicep is pressing up on it. If you have ever given blood they put that tape around arm and if you bring your arm up your bicep covers it.
Chopxsticks wrote: Model is amazing. I dont like how tall the hair thing is, but really thats one quick snip fix.
Also I dont think he muscle is growing over the leather strap, he simply has a strap high on his forarm and his bicep is pressing up on it. If you have ever given blood they put that tape around arm and if you bring your arm up your bicep covers it.
I think its executed well.
This picture is the closest thing I could find on the above (probably googling the wrong thing) and is what I expect to happen and is what happens to me with a strap in that position.
Spoiler:
I know the demon has bigger muscle but it looks off to me. Like the muscle is either sucking in the strap (ouch) or the muscle is grown over the strap (ouch).
He's had his wrists slapped for constant off topic in this thread, so now he's trolling.
Sure but there's a bottom line of so much sigmarines and moar khorne is not exactly exciting either. Even if the former weren't, as someone from BOLS more eloquent than me put it, the Derpcast Derpdederpers with Derp Derpestant and Derpictor leading Derpicars with Derpstorm Derpbows and I liked them, I would still be bored to death at this point. It's all around a bit crappy release imo.
Formosa wrote: If that eye monster is where slaanesh models are going then I'm interested, so far slaanesh has been the most dull of the gods in terms of models.
I'd agree but the pallete and face don't suggest tzeench, no blues or wierd symbols, or magic bits and bobs, it looks strangely slaanesh, but we shall soon see, I hope we're both right! As each would be ok in my books!
The eye monster is definitely a cool piece of concept art, something i didnt expect from gw that's for sure. I suspect it has to do with tzeentch. Looks like a magic user kinda, and the multiple eyes are tzeentch's shtick.
Khorne model is freakin sweet too. I wish these kits corresponded to some rules in 40k, too.
I know GW weapons (and most other Fantasy manufacturers weapons for that matter) have always been far larger than the real stuff and I realize that there are aestetical and practial reasons for it.
But this one crosses the invisible line towards Warmachine-esqe sillyness. My suspention of disbelief can't handle it.
Kinda like his other weapon but overall the model feels uninspired. The artwork of the guy with many eyes has potential though. Hopefully he'll get a model someday.
Just when I thought GW couldn't get any worse, they release something like this. Do they not have any artists left that have studied human anatomy? Or even seen a human being before?
A Tzeentchi champion model for this guy too maybe? Purely speculation at this point, but since GW seems to be on a "artwork of products only" vibe lately, it seems plausible?
Almost looks like a Khorne worshiper turned to Tzeentch. Looses his old eyes and new ones grow out of the helmet? Chaos champions switching gods isn't unheard of in the old fluff.
Really liking this one, pretty sure its not suppose to look normal and its not suppose to have human anatomy, its a daemon.
For me the less human they look the better, ive seen enough shiny gold sigmars to last me a lifetime, im glad we got to chaos, it could be better, but it looks as khornate as you can get even more so if you add the missing skulls !
Looking forward to seeing more as well if that picture is based on a model.
Swastakowey wrote: His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Yeah, I have no problem with the size of the weapon (Warhammer and 40K have always had stupidly-oversized weapons) but the fact that he has no way to wield it two-handed did immediately jump out.
MongooseMatt wrote: Exalted Deathbringer for Khorne announced for next week;
This is the first multi-part plastic character for the Khorne Bloodbound, this is truly terrifying model holding a huge Runious Axe and ready to take on the forces of the Stormcast Eternals it will make a great addition to any customers Bloodbound force.
Also, a whole bunch of Nurgle units are getting repackaged/re-based.
Please... don't look like this (pretty please GW?):
A head swap and a Bloodletter sword and that would make a nifty Herald of Khorne
Swastakowey wrote: His stupidly large (like stupidly stupidly large) ax is clearly two handed, but he has another weapon attached to his other arm with an inbuilt handle? Ignoring the fact that the ax is too big (he is demon so magic or something?) how on earth does he use his other and with the ax.
Yeah, I have no problem with the size of the weapon (Warhammer and 40K have always had stupidly-oversized weapons) but the fact that he has no way to wield it two-handed did immediately jump out.
Other than that, it's a cracking miniature.
Im probably being too picky, but I do like to inspect models with scrutiny. It's part of the fun when buying models. I do feel like they strapped 2 of the wrong arms on the model though.
PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote: Ok, the Deathbringer of Khorne looks awesome, Definitely getting a couple for 40K Daemonkin. (I'll let you guess what i'm going to do with them)
But dang, that Tzeentch/Slaaneshi artwork... definitely came out of left field GW, definitely from left field.
I expect to see it In model form soon!
I don't want to sound rude here... but why get 2? They have the same pose and the same everything. Considering it is a character style model it seems kind of weird to have 2 clone models doing the exact same thing on the table. Unless you plan on changing it with green stuff etc. It's the same reason I made my own commissars a while ago, because I didn't want the same few GW ones being duplicates in the army.
PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote: Ok, the Deathbringer of Khorne looks awesome, Definitely getting a couple for 40K Daemonkin. (I'll let you guess what i'm going to do with them)
But dang, that Tzeentch/Slaaneshi artwork... definitely came out of left field GW, definitely from left field.
I expect to see it In model form soon!
I don't want to sound rude here... but why get 2? They have the same pose and the same everything. Considering it is a character style model it seems kind of weird to have 2 clone models doing the exact same thing on the table. Unless you plan on changing it with green stuff etc. It's the same reason I made my own commissars a while ago, because I didn't want the same few GW ones being duplicates in the army.
Obviously i'm going to convert them into a set of Custom Daemon "Lieutenants" for my Daemonkin Army. IE Heralds/Lords of Chaos with Daemonic Gifts.
Chopxsticks wrote: Model is amazing. I dont like how tall the hair thing is, but really thats one quick snip fix.
Also I dont think he muscle is growing over the leather strap, he simply has a strap high on his forarm and his bicep is pressing up on it. If you have ever given blood they put that tape around arm and if you bring your arm up your bicep covers it.
I think its executed well.
It almost looks like the strap is laced through his arm if you look at the top of the bicep.
That Khorne guy is amazing! Could've been a Mierce model, and an instant classic imo. Also, it is professionally painted and not slapped together in a couple of hours like so many GW paint jobs these days. Love be it, simply love it.
Nice trend -- it would be great if they had this for every faction!
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. Great weapon arms are somewhat better. Looks like I might build them all armed with great weapons.
