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Don Qui Hotep wrote:I can barely get mine on-center. XD

I find the trick is making a centred guide impression before applying the drill.

theCrowe wrote:But lasguns don't have an open ended barrel, at least I always imagined they had more of a lens thing going on at the end.

I hope you painted all of those lens separate to the encasing!

I think I generally give lasguns a miss most of the time too, citing the lens macguffin...projectile weapons need it. Having said that I can see a couple that look like they might have been drilled next to me....

Red looks good.

The gang is looking good in that red. You are right about Espern, too. He is turning out VERY well.

 Arakasi wrote:

Don Qui Hotep wrote:I can barely get mine on-center. XD

I find the trick is making a centred guide impression before applying the drill.

Oh duh, I don't know why I didn't think of that. That will make it much easier.

The red cloth does look fantastic, especially on the Navigator.

Espern is looking stylish! I tried painting mine in red and blue too, it's a nice color combo for him i think.

theCrowe wrote:

 Captain Brown wrote:
gobert,

Drilling barrels in important.

Says the man who never drilled his 300+ Lasguns.

Cheers,

CB

But lasguns don't have an open ended barrel, at least I always imagined they had more of a lens thing going on at the end. I never drilled a lasgun in my life either. Done a few bolters though. I'll never look at my old termie assault cannon the same again now. I'll have to drill it or I'll not be able to look that little guy in the eye.

I can see the argument for lasguns, but I drilled mine on the Traitor Guard. With 300+ I think you’d go insane drilling that many in a sitting!

Arakasi wrote:

Don Qui Hotep wrote:I can barely get mine on-center. XD

I find the trick is making a centred guide impression before applying the drill.

theCrowe wrote:But lasguns don't have an open ended barrel, at least I always imagined they had more of a lens thing going on at the end.

I hope you painted all of those lens separate to the encasing!

I think drawing lenses on 300+ lasguns would be even more insane!

monkeytroll wrote:I think I generally give lasguns a miss most of the time too, citing the lens macguffin...projectile weapons need it. Having said that I can see a couple that look like they might have been drilled next to me....

Red looks good.

Thanks monkeytroll, mcmatilla gets the credit for the recipe though!

youwashock wrote:The gang is looking good in that red. You are right about Espern, too. He is turning out VERY well.

Thanks youwashock,I’ve just gotta keep it up when I switch to my least favourite colour to paint; gold!

Don Qui Hotep wrote:

 Arakasi wrote:

Don Qui Hotep wrote:I can barely get mine on-center. XD

I find the trick is making a centred guide impression before applying the drill.

Oh duh, I don't know why I didn't think of that. That will make it much easier.

Yep, always start off lightly, check the centre and go from there. I wonder if it’d be possible to make a green stuff jig for drilling common weapons?

amazingturtles wrote:Espern is looking stylish! I tried painting mine in red and blue too, it's a nice color combo for him i think.

Thanks AT, I’ll have to look for yours to figure out the rest of the scheme

 gobert wrote:
Yep, always start off lightly, check the centre and go from there. I wonder if it’d be possible to make a green stuff jig for drilling common weapons?

Not sure about green stuff, but might be a good project for someone with access to a 3d printer...

 Arakasi wrote:

 gobert wrote:
Yep, always start off lightly, check the centre and go from there. I wonder if it’d be possible to make a green stuff jig for drilling common weapons?

Not sure about green stuff, but might be a good project for someone with access to a 3d printer...

Surely with a 3D printer one would just chop the barrels off and print a replacement with holes and all!? I need a 3D Printer, but the I’d probably need a PC too and that gets expensive quick!

I’ve been working most evenings recently, but have spent the odd 5-10mins doing more press moulding. So far I’ve got 2 good fist shoulder pad icons on my terminators. Tomorrow I’ll see if my High Elf shields came out ok. I trimmed the GS roughly to the right size for those and have longer alignment studs so hopefully they’ll be decently lined up. More pics next time hopefully!

But then you would need a jig to centre the replacement barrels . I guess you could do whichever was more appropriate per gun...

Looking forward to more mould pictures.

a jig for appliqué barrel ends, I like it! I might just make a bolter drilling jig next I have some left over GS. I’ll let you guys know how it goes!

We’ll work didn’t go too well this evening as my laptop decided to reboot to do some updates. So I filled the downtime with some hobbying! I inspected and tidied up my replacement shields and prepped another batch. There are some deformities, but they’ll hardly be noticeable once painted and all ranked up. They’ll end up in the middle of the unit anyway;

I’ve got a few more being readied for other units that are missing shields too, namely some undead and gobbos.

Next is set about sorting out some shoulder pad icons for my terminators. I cleaned one up and glued it on, then set about pressing the next.

This marine had his top carapace replacement terminator honours cross stuck on the other day too. The next one came out even better and will go on the Captain. Sadly I forgot pics of that and the cleaner up icon, which didn’t come out as well as the first one. The third one is in progress, so fingers crossed!

Then I didn’t feel like painting so started doing some minor kit bashing and prepping a future project. The kit bash was just putting different arms from the boyz box on the 2nd Edition boxset Orks. The scale creep is there, but it doesn’t look too bad. I swapped around the weapons on another. Still not wanting to be sensible and go to bed I drilled all of their barrels, including the original Ghaz. I’ve left the painted ones as standard load out, but there are a couple of unpainted boyz that will get box fresh arms too. One might get a marine shoulder pad as a trophy too

As you can see I made quite a mess! I’ll tidy up and hopefully get back to the BSF Explorers at the weekend.

Thanks for looking!

More elves are always great! Their whole aesthetic is just so powerfully nostalgic. You've done a great job with the GS moulds too. Love the beginning of the new BFS stuff - the consistent colour palette worked well with your renegades so glad to see the start of that here. The red robes come out really well!

Excited for more old school terms too!

Good use of the downtime, but not being able to work because of updates is always a pain.
The shields came out fine, it really shouldn't matter once they are painted. Worst case, it's battle damage

gobert,

You are far more dedicated to shield detail than I was...I just used the plan faced ones and hid them in the middle ranks.

Cheers,

CB

Shields look good!

Those shields should work just fine. Shoulder, too. Success!

Nice work on the sheilds!

The boyz deserve some trophies!

Nice work! The shields are looking great. I bet when they are in a unit no one will notice the difference.

Looking forward to seeing your franken-orks. Kitbashing orks is just how its meant to be.

tzurk wrote:More elves are always great! Their whole aesthetic is just so powerfully nostalgic. You've done a great job with the GS moulds too. Love the beginning of the new BFS stuff - the consistent colour palette worked well with your renegades so glad to see the start of that here. The red robes come out really well!

Excited for more old school terms too!

Cheers Tzurk, the Elves hit me right in the nostalgia too! I’m half tempted to tweak the other Explorers to use similar colours too. Not sure I like the others enough to do so though!

Viterbi wrote:Good use of the downtime, but not being able to work because of updates is always a pain.
The shields came out fine, it really shouldn't matter once they are painted. Worst case, it's battle damage

It think they’ll be decent and few enough to hide in the middle ranks , but I suppose if could give their basss the same treatment as the chaos chaos so I can say their shields melted ?

Captain Brown wrote:gobert,

You are far more dedicated to shield detail than I was...I just used the plan faced ones and hid them in the middle ranks.

Cheers,

CB

Just forced to experiment as I don’t even have any plain shields for a few Spearmen. I really should count up how many I need up to six new ones now.

MegaDave wrote:Shields look good!

Thanks MegaDave

youwashock wrote:Those shields should work just fine. Shoulder, too. Success!

Yep, I’m happy with the shields. Not convinced about the shoulder icon yet

amazingturtles wrote:Nice work on the sheilds!

The boyz deserve some trophies!

Thanks turtles, they should work out ok. I’ll see what trophies the Bitz box might have

Ezki wrote:Nice work! The shields are looking great. I bet when they are in a unit no one will notice the difference.

Yeah they’ll be hidden by the numbers I bet!

theCrowe wrote:Looking forward to seeing your franken-orks. Kitbashing orks is just how its meant to be.

Agreed, they’re too ramshackle a force to all have the same pose. I might have to call the nob Frank!

Not much to report, a bit more fettling with the Franken-Orks. The last 2 got their new arms, one got an arm reattached after I knocked it off and 2 lost a foot when swapping bases



I forgot to drill the barrels on the new armed boyz. I’ll have to wait until the glue is set to do them now. My superglue ran out so I’m using contacta special glue, which seems to take forever to go off. Not sure whether I’m using it right or not. Has anybody got any experience using it?

I also got the rest of them set up on their bases ready for making more muddy puddles.



I think like the Gretchin I did back in January I’ll mix up their colours a bit, but will do a bit of highlighting on them unlike the Grots, to show their standing in Ork-ciety. I’ll keep progressing the building and prep of minis until I’ve finished all of the shoulder pad icons on the terminators. Then it’ll be finish the BSF painting, then Terminators, then the Orkses.

Thanks for looking

Three exciting projects going. Respect for tackling another 2nd edition horde.

Nice to see the original Ghazkhul! That's a fun model. I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model:



Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Excited to see what kind of frankenork conversions you've got coming up.

Hey Gobert.

That's a clever use of using old bases to bulk out the base for the bolt thrower. The whole piece came out really well done and helps give the bolt thrower a nice solid look.
The whole of your high elves are excellent! The blue and white is such an iconic look for them and you've pulled it off superbly.

And you're not wrong about the arm swaps on the old orks. They really don't look as out of place as you might expect, given the age difference in the parts.

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model
Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Possibly not as inexplicable as you might think!
I would hazard a guess that maybe it was a further subtle poke at Margaret Thacher (who old Ghazy is named in honour of), who was the Prime Minister of England back when what would eventually become GW was just starting to coalesce. And depending on who ask, she was either very good for England and did great things, or was very bad and in the eyes of some, on par with Hitler himself.

Further point of interest, it's not actually a Nazi swastika, which all face clock-wise. This once is more likely a Manji, given it's thickness and the that it faces counter clock-wise.
I don't think even GW would have been that outright ballsy in calling out old Maggie as a Nazi.

Those old school orcs are coming along nicely! I remember them and their art vaguely from early teenager years and always thought "what kind of game is this, that must be cool".

youwashock wrote:Three exciting projects going. Respect for tackling another 2nd edition horde.

Thanks youwashock, I’m just in an Orkish mood of late. May as well finish these before doing my last 2 bikes and the box of boyz. Glad I decided to mix them up a little first.

Don Qui Hotep wrote:Nice to see the original Ghazkhul! That's a fun model. I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model:

Spoiler:

Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Excited to see what kind of frankenork conversions you've got coming up.

I hadn’t really spotted the swastika on the studio banner, but Maggie linkages to Thrakka aside I doubt there was a malicious intent. As Snrub pointed out it’s a left facing swastika, whereas the nazis used a right facing one. Sadly the franken-Orks are just the 2nd Ed boyz with later boyz’ arms.

Snrub wrote:Hey Gobert.

That's a clever use of using old bases to bulk out the base for the bolt thrower. The whole piece came out really well done and helps give the bolt thrower a nice solid look.
The whole of your high elves are excellent! The blue and white is such an iconic look for them and you've pulled it off superbly.

And you're not wrong about the arm swaps on the old orks. They really don't look as out of place as you might expect, given the age difference in the parts.

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model
Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Possibly not as inexplicable as you might think!
I would hazard a guess that maybe it was a further subtle poke at Margaret Thacher (who old Ghazy is named in honour of), who was the Prime Minister of England back when what would eventually become GW was just starting to coalesce. And depending on who ask, she was either very good for England and did great things, or was very bad and in the eyes of some, on par with Hitler himself.

Further point of interest, it's not actually a Nazi swastika, which all face clock-wise. This once is more likely a Manji, given it's thickness and the that it faces counter clock-wise.
I don't think even GW would have been that outright ballsy in calling out old Maggie as a Nazi.

Hi Snrub, glad you like the elves! I wasn’t sure how the bases would work out with the bolt thrower, but it turned out well I think.

I hadn’t realised that Ghaz was named after Maggie. I grew up near mining areas, so you can guess which side of the divide I fall on. That said she did do the odd good thing, probably!

Viterbi wrote:Those old school orcs are coming along nicely! I remember them and their art vaguely from early teenager years and always thought "what kind of game is this, that must be cool".

Young Viterbi was correct, it was(is?) a cool game

I finished up all of the Orks ready for painting. Their muddy bases got applied, the last few arms got reattached and barrels drilled. The fists gained another fist icon shoulder pad and I cleaned up the latest couple. Just one more after tonight’s casting, then probably a bit of GS to tidy the circles up a bit. Here’s the busy desk;



I also cleaned up the Chaos Knights after their dettol bath. The paint just melted off them and they seem to have come up decently;



They’ll join the painting queue once it’s cleared up a little

Thanks for looking

Mmmm... Chaos Knights. I really should be more excited for the Orks though...

Are those the old battlemasters chaos knights?!

Those High Elf shields came out really nicely! I should also try out mold-making and casting at some point...

 Snrub wrote:

 Don Qui Hotep wrote:
I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model
Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Possibly not as inexplicable as you might think!
I would hazard a guess that maybe it was a further subtle poke at Margaret Thacher (who old Ghazy is named in honour of), who was the Prime Minister of England back when what would eventually become GW was just starting to coalesce. And depending on who ask, she was either very good for England and did great things, or was very bad and in the eyes of some, on par with Hitler himself.

Further point of interest, it's not actually a Nazi swastika, which all face clock-wise. This once is more likely a Manji, given it's thickness and the that it faces counter clock-wise.
I don't think even GW would have been that outright ballsy in calling out old Maggie as a Nazi.

That's me, learned! Thanks for the details. I am never sure whether or not to believe whether Thrakka was named after Thatcher, the only official word was a former exec denying it but granted that was probably a PR move. I don't think that Warhammer 40k has any particular social analysis built in, all the critique is quite explicit: here's a binary choice between anarchy and fascism, aren't they both pretty bad? I feel like in the early days everything was a little bit tongue-in-cheek, with the orks getting a lot of bandwidth for comedy in particular.

 gobert wrote:

Don QuiHotep wrote:Nice to see the original Ghazkhul! That's a fun model. I'm glad to see that you decided to eschew the inexplicable swastika armband that was present on the official version of the model:

Spoiler:

Oh dear. I'm really not sure what they were thinking back then!

Excited to see what kind of frankenork conversions you've got coming up.

I hadn’t really spotted the swastika on the studio banner, but Maggie linkages to Thrakka aside I doubt there was a malicious intent. As Snrub pointed out it’s a left facing swastika, whereas the nazis used a right facing one. Sadly the franken-Orks are just the 2nd Ed boyz with later boyz’ arms.

Agreed, I hope that my original post is read in an ironic tone - I'm not accusing anyone at GW of malicious intent, I was just genuinely surprised at a choice made back in the day that feels very different in our modern context.


Back on topic, I am excited for those Chaos Knights! Your desk is looking cluttered with potential. It's nice to have a few different projects to rotate through to keep a sense of variety.