Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Lockark wrote:
Why is everyone tonight dead set on trolling the SOB players?

They're bored, clearly.

 Peregrine wrote:
Based on whether or not they have a distinct gameplay niche. SoB are just another MEQ shooting army....You could easily move them into C:SM without losing any of their fluff or gameplay.

I ask with genuine confusion, you are saying that since most of the SoBs have 3+ Armour and BS4 that they should be rolled into Codex: Space Marines?

They seem to have a fair bit more in common with the IG (Strength, Toughness, WS for Crunch, non Post-Human and closer ties to 'human' bodies of Authority for fluff) but I wouldn't really think to put them in with them.

I don't play SoB but I'd look forward to them getting an update. They maybe a MEQ army but there the one that is most distinct from the many space marine flavors.

That said, I hope GW does Ad Mech because if FW has shown us anything it's how unique and interesting the play style of that sort of army can be. It's just a matter of if GW does the Skitarri concept justice.

 Vain wrote:
I ask with genuine confusion, you are saying that since most of the SoBs have 3+ Armour and BS4 that they should be rolled into Codex: Space Marines?

No, it's more than than just BS 4 and power armor. SoB have the same bolters, the same melta guns (the default special weapon for MEQ armies), the same Rhinos, etc. In gameplay terms they're almost identical to a melta + transport spam army created from any other MEQ codex, just with a reduction in mostly-irrelevant stats (WS, S, T) in exchange for a slightly cheaper point cost per model.

BOLS/FTN is now claiming to have artwork from the Admech codex:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/01/40k-breaking-adeptus-mechanicus-weve.html

They just look like cropped pictures that could have been from any artwork to me. Does anyone recognize them?

 Redemption wrote:
BOLS/FTN is now claiming to have artwork from the Admech codex:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/01/40k-breaking-adeptus-mechanicus-weve.html

They just look like cropped pictures that could have been from any artwork to me. Does anyone recognize them?

Stay on topic, this is the SoB... no, wait a...

Whilst the artwork is nice enough , from what we can see anyway, it does strike one as it being unlikely that this would be from a codex, not least as the artwork is black and white, and GW have made a big point about the current gen. of codices being hardback and full colour.

Hmm... they're not from any FFG book I've seen, so no clue what they are.

Those images could be ANYTHING, there's not even a particular 40k aesthetic to them. I'm not saying it isn't AdMech but there isn't anything that says it is either.

Edit: kinda convenient that all the big clues that point to Skitari that the author describes, like the AdMech symbols and the red cloth, aren't visible in the pictures they've posted.

 Peregrine wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How can any one of us justify what armies "deserve" or "should" get Codices over another?

Based on whether or not they have a distinct gameplay niche. SoB are just another MEQ shooting army, especially now that the GK precedent pretty strongly suggests that we're never going to see any of the inquisition elements in the SoB codex again. You could easily move them into C:SM without losing any of their fluff or gameplay.

(And yes, this standard results in other armies losing their codex.)

Sorry my bad, forgot how laughably insane some of your statements can be.

How does every 40k N&R thread turn into a SoB debate...? This thread has literally nothing to do with Sisters.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... they're not from any FFG book I've seen, so no clue what they are.

Art style doesn't match any of the Codex artists either.

Looks more like something off of DeviantArt, to be honest.

The style reminds me a little of the artwork in some of the recent special edition books from Black Library.

I really hope this is not true. GW will butcher the concept of Skitarii (no one mentioned that they are the infantry in the Titan Legions yet?) and the models will not be good enough (cartoonish, not enough details, etc...)

I say let FW do them.

Vintersorg wrote:
(no one mentioned that they are the infantry in the Titan Legions yet?)

Skitarii is the Mechanicus's official term for all military forces under its command, not just Titan Legions (though they may possess their own Skitarii forces).

 MrFlutterPie wrote:
For those who are less excited for yet another Imperial release don't forget that the Harlequins are rumoured to be coming out Q1 2015. If it pans out should be super sweet

That would be awesome, I only have 30 of them. I'm not gwetting my hopes up

 Redemption wrote:

Vintersorg wrote:
(no one mentioned that they are the infantry in the Titan Legions yet?)

Skitarii is the Mechanicus's official term for all military forces under its command, not just Titan Legions (though they may possess their own Skitarii forces).

Excerpted from the Skitarri Field Manual 001 - Universal Issue (translated from the original binary):

Standing Order #1: When providing infantry support for Titans, watch out for their feet.

From the Fabricator-General:
Guys, I don't fething believe we have to keep reminding you about this! The Princeps has trouble seeing you from way up there and even more trouble caring whether you live or die. I don't care either except that your equipment is sacred, expensive, and fething impossible to salvage after it's been pressed into sheet metal. The Titan's a house-sized mass of holiness with a lot of motherfething momentum, so don't expect IT to step around YOU, YOU get out of ITS way. Aight?

Hmm, well, I remember when the Skitarii were just Imperial Guard troops assigned to the Titan Legions. Back when the IG didn't have fancy-schmancy things like Leman Russ tanks and Chimeras and basically died in greater numbers due to lack of decent strategies. Yes, I hearken back to the days of giving the IG Land Raiders and Rhinos and having jetbike troops. Of course this is back when a guardsman could carry a lascannon on his shoulder without having to set it down or have another guy carrying his power packs for him...

And once upon a time the Ultramarines were a Chapter created to replace the original Ultramarines who turned to Chaos. And their Chief Librarian was a half-Eldar.

To put it another way: Old gak is old. Let go of it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And once upon a time the Ultramarines were a Chapter created to replace the original Ultramarines who turned to Chaos. And their Chief Librarian was a half-Eldar.

To put it another way: Old gak is old. Let go of it.

NEVER! Your Imperial cover ups can never hide the truth, I will make sure everyone knows about the real Ultrama-GHHHHHHHK!!!!!!!

+++Move along citizen, nothing to see here+++

Oh I m so excited now if this rumour is false I will be sad cause 40k mech might drag me back from 30k.

 Lockark wrote:
Why is everyone tonight dead set on trolling the SOB players?

Because it's entirely too easy... As if anyone has even paid attention to SoB since 1995.

I am extremely skeptical about this happening. As much as I would love for this to happen, I know both of these sources can be pretty unreliable....I'll wait for something a bit more concrete..

The artwork isn't convincing in of itself. The designs certainly look like something that could translate to miniatures, but it's not obviously GW's work.

It's very hard to know what to make of individual rules rumors without a lot of context. But the rumor seems to be suggesting S6 haywire spam, and that seems questionable. GW seems to have a fairly firm leash on haywire these days. But again...context.

I feel like the Mechanicus, being one of the most variable armies in the 40k mythos, would not be done justice under Games Workshop's new faction scheme. Because currently the only two new factions that Games Workshop has granted codicies to are the Inquisition, which received NO new models, units, or even a physical book, and Militarum Tempestus, which received a thin book and 2 new releases. Even though the case could be made that the stormtroopers never really had much else anyways, from a business standpoint Games Workshop has given every signal that they are not going to just throw out an entirely new army.

That said... of course I want it...

I hope this one is true, I'd be down for getting a box, even though in my heart I know it will be $60 for 3.

Besides once the Adeptus Mech is checked off, all that remains is SoB, Arbites and Squats!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Arbites and Squats!

NEVER

And Sensei!

Come on GW!

 namiel wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Arbites and Squats!

NEVER

25 years in a Iso-Cube citizen!

 Quarterdime wrote:
I feel like the Mechanicus, being one of the most variable armies in the 40k mythos, would not be done justice under Games Workshop's new faction scheme. Because currently the only two new factions that Games Workshop has granted codicies to are the Inquisition, which received NO new models, units, or even a physical book, and Militarum Tempestus, which received a thin book and 2 new releases. Even though the case could be made that the stormtroopers never really had much else anyways, from a business standpoint Games Workshop has given every signal that they are not going to just throw out an entirely new army.

That said... of course I want it...

You could argue that they have never been better set up to introduce a new army in a 'safe' manner.
Couple of blisters and a box, with a Tempestus type codex, add to that in six months when they sell like hot cakes with a Mechanicum: Mars Attacks! campaign supplement that introduces more units.
They are establishing the framework for this sort of release, it remains to be seen if they plan to use it.