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Post by: Eldercaveman
I'll get a proper look at it tomorrow.
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Post by: evildrcheese
Oh for the love of Pete!
I'm starting to wonder if we shoudl just lock this thread until a BA release is looking likely so some poor souls don't need to go throight 20 pages of disappointment.
D
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Post by: th3maninblak
Yeah im definitely not seeing it. Possible that we'll get a GK style release the last saturday in november. Unsire though. We'll get the new codex by the end of the year. Dont worry.
Edit: we aready know the campaign is starting the same week as the venomthrope/zoanthrope release. We also know that the name of the campaign is Shield of BAAL. I wouldnt lose hope just yet.
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Post by: wuestenfux
 Scrub wrote:They never normally do a Codex/Army book release in December but this year, with the intense release schedule, themed expansion sets and other surprise releases I'd say that we could be in for a surprise this year!
December could be reserved for The Hobbit releases as in the past two years.
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Post by: Bronzefists42
Who even plays the hobbit?
We need BA GeeDubs!
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Post by: Eldarain
With their inclusion in the campaign and dwindling weekends left I think it's going to be a codex only release.
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Post by: Kelly502
Nids are going to be attacking Baal eh?
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Perhaps the assault cannon and Baal Predator will thin em out if true...
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Post by: tomjoad
 Eldarain wrote:With their inclusion in the campaign and dwindling weekends left I think it's going to be a codex only release.
Yeah, I'm starting to think the same thing. We don't really NEED any new kits, so that's not so bad. Even if GW decides for some reason to nix a couple of our metal-only characters, they are at least now showing a willingness to revisit things that they skipped at the initial codex release (considering there are rumors of Vect in January, I'd be shocked if the IG and GK characters that got killed off don't resurface in the same way; ours will too, if it comes to that).
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Post by: Crimson Devil
 th3maninblak wrote: adamsouza wrote: Orock wrote: valkyriePROfail wrote:Done right or not, BA need a major improvement in terms of codex. We have been waiting for too long.
Ork player here. Just a reminder we got shat on after a long time and things you take for granted could be removed like jump troops. So don't get too excited for new, I for one would much rather have the old.
Orks didn't lose access to anything except the ability to play Elites and Fast Attack as troops.
Blood Angels Assault Troops are actually troops.
So we can look forward to point reductions and better internal balance ?
Thank you for posting my argument for me!
Im tired of repeating myself to all the doomsayers.
Aren't you the guy that had a whole thread dedicated to a panic attack about the BAs were going to get squated? It wasn't too long ago you were a Doomsayer also.
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Post by: th3maninblak
Well, until recently all the signs were there. But i admitted being wrong and ate my words for it. Thats the difference.
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Post by: Kelly502
Hey th3maninblak! I've noticed throughout White Dwarf #41 that Flesh Tearers are in the foreground of the Nid photos, and two books, one with Gabriel their Chapter Master. I'm sorry my WD is out in the car as I left it on my way in to work. (hands were full of kit) anyway, I should run and get it. But I'm curious if this is some precursor to a Blood Angel release. Isn't the rumor that the Tyranids are hitting Baal?
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Post by: th3maninblak
 Kelly502 wrote:Hey th3maninblak! I've noticed throughout White Dwarf #41 that Flesh Tearers are in the foreground of the Nid photos, and two books, one with Gabriel their Chapter Master. I'm sorry my WD is out in the car as I left it on my way in to work. (hands were full of kit) anyway, I should run and get it. But I'm curious if this is some precursor to a Blood Angel release. Isn't the rumor that the Tyranids are hitting Baal?
Thats the idea. Our main rumor source put the codex release sometime in december. I personally argued against this, as there has never been a codex put out that month, but its looking like itll be true. Also, these releases are leading up to a nids vs ba campaign.
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
th3maninblak wrote: Kelly502 wrote:Hey th3maninblak! I've noticed throughout White Dwarf #41 that Flesh Tearers are in the foreground of the Nid photos, and two books, one with Gabriel their Chapter Master. I'm sorry my WD is out in the car as I left it on my way in to work. (hands were full of kit) anyway, I should run and get it. But I'm curious if this is some precursor to a Blood Angel release. Isn't the rumor that the Tyranids are hitting Baal?
Thats the idea. Our main rumor source put the codex release sometime in december. I personally argued against this, as there has never been a codex put out that month, but its looking like itll be true. Also, these releases are leading up to a nids vs ba campaign.
Likely Nids and first campaign book go up next week, followed by a campaign box, then a couple weeks of Hobbit in December while the Movie is big news. Then Jan having a couple weeks to cover book 2 of the campaign and then BA codex, followed by some Fantasy, like End Times book 3 in late Jan/ Early Feb.
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Post by: Kirasu
th3maninblak wrote:Well, until recently all the signs were there. But i admitted being wrong and ate my words for it. Thats the difference.
The signs were there of Blood Angels being squatted? Seriously? An army that was *the* representation of 40k for Space Crusade, for 2nd Edition, for Space Hulk and is one of the 4 core Space Marine chapters (UM, SW, DA and BA)? It;s beyond an absurd idea.
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Post by: Wilson
Theres a lot of tension over here on this thread...
you guys should all relax and come join us on the Nid leaks thread... 
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Post by: alanmckenzie
 Wilson wrote:Theres a lot of tension over here on this thread...
you guys should all relax and come join us on the Nid leaks thread...
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Post by: reds8n
Relax, things will work out
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Post by: Fayric
The "no release in december" thing is obviously not an issue with new stuff popping weekend by weekend.
I must say I dont mind a codex only release.
Like many other posters have said, exept for some plastic named characters, any new kit would feel somewhat forced and uncalled for.
The characters however is an issue. When I started out with 40k, I remember associating BA with lots of diffrent and cool characters, and today there is hardly any valid models to get (due to horrible finecast, and/or ancient sculpts).
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Post by: Warhams-77
Thanks Reds8n, where is that from?
Everything is pointing towards a Blood Angels release in the next 4 weeks... Probably early december
Another Flesh Tearers book got on pre-order today:
All those are more than hints...
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Post by: Eldercaveman
That's not new, I have that sat on my book shelf
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Post by: Warhams-77
Didnt know, it says
Flesh of Cretacia will be available in stores from December 6th 2014. All pre-orders made through blacklibrary.com will begin shipping in the week commencing november 10th 2014.
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/flesh-of-cretacia-hardback.html
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Post by: reds8n
It's on regular non special edition release. 
http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/flesh-of-cretacia-hardback.html
believe the Baal ref. pic is from the inside of the Trial of Blood book
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Post by: Kelly502
Wilson wrote:Theres a lot of tension over here on this thread...
you guys should all relax and come join us on the Nid leaks thread...
Funny guy...
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Post by: Warhams-77
Oh okay 
Read the WD 141 bat rep again this week. They should release the old Land Speeder model in plastic  A true classic
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Post by: Kelly502
Actually that original metal one in plastic would truly be great! I still use two metal speeders.
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Post by: Warhams-77
I love the sleek design and have two of the IG version with the plasma cannon on top but no Marine one yet. FW will probably re-release it one day in resin
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Post by: alanmckenzie
Yeah, I've got three in my BA successor army. Nightmare to put together. Plastic would've been lovely.
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Post by: pretre
Warhams-77 wrote:Oh okay
Read the WD 141 bat rep again this week. They should release the old Land Speeder model in plastic A true classic
Man that thing was horrible! So many gaps...
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Post by: Warhams-77
Hehe
So, next leak will probably be pics of the campaign book, right?
Someone, bring it on please
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Post by: Kelly502
I have one of those speeders pictured on 143 here.
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Post by: th3maninblak
More from lords of war, basically telling everyone to relax, and that our codex will be out soon.
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
More bad news from the Nid thread:
 Redemption wrote:
People with the WD with the Zoanthrope kit in it are mentioning the one after it is going back to the End Times
Emphasis mine. Looks like end times is going to take up the rest of the release slots pre-holiday if this is true. Even with just a three-week release for End Times, BA is going to be released for preorder the 12th and release the 19th.
Makes me wonder why the Shield of Baal wasnt sighted, with the "A new campaign unfolds) teaser, although rumors point the book to being Guard and Sisters v. Nids for the Levithan book (or maybe the box? seemed to be what they were hinting but plastic sisters is sketchy IMO)
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Post by: Warhams-77
It was the same with Codex: Space Wolves. Sanctus Reach part 1 was only IG/IK vs Orks, part 2 (the box) and part 3 (Hour of the Wolf book) were featuring SW. This pattern is quite similiar
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They will continue with Blood Angels though, not SOB
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Post by: adamsouza
I read that rumor, and honestly I can't see them featuring Sisters in the campaign without releasing something for them, and I don't see new models without an in print codex. Also,since Baal is the Blood Angels home world, why would AM and Sisters be defending it ? That rumor seems particularly salty to me.
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Post by: Melcavuk
I would assume that Baal has a standing force of PDF that would come in under the AM defending it.
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Post by: tomjoad
Thatguyhsagun wrote:More bad news from the Nid thread:
Redemption wrote:
People with the WD with the Zoanthrope kit in it are mentioning the one after it is going back to the End Times
Emphasis mine. Looks like end times is going to take up the rest of the release slots pre-holiday if this is true. Even with just a three-week release for End Times, BA is going to be released for preorder the 12th and release the 19th.
Makes me wonder why the Shield of Baal wasnt sighted, with the "A new campaign unfolds) teaser, although rumors point the book to being Guard and Sisters v. Nids for the Levithan book (or maybe the box? seemed to be what they were hinting but plastic sisters is sketchy IMO)
Naftka covered this the other day; apparently the End Times book being released is just a novella, so it shouldn't prevent the Blood Angels codex being dropped before they get back to End Times-proper.
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
adamsouza wrote:I read that rumor, and honestly I can't see them featuring Sisters in the campaign without releasing something for them, and I don't see new models without an in print codex. Also,since Baal is the Blood Angels home world, why would AM and Sisters be defending it ? That rumor seems particularly salty to me.
the outer fringed of the Baal system, not Baal its self, maybe thats how they found out the hive-fleet was coming
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Post by: pretre
Lords of Wargaming:
With all the talk and rumors of the new Tyranid stuff, Blood Angels, and the campaign involving the two I am going to clear up some misinformation/misunderstanding. The box coming out containing Tyranids and Blood Angels is NOT a starter set. It is a campaign box like Stormclaw was. Yes there are similarities between a starter set and a campaign box. Both contain models and the small rule book. The main differences being:
-Campaign box is limited production
-Campaign box does not have the snap fit models
Dark Vengeance is your starter set for the foreseeable future. As for the contents of the campaign box, we don't know yet. As soon as we are able to tell you we will. I would not put much stock in the rumors of a plastic Broodlord or Plastic Lictor in there unless perhaps they make one into a character.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
adamsouza wrote:I read that rumor, and honestly I can't see them featuring Sisters in the campaign without releasing something for them
You just need some imagination. “Will the brave Blood Angel be able to reach the Sisters first and claim their precious blood for themselves, or will the Hive Mind get the potent liquid before they are able to react? ”. Bang, just say the objectives in one of the missions are actually immobile, inactive Sisters, no model release needed, jobs done!
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Post by: DO IT TO IT
Shield of Baal confirmed, but no name mention of Blood Angels on the cover sadly.
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Post by: ntdars
DO IT TO IT wrote:Shield of Baal confirmed, but no name mention of Blood Angels on the cover sadly.
I'm going to buy the gak out of that campaign box.
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Post by: Eldercaveman
Eugh I need to sell some vital organs. This is getting so expensive.
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Post by: wuestenfux
Good to see that BA will be somehow involved.
Could give a starter box wit BA and Nids.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
 wuestenfux wrote:Good to see that BA will be somehow involved.
Could give a starter box wit BA and Nids.
Or a campaign box.
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Post by: Talys
If it's a campaign box like Stormclaw, my FLGS is going to be very happy with me.
Unlike the DV expansion, which I will probably pass on :(
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Post by: Bronzefists42
When did GW suddenly decide "hhmmmnnn let's fix Tyranids."
Its like they're...LISTENING!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
A more expanded version of the WD info from the Tyranids thread
Archibald_TK got early access to the next White Dwarf
Don't know what you already know but here we go nonetheless:
- Venomthropes look excessively good ( IMO)
- On the cover of the Paint Guide is a Broodlord, I first thought it was the one from SH when glancing at it but realized
it was actually a model I didn't know.
- Rules for Zoans broods in the WD.
- Shield of Baal is AM + Tempestus + SoB vs Nids. Rules inside are for Nids. It's a Nagash type of dual books.
- It is the first part of a campaign, those are the worlds actually protecting the BA ones.
- End of the WD said that in the next one we will be back to ET. [/quote
Link: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?401403-Rumours-from-next-white-dwarf&p=7312247&viewfull=1#post7312247
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Post by: th3maninblak
If this follows the stormclaw pattern, we'll get this book, then the box when BA come to the rescue (along with an end times novella) and then the new BA dex. My guess is we've got another 3 weeks at this point. Maybe 4.
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Post by: evildrcheese
SoB and BA? Do GW want me to starve to death? Because that's how you make me starve to death.
Fortunately all this salt I'm taking will help preserve me.
D
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Post by: Talys
th3maninblak wrote:If this follows the stormclaw pattern, we'll get this book, then the box when BA come to the rescue (along with an end times novella) and then the new BA dex. My guess is we've got another 3 weeks at this point. Maybe 4.
If it is such a box, GW would want to release at least 3weeks before Christmas, to allow for shipping and mail.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
 evildrcheese wrote:SoB and BA? Do GW want me to starve to death? Because that's how you make me starve to death.
Fortunately all this salt I'm taking will help preserve me.
D
Sisters probably won't get any new models or rules, just an honorable mention. So your wallet is probably safe on that front.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Maybe a formation in the campaign books. But it's not super likely.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
 Bronzefists42 wrote:When did GW suddenly decide "hhmmmnnn let's fix Tyranids."
Its like they're...LISTENING!
Not to me. Not to me.
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Post by: th3maninblak
Not gonna lie, at this point i think i speak for all BA players by saying that im getting super impatient. GW needs to hurry up. For realz.
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Post by: Fayric
th3maninblak wrote:Not gonna lie, at this point i think i speak for all BA players by saying that im getting super impatient. GW needs to hurry up. For realz.
Lol, the thing is, they have been hurrying up lately. Weekly releases, boxes, and even fixing (some) tyranidian problems, pushing the boundries of Fantasy, re-releasing SH. Of course the player response will be "what about ME?".
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Post by: evildrcheese
Ah man, BA don't even feature on the front of the campaign book. GW you really are torturing me at this point. Give me some BA love.
Do we even have a price for the campaign book?
D
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Post by: diepotato47
Are Blood Angels actually rumored to get any detachments or rules from Shield of Baal:Leviathan? Leaked pics say Cities of Death, Death From the Skies, Planetstrike and Tyranid detachments, but nothing about Blood Angels other than them being there. Stormclaw: Red Waagh and Hour of the Wolf included formations for both factions
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Post by: Eldarain
There weren't any Space Wolves formations in The Red Waaagh! were there? (Could be wrong I just don't remember any)
As that book is analogous to this one in terms of their recent campaign format I think we won't see any until the Stormclaw style boxed set.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
From what I recall, yeah, the first book for that campaign was just Orks v Guard. Then the Wolves showed up in the Stormclaw booklet. And then it became a Daemon/GK show in the final book.
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Post by: plastictrees
Red Waagh had the Admantine Lance (Knight formation), the Steel Host (Guard armour) and the Rampart Detachment (Bullgryn formation).
So no wolves, but plenty of Imperial formations.
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What we`re saying is that SoB players should be super excited and absolutely expect to get at least three formations with no chance of horrible disappointment at all.
In any way.
You guys have got this in the bag.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Or a formation:
Purer than Pure
1+ Squads of Sisters of Battle
Humanity's Shield: Any squad that takes casualties that can draw LOS to a friendly Sisters of Battle unit may ignore 1 failed save for every Sister within LOS. Remove the Sisters instead.
Faith's Sacrifice: Whenever a Daemonic unit enters play, remove one squad of Sisters of Battle. That Daemonic unit takes 1d6 wounds. Take saves as normal.
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Post by: plastictrees
 H.B.M.C. wrote:Or a formation:
Purer than Pure
1+ Squads of Sisters of Battle
Humanity's Shield: Any squad that takes casualties that can draw LOS to a friendly Sisters of Battle unit may ignore 1 failed save for every Sister within LOS. Remove the Sisters instead.
Faith's Sacrifice: Whenever a Daemonic unit enters play, remove one squad of Sisters of Battle. That Daemonic unit takes 1d6 wounds. Take saves as normal.
I like the direction, the rules need to be just a bit better. You need to strike just the right balance between encouraging people to spend $100 on a unit of Sisters and then filling them with unending despair when that unit barely appears on the table.
I suggest the following tweak:
Humanity`s Shield: Leave your Sisters at home (proof of purchase required). All other units in your army receive a 3+ invulnerable save.
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Post by: pretre
Ugh.
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Post by: gorgon
H.B.M.C. wrote:From what I recall, yeah, the first book for that campaign was just Orks v Guard. Then the Wolves showed up in the Stormclaw booklet. And then it became a Daemon/ GK show in the final book.
Yeah, my prediction is that the second book will focus on BA and their successors, with a specific focus on the Flesh Tearers...essentially a FT supplement built into the campaign book. FTs showing up in so many of the new Tyranid pics -- and not straight-up BA -- seems like it has to be a clue.
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Post by: Eldercaveman
Or a Red Herring...
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Post by: Fayric
Eldarain wrote:There weren't any Space Wolves formations in The Red Waaagh! were there? (Could be wrong I just don't remember any)
As that book is analogous to this one in terms of their recent campaign format I think we won't see any until the Stormclaw style boxed set.
Dont forget SW got their codex, and a supplement and some new stuff closely to the campaign, just as most people hope BA will be codexed with this campaign.
On a side note, I begin to find it hilarious how desperatley "patterns" are found in every odd whim GW follow these days. There is no "recent campaign format" yet, there is just a recent campaign.
"The "recent pattern" seems to be that armies get monstrous drop pods -WHERE IS MY DAEMONIC DROP PODS!"
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Post by: th3maninblak
 Fayric wrote: Eldarain wrote:There weren't any Space Wolves formations in The Red Waaagh! were there? (Could be wrong I just don't remember any)
As that book is analogous to this one in terms of their recent campaign format I think we won't see any until the Stormclaw style boxed set.
Dont forget SW got their codex, and a supplement and some new stuff closely to the campaign, just as most people hope BA will be codexed with this campaign.
On a side note, I begin to find it hilarious how desperatley "patterns" are found in every odd whim GW follow these days. There is no "recent campaign format" yet, there is just a recent campaign.
"The "recent pattern" seems to be that armies get monstrous drop pods -WHERE IS MY DAEMONIC DROP PODS!"
Well, it is the only thing we have to base our info off of. Book 1 of sanctus reach had no wolves in it, and its safe to assule that BA will be involved in a campaign called shield of BAAL. If not, then GW hq is literally full of people that just like to troll blood angels fans.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Except if you were to really go and look at "patterns", you would be looking at the End Times releases for WHFB rather than the 40k campaign release...but even that doesn't necessarily hold.
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Post by: LutherMax
Remember, patience is a virtue, and Blood Angels are nothing if not virtuous
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Post by: th3maninblak
 LutherMax wrote:Remember, patience is a virtue, and Blood Angels are nothing if not virtuous
And righteous, and fearless, and savage, and bloodthirsty, and violent, etc.
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Post by: TiamatRoar
So far the rumours imply the first set will be IG, SoB (Gasp!), and Tyrannids. I'm inclined to think there won't be BA in the first wave, despite it being Shield of Baal, simply because three different factions (or 2.5, depending on what you view the sisters as. Or maybe 2 if the sisters end up just being a footnote like the Valedor campaign since using them as a footnote is a tradition at this point) is kinda enough, isn't it?
Odds are pretty much guaranteed BA will feature at some point, obviously. Since it's Baal. Hell, the novel series was leading up to this point for crying out loud (if anything, going by the novel series, the finale should be a three way between Tyrannids, all BA chapters (besides Lamenters) and any allies if any allies are still alive, and Chaos). That won't happen until the nids reach the "inner systems", though.
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Post by: Kanluwen
It's not "the first set".
It is the first book.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Maybe if you played a real army you'd find it funny.
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Post by: Bronzefists42
Some one made fun of SOB! The swarm will soon be upon us!
Block the entrances!
Close the doors!
Seal the exits!
This is war!
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
That was just trolling  .
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Post by: LutherMax
th3maninblak wrote: LutherMax wrote:Remember, patience is a virtue, and Blood Angels are nothing if not virtuous
And righteous, and fearless, and savage, and bloodthirsty, and violent, etc.
Ha good point, in that case carry on
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Post by: Azreal13
No, it was what is known, in some circles, as a "joke."
That aside, does this thread now hold some sort of record for the most mileage from the least information?
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Post by: Mavnas
 Azreal13 wrote:
No, it was what is known, in some circles, as a "joke."
That aside, does this thread now hold some sort of record for the most mileage from the least information?
No, I'm pretty sure actual SoB threads have you beat there. Incidentally, I think the disappointment of the last few I saw are why no one is talking about these rumors in their own thread yet.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
That first message of him I can see as a joke. The one I was quoting, though…
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
It's understandable that you don't get it Hybrid. You're a SoB player after all, and historically they lack any sense of humour. I think it stems from not playing a real army, or an army that anyone cares about (except other SoB players). Or, to put it another way: 1. The first post was a joke. 2. The second post was a joke to petre, as it's one I've made in the past. 3. This post is me ridiculing you for not understanding that it was a joke (because you're a SoB player, etc. etc.). In any case, you should know by now that we don't need to tell or make SoB jokes because the SoBs are already a joke to begin with. *sets count-down clock for Lynata/Mellissia's arrival*
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Post by: pretre
Fair enough, that should cut down on the joke posts then...
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Post by: LutherMax
Azreal13 wrote:
That aside, does this thread now hold some sort of record for the most mileage from the least information?
Well, I had a dream last night there were finally some leaked pictures of Blood Angels and the first was a plastic Astorath :O
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Post by: The Division Of Joy
H.B.M.C. wrote:It's understandable that you don't get it Hybrid. You're a SoB player after all, and historically they lack any sense of humour. I think it stems from not playing a real army, or an army that anyone cares about (except other SoB players).
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
H.B.M.C. wrote:3. This post is me ridiculing you for not understanding that it was a joke (because you're a SoB player, etc. etc.).
Posting a joke designed to be inflammatory and create flamewar is trolling, you know.
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Post by: Zande4
Trolling has lost it's original meaning, it can be used for goofing around, mildly amusing at someone or something's expense or not conforming with the norm.
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Post by: sockwithaticket
When did taking the piss become the spark for a flamewar / equated with trolling?
This thread has become a strangely predictable emotional rollercoaster:
See new post.
"Oh Em Gee, pictures!" Click.
New content turns out to be speculation, profession of disappointment at the lack of new information or discussion as to the nature of the Blood Angels. Often, it's all three.
Die a little inside.
I am fully aware that this post only contributes to that, for which I am sort of sorry.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
You're impossible. Everyone else gets it. Why must you always be the exception?
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Post by: Desteele
Mavnas wrote: Azreal13 wrote:
No, it was what is known, in some circles, as a "joke."
That aside, does this thread now hold some sort of record for the most mileage from the least information?
No, I'm pretty sure actual SoB threads have you beat there. Incidentally, I think the disappointment of the last few I saw are why no one is talking about these rumors in their own thread yet.
Too true, not worth starting one unless we get more ‘solid’ information. Also demoralisation is a reason lots of Sister players are not bothering to respond to people trying to get a rise out of the them.
Yes, it has got that bad 
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
 plastictrees wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Or a formation:
Purer than Pure
1+ Squads of Sisters of Battle
Humanity's Shield: Any squad that takes casualties that can draw LOS to a friendly Sisters of Battle unit may ignore 1 failed save for every Sister within LOS. Remove the Sisters instead.
Faith's Sacrifice: Whenever a Daemonic unit enters play, remove one squad of Sisters of Battle. That Daemonic unit takes 1d6 wounds. Take saves as normal.
I like the direction, the rules need to be just a bit better. You need to strike just the right balance between encouraging people to spend $100 on a unit of Sisters and then filling them with unending despair when that unit barely appears on the table.
I suggest the following tweak:
Humanity`s Shield: Leave your Sisters at home (proof of purchase required). All other units in your army receive a 3+ invulnerable save.
Nah, then you get WAAC buggers forging proof of purchase.
What you do is glue the sisters onto any vehicles. That vehicle gains a 3+ invul.
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Post by: Theophony
I was wondering if this is actual storyline for a progression of the timeline of 40k. Are they trying to squat the nids and blood Angels both at the same time? I mean you have the Nids come in and swallow up all the Blood Angels and their decendents and begin making new generations of broodlings including the overpowered Astrofex and Baal Carnifex (which this splinter of the hive won't share with the other splinters). After a short time random members of the hive will become really angry and start calling the other splinters "traitor" and wearing black and acting all Emo.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Nah. With 40K it's less about advancing the story and more about filling in the blanks.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
H.B.M.C. wrote:
You're impossible. Everyone else gets it. Why must you always be the exception?
Because I am stupid?
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Post by: Andilus Greatsword
H.B.M.C. wrote:
You're impossible. Everyone else gets it. Why must you always be the exception?
Yeah I think it was pretty obvious that all the Sisters jokes were just that: jokes. ( btw, I play Sisters as well)
Considering the treatment the Sisters have gotten from GW, it's pretty justified as well (if not a bit too easy... like your mom!).
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Post by: Sarouan
H.B.M.C. wrote:It's understandable that you don't get it Hybrid. You're a SoB player after all, and historically they lack any sense of humour. I think it stems from not playing a real army, or an army that anyone cares about (except other SoB players).
No, we have sense of humour...it just involves flamethrowers and melta guns, so usually, our jokes are one-sided.
But hey, at least what remains after this can be called black humour. Haha! What? It's not funny? That's because you don't play SoB, I guess.
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Post by: Manchu
Rule Number Two is Stay On Topic. Please take the SoB player discussion to another thread. Thanks!
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Post by: Anpu42
So nothing more on the Seminary Terminator Rumor...
To bad I liked that concept.
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Post by: Andilus Greatsword
 Anpu42 wrote:So nothing more on the Seminary Terminator Rumor...
To bad I liked that concept.
Was it even a rumour? It might have just been the echo chamber wish-listing.
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Post by: Anpu42
 Andilus Greatsword wrote: Anpu42 wrote:So nothing more on the Seminary Terminator Rumor...
To bad I liked that concept.
Was it even a rumour? It might have just been the echo chamber wish-listing.
It was a real early one, from a few months ago.
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Post by: evildrcheese
I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
I can't believe we've still had nothing concrete. Getting past the point of frustration visiting this thread hoping for news and there being none.
Do we even have a price for the Leviathan book yet?
D
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Post by: Anpu42
evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
D
Yes, I took it with a gain of salt, but I still have my fingers crossed.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
I can't believe we've still had nothing concrete. Getting past the point of frustration visiting this thread hoping for news and there being none.
Do we even have a price for the Leviathan book yet?
D
$75 American.
We at least know there's a campaign going on in the Blood Angels home system.
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
Honestly im surprised we made it this far without being locked for no news..
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Post by: th3maninblak
Thing is there has been news. Accurate rumors from lords of war gaming and sporadic news from other sources, not to mention its almost assured that we will be in part 2 of the new campaign.
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Post by: DO IT TO IT
I bet we'll have something interesting when next week's WD leaks on Monday. At least I hope so.
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Post by: th3maninblak
I hope so too, but Blood Angels players have been dumped on for a long time, and the activeness of this thread with so little information shows just how ready we are for a new book that DOESNT suck and for GW to just pay a little attention to us. After 2 editions of straight nerfs and being the last marine dex left in the stone age, not to mention seeing 2 books get updated TWICE before us, its no wonder we are all impatient, frustrated, and exceptionally pissed off.
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Post by: evildrcheese
At this point I'm used to it. (My other army is SoB).
D
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
the feels bro, i has them
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Post by: th3maninblak
Might be time to close this thread after all. The week 43 teaser for white dwarf in next weeks issue says "return to the end tumes". Fan-freaking-tastic. Whatever, guess we're gonna wait another year.
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Post by: Kanluwen
th3maninblak wrote:Might be time to close this thread after all. The week 43 teaser for white dwarf in next weeks issue says "return to the end tumes". Fan-freaking-tastic. Whatever, guess we're gonna wait another year.
...
OR you could step back and recognize that the campaign boxed set has still not been released.
If you look at how the release for the previous 40k campaign went, then you would realize that Space Wolves did not get their new book until after the Stormclaw box came out.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
Wow, could you be any more dramatic?
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Post by: mikhaila
As with many of these campaign books, supplies are limited.
If you have an FLGS, I'd strongly suggest getting in a pre-order with them. It might help with how many they are allowed by GW this coming monday.
If you don't have a FLGS, be diligent in ordering from the website early, or talking to the manager of your local GW.
JMHO
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Post by: th3maninblak
 Kanluwen wrote: th3maninblak wrote:Might be time to close this thread after all. The week 43 teaser for white dwarf in next weeks issue says "return to the end tumes". Fan-freaking-tastic. Whatever, guess we're gonna wait another year.
...
OR you could step back and recognize that the campaign boxed set has still not been released.
If you look at how the release for the previous 40k campaign went, then you would realize that Space Wolves did not get their new book until after the Stormclaw box came out.
Except... theres no mention of a boxed set or continuation of the campaign. Just end times.
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Post by: UltraPrime
th3maninblak wrote: Kanluwen wrote: th3maninblak wrote:Might be time to close this thread after all. The week 43 teaser for white dwarf in next weeks issue says "return to the end tumes". Fan-freaking-tastic. Whatever, guess we're gonna wait another year.
...
OR you could step back and recognize that the campaign boxed set has still not been released.
If you look at how the release for the previous 40k campaign went, then you would realize that Space Wolves did not get their new book until after the Stormclaw box came out.
Except... theres no mention of a boxed set or continuation of the campaign. Just end times.
The previous book-box-book campaign was not a 3-week release you know.
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Post by: valkyriePROfail
Anpu42 wrote: evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
D
Yes, I took it with a gain of salt, but I still have my fingers crossed.
A sanguinary termy would be a sanguinary guard with invul. save.
We dont need new models, just improve what we already have. Can SG ever be competitive? i dont think so, but its an important improvement to begin with.
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Post by: evildrcheese
valkyriePROfail wrote: Anpu42 wrote: evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
D
Yes, I took it with a gain of salt, but I still have my fingers crossed.
A sanguinary termy would be a sanguinary guard with invul. save.
We dont need new models, just improve what we already have. Can SG ever be competitive? i dont think so, but its an important improvement to begin with.
I thought the sang termies were a special BA termie kit? Or dk you mean rules wise it's like giving them an invul?
In terms if making them useful, bigger squads would help, as long as it came with a massive points drop. Even then, there's still be better options. Access to stormshields since we never get +1attack because of stupid 2 handed weapons.
D
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Post by: Kirasu
Besides totally breaking the fluff for sanguinary guard that might work.. Although the poster could have meant sanguinary priest terminator models as well.
Makes absolutely no sense to have sanguinary guard in terminator armor since they're not terminators or 1st company vets.
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Post by: th3maninblak
3 changes that would make sanguinary guard awesome: give them the forgeworld version of glaive encarmines (master crafted 2 handed power swords, but +1 str on the charge), drop them to 30 points, and make angelus pattern bolters 18 inch range.
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Post by: SolentSanguine
evildrcheese wrote: valkyriePROfail wrote: Anpu42 wrote: evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
D
Yes, I took it with a gain of salt, but I still have my fingers crossed.
A sanguinary termy would be a sanguinary guard with invul. save.
We dont need new models, just improve what we already have. Can SG ever be competitive? i dont think so, but its an important improvement to begin with.
I thought the sang termies were a special BA termie kit? Or dk you mean rules wise it's like giving them an invul?
In terms if making them useful, bigger squads would help, as long as it came with a massive points drop. Even then, there's still be better options. Access to stormshields since we never get +1attack because of stupid 2 handed weapons.
D
I think the sanguinary terminators were really just the Space Hulk terminators and whoever saw them just didn't recognise them. About the same time (last December?) there were also rumours of push fit BA for a starter box - could they have just been the BA terminators as well?!
But for wishlisting - I'd love a clampack sanguinary priest in terminator armour! ;-)
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
SolentSanguine wrote: evildrcheese wrote: valkyriePROfail wrote: Anpu42 wrote: evildrcheese wrote:I call BS on it, the rumour that talked about sang termies suggested they would be here by now.
D
Yes, I took it with a gain of salt, but I still have my fingers crossed.
A sanguinary termy would be a sanguinary guard with invul. save.
We dont need new models, just improve what we already have. Can SG ever be competitive? i dont think so, but its an important improvement to begin with.
I thought the sang termies were a special BA termie kit? Or dk you mean rules wise it's like giving them an invul?
In terms if making them useful, bigger squads would help, as long as it came with a massive points drop. Even then, there's still be better options. Access to stormshields since we never get +1attack because of stupid 2 handed weapons.
D
I think the sanguinary terminators were really just the Space Hulk terminators and whoever saw them just didn't recognise them. About the same time (last December?) there were also rumours of push fit BA for a starter box - could they have just been the BA terminators as well?!
But for wishlisting - I'd love a clampack sanguinary priest in terminator armour! ;-)
That starter was supposed to include orks though, not bugs. Seems odd they just reused the DV box set instead of making a new one but oh well. I was truly looking foreword to the BA/orks set.
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Post by: Kirasu
That starter was supposed to include orks though, not bugs. Seems odd they just reused the DV box set instead of making a new one but oh well. I was truly looking foreword to the BA/orks set.
Why was it *supposed* to be BA and orks? GW probably had this planned out long before this rumor thread ever started.. It was never supposed to be anything other than what it *is*.
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
 Kirasu wrote:That starter was supposed to include orks though, not bugs. Seems odd they just reused the DV box set instead of making a new one but oh well. I was truly looking foreword to the BA/orks set.
Why was it *supposed* to be BA and orks? GW probably had this planned out long before this rumor thread ever started.. It was never supposed to be anything other than what it *is*.
sup·posed
səˈpōzd,səˈpōzəd/
adjective
adjective: supposed
generally assumed or believed to be the case, but not necessarily so.
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Post by: tomjoad
LOL at somebody using 'dictionary definition' to settle a debate like we were a bunch of 5th graders.
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Post by: LutherMax
@ mikhaila, nice pumpkins!
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Post by: th3maninblak
Post dark eldar saw an explosion of BA rumors from both known and unknown sources. Before then we had the huge false alarm that was the orks vs ba boxed set. Those have been the only BA rumor sets we have had thus far. I still keep remembering my conversation with the guy from LoWG who insisted we would see the codex released in december. But that would be a super odd thing for GW to do...
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Post by: Bull0
 tomjoad wrote:LOL at somebody using 'dictionary definition' to settle a debate like we were a bunch of 5th graders.
That's an extremely poor contribution. Kirasu clearly misunderstood what thatguyhasagun was saying - when discussing rumours, what's "supposed" to happen is obviously what the rumours are saying will happen, and not what is somehow preordained, fated, or "meant to" happen, so the jedi que sera sera thing was all wrong. Explaining that with the definition of supposed seemed fairly effective. It settled it thoroughly, from what I can see.
I'm joining th3maninblak and calling for a thread lock, this is cancer.
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Post by: LutherMax
Leviathan is up for pre-order:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Shield-of-Baal-Leviathan-English
From the description:
A major tendril from Hive Fleet Leviathan pushes through the cold void towards the Shieldworlds of the Cryptus System. Loathe to abandon a key territory – especially one so close to the Blood Angels’ home system of Baal - the forces of the Astra Militarum and Adepta Sororitas prepare to defend the region with their lives.
So no mention of Blood Angels yet!
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Sold Out?
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Anyhow, I am surprised the Sisters are actually mentioned in the description. Are they going to be just butchered or not?
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Post by: godswildcard
"...[this product] ...has been printed in only in English."
I lol'd.
"We speak English! We Delivery!"
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Post by: LutherMax
Sold out already?! Jeez...
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Post by: Bull0
Fully had enough of all this bloody limited edition, collectors' edition, while stocks last fething shenanigans. If you want people to play your game, make all the gak they need available. GW will have nobody to blame but themselves when they go skull-tits up.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Chill out.
The stock that is gone was the stock exclusively earmarked for the webstore and preorders made through the webstore at a GW shop.
Shops get a certain number of copies allocated to them in addition to whatever their preorder copies were.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Is there a digital edition? Or, in other word, how long before someone can sum up the content for us  ?
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Post by: Bull0
Kanluwen wrote:Chill out.
The stock that is gone was the stock exclusively earmarked for the webstore and preorders made through the webstore at a GW shop.
Shops get a certain number of copies allocated to them in addition to whatever their preorder copies were.
You chill out. If I were pissed off because *I* didn't get a copy, then you'd have a point, but I'm not - I don't want it - the point is these flash-in-the-pan products are killing 40k, and I grew up with 40k, so it bums me out. It pisses me off because it only caters to the hardcore, and the hardcore alone are not going to be enough to keep 40k alive. The fact that you can go and likely get a copy on release day instore is very little compensation - the point I was making is big flagship products from GW are consistently limited releases, and that's no way to grow the player base, etc.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Them selling out does not equate to a "limited release", Bull.
That means they sold out.
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
 Bull0 wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Chill out.
The stock that is gone was the stock exclusively earmarked for the webstore and preorders made through the webstore at a GW shop.
Shops get a certain number of copies allocated to them in addition to whatever their preorder copies were.
You chill out. If I were pissed off because *I* didn't get a copy, then you'd have a point, but I'm not - I don't want it - the point is these flash-in-the-pan products are killing 40k, and I grew up with 40k, so it bums me out. It pisses me off because it only caters to the hardcore, and the hardcore alone are not going to be enough to keep 40k alive. The fact that you can go and likely get a copy on release day instore is very little compensation - the point I was making is big flagship products from GW are consistently limited releases, and that's no way to grow the player base, etc.
I'm with Bull...raging on the inside.
I am in Indonesia, it's Saturday morning here, I just pulled up the website to see what was actually transpiring, and I see that the "Campaign for all Warhammer 40,000 fans" is greyed out and "Sold Out."
So, semantics and stocking issues aside, it's frustrating. Especially to someone without a GW shop or even a FLGS. So, yeah, I don't get the marketing strategy, and instead of being a bit excited this morning (though as pointed out "Baal" is the only BA-related item at present), instead I am vaguely bummed out.
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
Kanluwen wrote:Them selling out does not equate to a "limited release", Bull.
That means they sold out.
It's almost as if stocks are a finite thing.
Given the lack of any language calling this a limited edition (which has been plastered all over everything that has been LE prior to this), I'd guess we're just looking at them having sold all the copies currently available. Which is actually a good thing for GW. Means, they underestimated demand which is not great, but way better than overestimating, lol.
There will still be the copies which were earmarked for in-store purchases.
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Post by: Azreal13
Conspiracy time: These things are coming out in limited quantities because GW only has the cash flow to order them in limited quantities...
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
 Azreal13 wrote:Conspiracy time: These things are coming out in limited quantities because GW only has the cash flow to order them in limited quantities...
Time=Blown
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Post by: godswildcard
Maybe I'm mad about the wrong thing, but it seems like this book would've been the PERFECT time to give SoB even the tiniest bit of love with some new formations and such, and instead GW have just made them a stepping stone for the Nids.
Unless there is stuff in the book that they done advertise?
If they have no rules at all, I think it's safe to assume that they are there just to get chomped as we know Leviathan goes deeper into the Baal system, don't we?
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Post by: Zande4
There is way to much salt in this thread. It really should be locked.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
 godswildcard wrote:Maybe I'm mad about the wrong thing, but it seems like this book would've been the PERFECT time to give SoB even the tiniest bit of love with some new formations and such, and instead GW have just made them a stepping stone for the Nids.
Unless there is stuff in the book that they done advertise?
If they have no rules at all, I think it's safe to assume that they are there just to get chomped as we know Leviathan goes deeper into the Baal system, don't we?
As far as I know, nobody has any idea if they have rules in the book or not. For all we know, maybe they are using this as an excuse to release plastic Sisters in two weeks, maybe they are using the same trick they used with the squat to justify removing all Sisters models from their product line.
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Post by: plastictrees
The Squat thing wasn't a trick, that was a retroactive fluff nod. This would be proactive army obliteration. Which seems pretty pointless, SoBs are barely supported as it is, it's not as if they are draining resources.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
godswildcard wrote:Maybe I'm mad about the wrong thing, but it seems like this book would've been the PERFECT time to give SoB even the tiniest bit of love with some new formations and such, and instead GW have just made them a stepping stone for the Nids.
Their presence in the book is GW showing the SoBs a little love.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
H.B.M.C. wrote: godswildcard wrote:Maybe I'm mad about the wrong thing, but it seems like this book would've been the PERFECT time to give SoB even the tiniest bit of love with some new formations and such, and instead GW have just made them a stepping stone for the Nids.
Their presence in the book is GW showing the SoBs a little love.
More like taking the opportunity to wipe the SoB out.
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Post by: TiamatRoar
SoBs being "shown love" by being a footnote to be stomped on as a speedbump by whoever's codex or campaign or whatever else they're appearing in has been a time-honored GW tradition for a long time, now.
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Post by: Bull0
Kanluwen wrote:Them selling out does not equate to a "limited release", Bull.
That means they sold out.
Oh, my bad, if they sell out of something that means it's still available easily, little Timmy's grandmother will be able to get him a copy for Christmas, etc. No wait, it means it isn't available, which means everything I said is perfectly valid, and you're just splitting hairs on the specific wording. It sold out of the clearly very limited stock that was available and there are no published plans (and almost certainly no internal plans) to reprint it later. That's limited in every meaningful sense of the word, in terms of what it means for the line, which (apparently I have to repeat) is what I care about, and not the semantics of "limited release", "special edition", "too hot for TV uncut edition", etc. Or to adopt your flat, condescending style:
Writing limited edition on it does not make it a limited release, Kanluwen.
Making it limited makes it limited.
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Post by: LutherMax
It says what it contains in the description, copied below. And it does say "available only while stocks last" at the bottom, which sounds like limited release to me.
HOWEVER, there will be copies available in stores for a while longer I think (ala Space Hulk) and there is a digital edition which is slightly cheaper. AND, more relevant to this particular thread, in today's White Dwarf it says:
"... when you realise the planets being fought over are called the Shields of Baal and that, should they fall, Hive Fleet Leviathan would be free to invade the Blood Angel's home world. Judging by events so far, the Imperium may need reinforcements..."
The Blood Angels WILL be involved in this campaign!
A major tendril from Hive Fleet Leviathan pushes through the cold void towards the Shieldworlds of the Cryptus System. Loathe to abandon a key territory – especially one so close to the Blood Angels’ home system of Baal - the forces of the Astra Militarum and Adepta Sororitas prepare to defend the region with their lives.
Presented in a deluxe slipcase, this two-book set is brimming with all-new Warhammer 40,000 content.
Book one is a 152 page narrative book containing:
• A wealth of background describing how the Cryptus System became embroiled in conflict
• A blow by blow account of the key events of the invasion and the major battles
• Descriptions of famous regiments that took part in the conflict including their background, colour schemes and heraldries
• Brand new artwork showing the planets, space stations and environments found within the Cryptus System
Book two is a 64 page rulebook that enables you to play games set during the invasion of the Cryptus System:
• 6 new Echoes of War missions to test your mettle
• Cities of Death rules for fighting games of Warhammer 40,000 amongst the war torn streets of destroyed cities
• 6 Cities of Death missions and 36 tactical objectives
• Rules for Death From The Skies, allowing you to include fighter aces in your Warhammer 40,000 battles
• New Tyranids detachment rules and Warlord Traits to represent the composition of the forces of Hive Fleet Leviathan
• New Datasheets for the Mucalid Spore Cluster, Zoanthrope Brood, Maleceptor, Toxicrene, Tyrannocyte, Sporocyst and Mucolid Spore
• 6 new Tyranids formations
This product is available only while stocks last, and has been printed in only in English.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Well given how close it takes place to Ba'al, it'd kinda have to involve the Blood Angels eventually.
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Post by: LutherMax
Yeah I think that's we all figured, still nice to have it from the horse's mouth, so to speak
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Post by: valkyriePROfail
If only it was confirmed that we finally have access to red stormtalons I would happily start painting them while we wait for the new dex. But not even that, still damn rumorology everywhere.
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Post by: wuestenfux
Bronzefists42 wrote:When did GW suddenly decide "hhmmmnnn let's fix Tyranids."
Its like they're...LISTENING!
No, I guess not.
They took the opportunity to give the Nids some drop pods and some more models, since Nids didn't sell very well.
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Post by: Wonderwolf
wuestenfux wrote: Bronzefists42 wrote:When did GW suddenly decide "hhmmmnnn let's fix Tyranids."
Its like they're...LISTENING!
No, I guess not.
They took the opportunity to give the Nids some drop pods and some more models, since Nids didn't sell very well.
Developing such a model from concept to having it in stores takes a lot longer than the 10 months or so since the Tyranid Codex. That one's been in the pipeline before the latest Tyranid Codex was released.
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Post by: Scrub
It's been confirmed that the sprues are dated from 2013. These kits have been planned for a while regardless.
edit: What Wonderwolf said!
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Post by: th3maninblak
More rumors. Its from Natfka, so take with a grain of salt. Apparently the rumor came with a product code, which has been blocked out.
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/11/shield-of-baal-exterminatus.html?m=1
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Post by: adamsouza
For those workblocked
The next book is going to be called the Shield of Baal: Exterminatus according to a reader here on Faeit 212. Not only that, but it appears there is a codex Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard edition (most likely a limited edition codex or special edition codex). There is also mention of Blood Angel datacards.
I only have what was posted in the comment section here, and it seems like it could be legit. Hard to say at the moment, so please remember that this is a rumor.
via e9832a04-6d07-11e4-9637-1fd442c0eb49
or conspiracynutt (was posted under both names)
Ok, this is either going to go down like a lead balloon or I may have just found the holy grail of rumour farming!!!!
So here goes, the next book being released for the campaign is....
Shield of Baal:Exterminatus.
Not only that but the Blood angels codex is coming with this funky little tidbit:
Codex Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard Edition
As well as:
Product Code Blood Angels Data Cards(English)
I know people will throw salt all over this, but I believe it is genuine and I have proof but I just don't want to give it away just yet in case Games Workshop patch that particular hole because it could be a potential gold mine for info.
Also here is the latest from Nightfury if you dont happen to read down to the comment sections.
"The Sanguinary Guard edition will be similar to the wolfguard limited edition SW codex with counters and an artfolio.. should go up for preorders the last week in november if the timetable is correct along with the much anticipated LE boxed set that will almost certainly include the new tyranid broodlord i told you about a few weeks ago"
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Post by: LutherMax
Finally, some hope!
There definitely is a Brood Lord coming, it's on the front of the new Nids painting book. Maybe it will be exclusive to the boxed set...
Out of interest, what was the gap between the two Stormclaw books..?
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Post by: pretre
He probably figured out another way to fish for products on the website again...
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Post by: Mr Morden
Apparently I have to ask on Tryanid and Blood Angel threads about SoB presence in this new Shield pack - not allowed a general thread on the rules pack, so what info do we actually have on non marine Imperial forces having any actual content in the pack.................
so if you have any issues about asking here -
ou are about 4 weeks late buddy. Check the tyranid and blood angel rumor threads. In the meantime, someone lock this thread please?
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Post by: Carnage43
 Mr Morden wrote:Apparently I have to ask on Tryanid and Blood Angel threads about SoB presence in this new Shield pack - not allowed a general thread so what info do we actually have on non marine Imperial forces having any actual content in the pack.................
Best case scenario is 1 or 2 formations and a special character.
In all likelihood, they get nothing.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
 Carnage43 wrote: Mr Morden wrote:Apparently I have to ask on Tryanid and Blood Angel threads about SoB presence in this new Shield pack - not allowed a general thread so what info do we actually have on non marine Imperial forces having any actual content in the pack.................
Best case scenario is 1 or 2 formations and a special character.
In all likelihood, they get nothing.
Yeah, so far it seems like nothing beyond a fluff inclusion. The product description makes it sound as if everything in the book is all Tyranids, all the time.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Oh goodie, more limited release nonsense, either GW are completely happy leaving a lot of people's money on the table, or they are having to seriously cut back on production and warehousing costs in order to massage the financials before the next report.
If it is the latter, it's a shame, I think a lot of folk hoped that once they got to the point that they had to cut directly into their own short-to-medium-term revenue generating capacity in order to keep their current business strategy viable, rather than sacrificing only long-term viability and market share, they'd reevaluate and change direction.
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Post by: Azreal13
 Yodhrin wrote:Oh goodie, more limited release nonsense, either GW are completely happy leaving a lot of people's money on the table, or they are having to seriously cut back on production and warehousing costs in order to massage the financials before the next report.
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I've had the same thought, and initially thought it was ridiculous, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. The Limited Edition stuff (as opposed to simply all the limited supply) represents a much better return on capital investment if one's funds are limited, then use whatever is left over in the budget to order standard stuff for the plebs.
If it sells well enough to warrant a restock, then there's always next month.
It also appears to be books, which I believe GW outsource, that keep shorting, whereas minis (in general) seem to be much more freely available.
Dammit, I'm beginning to convince myself. I'll have a wall covered in pictures connected by pins with string tied to them by Christmas!
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
Somebody on the B&C pointed out that in the YouTube trailer for SoB, the SoB are the only army not represented by actual models, but instead by a piece of art from the codex.
Now, one reasonable explanation is that there just aren't a lot of Sisters of Battle glamor shots in the GW library (remember, all current images are shot on Realm of Battle Boards with GW craters and GW buildings and GW fortifications and GW terrain bits, which may limit what archive shots they are allowed to use in their style guide). But it's an interesting question.
I'd guess that the Sisters are getting an in-text mention as defenders of this planet or that before they get eaten. Though to be fair, it sounds like that's what's going to happen to all of the Imperial forces in this update since it seems to be nearly all Tyranids and coincides with a Tyranid model release.
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Post by: Kirasu
Hope is the first step to disappointment. SoB players should just close their eyes and forget SoB even exist! Then life will be so much better when you don't have to even think about your army being totally forgotten.
It's doubtful they'll get anything other than an honorable mention. Now back to BA talk!
Sorta weird calling it the Sanguinary Guard edition considering there are only like 29 Sanguinary Guard... not exactly an army. However, GW hasn't been very good at "naming things" in awhile.
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Post by: adamsouza
It's suppossed to let you feel special, because you are the Sanguinary Guard, since it is your book.
I'd rather drink blood than pay whatever ridiculous amount they'll be asking for it.
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Post by: MrFlutterPie
 Veteran Sergeant wrote:Somebody on the B&C pointed out that in the YouTube trailer for SoB, the SoB are the only army not represented by actual models, but instead by a piece of art from the codex.
Now, one reasonable explanation is that there just aren't a lot of Sisters of Battle glamor shots in the GW library (remember, all current images are shot on Realm of Battle Boards with GW craters and GW buildings and GW fortifications and GW terrain bits, which may limit what archive shots they are allowed to use in their style guide). But it's an interesting question.
I'd guess that the Sisters are getting an in-text mention as defenders of this planet or that before they get eaten. Though to be fair, it sounds like that's what's going to happen to all of the Imperial forces in this update since it seems to be nearly all Tyranids and coincides with a Tyranid model release.
Which video is this?
Sometimes I feel like sob are the bastard child that GW father one night accidentally while drunk having a one night stand. They only update the rules when their wages are gari...errr feeling a rare moment of parental responsibility.
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Post by: th3maninblak
Well, everything listed on natfka lines up perfectly with LoWG. The boxed set being in this upcoming saturdays white dwarf, followed by the BA codex the week after (29th of november) along with preorders for that and part 3 of Shield of Baal would put the release on december 6th, meaning that A) lords of wars prediction of a december codex release was right and B) games workshop wont be spoiling anything new during the month of december. Not sure how i didnt make this connection before...
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Post by: Sidstyler
Not to further piss off Blood Angels players or anything, but I wish GW would come completely out of left field and put out a huge Sisters of Battle release for December; new codex, entire new miniature range rolled out over the course of the month and finishing up just before Christmas, etc. BA could come in the last part of the campaign for a January or February release or something, I dunno, all they need is a codex anyway because the miniature range is fine. I know it won't happen, but still...
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
 MrFlutterPie wrote: Veteran Sergeant wrote:Somebody on the B&C pointed out that in the YouTube trailer for SoB, the SoB are the only army not represented by actual models, but instead by a piece of art from the codex.
Now, one reasonable explanation is that there just aren't a lot of Sisters of Battle glamor shots in the GW library (remember, all current images are shot on Realm of Battle Boards with GW craters and GW buildings and GW fortifications and GW terrain bits, which may limit what archive shots they are allowed to use in their style guide). But it's an interesting question.
I'd guess that the Sisters are getting an in-text mention as defenders of this planet or that before they get eaten. Though to be fair, it sounds like that's what's going to happen to all of the Imperial forces in this update since it seems to be nearly all Tyranids and coincides with a Tyranid model release.
Which video is this?
Sometimes I feel like sob are the bastard child that GW father one night accidentally while drunk having a one night stand. They only update the rules when their wages are gari...errr feeling a rare moment of parental responsibility.
Eh, it's happened to several model lines. Squats, Genestealer Cult. Chaos Cult for a while. Arbites to a lesser extent (weren't really an "army" per se).
At least unlike the Squats and Stealers, GW did the right thing and kept releasing new rules so Sisters players could keep playing with their models. I mean, the other option is to have the army be completely discarded and be sitting on a pile of worthless figures.
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Post by: Anpu42
 Sidstyler wrote:Not to further piss off Blood Angels players or anything, but I wish GW would come completely out of left field and put out a huge Sisters of Battle release for December; new codex, entire new miniature range rolled out over the course of the month and finishing up just before Christmas, etc. BA could come in the last part of the campaign for a January or February release or something, I dunno, all they need is a codex anyway because the miniature range is fine. I know it won't happen, but still...
I don't know of a single BA player who would truly be pissed of by that.
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Post by: th3maninblak
Anpu42 wrote: Sidstyler wrote:Not to further piss off Blood Angels players or anything, but I wish GW would come completely out of left field and put out a huge Sisters of Battle release for December; new codex, entire new miniature range rolled out over the course of the month and finishing up just before Christmas, etc. BA could come in the last part of the campaign for a January or February release or something, I dunno, all they need is a codex anyway because the miniature range is fine. I know it won't happen, but still...
I don't know of a single BA player who would truly be pissed of by that.
I know of a lot of BA players who would be pissed off by that...
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Post by: adamsouza
It's nice to hear that it looks like Blood Angels will be dropping in for the Holidays !!
Veteran Sergeant wrote:Eh, it's happened to several model lines. Squats, Genestealer Cult. Chaos Cult for a while. Arbites to a lesser extent (weren't really an "army" per se).
Squats, Genestealer Cults, and Adeptus Arbiters haven't had legit army rules since 2nd Edition, and all their model ranges predate that.
Adepta Sororitas just have the priveledge of having the worst supported of all the current model lines and a digtal only codex.
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Post by: plastictrees
Calling the models available to Genestealer Cults and Arbites a 'range' is a bit of a stretch as well. We're talking about handfuls of minis here. There really is no precedent for the removal of an army from 40k on the scale of the Sisters. Nostalgia and raving internet lunacy has really exaggerated the significance of the Squat removal.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
I am going to have to make sure I get one of those boxed sets. Hopefully the preorders pop up one of my days off. Otherwise it is up to the FLGS to get one. Luckily I have one FLGS that has several Stormclaw boxes in stock. I hope they have the same sort of situation for the BAvBugs box.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
I wonder if they will address the bit of nid fluff that always bugged me (no pun intended) - how they can eat a planet in days.
It sort of makes fighting them especially pointless.
I would prefer that nids take years to eat a planet so there's at least some hope of dislodging them.
adamsouza wrote:IGenestealer Cults haven't had legit army rules since 2nd Edition, and all their model ranges predate that.
My Citadel Journals beg to differ with you.
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Post by: Kirasu
Has this thread devolved so far that we are seriously discussing nonsense armies like Genestealer cults, arbites and squats?? What in the world does that have to do with Blood Angels?
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Post by: wuestenfux
Azreal13 wrote: Yodhrin wrote:Oh goodie, more limited release nonsense, either GW are completely happy leaving a lot of people's money on the table, or they are having to seriously cut back on production and warehousing costs in order to massage the financials before the next report.
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I've had the same thought, and initially thought it was ridiculous, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. The Limited Edition stuff (as opposed to simply all the limited supply) represents a much better return on capital investment if one's funds are limited, then use whatever is left over in the budget to order standard stuff for the plebs.
If it sells well enough to warrant a restock, then there's always next month.
It also appears to be books, which I believe GW outsource, that keep shorting, whereas minis (in general) seem to be much more freely available.
Dammit, I'm beginning to convince myself. I'll have a wall covered in pictures connected by pins with string tied to them by Christmas!
Oh my goodness. This seems to be damn right.
The LE stuff however often seems to be too limited.
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Post by: endlesswaltz123
 Kid_Kyoto wrote:I wonder if they will address the bit of nid fluff that always bugged me (no pun intended) - how they can eat a planet in days.
It sort of makes fighting them especially pointless.
I would prefer that nids take years to eat a planet so there's at least some hope of dislodging them.
adamsouza wrote:IGenestealer Cults haven't had legit army rules since 2nd Edition, and all their model ranges predate that.
My Citadel Journals beg to differ with you.
The trick with nids though is, it can take days to eat a planet with little resistance, but with resistance, they will struggle to get enough feeder ships in proximity with enough tendrils on the ground to do it that fast.
Also, Nids suffer like no other army from the whole 'cut off it's head' syndrome, take out the hive ship(s) and they tend to fall apart instantly. What I mean by that is, it may take them a few days to eat a planet, but a well equipped and tactically sound commander can stop them in a matter of hours.
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Post by: The Division Of Joy
It's bad enough we have the SoB tears in here...
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Post by: LutherMax
MrFlutterPie wrote: Veteran Sergeant wrote:Somebody on the B&C pointed out that in the YouTube trailer for SoB, the SoB are the only army not represented by actual models, but instead by a piece of art from the codex.
Now, one reasonable explanation is that there just aren't a lot of Sisters of Battle glamor shots in the GW library (remember, all current images are shot on Realm of Battle Boards with GW craters and GW buildings and GW fortifications and GW terrain bits, which may limit what archive shots they are allowed to use in their style guide). But it's an interesting question.
I'd guess that the Sisters are getting an in-text mention as defenders of this planet or that before they get eaten. Though to be fair, it sounds like that's what's going to happen to all of the Imperial forces in this update since it seems to be nearly all Tyranids and coincides with a Tyranid model release.
Which video is this?
Sometimes I feel like sob are the bastard child that GW father one night accidentally while drunk having a one night stand. They only update the rules when their wages are gari...errr feeling a rare moment of parental responsibility.
Shield Of Baal Leviathan video:
[video=youtube;YSZh-g2Vo08]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YSZh-g2Vo08[/video]
I noticed that too about the Sisters only being shown in artwork form - and just one frame too. I think book 1 is mainly aimed at Nids players and hopefully (for me at least) book 2 will coincide with Blood Angels release.
Edit: not sure how to get the direct link to the video but you can view it from this page:
http://www.astronomican.com/showthread.php?22107-GW-Rumours&p=420207#post420207
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Post by: Wonderwolf
Sidstyler wrote:Not to further piss off Blood Angels players or anything, but I wish GW would come completely out of left field and put out a huge Sisters of Battle release for December; new codex, entire new miniature range rolled out over the course of the month and finishing up just before Christmas, etc. BA could come in the last part of the campaign for a January or February release or something, I dunno, all they need is a codex anyway because the miniature range is fine. I know it won't happen, but still...
GW already came completely out of the left field (at least as clueless rumour-mongers went) by releasing first Space Hulk and then a bunch of post-Codex wave of Tyranids.
As much as it will play to click-baiters who will keep on predicting the predictable until they are right (cue BoLS Necron rumours for the past 6-7 months or so), GW will likely need to return to the predictable eventually, at least for a time.
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Post by: Warhams-77
The Sisters are part of the campaign. They fight on Lysios. Their miniatures including tanks are shown in a huge battle shot. There are no new SOB models like some speculation has popped up on the web. I found this specific photo in the iBook preview. It also contains parts of book two, The Rules, explaining how to use the new material in your games of Warhammer 40,000 on page 24-26. The artwork in the books is impressive, unlike e.g. the Crusade of Fire or other puplications before Sanctus Reach, which mostly contained recycled art.
The different planets, the campaign takes part on, are somehow connected to the Tyranid formations. Like the aforementioned flyer one for example which is used in a battle in space (platforms near the gas giant Aeros). The preview version shows all planets of the system, each with a description of the battles and forces involved. I could not find specific information about the other tyranid formations but I haven't read all parts thoroughly.
The eBook preview contains parts of the fluff featuring e.g. Tempestus Scions against Genestealers and a Broodlord
No Blood Angels yet, but there are several parts in the previews where they clearly say, the BA will be attacked next if Leviathan cannot be stopped on the shield worlds. It also says the book is the introduction to a new campaign series. These shield worlds did not fight off the Tyranids, otherwise it would not be a series, right? So BA will be featured in the next book and the rumored campaign set for sure
Everyone having a device (I lent me an old ipad) check out the previews, they are both worth it this time
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Post by: manrogue
Apply plenty of salt because of the source but-
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2014/11/40k-rumours-next-book-shield-of-baal.html
Hello everybody, we have some information about the next part of the Shield of Baal Campaign and the upcoming Blood Angels Release.
Waaaghschale here from Waaaghgaming, bringing you the latest News and Rumours.
via two commenters on Natfka 11-16-2014 (NaCl warnings apply)
via e9832a04-6d07-11e4-9637-1fd442c0eb49 or conspiracynutt (was posted under both names)
Ok, this is either going to go down like a lead balloon or I may have just found the holy grail of rumour farming!!!!
So here goes, the next book being released for the campaign is....
Shield of Baal:Exterminatus.
Not only that but the Blood angels codex is coming with this funky little tidbit:
Codex Blood Angels Sanguinary Guard Edition
As well as:
Blood Angels Data Cards(English)
I know people will throw salt all over this, but I believe it is genuine and I have proof but I just don't want to give it away just yet in case Games Workshop patch that particular hole because it could be a potential gold mine for info.
via Nightfury
"The Sanguinary Guard edition will be similar to the wolfguard limited edition SW codex with counters and an artfolio.. should go up for preorders the last week in november if the timetable is correct along with the much anticipated LE boxed set that will almost certainly include the new tyranid broodlord i told you about a few weeks ago"
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Post by: godswildcard
The only thing I'm thinking about during all of this is how I need to be by the computer at 2:00 on Friday so that I can try and snag those data cards...
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Post by: evildrcheese
So, everyone is under the impression this Friday is this pre-release date for the campaign boxset, the codex and all the trimmings (data cards etc)? I thought it was back to WFB End Times this week?
D
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
H.B.M.C. wrote:Their presence in the book is GW showing the SoBs a little love.
Completely depend on how they are portrayed.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
If they're consumed like everyone else so the Blood Angels can look even more powerful when they ultimately triumph over the Tyranids, what will that mean for Sisters?
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Post by: th3maninblak
evildrcheese wrote:So, everyone is under the impression this Friday is this pre-release date for the campaign boxset, the codex and all the trimmings (data cards etc)? I thought it was back to WFB End Times this week?
D
Most of the rumors are saying that itll just be and end times novella. That would mean the cover of white dwarf (and main attraction) would be the boxed set, and the novella as an additional article/release. Could be wrong, but it wouldnt make sense to stop the campaign release for a "commercial break".
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Post by: adamsouza
So the only thing we know about Blood Angels at this point is that we won't be seeing any Blood Angel stuff, even though their home world is being attacked, for at least the next 2-3 weeks ?
They should be in the Campaign Box set, but no actual confirmation yet.
Any word on if there will be a codex supplement released along side the main codex, like with Space Wolves ?
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
adamsouza wrote:IGenestealer Cults haven't had legit army rules since 2nd Edition, and all their model ranges predate that.
My Citadel Journals beg to differ with you.
I stand by my statement. Citadel Journal was experimental rules and fan made stuff.
Necrons and Sister's Of Battle at least had White Dwarf Lists.
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Post by: UltraPrime
th3maninblak wrote: evildrcheese wrote:So, everyone is under the impression this Friday is this pre-release date for the campaign boxset, the codex and all the trimmings (data cards etc)? I thought it was back to WFB End Times this week?
D
Most of the rumors are saying that itll just be and end times novella. That would mean the cover of white dwarf (and main attraction) would be the boxed set, and the novella as an additional article/release. Could be wrong, but it wouldnt make sense to stop the campaign release for a "commercial break".
You do remember that Sanctus Reach was not a weekly release?
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Post by: th3maninblak
UltraPrime wrote: th3maninblak wrote: evildrcheese wrote:So, everyone is under the impression this Friday is this pre-release date for the campaign boxset, the codex and all the trimmings (data cards etc)? I thought it was back to WFB End Times this week?
D
Most of the rumors are saying that itll just be and end times novella. That would mean the cover of white dwarf (and main attraction) would be the boxed set, and the novella as an additional article/release. Could be wrong, but it wouldnt make sense to stop the campaign release for a "commercial break".
You do remember that Sanctus Reach was not a weekly release?
Except it totally was.
Red Waaagh+sanctus reach was white dwarf issue 23, while the boxed set was issue 24.
We dont have confirmation of blood angels involvment, but we have known about the nid vs ba boxed set for a month or so now from a VERY reliable rumor source.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
 Sinful Hero wrote:If they're consumed like everyone else so the Blood Angels can look even more powerful when they ultimately triumph over the Tyranids, what will that mean for Sisters?
Did a few hundred Sisters managed to destroy some important tyranid mcguffin at the cost of their lives, defeating a bunch of very powerful tyranid in the process, and buying the Blood Angels the time they needed, or did a few billions Sisters of Battle fell when they were attacked by rippers?
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Post by: endlesswaltz123
Rippers.
Sisters get enough unwarranted support on this place for GW to jump on the band wagon as well.
I mean, are you actually trying to summon Melissa of all people to this thread by even starting the conversation? No one needs that in here...
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Post by: Mr Morden
What is strange is that they are more and more common in BL publications but they can't be bothered to do anythign for them in the actual game
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Post by: Kanluwen
th3maninblak wrote:
Except it totally was.
Red Waaagh+sanctus reach was white dwarf issue 23, while the boxed set was issue 24.
We dont have confirmation of blood angels involvement, but we have known about the nid vs ba boxed set for a month or so now from a VERY reliable rumor source.
"Red Waagh" was book 1(WD23).
' Stormclaw"(the boxed set) was a week later(WD24).
After that, Space Wolves released( WDs 25 to 28).
"Hour of the Wolf" was book 2 and came out with WD29.
So yeah, it wasn't really a "weekly release". You had the first book come out, then the box, and then the army release for Space Wolves. It likely will be the same for Blood Angels with book 2 coming out 4 weeks later.
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Post by: endlesswaltz123
It's been explained many times.
They struggle to do the models justice, bad ass women, that look different to each other in bulky armour yet feminine and then multi pose is hard apparently.
They should just go down the route of the majority of them have those helmets but oh well...
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Post by: Warhams-77
Darnok posted on Warseer next Friday, Nov 21st, will be the preorder date of End Times III - Khaine (the campaign book) with no related model releases. Given his credibility I would consider it confirmed
This does not mean no releases for 40k, more tool releases etc
We just don't know yet except for the quote from the Faeit comment section posted above. If that is correct Codex: BA and related products are going preorder on Friday, 28th
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
They're acknowledging that the SoB's exist. Beggars can't be choosers.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Sinful Hero wrote:If they're consumed like everyone else so the Blood Angels can look even more powerful when they ultimately triumph over the Tyranids, what will that mean for Sisters?
Did a few hundred Sisters managed to destroy some important tyranid mcguffin at the cost of their lives, defeating a bunch of very powerful tyranid in the process, and buying the Blood Angels the time they needed, or did a few billions Sisters of Battle fell when they were attacked by rippers?
"The Blood Angels had all but secured their victory- now they only needed to deliver the virus bomb to the Norn Queen. As they crested the hill, they let out a collective gasp- before them lay an endless field of spore mines. The Sisters of the Ebon Rose stepped forward. They knew this was their duty.
Each Space marine that was present that day now wears a seal that proudly commemorates the Sisters brave and noble sacrifice."
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Post by: BlaxicanX
Sinful Hero wrote: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Sinful Hero wrote:If they're consumed like everyone else so the Blood Angels can look even more powerful when they ultimately triumph over the Tyranids, what will that mean for Sisters?
Did a few hundred Sisters managed to destroy some important tyranid mcguffin at the cost of their lives, defeating a bunch of very powerful tyranid in the process, and buying the Blood Angels the time they needed, or did a few billions Sisters of Battle fell when they were attacked by rippers?
"The Blood Angels had all but secured their victory- now they only needed to deliver the virus bomb to the Norn Queen. As they crested the hill, they let out a collective gasp- before them lay an endless field of spore mines. The Sisters of the Ebon Rose stepped forward. They knew this was their duty.
Each Space marine that was present that day now wears a seal that proudly commemorates the Sisters brave and noble sacrifice."
My sides.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
The Order or Our Martyred Minesweeper.
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Post by: Azreal13
And their heraldry...
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Post by: MrFlutterPie
Grot treatment is still better then no treatment 
Feels like we need a quote about how the dead sisters blood was then drunk from the space vampires giving the super special soldiers even more super and special abilities
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
H.B.M.C. wrote: They're acknowledging that the SoB's exist. Beggars can't be choosers.
This is more “not-trolling” from you, then. That is not trolling. Totally not. Automatically Appended Next Post: endlesswaltz123 wrote:I mean, are you actually trying to summon Melissa of all people to this thread by even starting the conversation? No one needs that in here...
I like Melissia.
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Post by: Azreal13
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're acknowledging that the SoB's exist. Beggars can't be choosers.
This is more “not-trolling” from you, then. That is not trolling. Totally not.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
endlesswaltz123 wrote:I mean, are you actually trying to summon Melissa of all people to this thread by even starting the conversation? No one needs that in here...
I like Melissia.
If you're not willing to employ/develop a sense of humour, I really don't think this is the thread for you.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
I am totally willing to find funny stuff funny. It just needs to be funny.
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Post by: Azreal13
If you could kindly ignore stuff you don't find funny, when it is very clear that it is humour, rather than getting po-faced about it, it would help the thread tick along much better, and really help with the image Sisters players have of being humourless.
Your current posting isn't really doing that.
Thanks!
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
As always Hybrid, everyone else gets it, so I have to believe this is you intentionally not getting it and acting innocent, so be very careful when it comes to accusations of trolling.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
I do not really care how you see Sister players. Automatically Appended Next Post: H.B.M.C. wrote:As always Hybrid, everyone else gets it, so I have to believe this is you intentionally not getting it and acting innocent, so be very careful when it comes to accusations of trolling.
This was not an accusation of trolling, I said you were not-trolling. See? It was a funny joke!
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Post by: Alpharius
How about this?
NO ONE 'accuse' anyone of trolling, OK?
Rule #1, yes?
Now, having said that, I'm surprised that Sisters are getting a mention 'officially' from GW in anything.
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Have they not got official mention in the 6th and 7th rulebook?
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Post by: Alpharius
I don't know, have they?
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Post by: Warhams-77
7th yes
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Maybe they did and no one cared noticed?
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Post by: Sinful Hero
They were in 6th I'm pretty sure- don't have the page number on me though. They've had several Black Library books out. Haven't they been in the Dark Heresy stuff too?
Wow I was ninja'ed hard.
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Post by: Warhams-77
They even mentioned Squats in the 6th Ed BRB... so... probably not worth much
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Post by: Medium of Death
I really want them to get a Word Bears vs Sisters of Battle campaign out now.
Nothing like a bit of Holy War.
Maybe throw in The Lost and the Damned.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Yeah, they show up a fair bit in the 40K RPG's, either as NPCs or in the case of Dark Heresy, a playable career.  Medium of Death wrote:I really want them to get a Word Bears vs Sisters of Battle campaign out now. Nothing like a bit of Holy War. Maybe throw in The Lost and the Damned.
Wouldn't that be great? A Sisters vs Word Bearer type affair, with a book, a boxed set, and a follow-up book, all culminating in a new Chaos Codex, a new SoB Codex, and (plastic) releases for both.
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Post by: adamsouza
H.B.M.C. wrote:Wouldn't that be great? A Sisters vs Word Bearer type affair, with a book, a boxed set, and a follow-up book, all culminating in a new Chaos Codex, a new SoB Codex, and (plastic) releases for both.
Yes, Yes it would, as long as it is after the Blood Angels codex
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Post by: Medium of Death
Such glorious dreams are bad for our long term health.
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Post by: adamsouza
To be honest that would be a genius marketing strategy.
Sell us a $75 Campaign Book, followed by a $125 Campaign Box, followed by a new Codex.
I'm suprised they didn't think of this earlier and apply it to all army releases.
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Post by: Anpu42
adamsouza wrote:To be honest that would be a genius marking strategy.
Sell us a $75 Campaign Book, followed by a $125 Campaign Box, followed by a new Codex.
I'm suprised they didn't think of this earlier and apply it to all army releases.
Well I would get all three that way if spread out.
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Post by: Kanluwen
adamsouza wrote:To be honest that would be a genius marketing strategy.
Sell us a $75 Campaign Book, followed by a $125 Campaign Box, followed by a new Codex.
I'm surprised they didn't think of this earlier and apply it to all army releases.
They already did for Space Wolves?
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Post by: adamsouza
Kanluwen wrote: adamsouza wrote:To be honest that would be a genius marketing strategy.
Sell us a $75 Campaign Book, followed by a $125 Campaign Box, followed by a new Codex.
I'm surprised they didn't think of this earlier and apply it to all army releases.
They already did for Space Wolves?
Yes.
We were just musing using that approach for other armies, and why they hadn't implemented it earlier in the codex release schedule.
It looks like they are giving Blood Angels the Campaign Box and Codex treatment, but we still have Necrons and Adepta Sororitas to go.
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Post by: Sinful Hero
Don't get people's hopes up about a return to Sanctuary 101...
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
adamsouza wrote: Veteran Sergeant wrote:Eh, it's happened to several model lines. Squats, Genestealer Cult. Chaos Cult for a while. Arbites to a lesser extent (weren't really an "army" per se).
Squats, Genestealer Cults, and Adeptus Arbiters haven't had legit army rules since 2nd Edition, and all their model ranges predate that.
Adepta Sororitas just have the priveledge of having the worst supported of all the current model lines and a digtal only codex.
How old does it have to get for it to count? Sisters haven't had new models since 3rd. And their 3rd Edition codex didn't even require any Sisters to play.
The precedent is there. The only difference is that GW has been nice enough to give them rules to keep using their models.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Actually, doing a Sanctuary 101 campaign book release would be pretty amazing.
Week 1 - Codex: Adepta Sororitas (Codex Release + Plastic Sobs (10) + Plastic Seraphim (5) + Clampack Sister Superior)
Week 2 - Sanctuary 101 (2-book release, 1 rules, 1 fluff), plastic Exorcist
Week 3 - Basicallica Whatevica (campaign box, 10 SoBs, 5 Seraphim, limited Sister Superior, limited Necron Lord, 12 Necron Warriors, 3 Scarab Swarms, 3 Canoptek Wraiths or whatever they're called now, scenario book)
Week 4 - Codex: Necrons (Codex Release + New Destroyer Kit + Clampack Necron Lord + Cryptek Kit)
It'll never happen, but it'd be fantastic.
Veteran Sergeant wrote:Sisters haven't had new models since 3rd. And their 3rd Edition codex didn't even require any Sisters to play.
That kinda says everything that needs to be said about the Sisters, doesn't it?
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Post by: pretre
Man this thread's just a bit off track...
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Post by: Veteran Sergeant
plastictrees wrote:Calling the models available to Genestealer Cults and Arbites a 'range' is a bit of a stretch as well. We're talking about handfuls of minis here. There really is no precedent for the removal of an army from 40k on the scale of the Sisters. Nostalgia and raving internet lunacy has really exaggerated the significance of the Squat removal.
How do you "exaggerate" the removal of an entire model line? Squats had something Sisters never did, plastic troops, lol. I'd like to hear what your rationale for the Squat removal being "exaggerated" and how it's "not on the scale of the Sisters" because it will be a good laugh. The Squats had more models than the Sisters do. Like more than twice as many, lol. Probably closer to three times as many.
30 here: http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2053squats-01.jpg
12 more here: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQA_uHR7V8BENHlYF_BXz0gZz-5mLQAs6L4RQrHv5ECZX92EIKI
3 here: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQE_enpGs2M_wGQxY0CiFFqN94oW49PofTgdcJ-OlwbQMaYaVrU
19 more here: http://www.solegends.com/citcat89/c894204squats.jpg
6 more here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2008/2/7/45b4e533941dcc948d02210ed9afccbc_518.jpg__thumb
27 more here: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n3m96cF2pRI/TaKpNVL0m_I/AAAAAAAABg0/DvvxGbGVKCM/s1600/iron%2Bclaw%2Bsquats%2Bflyer%2Bwarhammer%2B40K%2B%25284%2529.JPG
Plastic Squats! http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2060squatplastics-01.jpg
That's, for those without a calculator app, 97 unique models plus the plastics. And that's not even the entire Squats range, it's just the pictures I was able to find that didn't duplicate models. The full Sisters of Battle miniatures range is, by my count, 43 models, including their unique vehicles. I may be off by a couple. And that's not counting Epic Squats, something Sisters also never had.
I know you guys like to feel special, and oppression is part of your identity so like most minorities, you don't like having to compete for the feels. But the Squats being dropped was a big deal.
Oh, and here are the Genestealer Cult: http://solegends.com/citcat911/c2102genestealers.jpg 24 unique models there.
Another 6 here: http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2103genestealers.jpg
Oh, and they had plastic hybrids too. And plastic genestealers before the genestealers became part of the Tyranid army.
So, ya know, actually, there are only about a half dozen or so more Sisters models than there are Genestealer Cult models too. So I guess calling the Sisters of battle a "range" is a bit of a stretch. Really just a handful of minis.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Blame the Sisters. Everyone else does.
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Post by: th3maninblak
BACK ON THE TOPIC OF BLOOD ANGELS RUMORS: the current BA book disappeared from the GW site for a half hour or so sometime today. Not sure if its back up or not.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Still on the Oz site.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
th3maninblak wrote:BACK ON THE TOPIC OF BLOOD ANGELS RUMORS: the current BA book disappeared from the GW site for a half hour or so sometime today. Not sure if its back up or not.
It is back up on the US site. But that was the clear indicator Dark Eldar were coming, when their old codex disappeared.
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Post by: LutherMax
Still on the UK site...
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Post by: th3maninblak
Well, theres a new video up previewing end times book 3. Ahh the familiar taste of disappointment.
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Post by: diepotato47
I noticed in the Rules and Codexes section in the Christmas Gift Guide, they have listed the Necron Codex, but not the Blood Angels codex... Now why would they not be advertising the current Blood Angels codex in their Christmas lists I wonder....
Worth noting it's still available in the Blood Angels tab
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
H.B.M.C. wrote:Week 1 - Codex: Adepta Sororitas (Codex Release + Plastic Sobs (10) + Plastic Seraphim (5) + Clampack Sister Superior)
Week 2 - Sanctuary 101 (2-book release, 1 rules, 1 fluff), plastic Exorcist
Week 3 - Basicallica Whatevica (campaign box, 10 SoBs, 5 Seraphim, limited Sister Superior, limited Necron Lord, 12 Necron Warriors, 3 Scarab Swarms, 3 Canoptek Wraiths or whatever they're called now, scenario book)
I think you mean Canoness. A sister superior is just a squad leader, not an HQ.
That box would certainly reenact the Sanctuary 101 massacre pretty well, with the Canoness being way, way less powerful than the Necron Lord, the 10 SoB being less powerful than the 12 necrons warriors, and the 5 seraphim being less powerful than the 3 Canoptek Wraith, and the scarabs as extra.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Note I specifically tried to start a thread to talk about the new pack and the Sisters involvement in it but this was locked and I was told to clutter up this thread and others instead............
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/623443.page
Check the tyranid and blood angel rumor threads. In the meantime, someone lock this thread please?
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Post by: General Duf
Apologies if this has already been noted, but the Blood Angel codex doesn't appear to be for sale through the US GW Website: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Warhammer-40-000?Nao=0&Nu=product.repositoryId&N=102352+4294966114&qty=12&sorting=phl&view=table EDIT: The codex is still available if you go to the BA tabs, but I thought it was weird its not listed with the other above.
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Post by: adamsouza
from the End times book 3 thread
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:Copied from talkwargaming for completeness in thread.
After a few weeks of 40k releases we are back to the End Times, however it appears that we will not be receiving any new Warhammer Fantasy miniatures on the 29th November. We will however be getting the latest chapter in the campaign; Warhammer: Khaine. From the name of the book and the hints posted on GWs Daily Blog it is clear that this next installment will be covering the Elves. However we currently have little more than speculation.
In addition to the End Times book we also have our annual release of The Hobbit miniatures. With The Battle Of The Five Armies soon to hit cinemas it was expected that the LOTR franchise would be revisited.
The full set of releases due for the 29th November can be found below, courtesy of Meraklis over at Warseer. We will keep you posted should any images of the upcoming White Dwarf be leaked.
New Release items for this week are: -
· White Dwarf - Issue No. 44 - 36 pages of everything that is exciting and new in the Hobby this week.
· The Hobbit - Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm: Available While Stocks Last - Contains 2 Finecast miniatures of Thranduil mounted on horse and on foot in a clampack.
· The Hobbit - Legolas Greenleaf, Prince of Mirkwood: Available While Stocks Last - Contains 2 Finecast miniatures of Legolas mounted on horse and on foot in a clampack.
· The Hobbit - Tauriel, Mirkwood Exile: Available While Stocks Last - Contains 1 Finecast miniature of Tauriel on foot in a clampack.
· The Hobbit - Mirkwood Armoured Captain: Available While Stocks Last - Contains 1 Finecast miniatures of Tauriel on foot in a clampack.
· The Hobbit - Mirkwood Armoured Bowmen: Available While Stocks Last - Contains 3 Finecast miniatures in a Clampack.
· Warhammer: Khaine - Available While Stocks Last - The next installment of the End Times.
Black Library New Release items for this week are: -
· The End Times: The Curse of Khaine - 400 page hardback novel tie-in for Warhammer; The End Times, in English language only.
· Horus Heresy: Templar - 1 CD audio drama, 70 minute run time.
Update 1
More information regarding what information can be found within the Khaine Book.
The book contains rules for characters including Malekith, Tyrion, Imrik, some chap called the Eternity King and The Avatar of Khaine.
Apparently there are "amazing changes to how magic works in the End Times" and it looks like each lore gets a new spell, there's a preview in the magazine but I don't have time to type it out now.
They talk about the lists in the magazine: There is the Host of the Phoenix King which seems to be a combined Asur, Asrai, Druchii army under Malekith and Teclis and the Aestyrion, who are loyal to Tyrion.
There is a third list mentioned but no details given other than: "In Warhammer: Khaine there is, once and for all, an absolute winner in the war for the Phoenix Crown. The third army represents the Elves that survive."
No Blood Angels or campaign box there
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Post by: Kanluwen
Ugh. More Finecast blisters for "The Hobbit".
The Mirkwood Armoured Bowmen shoulda been plastic.
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Post by: LutherMax
Ah yes, The Hobbit, there will be a big push on that. And End Times is confirmed for this week.
I think we're looking at early next year for Blood Angels guys...
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Post by: Sinful Hero
Disappointing that Blood Angels are pushed back for more Hobbit stuff few people want.
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Post by: Kanluwen
LutherMax wrote:Ah yes, The Hobbit, there will be a big push on that. And End Times is confirmed for this week.
I think we're looking at early next year for Blood Angels guys...
Was there really any doubt?
December has been LOTR as long as the movies were happening.
January for BA was the most likely avenue.
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Post by: LutherMax
Kanluwen wrote: LutherMax wrote:Ah yes, The Hobbit, there will be a big push on that. And End Times is confirmed for this week.
I think we're looking at early next year for Blood Angels guys...
Was there really any doubt?
December has been LOTR as long as the movies were happening.
January for BA was the most likely avenue.
No doubt.
And there never was much hope. Just a fool's hope.[/gandalf]
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Post by: th3maninblak
LutherMax wrote: Kanluwen wrote: LutherMax wrote:Ah yes, The Hobbit, there will be a big push on that. And End Times is confirmed for this week.
I think we're looking at early next year for Blood Angels guys...
Was there really any doubt?
December has been LOTR as long as the movies were happening.
January for BA was the most likely avenue.
No doubt.
And there never was much hope. Just a fool's hope.[/gandalf]
Yeah even lords of war has gone quiet. Looks like they were wrong here. Oh well, it was fun hoping for a new codex while it lasted.
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Post by: Warhams-77
Felwether posted again on Warseer
Hi Folks,
Not sure if this is worth a thread of its own but the 'Next Week in White Dwarf' section in this week's (issue 43) says the following:
- Will the Shieldworlds Stand?
- War in the Depths of Phodia
Looks like we'll be seeing more to do with Shield of Baal but that teaser doesn't say 'release' to me. No idea what Phodia is.
EDIT: To clarify, issue 43 is due for release on 22/11/14.
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Post by: Ghaz
It's no different than the printed Codex Necrons which is listed there, but not with the rest of the Necrons.
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Post by: Crimson Devil
Medium of Death wrote:
I really want them to get a Word Bears vs Sisters of Battle campaign out now.
Nothing like a bit of Holy War.
Maybe throw in The Lost and the Damned.
Lol, now I have an image in my head of Sisters slaughtering Teddy Bears that only want to teach children to read.
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Post by: plastictrees
 Crimson Devil wrote: Medium of Death wrote:
I really want them to get a Word Bears vs Sisters of Battle campaign out now.
Nothing like a bit of Holy War.
Maybe throw in The Lost and the Damned.
Lol, now I have an image in my head of Sisters slaughtering Teddy Bears that only want to teach children to read.
Yes. This is everything that is important.
"You can't spell Hug without 'u'...aiiieeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE!!"
"The xenos burn especially well this morning Sister Steverella."
"Verily. Their climactic song and dance number was trite and poorly paced, they shall know only death!"
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Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl
Crimson Devil wrote:Lol, now I have an image in my head of Sisters slaughtering Teddy Bears that only want to teach children to read.
Reading is heresy. Here, just memorize those Holy Words, and stop thinking about it. Because thinking is heresy.
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Post by: Bronzefists42
This is actually a game mechanic in OW.
People from Shrine Worlds can hear and read High Gothic as long as it isn't in a context where they have to THINK about what is being said to properly understand it.
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Post by: TheKbob
End of Times + Hobbit releases.... ironic? Those will probably be the last major ones and then *poof* goes that line.
Still wonder what the new "thing" BA will get.
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
Think its time for a lock with the november release schedule. Whatre the odds we get a december release?
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Post by: plastictrees
This is the first December that's wholly within GWs new 'Release ALL the codeci!' release policy, so it's really hard to say.
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Post by: Neronoxx
The thread created had no actual content. Creating a thread in news and rumors to discuss something nobody knows anything about only serves to aggravate those who do not visit this forum on a regular basis. It's nothing personal if that was the way you saw it.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Neronoxx wrote:
The thread created had no actual content. Creating a thread in news and rumors to discuss something nobody knows anything about only serves to aggravate those who do not visit this forum on a regular basis. It's nothing personal if that was the way you saw it.
You mean like this entire thread and half the other ones on this board which are just people guessing and throwing ideas.- no difference really.
I asked a specific question and attempted to reduce the clutter on this and other threads - but apparently that was not a good idea - hence this mess of a thread.
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Post by: Sidstyler
It's a month. You literally can't wait another damn month?
No, you're right, having to wait until January instead of getting it in December, after having waited four years already, is just too much to ask. Better go put that army on eBay now while there's still a chance someone might be interested in it.
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Post by: DaddyWarcrimes
Sidstyler wrote:
It's a month. You literally can't wait another damn month?
No, you're right, having to wait until January instead of getting it in December, after having waited four years already, is just too much to ask. Better go put that army on eBay now while there's still a chance someone might be interested in it.
Like anyone wants to buy a Blood Angel army right now...
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Post by: Thatguyhsagun
DaddyWarcrimes wrote: Sidstyler wrote:
It's a month. You literally can't wait another damn month?
No, you're right, having to wait until January instead of getting it in December, after having waited four years already, is just too much to ask. Better go put that army on eBay now while there's still a chance someone might be interested in it.
Like anyone wants to buy a Blood Angel army right now...
Ive been with them for almost 10 years, ill take it
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Post by: LutherMax
Removed by insaniak. Please don't make posts consisting just of image macros.
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Post by: taurising
I will totally buy a blood angles army right now.
Also I agree with the lemur.....
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Post by: Kelly502
I am a coiled spring ready to come undone... I can barely retain calm...
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Post by: Azreal13
Kelly502 wrote:I am a coiled spring ready to come undone... I can barely retain calm...
You can barely construct a coherent metaphor, that's for sure!
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Post by: Fayric
Kelly502 wrote:I am a coiled spring ready to come undone... I can barely retain calm...
One could almost say you have a Red Thirst consuming your patience, eh?
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Post by: Anpu42
January works for me, more X-Mass money to save up.
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Post by: valkyriePROfail
We have been waiting for years, can wait till January. GW just make a new codex worth our unlimited patience.
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Post by: Kelly502
Maybe, just maybe it will be Blood Angels for Christmas! A Christmas of slaughter and berserker fury! Embrace the thirst brothers!
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Maybe, just maybe it will be Blood Angels for Christmas! A Christmas of slaughter and berserker fury! Embrace the thirst brothers!
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Post by: DaddyWarcrimes
valkyriePROfail wrote:We have been waiting for years, can wait till January. GW just make a new codex worth our unlimited patience.
Bet against it. I figure we'll see a slightly nerfed Mephiston, a slightly buffed Dante as a Lord of War, some price drops for the infantry, a brutal nerf to Corbulo, slotless Sanguinary Priests, no more DT Land Raiders, and a nerf to Blood Talons. On the whole, the army will be worse, but cheaper. The price drop will also make Death Company amazing.
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Post by: LutherMax
LutherMax wrote:Removed by insaniak. Please don't make posts consisting just of image macros.
My apologies, I felt it was necessary
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Post by: Fireraven
Dante dies to the nids, Mephiston becomes the new. chaptermaster and Low. Mephiston gets a slight points increase 75-80 and gets an invuln save. Also a new power will be the Rage of Sagittarius will be a large blast nova str 10 ap 1 and will be 1 time use with all the blood angels then auto fail red thirst for the rest of the game. We then February get a new hardback Sisters of Battle codex. Then they get some new stuff in plastic and then the another campaign with the nids and they get their new codex. Major Nerfs for them on shooting and the lord. Then they hit the Tau and Eldar with a nerf bat so hard the tears will be happening till 8th edition. But they will give us all this new stuff and juice right before then to soften the blow.
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Post by: Frankenberry
Fireraven wrote:Dante dies to the nids, Mephiston becomes the new.chaptermaster and Low.
I'll give this a day before it shows up on several other 'news' sites as confirmed from GW.
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Post by: Olgerth Istaarn
Every time I see this thread float up to the top and every time I come here for another heartbreak.
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Post by: pantheralegionnaire
valkyriePROfail wrote:We have been waiting for years, can wait till January. GW just make a new codex worth our unlimited patience.
Yes, please. I just want it to be something I can get excited about.
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Post by: Kavish
 Olgerth Istaarn wrote:Every time I see this thread float up to the top and every time I come here for another heartbreak.
My sentiments exactly.
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Post by: casvalremdeikun
Well, the most recent leaks for WD indicate we are headed back to 40K coverage next issue. Take that for what you will.
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Post by: warboss
taurising wrote:I will totally buy a blood angles army right now.
Also I agree with the lemur.....
Ah, yes, the infamous geometric warriors of the Emperor! Beware of knock off chinese hexagon astartes though.
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 Frankenberry wrote:Fireraven wrote:Dante dies to the nids, Mephiston becomes the new.chaptermaster and Low.
I'll give this a day before it shows up on several other 'news' sites as confirmed from GW.
Don't be ridiculous. Logan beat up Santa to get his sleigh. The only logical followup to that is we Blood Angel players finally get the official model to this...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QAqwRWrniUQ/S3N9yhbKlSI/AAAAAAAACNE/euTcsAFV36Y/s1600-h/If+The+Rumours+Were+True.jpg
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Post by: sockwithaticket
You can do it yourself easily enough:
Note, that's NOT mine, just found it on the 'net.
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Post by: BrokenRecord
Haha, here's the bottom of one of my Land Raiders!
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Post by: PastelAvenger
That's brilliant!
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Post by: monkeypuzzle
I know it is an overreaction but I get really annoyed by people who fit guns upside down to vehicles. Those hurricane bolsters really stand out to me. Upside down shrunken cannons for eldar are my biggest bugbear though. They are far too common as well, I just don't understand why.
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Post by: Anpu42
 monkeypuzzle wrote:I know it is an overreaction but I get really annoyed by people who fit guns upside down to vehicles. Those hurricane bolsters really stand out to me. Upside down shrunken cannons for eldar are my biggest bugbear though. They are far too common as well, I just don't understand why.
They are that so they can be fired while it does Barrel-Rolls
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Post by: MrFlutterPie
Need to add "love" Dante
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Post by: Frankenberry
You, sir, win all the things. Well done.
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Post by: undertak1983
I really hope that Death Company isn't removed from the Blood Angel codex and put into their own dataslate. Keep Death Company with the Blood Angels!
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Post by: JuniorRS13
Over on Nafta he's got the contents of the campaign box. "Deathstorm" it's being called.
Captain Karlean
5 termies
5 DC
DC Dread
Tyranids have a new HQ brood lord, 8 genestealers, 3 warriors and a Carnifex
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Post by: axisofentropy
Box set "Deathstorm" contents: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/11/shield-of-baal-deathstorm-box-set-and.html
This set comes from more than one source.
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 *****
two releases next week for 40k and the rest is hobbit and some bases.
Shield of Baal box set $125 25 miniatures, campaign supplement, and rules
Shield of Baal: Deasthstorm $24 hardback 125pgs
Contents of the box set
Small Rulebook with Blood Angels on Front
Campaign Supplement -40pages
3 missions, rules and dataslates for each model, two formations- Strike Force Deathstorm and Phodian Annihilation Swarm
Blood Angels Strike Force- 12 models
Captain Karlean, 5 terminators, 5 deasth company, and a death company dreadnought
Phodian Annihilation Swarm- 13 models
Spawn of Cryptus, 8 genestrealers, 3 warriors, and a carnifex
The Spawn of Cryptus is a very large Broodlord towering over the height of warriors. Both the Spawn of Cryptus and Captian Karlean are new models.
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Post by: pretre
Blood Angels Rumors / Tyranid Rumors - Nov 2014
via anonymous sources on Faeit 212 *****
two releases next week for 40k and the rest is hobbit and some bases.
Shield of Baal box set $125 25 miniatures, campaign supplement, and rules
Shield of Baal: Deasthstorm $24 hardback 125pgs
Contents of the box set
Small Rulebook with Blood Angels on Front
Campaign Supplement -40pages
3 missions, rules and dataslates for each model, two formations- Strike Force Deathstorm and Phodian Annihilation Swarm
Blood Angels Strike Force- 12 models
Captain Karlean, 5 terminators, 5 deasth company, and a death company dreadnought
Phodian Annihilation Swarm- 13 models
Spawn of Cryptus, 8 genestrealers, 3 warriors, and a carnifex
The Spawn of Cryptus is a very large Broodlord towering over the height of warriors. Both the Spawn of Cryptus and Captian Karlean are new models.
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Post by: sockwithaticket
undertak1983 wrote:I really hope that Death Company isn't removed from the Blood Angel codex and put into their own dataslate. Keep Death Company with the Blood Angels!
No danger of this whatsoever. They would just cop too much flak for it. Is there any precedent for a signature unit being withdrawn from a 7th ed.codex to come back in dataslate form? I can;t think of any.
On the other hand, the ability to field a Death Company army may well be excluded from the codex and be made available elsewhere for extra money, whether that's in a supplement or data slate remains to be seen.
On the boxed set rumours, I am a little surprised by those contents, just don't see why they'd give us Terminators. As ever with Natfka I'll stick with believe it when I see it.
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Post by: axisofentropy
Karlean is captain of the 1st company (veterans and terminators) http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Karlaen
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Post by: Jinx Magiga
Yup,that's the one everyone is talking about
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Post by: warboss
Can't wait to see a pic of the captain as he'll hopefully be in terminator armor. They did a good job with Krom Dragongaze so hopefully that will continue.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Wow, that's a far higher savings per side than the Storm Claw box set. Each side is getting the character for "free" and still getting a discount on the actual units. So basically it's over 50% off the contents of the box even before discounts. Interesting...
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Post by: pretre
 Hulksmash wrote:Wow, that's a far higher savings per side than the Storm Claw box set. Each side is getting the character for "free" and still getting a discount on the actual units. So basically it's over 50% off the contents of the box even before discounts. Interesting...
Careful. It's Natfka and we already saw the WD release list (unless he means next next week...)
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Post by: Kanluwen
I have a hard time believing that since the Broodlord is on the cover of the Tyranid painting book--and they have not used "limited edition" products for those things. They had the opportunity to do so with Krom Dragongaze on Space Wolves and instead went for Logan Grimnar.
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Post by: Hulksmash
 pretre wrote: Hulksmash wrote:Wow, that's a far higher savings per side than the Storm Claw box set. Each side is getting the character for "free" and still getting a discount on the actual units. So basically it's over 50% off the contents of the box even before discounts. Interesting...
Careful. It's Natfka and we already saw the WD release list (unless he means next next week...)
I assume he would mean the week that isn't released yet But yeah. Salt is always applied. But it's not unreasonable. Not that I plan on picking one up anyway but it'd be a good booster product.
Meh, no concern of mine. I got my Tyranid Detachment and some cool new formations. I'm happy
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