Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
That visit to the End was probably the highest number of people on the server at one time for months. The average you'll see at the moment is three or four, and without drive and communication I wouldn't imagine those numbers could be directed anywhere. Skype has been brought up before, as has there been a few youtube videos made based on the server, but neither are a catch all solutions (the former especially having the fault of not being accessible or agreeable to everyone).
Wyrmalla wrote: Well its certainly not Nazi concentration camp level...
Sooo, don't do it? Dang, well, I might just go ahead and build it anyway, minus the dynamite or any signs inviting people to damage it... for now.
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Is digital presence really that important to a group project? That hadn't crossed my mind. Living in Australia generally means being on the same time as anyone is simply happenstance. I guess that's why I want instructions on the Forum and no one says anything to anyone. Also because they're probably not the management & planning type.
I'll gladly help if you think it's worth the time to know what you want and type it. As long as you're not trying to make a Grey Mesa or Beanland of course.
Unrelated, I found a few Water Temples when I explored the South area. One of them blew up my boat before I noticed it.
1, 2, 3, 4 If anyone wants one. Hmm, that might be a good place to make a Fortress Island.
Anvildude wrote: Different servers have different feels to them. KFPerin's server (the first I was ever on) had people all spread out, but what kept on happening was one person found a neat spot to build, made their house, constructed an extension of the server-wide pathway/roadway system, then suddenly a whole town would spring up, when everyone went to build their own house there.
Then someone tired of that town would move somewhere else, build a house, build a path, then another town springs up as everyone abandons their previous house.
It was very cyclic and sprawling and nomadic, and it just happened. There was a PVP world (which was pretty cool) as well, where people built more 'dangerous' bases.
Then there's other servers which are more adventerous, and others which are less- for example, MindCrap is all about cooperative building of a single 'city' area- though it's only 3 people, making that a little easier. Direwolf's server (or whoevers) tends to be about people building fancy bases that are designed around resource accumulation/showing off, and the upkeep and progression of personal power- with a network of portals or link books so folks can do occasional tours and bum stuff off other people. Hermitcraft is the most similar to ours, where people find their 'area' and build there, but it has the Hermiton towns (which are essentially showcases of building talent- people don't really live there, I think) which work as a market hub for resource trading, and there's the supermassive community projects like the Iron Foundry. Attack of the B-Team is all about pranking people and making jokes/playing roles.
DakkaDakkaCraft has a dozen people who do megabuilds in Survival. Honestly, a lot of our stuff is super impressive in its own right, even (or especially) compared to what you generally see on YouTube or other servers- we regularly run out of Cobblestone, we build so big. But things like Chasmholm, Ma55sterFett's caverns, Abso's cathedral(s), the (increasingly unsuitably named) Grey Mesa, the Titans, the Manor, Dark's Castle and half a dozen other locations and builds that are easily spotted at max distance on the map are sort of a feature of our server. Builds that get people to go 'Wow' when they see them- and we have the Nether Network for travel when we want to visit others. But I don't think we're a 'teambuild' sort of server.
By all means, go ahead and start on a 'community project' if you want- but I guarantee that, even if there's some early interest, after actual groundbreaking there's only going to be one, or maybe two people actually working on it. That's not a bad thing, but I think it's how our server is.
What we [i]could[/li] do as a 'community' thing, would be to organize a massive tour. Figure out a list of the major sightseeing locations and organize a time/day when a lot of people can be on- then we start at Spawn (loaded up with foodstuffs) and travel as a group from place to place.
Oh I agree!
I just was suggesting it mostly because we did have sururbia and we haven't had any project like that on the new server. We could do a new sururbia or something.
Because right now we have no community interaction as much as we should be having.
I am just suggesting ideas as currently there is very few interaction at spawn. And spawn is rarely used.
We still need to get the enderfarm up. (But thats sky slashers job)
We need to redo parts of spawn and possibly make a new suburbia. That is bigger and better and can accommodate the new players on the server.
We do have pretty big projects and they pretty much make mindcrack go. "Wait what?"
It would be cool to see the server have more impressive builds at spawn and around that area. So the new players know what they are going up to.
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Yeah I've noticed that. Maybe its because we are all from different countries. Thats why we rarely can all get on at the same time.
I mean we could have long term projects. Everyone seems to be doing personal projects which is fine but we have very little interaction in the community other than in chat.
Lotet wrote: I'm all for being part of a community project. My problem isn't so much enthusiasm (which I never have much of for anything), it's more that no one has neither a plan nor goal.
If I could get more instructions than:
"I'm sure you know what to do"
or
"build an arena here"
then I might actually start stomping around on build sites and do some construction. Heck, if you don't want to do that, just put some markers down and give me an area you want to level or tell me what resources you you want the most. I've got a cobblestone farm that I use while doing other stuff on the computer so that shouldn't be much of a problem. Any common resource can be requested.
Even just giving me a picture of what someone else made can make a lot of difference for me. Though I guess I should mention I prefer Style over Scale, which makes the jobs seem easier to finish in the long run.
Just, you know, give me confidence that you have a vision or something and I'll do my part.
Hmm, so, yeah, was there anything you had in mind or was this just a passing thought?
Otherwise I might just do what Shadow Captain Edithae made me think and make the White House out of White Clay (even though it's slightly pink) and rig it with dynamite... that's not offensive is it? I don't want to get banned...
Haha. We could blow up the British Houses of Parliament too to celebrate Guy Fawkes Night tomorrow.
This is where Darkinnit steps in and posts links to the various planned groups projects which litter this thread. People tend to be good at coming up with ideas, its the long term implementation which falters. If anything something on a smaller scale like a smattering of buildings would be more plausible, but then again the same conditions apply, and well we already have plenty of those, just far away from each other. If you want to be concise maybe make small additions to the area around the spawn, and well hell, at least then new people could at least find it (the same goes for existing users too. I hate travelling to other people's places as the tunnel system, despite being better than the last one, is inherently difficult for me to bother getting my head around usually).
Wyrmalla wrote: This is where Darkinnit steps in and posts links to the various planned groups projects which litter this thread. People tend to be good at coming up with ideas, its the long term implementation which falters. If anything something on a smaller scale like a smattering of buildings would be more plausible, but then again the same conditions apply, and well we already have plenty of those, just far away from each other. If you want to be concise maybe make small additions to the area around the spawn, and well hell, at least then new people could at least find it (the same goes for existing users too. I hate travelling to other people's places as the tunnel system, despite being better than the last one, is inherently difficult for me to bother getting my head around usually).
yeah thats why I suggest a sururbia esque place. As it would invite people for just small group project. And basically have people create a place that we can all go to. Because the old sururbia is showing its age. With the addition of new materials it could be interesting to see everyones new styles. We could literally have it next door to sururbia so it could basically be a before and after and showing the progression of skill of our server. I am not asking for a massive group project. Just a project. That people could just do at any time and doesn't take a huge investment.
I mean I plan on using some of my resources to create a redstone museum. As I am quite competent with redstone. As some people here know. As alot of people have copied my designs for my doors XD
Wyrmalla wrote: This is where Darkinnit steps in and posts links to the various planned groups projects which litter this thread. People tend to be good at coming up with ideas, its the long term implementation which falters. If anything something on a smaller scale like a smattering of buildings would be more plausible, but then again the same conditions apply, and well we already have plenty of those, just far away from each other. If you want to be concise maybe make small additions to the area around the spawn, and well hell, at least then new people could at least find it (the same goes for existing users too. I hate travelling to other people's places as the tunnel system, despite being better than the last one, is inherently difficult for me to bother getting my head around usually).
yeah thats why I suggest a sururbia esque place. As it would invite people for just small group project. And basically have people create a place that we can all go to. Because the old sururbia is showing its age. With the addition of new materials it could be interesting to see everyones new styles. We could literally have it next door to sururbia so it could basically be a before and after and showing the progression of skill of our server. I am not asking for a massive group project. Just a project. That people could just do at any time and doesn't take a huge investment.
I mean I plan on using some of my resources to create a redstone museum. As I am quite competent with redstone. As some people here know. As alot of people have copied my designs for my doors XD
A redstone museum sounds like a cool idea. We could dig out some giant chambers underneath the spawn zone.
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: I started building a sort of communal settlement or hub in the jungle, north of the portal. Anyone is welcome to build there and expand on it.
Wyrmalla wrote: This is where Darkinnit steps in and posts links to the various planned groups projects which litter this thread. People tend to be good at coming up with ideas, its the long term implementation which falters. If anything something on a smaller scale like a smattering of buildings would be more plausible, but then again the same conditions apply, and well we already have plenty of those, just far away from each other. If you want to be concise maybe make small additions to the area around the spawn, and well hell, at least then new people could at least find it (the same goes for existing users too. I hate travelling to other people's places as the tunnel system, despite being better than the last one, is inherently difficult for me to bother getting my head around usually).
yeah thats why I suggest a sururbia esque place. As it would invite people for just small group project. And basically have people create a place that we can all go to. Because the old sururbia is showing its age. With the addition of new materials it could be interesting to see everyones new styles. We could literally have it next door to sururbia so it could basically be a before and after and showing the progression of skill of our server. I am not asking for a massive group project. Just a project. That people could just do at any time and doesn't take a huge investment.
I mean I plan on using some of my resources to create a redstone museum. As I am quite competent with redstone. As some people here know. As alot of people have copied my designs for my doors XD
A redstone museum sounds like a cool idea. We could dig out some giant chambers underneath the spawn zone.
Problem! That jungle is really far away! and nowhere near close to spawn. But I could help with it. Once I complete the wall around my city I will get there because I like building homes within trees.
But I will i use dark wood for that and get my collection cobwebs and make an older area of the jungle.
In a way, a lot of what you're having an issue with could be (or could 'have' been) solved if people didn't stick to that 'You can't build within viewing distance of me! Whaa, whaa, I claimed this biome for myself!' thing.
I have, I think, like, 3 or 4 people who have their bases inside the walls of the Mesa- granted, they don't play that much anymore, but I was, and am, perfectly happy building around/over/through other people's projects, and having them do the same to me. It's just that nobody sticks around with that.
And I know Sleit and I (and some others) were talking about linking up all the massive castles/strongholds on the East side of the map, both with a huge underground railway system and simply through continual 'urban sprawl' type expansion.
So this happened. I recently was working on something and I was cutting down a tree and then tried running away then I disconnected. And I ran into the glitch I am currently having where it spawns a copy of myself. Thinking to myself nothing will happen as the zombies had stopped moving as well. I quite out of the game waiting two minutes. And then I spawn back in and immedately die.
No big deal right? Right. So I start going back to where I died, and then I get that horrible portal glitch. And then I disconnect on purpose because I am stuck in a wall. I then have the same cloning glitch except my clone was stuck in the portal. And I am pulled back and forth. so All my stuff despawns because I spent 8 minutes trying to get on, but I kept getting the same error :/
Anvildude wrote: In a way, a lot of what you're having an issue with could be (or could 'have' been) solved if people didn't stick to that 'You can't build within viewing distance of me! Whaa, whaa, I claimed this biome for myself!' thing.
I have, I think, like, 3 or 4 people who have their bases inside the walls of the Mesa- granted, they don't play that much anymore, but I was, and am, perfectly happy building around/over/through other people's projects, and having them do the same to me. It's just that nobody sticks around with that.
And I know Sleit and I (and some others) were talking about linking up all the massive castles/strongholds on the East side of the map, both with a huge underground railway system and simply through continual 'urban sprawl' type expansion.
I've got several people still at my place.
We had some more people at my place on the old map, and while the builds weren't always as nice... it was a bit of a charm, really. You could always run into people!
Lotet wrote: Otherwise I might just do what Shadow Captain Edithae made me think and make the White House out of White Clay (even though it's slightly pink) and rig it with dynamite... that's not offensive is it? I don't want to get banned...
Doesn't Hollywood do that at least once a year? Go for it
Asherian Command wrote: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/190516/unable-to-locate-sign
So this happened.
This is interesting. I'll look into it. If anyone else is getting strange error messages like this, do let me know.
Yeah I've noticed that. Maybe its because we are all from different countries. Thats why we rarely can all get on at the same time.
I mean we could have long term projects. Everyone seems to be doing personal projects which is fine but we have very little interaction in the community other than in chat.
I dont think time zones are such an issue from a uk perspective if your playing late evening as generally were around level with the American/Canadian guys late afternoon then. However I only see Lotet when I log in during the day as im guessing its evening for him.
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Thanks for putting me up in your place.
I need another big project to dump my stone into. it's starting to pile up now that the wall is done
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Thanks for putting me up in your place.
I need another big project to dump my stone into. it's starting to pile up now that the wall is done
depending on where you guys live you could connect it to spawn and or the vault. (my pet project)
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Thanks for putting me up in your place.
I need another big project to dump my stone into. it's starting to pile up now that the wall is done
depending on where you guys live you could connect it to spawn and or the vault. (my pet project)
You want to connect up the wall to the spawn?
There's some people living between us & spawn that might object.
Optio wrote: Up until Sir Ralphy moved in with me and then built close buy, I dont think I had seen another player physically for a month. It is just the way of the server. You might get a couple of people working together every so often like mel and lustis and me and Ralphy a bit but the term Group Project seems to get used a lot and never happens.
Thanks for putting me up in your place.
I need another big project to dump my stone into. it's starting to pile up now that the wall is done
depending on where you guys live you could connect it to spawn and or the vault. (my pet project)
You want to connect up the wall to the spawn?
There's some people living between us & spawn that might object.
Where is your vault?
Were other here: https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-627/64/-1621/-4/0/0 so we are not that far from spawn compared to some. It would not be too big a job to build a road to spawn as well, Might be worth building it from the gatehouse this time?
I'm quite keen on the idea of a spawn town but I fear that if we were to create one now it would swiftly become a ghost town unless we used it for trading purposes ... but there doesn't seem to be a particularly active trade culture on the server. That's fine but it does mean that a "Commercial District" is pretty much doomed to failure.
What tended to happen on both Mindrack and Hermitcraft was that a new town would be set up when new content became available in the game. A communal hub where everyone would build a mini-base and then move out from there to a main base location. We don't seem to have that culture here but it makes more sense to me than building at spawn.
Binidj wrote: I'm quite keen on the idea of a spawn town but I fear that if we were to create one now it would swiftly become a ghost town unless we used it for trading purposes ... but there doesn't seem to be a particularly active trade culture on the server. That's fine but it does mean that a "Commercial District" is pretty much doomed to failure.
(Note, I don't play on the server due to time constraints, used to play monster but not much anymore)
I find that's a problem with Minecraft in general, because everyone is able to build a super-efficient means of getting something they require (e.g. food, cobble, sugar cane) and after a certain point (diamond enchanted armour and tools) or using 'ultra efficient' techniques, even mining becomes a trivial task, multiplayer minecraft is essentially 'single player minecraft with a chat function'
If multiplayer had a job system, and spelunking was actually a thing, it would be a lot more entertaining, can you imagine getting a party together to explore a cave system together, splitting the loot at the end, having well-armed players on guard, while less-equipped folks with picks (but more inventory space) collect the ores/plug lava flows/etc, while a designated minecarter lays track and sends carts to the surface.
It wouldn't happen, as everyone can go 1000m from spawn, dig down to y-level 10, start a mine using the efficient techniques found on google, then spend the rest of the game building with impunity.
You want some decent armour and when they lock onto you you either need to hurt them or hide behind something to break the lock. Avoid approaching them in a corridor with no where to hide as well. I learnt that the painful way.
Well, do to real life responsibilities I have not been able to log on in quite some time, and cannot foresee being able to do anything meaningful in the near future. anybody who wants to loot my place (about x4000 z4000) feel free to do so.
Big Mek Dattrukk wrote: Well, do to real life responsibilities I have not been able to log on in quite some time, and cannot foresee being able to do anything meaningful in the near future. anybody who wants to loot my place (about x4000 z4000) feel free to do so.
Are you sure? Like absolutely sure? I don't want to take anything unless you are absolutely positive about this.
If you are sure then: Thanks! I could care less about the actual loot I just love looting and ransacking stuff. If anyone else want's a share of the loot PM me.
Hmn, was it a coincidence that my home on the new server's in the exact position it was on the previous one? I thought I just picked any old savanna, or well Darkinnit did at least.
The last time I was there there was so many pigs I had to kill a good few just so I could go in without them all running out the door... I don't think I fed many though (I was there more for the cows), so unless someone else was there after me the issue was actually worse. 0.0
All those animals at Spawn were probably mostly me. Sorry. I would often go inside the chicken pen, pick up a stack to roast then bombard them with the eggs I picked up. I guess that resulted in making more than I collected. I realize it got to the point where they were so packed in it would be impossible to count them even if you had a screenshot.
But 150 pigs? I thought it was more like 50, even though I think 20 is a better number. I usually feed them then slay a bunch of the adults.
EDIT: Speaking of lag. I decided to visit this place since it's so close to the White House I'm building, but the moment I walk past the sign here that says "speak friend and enter" it starts to slow down immensely. I can walk back and forth and the speed will go up and down. Speaking 'friend' does not help, unless I need to say it in Elvish or some such.
https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-407/64/-75/max/0/0
EDIT: Speaking of lag. I decided to visit this place since it's so close to the White House I'm building, but the moment I walk past the sign here that says "speak friend and enter" it starts to slow down immensely. I can walk back and forth and the speed will go up and down. Speaking 'friend' does not help, unless I need to say it in Elvish or some such.
https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-407/64/-75/max/0/0
Overlord Thraka wrote: Again, thanks! I'd really like to be able to go to spawn and farm the animals there.
I guess dark already solved that problem, but it was the animals that were generating the lag. There were so many chickens, my god...I just jumped in there and started swinging, came out with a full stack of chicken and barely made a dent in their numbers. Also my inventory space was filled entirely with eggs.
Probably should have killed a lot more of them but I didn't want to get greedy, lol.
Lotet wrote: I do. I was the one who coloured the sheep and I tried to make at least 2 of each colour. Someone else came along and made extras though.
Why would you reduce the variety?
But if you really want to get rid of those colours then go ahead.
there was 5 missing colors when I got there a little bit ago. I bred the missing colors so you're back to two of every color. Can we make pens and separate them by color? and get at least 5 of every color?
Lotet wrote: I do. I was the one who coloured the sheep and I tried to make at least 2 of each colour. Someone else came along and made extras though.
Why would you reduce the variety?
But if you really want to get rid of those colours then go ahead.
It's not like that any more. It's a bit of a mess. some colors are missing, and for some there is only one. Probably because of people breeding then killing for xp or something.
Maybe go for the way the old server had it, with a number of different pens for each different colour. Having one or two of a colour's hardly efficient if you're trying to collect a load of the same block (though in that regard you may want to just make your own sheep pen at home).
This is what the old one looked like if that's anything to go by. I mean you could have a pen for every colour, but that might be excessive. That one just had the main colours in it instead (it may have been put together before the fancier dyes were even implemented, but I don't know whenever that was).
Wyrmalla wrote: This is what the old one looked like if that's anything to go by. I mean you could have a pen for every colour, but that might be excessive. That one just had the main colours in it instead (it may have been put together before the fancier dyes were even implemented, but I don't know whenever that was).
That's very cool, my version is rather more traditional but doesn't take up too much space. Mind you, space isn't really an issue at spawn is it so ...
Lotet wrote: EDIT: Speaking of lag. I decided to visit this place since it's so close to the White House I'm building, but the moment I walk past the sign here that says "speak friend and enter" it starts to slow down immensely. I can walk back and forth and the speed will go up and down. Speaking 'friend' does not help, unless I need to say it in Elvish or some such.
https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-407/64/-75/max/0/0
I'd forgotten you'd mentioned this. I should have visited there earlier because that house had over 1000 chickens in its basement. It's what has been the source of sporadic lag on the server for some time.
I've now culled the chickens and the lag is no more. To whoever owns this house, you can repopulate it as long as you don't have it set to auto-dispense eggs without some method of also auto-killing the chickens. For now I have disabled the redstone connected to the dispenser.
To others on the server, please don't make infinite-mob generators (whether they are chickens, villagers, or other things), as it often leads to lag on the server when left unattended.
you couldn't reach the sheep in the back to sheer them, and the ones in front tossed their wool towards the back. The sheep like escaping when the gates open so I put carpet on the fences so you can get all the sheep.
Next I put a dirt row down the walk ways, if the middle sheep ate all the grass there was no way for it to regrow.
We set up an apocalypse style server for a zombie hunting minigame. It uses Flan's gun mods and the Cityworld generation mods, plus a few things that make zombie hordes much tougher. The kick off is 5pm NZ time, about 11pm Eastern.
Augh, I've lost 2 horse in the Nether near the spawn this week. One of them just an hour ago. The only person that was on between the last time I saw it and the time I realized it was missing was Co'tor Shas. Who tells me he never saw it. (along with some suspicious behavior )
Is there a glitch along those lines? Considering there's a couple of cows near my own nether portal on a mid-air bridge, it seems unlikely.
Lotet wrote: Augh, I've lost 2 horse in the Nether near the spawn this week. One of them just an hour ago. The only person that was on between the last time I saw it and the time I realized it was missing was Co'tor Shas. Who tells me he never saw it. (along with some suspicious behavior )
Is there a glitch along those lines? Considering there's a couple of cows near my own nether portal on a mid-air bridge, it seems unlikely.
Maybe stop leaving them there then? I did see one of the two new ones wondering out of the pen earlier this morning. Haven't been on since though.
I saw a brown horse named "Lotet" wandering around the Nether spawn for the past few days, and another one that appeared to be corralled but that's all I've seen of them.
Really nice job on the sheep barn, by the way. Not sure who was responsible for it but it's much nicer looking and way more "efficient" than the previous sheep pen.
The corral was probably too small for two horse I suppose. But I don't understand how both could get out or why any of them would vanish on their own. Like I said, I have two nether cows that have been hanging out there for months without any problems.
I've just made a shelter at the spawn. My new horse is probably the fastest and has 10 hearts of health, which looks nicer. Though I might widen the portal room by a little bit, since I can't get a horse in and out of it without removing a couple of stone slabs.
Also I'm going to make sure I name every horse I bring to the spawn, just in case.
FYI, there is a Iron farm at spawn, feel free to help yourself. When you see it, look for the roses and the iron block, they mark the steps down to the chest.
sirlynchmob wrote: FYI, there is a Iron farm at spawn, feel free to help yourself. When you see it, look for the roses and the iron block, they mark the steps down to the chest.
It's much appreciated, thanks... wait, wasn't this Lady Dria's work? In any case, I've been swiping most of the iron that gets made while I stay there, a perk of building nearby, which of course leaves everything that was made before I get there.
sirlynchmob wrote: FYI, there is a Iron farm at spawn, feel free to help yourself. When you see it, look for the roses and the iron block, they mark the steps down to the chest.
It's much appreciated, thanks... wait, wasn't this Lady Dria's work? In any case, I've been swiping most of the iron that gets made while I stay there, a perk of building nearby, which of course leaves everything that was made before I get there.
It was her work yes, with help, but she's not on dakka. it was pointed out that if you didn't know what it was, you'd never realize there was free iron down there. So I just wanted to bring it to peoples attention that it is producing iron.
She's supposed to increase the storage area and make the path down more obvious, but I'm not sure when she plans on getting to it.
Hey folks, I was wondering if, next time I'm on tonight (probably gonna ask this in chat, too) if anyone would be willing to take some 360 screenshots of my current skin for me? I'd do it myself, but you know you can only really get the front and back from yourself.
I'm doing a skin swap, and I want to save the old one in case I ever want to switch back to it, but I made it, wow, 5, 6 years ago? And didn't save the file through computer transfers.
Or if anyone knows how to pull a skin file back off Minecraft, that'd be handy too.
Anvildude wrote: I might have to take you up on that. I had a small handful of silk touch stone picks I was using, but they've been blown up and such since then.
Whatchoo doing with your quarry, Edithae?
Besides stockpiling the stone, dirt and gravel that I dig up for future construction projects, I'll be using the quarry as a central hub for a network of Diamond mines - crisscrossing tunnels that search through every single layer of a chunk until the Diamond vein in that chunk is discovered. Every chunk contains one vein of Diamond below Y=15. When you find it, mark that chunk as tapped out, and move onto the next chunk.
Its a very efficient if labour intensive way of mining for Diamond. You're absolutely guaranteed* to find Diamond, if you're patient and thorough.
*except when caves (empty air) or lava lakes blocks the generation of a diamond within a chunk. But generally speaking, if you're tunneling through solid rock, you will find diamond.
Natural generation
Diamond ore only appears at Y level 15 and below, and can be found in veins of 3–9. One diamond ore vein generates per chunk; this vein or part of it may be overwritten by generated structures such as caves, leaving you without any diamonds in said chunk also, because of the way chunks are populated the vein "belonging" to a chunk can actually be generated in the neighboring chunk leading to some chunks with two veins. There is an average of 3.097 diamond ore per chunk-sized area. The highest concentration of diamonds occurs between levels 5–12. Because of the lava lakes, there is slightly less diamond ore in the middle of that range (around layer 9).
Also, having a giant hole in the ground that extends down to bed rock is cool. At some point I'll build a deep pool of water at the bottom so I can jump down instead of taking the stairs.
Could be for decoration. Diamond blocks are swanky.
Some people also prefer mining to trading.
Personally, I think you should get a circle generator going and make your giant hole in the ground a circular pit instead of square. I mean, I have nothing against square (obviously) but square pits are pretty common, while making it circular will make it easier for you to use it as the basis of a future project- maybe have some sort of spire in the center eventually, and have a balcony/ledge based town built up around the edges.
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: Hey folks, I've been working on a new area for spawn (more on that later.)
I've also set up a project board, feel free to tackle any of the items listed on there, or make your own! I can donate resources within reason.
Please don't build in the area I've recently expanded though. I've got plans for most of that space.
If we could get 4-16 farmer type traders that have never been traded with, we can replace the farmers in the iron farm and plant carrots & potatoes and they'll drop enough for everyone, and that way we don't need separate farms for them.
If you need oak or birch for a project let me know and I'll run them through my tree farm
imo, the charcoal machine should probably be between the tree farm & foundry, if were going to start making lots of it, might as well put it where it's used. Did you just want a furnace setup like the one I built? or did you want to go big, really big, and do the wither fully automatic tree & charcoal farm?
were you thinking glow stone for the lights around spawn? or redstone lights? I can donate a stack of either.
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: Hey folks, I've been working on a new area for spawn (more on that later.)
I've also set up a project board, feel free to tackle any of the items listed on there, or make your own! I can donate resources within reason.
Please don't build in the area I've recently expanded though. I've got plans for most of that space.
If we could get 4-16 farmer type traders that have never been traded with, we can replace the farmers in the iron farm and plant carrots & potatoes and they'll drop enough for everyone, and that way we don't need separate farms for them.
If you need oak or birch for a project let me know and I'll run them through my tree farm
imo, the charcoal machine should probably be between the tree farm & foundry, if were going to start making lots of it, might as well put it where it's used. Did you just want a furnace setup like the one I built? or did you want to go big, really big, and do the wither fully automatic tree & charcoal farm?
were you thinking glow stone for the lights around spawn? or redstone lights? I can donate a stack of either.
I'm good on oak and birch. More exotic wood like jungle, dark oak, and acacia are welcome though. I've been trying to vary my buildings more. Too much stone brick and oak wood makes Steve a dull builder.
Charcoal machine doesn't have to be anything spectacular, just enough that if someone needs something cooked at spawn they don't have to dig warrens to get coal.
As for lighting, I'm still not really sure. At least for the area I'm working on, I think I want to get all the buildings/plots and roads set up before I decide. At the moment I'm torn between a one or two high block coming from the ground or a more traditional 'street lamp' style.
Desubot wrote: Why not a lava furnace instead? just link into the nether or underground for unlimited supplies
Oh also if you need sea lanterns for lighting they are always available.
That's a thought I had too. Charcoal has the advantage of being renewable and cheap, and the generator design I've used in the past can just be loaded and forgotten about. However, if someone wants to gather a bunch of buckets (we have an iron farm!) and just fill some chests with lava, I certainly wouldn't complain. Just not sure how many people do mass-smelting at spawn.
I have quite a few stacks of sea lanterns, and maybe it's just me, but I feel like they only go well with certain building materials. Redstone lamps look better with a much larger variety of materials.
They last forever and its easy to repair if you have a exp grinder.
Is that still true with the new repair rules? I haven't tried with iron equipment but with diamond items I only get about 4 repairs before it reaches a limit.
Also it's worth bearing in mind that we have (at least) one Blaze Grinder and therefore a surfeit of blaze rods which can be used in forges ... in stacks!
They last forever and its easy to repair if you have a exp grinder.
Is that still true with the new repair rules? I haven't tried with iron equipment but with diamond items I only get about 4 repairs before it reaches a limit.
Also it's worth bearing in mind that we have (at least) one Blaze Grinder and therefore a surfeit of blaze rods which can be used in forges ... in stacks!
you should get 5, every time you do something in an anvil it doubles the cost.
from what I understand that if you add a book it doubles, if you add a name tag it doubles, if you repair it it doubles.
What I do is once I have a pick with all the enchantments I like, I fix it til it's to expensive, then make a new pick and combine the new pick with the old to keep the enchantments. It does start off a bit more expensive to repair, but it saves me the enchanting time and fiddling with books time.
I will take all the stone you can possibly give me.
Literally. I managed to use up almost every stack of cobble that Sleitsmithr mined out of his Chasmholm underground, as well as everything that I've mined up from inside the Mesa.
It's the Mesa. It shall be a towering bastion of rock with sprawling deep caverns below, crowned by a spire of ice and glass.
Seriously. You should see the basement.
Those walls aren't solid, btw. They're pillars. However, the pillars do go down with solid stone to the native rocks. No building on dirt for me.
The innermost keep was initially a mountain waaay back on the first server I joined, two server resets ago, that Dark's been nicely pulling across for me as I continue to work on it.
And it's really only one of about 5 or so projects of similar scale on this server. Sleitsmithr's Chasmholm is absolutely massive in scope, spanning a system of 5 underground Ravines to the North of me. Ma55terfett's place is similarly massive to the South of me, and mostly made of Netherbrick.
Grundz has his Titan (which my Mesa could potentially stand against!) and there's other similarly huge builds going on elsewhere that I don't even know about, I'm sure.
If you stand on the side you're looking at and face away from it, you'll see a bunch of roses and a Iron block which leads to stairs. Go down and help yourself
sirlynchmob wrote: What I do is once I have a pick with all the enchantments I like, I fix it til it's to expensive, then make a new pick and combine the new pick with the old to keep the enchantments. It does start off a bit more expensive to repair, but it saves me the enchanting time and fiddling with books time.
Why won't this help me with my Efficiency 5, Unbreaking 3 Diamond Pickaxe? It's too expensive no matter what I do. Just placing it on the Anvil with nothing else already gives me a 'Too Expensive!' reply. Man, I really liked that pickaxe. Got me about 6 or 8 large chests of cobble with it.
If you stand on the side you're looking at and face away from it, you'll see a bunch of roses and a Iron block which leads to stairs. Go down and help yourself
sirlynchmob wrote: What I do is once I have a pick with all the enchantments I like, I fix it til it's to expensive, then make a new pick and combine the new pick with the old to keep the enchantments. It does start off a bit more expensive to repair, but it saves me the enchanting time and fiddling with books time.
Why won't this help me with my Efficiency 5, Unbreaking 3 Diamond Pickaxe? It's too expensive no matter what I do. Just placing it on the Anvil with nothing else already gives me a 'Too Expensive!' reply. Man, I really liked that pickaxe. Got me about 6 or 8 large chests of cobble with it.
It should, in the anvil, put a unenchanted diamond pick on the left, and your old one on the right and it should transfer the enchantments and allow a few repairs.
I'd like to invite you all to my place for a house warming party. I'm finally done with my base minus the interior decorating. Come by on sunday the 13th at noon EST for fun & games. Come and explore my tower and flagship.
I'm down the west tunnel with a track to my portal.
Watch me set the roof on fire (literally), and unveil what's probably the biggest portal on the server. It might even set the floor on fire
Try your hand at lockpicking, figure out the combo out of the 512 combinations to the main door and win 10 diamonds. I'm not even sure what it is Until it is open, if you climb up the vines, go to the gate and look for the opening in the glass to get in.
The first 2 rabbits delivered to my zoo and placed in the empty pen, wins 10 diamonds each.
From the top down my tower has it all,
gold farm,
xp farm,
mob farm, enter at your own risk, but if you fall at least the hoppers will catch your stuff
On the main floor, for your viewing pleasure, watch the splat show. I'll leave the mob farm off on sunday but we can still see mobs fall, your FPS will thank me.
Then down from the entrance, we have my ostentatious sorting room, It takes a week to fill up 18 double chests full of zombie meat, bones, string, arrows, and gun powder. The witch drops have been gathering for over a month and I barely have a double chest full.
For sunday only, help yourself to all the meat, bones, arrows, string and powder you can carry. Off from the sorting room, follow the tunnels to the zoo, sugar bowl, and tree farm.
The tree farm is open to the public at all times, I have plenty of oak saplings, birch saplings and bone meal. Just watch the switch settings if you plant oak while it's set to birch you can break it. Please pick up and replace all the saplings and replace the bone meal in the chests behind the machine when done.
Under the sorting level, relax by the the fish tank, watch for villagers to float lazily by.
The lowest floor houses my villager trading hall. DO NOT PUSH ANY BUTTONS. Also please don't trade with the farmers in the mine carts. Do trade with anyone else. Read the signs, I have librarians with every enchantment at it's highest level. Yes they trade level 5 books Bring your own emeralds & books, some can take a stack of emeralds for a book.
If you fall or jump in the hole in the storage room you'll find my mineshafts, you'll need to take the minecart elevator to get back up. Just look up and keep right clicking til your back in the storage room.
And no sneaky getting started on the lock before sunday!
sirlynchmob wrote: It should, in the anvil, put a unenchanted diamond pick on the left, and your old one on the right and it should transfer the enchantments and allow a few repairs.
Anvildude wrote: Yeah- can't repair, but transferrence works a little better. But you have to use another tool instead of just the material.
Still doesn't work.
You can see for yourself the next time you pass through spawn. It's in an item frame on the COBBLOTRON here: https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-164/64/-195/max/0/0 and there's a freshly made diamond pickaxe in the back room on the other end.
Also, man, the beacon got taken down, I was using it to power the COBBLOTRON's mining speed. It was just on the edges of the beacons area of effect and I doubt the beacon will be placed as close if it ever gets rebuilt at spawn.
sirlynchmob wrote: It should, in the anvil, put a unenchanted diamond pick on the left, and your old one on the right and it should transfer the enchantments and allow a few repairs.
Anvildude wrote: Yeah- can't repair, but transferrence works a little better. But you have to use another tool instead of just the material.
Still doesn't work.
You can see for yourself the next time you pass through spawn. It's in an item frame on the COBBLOTRON here: https://www.darkinnit.com/newdakkamap/#/-164/64/-195/max/0/0 and there's a freshly made diamond pickaxe in the back room on the other end.
Also, man, the beacon got taken down, I was using it to power the COBBLOTRON's mining speed. It was just on the edges of the beacons area of effect and I doubt the beacon will be placed as close if it ever gets rebuilt at spawn.
I've never seen that before. I guess just use it til it's gone and start working on a new one.
I do think it's either bugged or still does the double thing. I do have a pick (eff V UnbIII) that refuses to transfer or repair for less than 20 levels.
I've made two holes to bedrock just like that.
Mine are more Square though
I built a Armory at Spawn. There's a large supply of Mob drop Junk Armor, feel free to add more from your own collections
Instead of the frames in the middle, you should put in a equipping station. you step in the spot, push a button, get 4 pieces of random armor to go running around in.
I've only seen some on the edge of the map. I was out exploring and I found some. I thought they'd spawn in all the plains biomes but I haven't seen any near my house.
Dark, If someone builds a Bunny pen at spawn would you use spawn eggs in it?
I tried to get some bunnies to the spawn, I got some from the south but one got lit on fire and the other killed itself walking down stairs around here. There's a bunny in the cow pen there, but it's useless on its own.
Keep that in mind if the nether portal you want to use to transport them is down a stair case, or a hill, the move fast and crazy when they chase your carrots. They leap far and hurt themselves.
They're all over the place in newly spawned areas after 1.8, I see them all the time, they're just so damn far away.
Great, maybe they could bring one or two over. I just placed a rabbit corral where the chicken pen used to be. It has Black&White, Cream and Black rabbits. Not very many though.
Anvildude wrote: Ralphy and Dria have some in their zoo. Only the brown ones, though.
I have the cream ones. Maybe not for long though, they're getting annoying. If you put carpet on the fence around them, they can get over the fence. I then built the fence 2 high and they're still escapping.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'd like to thank everyone who showed up yesterday. That leaf fire spread quickly. by the time I was done lighting the 4th side the first two were done burning.
A special thanks to darkinnit who took care of the leaves that didn't burn and the weather control.
What's the outdoor marketplace at the Spawn for? Is it meant to be a place for players or villagers to drop stuff off for trading?
I think I'll take Optio's advice from months ago and start selling my stone and cobble for an emerald per stack. Just because I like emerald, not because I think they're useful. Does that sound like a reasonable price? How about diamond? 6 stacks per diamond? 8 stacks? What sounds fair here?
Lotet wrote: What's the outdoor marketplace at the Spawn for? Is it meant to be a place for players or villagers to drop stuff off for trading?
I think I'll take Optio's advice from months ago and start selling my stone and cobble for an emerald per stack. Just because I like emerald, not because I think they're useful. Does that sound like a reasonable price? How about diamond? 6 stacks per diamond? 8 stacks? What sounds fair here?
It'll be a place for player stores. Once I get the main infrastructure set up, I'll open the area to anyone to build a storefront.
You can set whatever prices you want for your goods!
Hey Dark, I was wondering what you would do if a famous Youtuber contacted us and asked to join the server.
Like say CaptainSparklez asked to join the dakkadakka server what would you response be?
"Sorry CaptainSparklez, you're still quite new to Dakka. We've had trouble with people signing up to Dakka just for the Minecraft server. Ask again in a month or two if you are still here."
Hey Dark, I was wondering what you would do if a famous Youtuber contacted us and asked to join the server.
Like say CaptainSparklez asked to join the dakkadakka server what would you response be?
"Sorry CaptainSparklez, you're still quite new to Dakka. We've had trouble with people signing up to Dakka just for the Minecraft server. Ask again in a month or two if you are still here."
Hey Dark, I was wondering what you would do if a famous Youtuber contacted us and asked to join the server.
Like say CaptainSparklez asked to join the dakkadakka server what would you response be?
"Sorry CaptainSparklez, you're still quite new to Dakka. We've had trouble with people signing up to Dakka just for the Minecraft server. Ask again in a month or two if you are still here."
I had a great laugh at that!
Lets face it. That would be the best response. Can't make exceptions just because someone happens to be famous.
As a Youtuber who hasn't uploaded in almost a year, I'd feel okay vouching for a few of the Yogscast (Martyn more than the rest, since he's the only one of them I'm subbed to ) and NerdCubed, but that's really about it.
I'd do gaming videos myself if A) I had the HDD space and recording equipment, and B) Had the time, inclination, and belief that any of my content would be even a tiny bit interesting.
Hey Dark, I was wondering what you would do if a famous Youtuber contacted us and asked to join the server.
Like say CaptainSparklez asked to join the dakkadakka server what would you response be?
"Sorry CaptainSparklez, you're still quite new to Dakka. We've had trouble with people signing up to Dakka just for the Minecraft server. Ask again in a month or two if you are still here."
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: It'll be a place for player stores. Once I get the main infrastructure set up, I'll open the area to anyone to build a storefront.
You can set whatever prices you want for your goods!
Oops, I already placed 9 small chests worth of Stone/Cobblestone in a stall. I'd like to renovate it to have a lot more storage space, maybe I should just build elsewhere. Though I don't even know if anyone on this server even wants stone or cobble. Or whether they'd have any interest in trading with emeralds, especially enough to buy a full large chest. Well, I guess I could just buy/trade materials from people as well...
For the player trading stalls, it may be helpful to arrange them in a labelled and numbered grid e.g.
A1 - A10
B1 - B10
etc.
Also, if extra storage space is needed, build multiple layers of ladder accessed basements below the stall with the stipulation that players can use all the space within a 16x16 square chunk from surface all the way down to bedrock, but cannot stray outside that 16x16 area.
Well the current 4 stalls have an 11 block radius quarter circle each. Plus there's the stuff underground, like the sewers, and some other digging operations happening there for some reason. So building operations have to be done around all that. Otherwise, 16x16 is plenty of room for me.
Lotet wrote: Well the current 4 stalls have an 11 block radius quarter circle each. Plus there's the stuff underground, like the sewers, and some other digging operations happening there for some reason. So building operations have to be done around all that. Otherwise, 16x16 is plenty of room for me.
Not that I mind anyone using those stalls (they are why I built them), but there will be other space for building.
As I said before, once I've finished adding in everything, you'll be free to build whatever you like (within reason of course).
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: It'll be a place for player stores. Once I get the main infrastructure set up, I'll open the area to anyone to build a storefront.
You can set whatever prices you want for your goods!
Oops, I already placed 9 small chests worth of Stone/Cobblestone in a stall. I'd like to renovate it to have a lot more storage space, maybe I should just build elsewhere. Though I don't even know if anyone on this server even wants stone or cobble. Or whether they'd have any interest in trading with emeralds, especially enough to buy a full large chest. Well, I guess I could just buy/trade materials from people as well...
The problem you're having now is that Sir Ralphy and Lady Dria can basically flood the market with cheap/free resources like cobble and stone.
However, once I've run through Dria's store of stone, I'd be willing to pay an emerald per chestful. Depending on how much I feel like terraforming, maybe even an emerald per double chest of cobble.
In case you haven't realized yet, I use a lot of stone stuff.
Netherbrick would also be something I'd buy, for a limited time, anyways.
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: It'll be a place for player stores. Once I get the main infrastructure set up, I'll open the area to anyone to build a storefront.
You can set whatever prices you want for your goods!
Oops, I already placed 9 small chests worth of Stone/Cobblestone in a stall. I'd like to renovate it to have a lot more storage space, maybe I should just build elsewhere. Though I don't even know if anyone on this server even wants stone or cobble. Or whether they'd have any interest in trading with emeralds, especially enough to buy a full large chest. Well, I guess I could just buy/trade materials from people as well...
The problem you're having now is that Sir Ralphy and Lady Dria can basically flood the market with cheap/free resources like cobble and stone.
However, once I've run through Dria's store of stone, I'd be willing to pay an emerald per chestful. Depending on how much I feel like terraforming, maybe even an emerald per double chest of cobble.
In case you haven't realized yet, I use a lot of stone stuff.
Netherbrick would also be something I'd buy, for a limited time, anyways.
I will admit with building the iron farm at spawn, has devalued iron into being as worthless as stone. So wear some armor already
I did suggest to Dria that she mark the sugar 1 diamond per stack, we got a chuckle out of it but that's not why she built it.
We don't have that much stone, we only have 2 double chests of stone and 3 of cobblestone. Anyone could flood the market with just mining 1 strip a day, or just use the cobblestone generator right next to his stall I could probably flood the market with emeralds and gold though, but I have no interest in doing so, and I might need those blocks for more decorations . I haven't mined in weeks, I just spent 3 days looking around (got the biome achievement) now I'm busy playing with maps right now for decorating, and that should keep me busy for a few more days before I get any new mining done
Heh. You used to have 2 double chests of stone. Dria invited me to take as much as I want, earlier. So I did. I'm afraid I've used it all up already, though.
Seriously- you're still relatively new to the server and build primarily with rarer materials- but a lot of the big projects people have just eat stone like a sprinting Steve eats zombie flesh. That's part of the reason that Sleit and I were discussing rail lines between our bases- to send 10 cart trains of chest carts back and forth with cobblestone and other resources.
Oh yeah, I should probably reduce the prices, as anyone who actually has a desire to get a large amount of stone wouldn't want to have to drop too many emeralds, it'd be a hassle for them to collect. But making this stone costs me 1 Diamond per 32 stacks or so. So the best price I could do is 2 Diamons per large chest and Emeralds are not 1:1 with diamonds, nor are emeralds worth more than diamonds, no matter what the villagers say (and some crazy players). I could go for 1 Emerald per 6 Stacks of stone. Since all you need to do to get an emerald is sell a basket of 20 potatoes or a stack of 30 papers at the trading hall nearby to get an emerald. That's 9 Emeralds for a double chest, so 1 Block of Emerald for 3456 Stone / Cobblestone, doesn't sould like much... oh well, I was giving this stuff away for free before.
Also, I did consider getting nether brick, since my pickaxe chews through netherack like wheat. I just need to find more diamonds, I've run out.
Though I don't expect you to ever actually go buy anything from the stall. But hey, if you want, just take a double chest now, my treat. It's the stall with the green and white roof.
Eh, I feel like doing some diamond mining, it's been a while since I've actually did any underground mining. Plus I've already got another Efficiency 5, Unbreaking 3 Diamond Pickaxe.
I like the shape and design, I might steal those statues for an underground area. But I don't like how the statues are made from the same materials as the wall, making them blend in, in a bad way. Maybe use nether brick or different wood? I don't know what would look best...
Anvildude wrote: Heh. You used to have 2 double chests of stone. Dria invited me to take as much as I want, earlier. So I did. I'm afraid I've used it all up already, though.
Seriously- you're still relatively new to the server and build primarily with rarer materials- but a lot of the big projects people have just eat stone like a sprinting Steve eats zombie flesh. That's part of the reason that Sleit and I were discussing rail lines between our bases- to send 10 cart trains of chest carts back and forth with cobblestone and other resources.
that was from the overflow chests, not the primary storage chests with the lights above them. Please don't do that again.
just go afk at the cobblestone generator with a piece of tape on the mouse and you should have more than enough to keep you busy I'm surprised you guys don't have hundreds of chests of stone somewhere.
sirlynchmob wrote: just go afk at the cobblestone generator with a piece of tape on the mouse and you should have more than enough to keep you busy I'm surprised you guys don't have hundreds of chests of stone somewhere.
I wrote a handy book for this on the COBBLOTRON.
1. F3 + P to prevent the game from auto pausing when you switch windows
2. Make the ALT key the mining key
3. Face the COBBLOTRON's cobblestone and ALT+TAB out of there.
NOTE: might have to have something else open to alt+tab to, like your favorite web browser.
I have plenty of stone and anyone can use the COBBLOTRON to get plenty of stone as well, but getting 6 stacks of stone takes longer than getting 20 carrots, so I'm sure some people might consider harvesting the nearby farms (assuming they've fully grown), getting a few emeralds and buying some, then switching to the COBBLOTRON. When they're done, just make a second harvest, could easily get thousands of stone on top of what you could get from the COBBLOTRON.
Once GangstaMuffin24 is done with the area, I may collect many more chests of stone, maybe some day someone will buy some.
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Darkinnit, when sirlynchy invited us all to his tower I think I recall seeing you wearing a cape. How do you that? Is it a mod, or a skin?
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: Darkinnit, when sirlynchy invited us all to his tower I think I recall seeing you wearing a cape. How do you that? Is it a mod, or a skin?
Dark went to a Minecon
Yeap, I went to the Minecon in Paris in 2012. It was a good excuse to have a holiday in Paris.
Anvildude wrote: Heh. You used to have 2 double chests of stone. Dria invited me to take as much as I want, earlier. So I did. I'm afraid I've used it all up already, though.
Seriously- you're still relatively new to the server and build primarily with rarer materials- but a lot of the big projects people have just eat stone like a sprinting Steve eats zombie flesh. That's part of the reason that Sleit and I were discussing rail lines between our bases- to send 10 cart trains of chest carts back and forth with cobblestone and other resources.
that was from the overflow chests, not the primary storage chests with the lights above them. Please don't do that again.
just go afk at the cobblestone generator with a piece of tape on the mouse and you should have more than enough to keep you busy I'm surprised you guys don't have hundreds of chests of stone somewhere.
Whoop. Sorry bout that. Like I said, Dria told me to help myself, and I thought that the big row of item-fram'd chests was your primary 'grab from here' section. Many apologies. If you'd like me to repay you, I could. Not sure what you'd need, but I could maybe do a 1 for 1.
And like I said- I've used hundreds of chests of stone. That wall you see around my place isn't just on the surface dirt- it goes down to native rock. And each pillar that comprises one of the jags in my wall is solid. 12 blocks per layer of each pillar, times 3 pillars deep, times about 20 or 30 pillars long for each section of wall (the outer curtain wall, anyways), and then go up anywhere from 10 to 30 blocks high? Lots and lots of stone.
Anvildude wrote: Heh. You used to have 2 double chests of stone. Dria invited me to take as much as I want, earlier. So I did. I'm afraid I've used it all up already, though.
Seriously- you're still relatively new to the server and build primarily with rarer materials- but a lot of the big projects people have just eat stone like a sprinting Steve eats zombie flesh. That's part of the reason that Sleit and I were discussing rail lines between our bases- to send 10 cart trains of chest carts back and forth with cobblestone and other resources.
that was from the overflow chests, not the primary storage chests with the lights above them. Please don't do that again.
just go afk at the cobblestone generator with a piece of tape on the mouse and you should have more than enough to keep you busy I'm surprised you guys don't have hundreds of chests of stone somewhere.
Whoop. Sorry bout that. Like I said, Dria told me to help myself, and I thought that the big row of item-fram'd chests was your primary 'grab from here' section. Many apologies. If you'd like me to repay you, I could. Not sure what you'd need, but I could maybe do a 1 for 1.
And like I said- I've used hundreds of chests of stone. That wall you see around my place isn't just on the surface dirt- it goes down to native rock. And each pillar that comprises one of the jags in my wall is solid. 12 blocks per layer of each pillar, times 3 pillars deep, times about 20 or 30 pillars long for each section of wall (the outer curtain wall, anyways), and then go up anywhere from 10 to 30 blocks high? Lots and lots of stone.
Nope, that's my stuff for my projects. Most of my stone use is hidden, mainly in comparators & repeaters, but also mossy bricks. I want to keep those chests for me for when I need stone it's there. When I have extra I have no problem with donating it, or giving it to someone who can use it, I just don't want to need stone and find out it's all been taken.
Just ask first and I'll let you know if I have extra stone.
I've been pondering a group hardcore survival game. If anyone else is interested I might rent a Realm for a month or 2 (which realistically limits it to 10 people). The big issues are getting everyone on at the same time on a fairly regular basis. Takers?
I'd love to do that. I've been playing quite a bit of hardcore lately (after a recent binge into the terrafirmacraft mod made my remember how fun survivalism is).
yep, the whole room is marked private, plus I believe the faq says all chests are private unless marked public. It was just a bit of confusion from Sunday where I was handing out lots of stuff.
Pretty much. There weren't any places marked as 'public' that I could see at all- that, coupled with the invitations and general "Make yourself at home" ness of the open-house, led me to believe something that wasn't so.
Take faith that your stone was not used in vain, though. And I'll gladly donate a chest or two to repay you if you wish. Or spend the time to stock you up on snow, if you want, now that I have a good snow generator.
Neat. What sort of look are you going for? More modern, with the overhanging seating, or are you going to enclose it with a full building, and need giant stone sentinels standing guard?
Melissia wrote: Vanilla arguably has more mega-constructions than the modded servers, just because of the time each vanilla map is up.
I tried really, really hard to do some mega-builds in Tekkit because resources were so easy to mass produce. I really wish I could have finished my giant Rubiks Cube.
Anvildude wrote: Neat. What sort of look are you going for? More modern, with the overhanging seating, or are you going to enclose it with a full building, and need giant stone sentinels standing guard?
It should now be updated with the walls You got it spot on with the Sentinels!
Arena is done although I am happy for people to make improvements as they see fit:
Floor is just sandstone, it will be easy to add cover e.t.c to it for games.
The room opposite has the lever to open the gates to start a game. (Thankyou Ralphy for wiring it up)
This is the access to the tunnels to reach the starting rooms and the room with the lever.
Here is a view of the front of the building:
Are you not entertained?
I'm laying claim to a rather cool island close to the Jungle. Its uninhabited as far as I can tell. Which is surprising. If anyone else wants to build here let me know so we can agree on boundaries etc.
Dang, I just noticed that island yesterday and thought it would be a great place to do something with, alas, I couldn't think of a worthy plan and have missed my chance.
Shadow Captain Edithae wrote: I'm laying claim to a rather cool island close to the Jungle. Its uninhabited as far as I can tell. Which is surprising. If anyone else wants to build here let me know so we can agree on boundaries etc.
Lotet wrote: I've heard that the spawn area is always loaded. Could anyone tell me exactly what area this affects?
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Chunks#Spawn_Chunks The chunks in the area immediately surrounding the world spawn point are special chunks that are never unloaded from memory as long as at least one player is in the Overworld. This means that things like redstone mechanisms and iron golem farms will continue to operate even when all players are very far away.
I put some stuff in a chest under the Christmas tree at Spawn. Some rail, a few stacks of snow, and a few other bits. Help yourself (The East Nether tunnel could use a rail system).
Also, @Craftermo: My Internet dropped out while you were over, sorry mate. I'll catch up with you sometime, thanks for the help
Really Also: There are wild chickens in the Nether!
Who own's the tiny 1.5 block high netherrack tunnel with a minecart rail line running along underneath the North Tunnel? It's tiny, with half slabs on the ceiling. My guess is its designed as a transport system for moving storage carts, not passengers.
I was digging a tunnel of my own (planning a building a rail line linking my portal to the nether hub) and I accidentally broke into this tunnel and destroyed a section of the track.
Whoever owns it, I apologize. But you might want to line it with stone or something, as its currently invisible.
Hey all, just a quick post to ask everyone not to take anything from the chests I have setup in the Market District at spawn. They're the ones right under the Dakka sign.
Also please refrain from building anything in that area as well unless you have already spoken to me about it. I've got a few more things I'd like to add before I "open it up" to everyone else.
I'm a slow builder, but it will be done soon. I'm looking forward to seeing what builds people contribute afterwards!
Actually its a 2 tall track hole with halfslabs in the middle.
it keeps the pigmen out.
i made it invisible so that people cant see it
if you want we can extend it straight underneath so you can use the secret entrance
My intention was to build a long wide central tunnel running directly underneath the North tunnel, along which people could build minecart rail lines to connect their portals directly to the Nether Hub. Sort of a secondary North tunnel - the existing one above being for foot traffic, and the new tunnel underneath being for Minecarts, with branching tunnels leading to the portals.
I wanted to do a wide tunnel too but i find that without the half blocks traffic goes nuts when pig men spawn so i made it with halves. no real way around it
speaking of multiple rail lines, A project is underway to build a train hub under the nether hub with tracks going out to all the portals.
If you would like to be connected to the hub, post so we know your active, with the direction to your portal.
You'll be responsible for the track at your portal room. I won't break through any ones walls, but I'll help get the track there. Or if you don't want a track to your place let us know that as well.
Donations of stone, cobblestone, 1/2 slabs, tracks, gold, redstone, can be donated to the chests in the nether hub.
I'll be taking the lead for the west tunnel, so if your portal is out that way feel free to discuss it with me.
Ordgar & desubot have taken the lead for the north tunnel.
We need someone to take lead for the south & east tunnels.
The North tunnel is almost complete, just filling in the walls now. After that I'll be adding lighting, then laying down redstone blocks to power rail tracks.
Shadow Captain, if you want some help building the Dwarf cities, let me know, and I'll give you a hand. Happy to spread dwarf-themed love across the server.
Will happily help with North Tunnel rail programme if I'm on.
Ian Sturrock wrote: Shadow Captain, if you want some help building the Dwarf cities, let me know, and I'll give you a hand. Happy to spread dwarf-themed love across the server.
Will happily help with North Tunnel rail programme if I'm on.
If you're a Dwarf builder then I might need to enlist you help with something. I've been working on making a large underground cavern, it's far from finished, but when I've finished a large enough portion then I want to build a Dwarven type city. Minecraft I'm lordbean123
Ian Sturrock wrote: Shadow Captain, if you want some help building the Dwarf cities, let me know, and I'll give you a hand. Happy to spread dwarf-themed love across the server.
Will happily help with North Tunnel rail programme if I'm on.
May be a couple weeks before I get started. Need to repair/replace my mining gear first.
Well the west tunnel is done and I finished 1/2 slabbing the under hub so no more surprise ghast attacks. Which sucks while your building a red stone contraption btw.
No idea of worth really. I've collected about 3 stacks just from the slimes that spawn in the dwarven city type stuff I've built. Any big-ish underground locations seem to spawn them eventually. I just keep an eye out, and try to hit them with low-damage stuff rather than weapons, when I see them, so as to maximise slimeball delivery. I probably get about a stack per year, but I don't use them very much!
Sure, I'll give you a stack for 3 diamonds. Will probably be logging on in a bit. Alternatively come to Chasmholm (Great North Tunnel then follow signs), and I'll leave it in the Trade Room by the portal.
I'd do a diamond per stack as well if you ever run out of his supply. I get a few more than him, since a corner of my basement seems to be a Slime Chunk- since I'm around there a lot (Chasmholm is more spread out) I get a fair number of spawns.
Ian Sturrock wrote:Sure, I'll give you a stack for 3 diamonds. Will probably be logging on in a bit. Alternatively come to Chasmholm (Great North Tunnel then follow signs), and I'll leave it in the Trade Room by the portal.
Anvildude wrote:I'd do a diamond per stack as well if you ever run out of his supply. I get a few more than him, since a corner of my basement seems to be a Slime Chunk- since I'm around there a lot (Chasmholm is more spread out) I get a fair number of spawns.
Thanks for the offer guys, but Sidstyler was on the server and hooked me up. Neighborly love and all.
Ralphy built a slime grinder in my basement If anyone wants to camp it. As you come out of my portal turn right (unless you come out facing a tunnel with wool on the sides, in which case turn around ).
Then follow it until you reach a big hole, jump down )or walk down the side) of it to the bottom which is where it is located.
For all of those interested, the Market District at spawn is officially open. There's a quick guide book on the side of a couple paths. Give it a quick read if you're going to build something there.
There's still plenty of open plots, so get'em while they're there!
And, for those interested, there are free samples. Simply stand on the red wool and pull the lever.
Spoiler:
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, apparently the hub is village-like enough that we have zombie invasions. They poured through the market while I was making potions.
GangstaMuffin24 wrote: For all of those interested, the Market District at spawn is officially open. There's a quick guide book on the side of a couple paths. Give it a quick read if you're going to build something there.
hrrm, my shop doesn't meet the building code. Will the indignities never end?
Started prepping for my first ocean monument raid. Got a platform built above the monument with a bed and a big stash of potions.
The plan is to use invisibility to sneak in, drain a room using sponges and ladders, and make it safe with doors and walls to keep out the guardians. Then I can put down a bed and chests to store supplies.
How do the invisibility potions work? If i attack a guardian while invisible, does that break the effect of the potion allowing it to see me?
So place tnt on the roof. place blocks all around the side except 1 and the top. place a sign in front on the floor (So not on the tnt) then light the tnt with a FnS. the air pocket will prevent the water from stifling it.
Ugh, that was mine, probably...I noticed I was missing a horse named "Pickle" when I logged on today. I guess I rode it to spawn last time I was online and forgot about it, thinking I'd used the train instead.
I hope that any roof you give it will compliment the island the quality of the island.
Speaking of which, in the interest of seeing that island finished, feel free to take, hmm, 6 double chests of stone or cobble from the stone shop at spawn, just smash any empty chests. Even though you might have tonnes of stone or no intention to use it for the island ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If it looks nice you can have as much as you want.
I hope that any roof you give it will compliment the island the quality of the island.
Speaking of which, in the interest of seeing that island finished, feel free to take, hmm, 6 double chests of stone or cobble from the stone shop at spawn, just smash any empty chests. Even though you might have tonnes of stone or no intention to use it for the island ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If it looks nice you can have as much as you want.
The ugly cobble roof was simply a temporary panic room where I could respawn in safety close to the temple. It'll eventually be removed. I probably won't build anything at the surface - I'll build a Minecart rail on the sea bed (with a glass roof for a lovely scenic view) to connect it to my new island. I'm still in the process of draining it (which is actually a lot quicker than I was told it would be, thanks to the 40 sponge (10 of which was kindly gifted to me by SirRalphy) I've collected and all the furnaces I've left around the place.
I was just out visiting your island and I noticed you have another Water Temple next to your island, plus another again in the unloaded area (soon to be loaded).
Say, does anyone have any ideas for south tunnel? I want to build something that's really far down south so it's going to be a long tunnel. Anything to suggest folks? Otherwise I might just make another "canvas" of Stone Brick like East Tunnel. I'd ask the people who use South but Mel is the only person who maybe lives that way so I doubt I'm going to get a lot of responses from residents. This also means that the chance that someone will use this canvas is pretty slim, so if you have something that I could use, I would apprciate it. Otherwise it might be brick forever.
Lotet wrote: Say, does anyone have any ideas for south tunnel? I want to build something that's really far down south so it's going to be a long tunnel. Anything to suggest folks? Otherwise I might just make another "canvas" of Stone Brick like East Tunnel. I'd ask the people who use South but Mel is the only person who maybe lives that way so I doubt I'm going to get a lot of responses from residents. This also means that the chance that someone will use this canvas is pretty slim, so if you have something that I could use, I would apprciate it. Otherwise it might be brick forever.
... I'm not going to get any suggestions, am I ?
Well I think that the North tunnel design is pretty much amazing, so taking that as an inspiration can't be a bad thing. Maybe use the new blocks (granite, andesite, or diorite) to get a bit of a pattern going and not forgetting to mix up the depth of the walls so they aren't just a straight tunnel (although most of my tunnels are pretty bland admittedly).
That being said, it's not a tunnel that I use very often so whatever makes you happy.
Lotet wrote: I was just out visiting your island and I noticed you have another Water Temple next to your island, plus another again in the unloaded area (soon to be loaded).
Say, does anyone have any ideas for south tunnel? I want to build something that's really far down south so it's going to be a long tunnel. Anything to suggest folks? Otherwise I might just make another "canvas" of Stone Brick like East Tunnel. I'd ask the people who use South but Mel is the only person who maybe lives that way so I doubt I'm going to get a lot of responses from residents. This also means that the chance that someone will use this canvas is pretty slim, so if you have something that I could use, I would apprciate it. Otherwise it might be brick forever.
... I'm not going to get any suggestions, am I ?
Speak to Cheesus as he lives right at the end of the current South Tunnel stretch. Not sure what his Dakka name is.
shrike wrote: I reckon you could go off minecraft for the next four years, come back, and still no one would have built anything close to that
Seriously dude, I consider myself to have a pretty good attention span if something interests me, but jesus I wouldn't have gotten 10% through that build before I drifted off to do other stuff
I tip my hat to you, good sir.
Heh. Was just showing off some of the server megabuilds to a buddy (he's img5somethingsomething on the server, actually, but doesn't wander or do much on it as of now) and was glad I could find these pics of Ma55terfett's grand hall.
And this comment on them... Well, I sort of want to object to that, now. Just a little.
And from the side.
This is one side of the expansion on my basement. One of 4.
It's only been 2 years, Shrike! Whaddaya think about that!
Lotet wrote: I was just out visiting your island and I noticed you have another Water Temple next to your island, plus another again in the unloaded area (soon to be loaded).
Yes, 2 monuments within 1 km. I wasn't aware of the third.
Eventually I will raid the 2nd monument, but I'm busy IRLatm so I have no idea when I'll get round to it, and I don't want to be greedy claiming two rare Biomes for myself so anyone else in the area is welcome to raid it first. If its not been cleared and raided in a month or so I'll probably start making preparations myself.
The one with the cobble stone safe house above it IS claimed and has already been raided for Gold and Sponge. I'm going to keep the structure intact (though I will delete some rooms to make it less of a maze) and make use of it somehow.
Perhaps we could turn the 3rd into a Public Guardian farm.
Anvildude wrote: Heh. Was just showing off some of the server megabuilds to a buddy (he's img5somethingsomething on the server, actually, but doesn't wander or do much on it as of now) and was glad I could find these pics of Ma55terfett's grand hall.
And this comment on them... Well, I sort of want to object to that, now. Just a little.
This is one side of the expansion on my basement. One of 4.
It's only been 2 years, Shrike! Whaddaya think about that!
I'd wager Fett still has the prize for "most impressive build" on the server, but I'll reserve judgement until both are finished (if either of you are ever going to be finished )
Optio wrote: Speak to Cheesus as he lives right at the end of the current South Tunnel stretch. Not sure what his Dakka name is.
Shrike, right? Here I was, going to say he hasn't posted on this thread for a year and he turns up.
So Shrike, have any input? If not I might still run any designs to you before building... if I come up with anything.
Binidj wrote: Well I think that the North tunnel design is pretty much amazing, so taking that as an inspiration can't be a bad thing. Maybe use the new blocks (granite, andesite, or diorite) to get a bit of a pattern going and not forgetting to mix up the depth of the walls so they aren't just a straight tunnel (although most of my tunnels are pretty bland admittedly).
That being said, it's not a tunnel that I use very often so whatever makes you happy.
I'd like to find a use for the new blocks by since I want to make the tunnel 1000+ blocks long I don't think I could gather enough to even use it sparingly. I have enough stone to make the Beanland outer wall so I'd like that to be a main component, but netherbrick would be fine to make it better
I would like something as nice as North Tunnel but I can't think of anything. I'm trying to make stuff in creative but nothing looks good.
EDIT:
Alright, here's my first attempt. Can anything be done with this? Too cramped? Too unadorned? Bad shape? Iron Bars or Nether Brick Fence? Glass maybe?
Yes, 2 monuments within 1 km. I wasn't aware of the third.
Eventually I will raid the 2nd monument, but I'm busy IRLatm so I have no idea when I'll get round to it, and I don't want to be greedy claiming two rare Biomes for myself so anyone else in the area is welcome to raid it first. If its not been cleared and raided in a month or so I'll probably start making preparations myself.
Does anyone fancy working with me to raid the 2nd monument and then turn it in to some kind of joint project? Not sure what, yet -- other than, maybe, if we do have a Guardian farm elsewhere, just acquiring a LOAD of prismarine blocks and building it you and up?
Does anyone know what happened to the Villager at Spawn selling name tags for 6 emeralds? It's been missing for days.
I was considering rounding up some wolves since I see a lot of them. Then using leashes and name tags (to stop them from despawning) and selling them to players at spawn. But if I have to buy tags from Librarians at 20 emeralds per tag then, well, 40 Emeralds for a pair of wolves sounds like a bit much, right?
Lotet wrote: Does anyone know what happened to the Villager at Spawn selling name tags for 6 emeralds? It's been missing for days.
I was considering rounding up some wolves since I see a lot of them. Then using leashes and name tags (to stop them from despawning) and selling them to players at spawn. But if I have to buy tags from Librarians at 20 emeralds per tag then, well, 40 Emeralds for a pair of wolves sounds like a bit much, right?
Yeah, I also noticed he was gone yesterday or the day before. No idea what happened to him.
Yes, 2 monuments within 1 km. I wasn't aware of the third.
Eventually I will raid the 2nd monument, but I'm busy IRLatm so I have no idea when I'll get round to it, and I don't want to be greedy claiming two rare Biomes for myself so anyone else in the area is welcome to raid it first. If its not been cleared and raided in a month or so I'll probably start making preparations myself.
Does anyone fancy working with me to raid the 2nd monument and then turn it in to some kind of joint project? Not sure what, yet -- other than, maybe, if we do have a Guardian farm elsewhere, just acquiring a LOAD of prismarine blocks and building it you and up?
My advice... take lots of potions of invisibility, night vision and swiftness. I raided my monument and killed all these elder guardians without ever being in danger thanks to the invisibility. Lots of ladder, doors and a handful of sponge substituted for water breathing potions which I lacked the ingredients for.
Buckets of milk remove magical effects from you (including potions) so can be used for 10 secs to remove the mining fatigue effect. Handy for taking short cuts through walls. Break through the roof to get to the last boss, it's such a maze that I couldn't find my through it to reach him.
So, I've mostly been playing on my vanilla SSP game but I stopped in to the dakka server. Left the spawn once and fell to my death. I noticed that when I opened and closed a chest I could no longer look around with my mouse. If I hit esc to bring up the menu and then again to go back in game it fixed the issue. This occurred for furnaces and crafting tables as well. My google-fu couldn't find similar and it doesn't occur in my SSP game. Any ideas? It's annoying and one of the reasons I haven't started playing on the server
made one already, not as compact but hey, it works (mostly)
Lotet wrote:
Optio wrote: Speak to Cheesus as he lives right at the end of the current South Tunnel stretch. Not sure what his Dakka name is.
Shrike, right? Here I was, going to say he hasn't posted on this thread for a year and he turns up.
So Shrike, have any input? If not I might still run any designs to you before building... if I come up with anything.
Binidj wrote: Well I think that the North tunnel design is pretty much amazing, so taking that as an inspiration can't be a bad thing. Maybe use the new blocks (granite, andesite, or diorite) to get a bit of a pattern going and not forgetting to mix up the depth of the walls so they aren't just a straight tunnel (although most of my tunnels are pretty bland admittedly).
That being said, it's not a tunnel that I use very often so whatever makes you happy.
I'd like to find a use for the new blocks by since I want to make the tunnel 1000+ blocks long I don't think I could gather enough to even use it sparingly. I have enough stone to make the Beanland outer wall so I'd like that to be a main component, but netherbrick would be fine to make it better
I would like something as nice as North Tunnel but I can't think of anything. I'm trying to make stuff in creative but nothing looks good.
EDIT:
Alright, here's my first attempt. Can anything be done with this? Too cramped? Too unadorned? Bad shape? Iron Bars or Nether Brick Fence? Glass maybe?
I honestly don't mind, really anything's an improvement over the current one, I only built the cobblestone tunnel as a temporary thing because I was the only bastard on the south side at the time that looks good though
Lotet wrote: Does anyone know what happened to the Villager at Spawn selling name tags for 6 emeralds? It's been missing for days.
I was considering rounding up some wolves since I see a lot of them. Then using leashes and name tags (to stop them from despawning) and selling them to players at spawn. But if I have to buy tags from Librarians at 20 emeralds per tag then, well, 40 Emeralds for a pair of wolves sounds like a bit much, right?
sounds good for me, I've been wandering for days looking for them.
I'll give you a stack of emeralds if you deliver 2 to my tower.
Well, I traded a pair of wolves to sirlynchmob and he gave me a bunch of emeralds and name tags, and another pair to Dria.
I've still got 2 more wolves named Ornlu and Beowulf at my base. Anyone want them? They're 40 Emeralds for the 2, this is only so I can buy more name tags. But if Darkinnit puts the villager that sells name tags for 6 emeralds each back in it's stall you can have both of them for the combined price of uhh, 12? But only after the villager gets placed back, if ever. The tags came from sirlynchmob so I'm personally not selling them for a loss.
They're just at the very far end of North Tunnel, near the Public Mesa tunnel, my tunnel is in disrepair with a cow. I'd bring them to spawn but there was that pesky hooligan a couple weeks back nicking things.
EDIT:
Also, Shrike (and Mel?), I know you don't really care but I felt I should ask about the tunnel anyway. Even though I probably won't start building right now. I won't ask any more. Do you think the tunnel would look better wider? Taller and Wider? Is the original size the prefered size? With Iron Bars, Nether Brick Fence or Glass Blocks/Panes for windows? If it's taller it might be nice to have a cross through the window (the short windows are only 2 blocks tall, so no cross, also, I'm obviously not going to show every window combination). Plus the floor and roof patern, 8 patern or diamond pattern? What do you think looks best?
Anyone else can answer as well, I would appreciate it.
Taller and wider looks fab. Might be a lot of work to do it for all those blocks. But it might inspire me to rework the North Tunnel to be even prettier.
Gah! My brother likes the Wide one. Disenting opinions! The bane of my productivity! Not that playing Minecraft is being productive...
Anyway, concerning the cross windows, I think if they're chosen I might bricks on either end, like so, since I like the lanterns having bricks to its left and right. Otherwise, the other window types would use the normal length tunnel.