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I'll join, sign me up as the Night Lords CSM.

If there are 3 IG players, do they all control the same IG regiment? Or do they each have an IG regiment of their own?

@ EF

You control one regiment to yourself. From what I understand you will eventually have to betray the other IG players to win should the IG players be the last standing.

Interesting... I don't have online access anymore so I can't play right now:(

OK, this is an interesting game.

I like the Armies X Locations concept - it's very clear.

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Question for Manchu:

Am I correct that Eldar play every turn the same:

(1) Move (and Reinforce) with Attack?

Pointless:

(2) Reinforce (because it's free with Move)

(3) Attack (because it's free with Move)

So, wait...who's running this thing?

Manchu. I'm just giving him my take on his proposal.

I don't know that I like John's idea. You lose a whole lot of complexity, but the races feel really similiar. The idea of Command restricts what makes the race unique, when it should just be an inherent attribute. You need more complexity to creat diversity.

I agree with DarkHound here. It's better to have a unique feel to playing your chosen race even if that means it's more complex.

Guys, I think I proposed a good game, a different, streamlined game, but I withdraw my comments.

There's certainly nothing wrong with creating a variation of this game. I'd like to see how it works generally as written but am totally open to help with the glaring errors or unclear parts. So, John, I would like to see your suggestions if you're game. Regarding Eldar: they and Chaos do have the highest incentive to keep moving, as I wanted them to both work as "raider" factions to capture their fluff identity. (I have been wanting to post the envisioned tactica for the factions but haven't had time yet.) But there are instances where options 2 and 3 on your list may be handy. For erexample' Eldar are generally too fragile to stick it out in one theater to keep hitting the same enemy BUT they could safely do this in an alliance. In such a case, having to move all the time would be pointless. Similalarly, an Eldar player arriving in a haven theater full of friendly factions would not want to attack. Do people think the Eldar and/or CSM are overpowered?

So how many players are we waiting for? 20?

I think we can begin at Friday 12:01AM EST. Everyone who hasn't picked a faction should do so. You may change your faction until I post the starting positions tonight. I will sit out the first game in case I need to make impartial calls on rules. Plus, I am thinking of changing Chaos and Eldar somewhat. Was thinking Eldar could be Start5 Max10, no other changes. Was thinking of changing Chaos to "may reinforce on a move followed by an attack or on a move with no attacks." Comments?

Thats our setup?

- Darkhound = CSM / Red Corsairs
- Shaman = CSM / World Eaters
- Brother Stynier = CSM / Night Lords

- Erasoketa = SM / Black Templars


- Morgrim = Eldar / Biel Tan
- Focusedfire = Eldar / Saim Hann
- Inquisitor Syphonious = Eldar / Ulthwe


- Emperors Faithful = IG / Vostroya
- Admiral Bell = IG / Cadia


- Vikingscott = Nids / kraken


- Albatross = Orks / Blood axes

Without Manchu, we have 12 players.

I'll go SM / RavenGuard this time.

Manchu wrote:There's certainly nothing wrong with creating a variation of this game. I'd like to see how it works generally as written but am totally open to help with the glaring errors or unclear parts. So, John, I would like to see your suggestions if you're game.

Regarding Eldar: they and Chaos do have the highest incentive to keep moving, as I wanted them to both work as "raider" factions to capture their fluff identity. Do people think the Eldar and/or CSM are overpowered?

I think we can begin at Friday 12:01AM EST. Everyone who hasn't picked a faction should do so. You may change your faction until I post the starting positions tonight.

I will sit out the first game in case I need to make impartial calls on rules. Plus, I am thinking of changing Chaos and Eldar somewhat.

Was thinking Eldar could be Start5 Max10, no other changes. Was thinking of changing Chaos to "may reinforce on a move followed by an attack or on a move with no attacks." Comments?

Manchu: I suggested a streamlined alternate of this game, not being aware of how much this game had "solidified" (I made the mistake of thinking this was more in the design phase, rather than going in to a test game). I'll post my version over the weekend, after this game is underway.

I think Eldar are perhaps a bit boring, as they appear to only have one tactic. I don't think they'll be overpowered.

Sign me up for Eldar / Zandros - I'll give them a go.

Leave the Eldar stats and Chaos rules unchanged for now, especially as people have signed up based on the original stats and rules. There are enough heavy hitters that an Eldar 5 start could be eliminated in the first turn or two, depending on the start locations. If Eldar are "too tough at 10/10", then try 8/8 for the next game. Similarly, if Chaos rules aren't right, you can tweak them for the new rule next game.

Is the actual game going to continue in this thread or in a new one?
If its in a new one could some one PM with a link please so i don't miss it.

Once I open the game thread I will post a link in this thread as well as PM everyone who has signed up. I was also think of allowing two turns per day: one during the 12:01AM - 6:00PM EST half and another in the 6:01PM - 12:00AM EST period. On the one hand, I don't want people having to wait forever for another turn. On the other hand, I want them to have enough time to coordinate and manage alliances. Comments? John, I will take you advice regarding leaving Eldar and CSM as-are.

@Manchu: Open a poll for 1 per day or 2 per day. I'm OK either way, with a mild preference for 1 per day, as you originally proposed.

@Manchu:
Youre aware how international this has become? Different timezones may get into the way of fast play.



2 turns may work.
I'll try to be there twice a day.

1hadhq wrote:
@Manchu:
Youre aware how international this has become? Different timezones may get into the way of fast play.

Spoiler:

why do you run with a norwegian flag now?

I only saw this on one of his posts. It's not on his latest.

Alright leaving it at 1/day for the opening game. When I post from my phone, Dakka makes me Norwegian.

Manchu wrote:Alright leaving it at 1/day for the opening game. When I post from my phone, Dakka makes me Norwegian.

Maybe you should buy your personal technology american or chinese, like the rest of us.

I'm in, though I've never participated in regular Survivor. Should be an interesting experience.

Can I run as Orks- Freebooterz?

Though I'm not sure if I'd be able to update often, so I guess that means I'm a likely candidate for the weakest link!

Thats our setup?

- Darkhound = CSM / Red Corsairs
- Shaman = CSM / World Eaters
- Brother Stynier = CSM / Night Lords

- Erasoketa = SM / Black Templars
- 1hadhq = SM / Raven Guard

- Morgrim = Eldar / Biel Tan
- Focusedfire = Eldar / Saim Hann
- Inquisitor Syphonious = Eldar / Ulthwe
- JohnHwangDD = Eldar / Zandros

- Emperors Faithful = IG / Vostroya
- Admiral Bell = IG / Cadia


- Vikingscott = Nids / Kraken


- Albatross = Orks / Blood axes
- Nightwatch = Orks / Freebooterz

@John : Zandros? must be really deep hidden in the webway....

PS: IIRC, america already sold off tons of tech to china, so sooner or later you all have to run the red flag....

Maybe another nid-player? Would be a nice 15th player.

@Manchu- How about one turn/per player for every twelve hour period after the start of the game?

That way the individual knows to use the time stamp from the opening post.

If this would be to unclear, further clarification could be possible by having a time keeper can call the next turn on the 12 hour mark.

Just an idea.

@focusedfire: Regardless of how it's done, would you like more turns/day? I lean toward two myself but that is due to my worry of the game being too long.

One seems plenty fine, I am zealously participating in the mafia game right now...

Zandros is the home of the "wierdly terrifying" Slicing Orbs Aspect, from the 2E Eldar Codex.

Oh, yeah, are colors *really* needed in the action orders?

I think colors are good for making it clear what happened on your turn. But I suppose the narrative could suffice.

Lot of Eldar players. We'll get that sorted soon enough.

I'm in, I'll be tossing my choppa in with Allby and Nightwatch.

Orkz/Goffs