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I'd never accuse you of lurking The Good Green! Always welcome your comments when you have cause to give them.

Re crooked helmet wings - could be the camera angle, could just be because he's an Ork! One of his is trimmed to fit though - so they are different sizes...

I have come to the realisation there isn't a lot of basic boyz in my upcoming plans. It seems Da Dark Angelz are continuing to put toyz before boyz... I'm surprised no-one else mentioned it really...

Oh that's right, you're all here for the conversions, not my army balance!

Painting is continuing slowly. *Really* glad I reduced the number of models I'm working on at once...

Don't think I can bring myself to work on da Stormboyz tonight I think I need to move to pin them before I'll be able to finish the details... Klaw needs to be finished, Bosspoles need to be added. Other minor details - should be able to finish the modelling next week I think - even with the short week.

Might play around with my Predator/Battlewagon instead Or might just call it a night...

Had to put in an order for more plastic and super glue - the plastic glue has deteriorated to almost unusable, and the super glue went gluggy!

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Im going to have to pretend to movie this thread to the 40k Army Lists Section.

Could be the camera angle. Is the one under the rokkit? I'd like to see a close up of how the wings are attached on the top nob too, if you have time. It looks like a rod going through two holes in the nob's head.
*whisper* don't forget to fix the barrel hole on the 2nd nob.

Yes, the one under the rokkit is "clipped" to fit. I'll get you a close up of the wing attachment next week. Both helmet wings are pinned in place. The top nob has holes in his head where I tried attaching them in a different way initially - which just means you can see the pinning. This will be covered up later with GS.

On closer inspection, I don't think I will be able to get pistons or chains to work. If they were going to work, they probably only would work on the rear - which wouldn't help the front anyway. I think battle damage, plus perhaps some added plates/rivets will do the job. Thinking about attaching extra spikes/blades along the wing top too...

I think they can almost obscure a Trukk (well, one without wheels, from the front anyway...) - not that that was my intention...

Played around with bitz from the Battlewago and Predator kits - did you know the "holes" match for size? I am predicting awesome things ahead...




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What is wrong with the barrel hole? It's a bit off centre, but that's Orky right?

Arakasi wrote:
Played around with bitz from the Battlewago and Predator kits - did you know the "holes" match for size? I am predicting awesome things ahead...

Interesting, I'll have to keep that in mind. Looted wagon or battlewagon?

Looted wagon - magnetised with all options of course - though playing experience dictates that the magnetisation will be done with more regard to surviving gaming...

It also matches the sizes of the back hatch inserts on the land raider. The only one they don't match up to is the one for the TL HB.

The last few times you've posted pics of the nobz, I thought they were done being modeled. It's nuts how much detail you put in. I hope I have that much time some day, and at least half your skill.

Actually I like that helmet where you can see the pin I see that head in more of a bionik mask fashion myself, and was thinking of the ork ramming a pole through his head to attach his 'elmet wingz to

Guess that's just my viewpoint though

monkeytroll wrote:I see that head in more of a bionik mask fashion myself

Iron Man anyone?

monkeytroll wrote:ramming a pole through his head to attach his 'elmet wingz to

So very orky! good point

With the wings, how about cabling from the top front down and round to the rear of the wings. That way there's something visual from the front and it attaches at the rear where you think there is a bit of space.

Finally have some progress to report on Arakasi's "bug boss".

Well, I sat down and worked out the arms with orkish "mantis arm" equivalents. They went together cleanly and relatively smoothly. There are a few details to add and a little green stuffing, but other than that they're set. Unfortunately I realized that the only nobs I have are the Black Reach ones, and while these are good figures they are pretty much molded as completed figures, making posing or customizing a challenge. I had several ideas for how I was going to transform my ork, but after staring at it, the bits at hand and trying out just about every option I had... I scrapped most of my ideas. Am looking now for new bits... failing that a major re shaping of one of the Black Reach nobs will be in order (or a major re-design of my concept...). Very frustrating.

- Gits


Update:

I just had an epiphany that saved the project!! Yippie! It's going to take a bit of gerrymandering but I think I can proceed as originally planned. Will post a pic as soon as there's something to photograph.. right now it's just a bunch of sawed up bits.

@ Arakasi: Sorry took me so long to respond. Yes, I think the wings are off because of the cleanliness. TOO Clean. I think, now that you mention it, that some severe battle damage would Orkify them enough for my taste. Ultimately the figs are yours and only really need to please you...and your trader. Anxiously waiting to see the results.

@Heffling: Good to know!

@The Good Green: Apologies for the confusion! Basically, any time I've made some progress, I try to put a pic up. On the plus side, I get to post more than once a month but more importantly, I can get feedback before I have moved too far along. On the negative side, sometimes I get comments that will be answered once more of the vision is together. I hate to rework stuff, especially once the foundation coat is on - so this way I give everyone plenty of time to make their most excellent suggestions Don't worry - I (usually) give ample warning that this is "done" and you have your last chance to comment before the first coat of paint goes on! The Nobz aren't there yet - hopefully end of this week...

I love doing the details, and I love improving my ability and skills to do so. I've seen your work - you do not give yourself enough credit! I never feel like I have "that much time" though... I get about 3-4 hours 4 nights a week - and this is all I have to show for it When Da Boss gets her wish and I'm not working away from home so much, I imagine there will be a decrease in time... I'm hoping to finish the current round of painting *before* then

@monkeytroll: You would! I don't think the holes are going to make it - but you'll still be able to see the ends outside the helmet wings Note to everyone - when talking about wings - please be clear *which* wings you are referring! Your idea of cabling is interesting, if you could just provide more info (ie to which wings you are referring in first and second part!)

@HadoukenAvenger: You forgot the obligatory "stay away - it's *my* idea"

@Gitsplitta: Looking forward to seeing more! (especially an update on the pics in the Great Marine Swap)

@Artsoldier35: No worries - life before Dakka as Da Boss always says... I've managed to catch myself multiple times saying things like "in my opinion" etc in other posts - it really does go without saying. My aim is not to please everyone - apart from being impossible, well, it may lead to stuff I don't like either. However - I do appreciate all comments and suggestions - even if I appear to ignore some . Sometimes they lead to unexpected and totally unrelated ideas. Sometimes I just forget In this case, it helped me to clarify something that was niggling at me. Once you know what is causing something to be "off", its actually possible to do something about it. Hopefully I can address it satisfactorily in my next iteration.

I expect no more or less of you when I get to your trade

If anyone's interested in seeing what Arakasi's getting in return for that phenomenal storm boy nob, I've got a WIP up on the "great marine swap" thread. So far... so good.

Yes, ultimately it's all for you and those you play against. Your models are incredible and far beyond what most of us could do anyway. It's an extreme pleasure to watch your models progress.

@Gitsplitta: Feel free to post the pics here too if you want...

@Artsoldier35: Thanks, though I think you do yourself a disservice - practise makes progress! There are plenty of Dakkites that easily put me to shame, that I hope to one day achieve their level of ability. Still, if you (all) promise to keep making such excellent comments and suggestions, I promise to keep you all informed as I work towards it!




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Some progress on da Stormboyz Nobz... Orkified da wingz (chipped, battered, bullet holes, plates, rivits). Added Bosspoles. The aim with the Bosspole's was to allow pennant style banners. I may have overdone it Though it looks better on Nob 1 than Nob 2 in my opinion... (due to the angle of da wingz). If I keep them here, I still need to clip and re-attach the hangings (skulls, teef, bullets) so that they are not gravity defying. If I don't, well, the only other option would seem to be to place them more vertically on the Jump Pack rokkits. Your thoughts required!

Stormboyz Nob 1 (for Gitsplitta)


Stormboyz Nob 2 (for me)

Arakasi wrote:@Gitsplitta: Feel free to post the pics here too if you want...

Sure Arakasi, thank you!

So here's my poor attempt at living up to the standard that Arakasi is setting. It's a "bug boy"... a Bad Moon nob from my Boss Gitsplitta's band that has become so enamored of the Mantis Warrior Vanguard (who they battle frequently) that he has kitted himself out to emulate them. He's donned some bits from a captured suit of terminator armor (legs and shoulder pads) and has paid many teef for one of the meks in the clan to make "dem bug boy reachy, ouchy tings" (the Arms of the Mantis). I suppose I could take a pic of the bug boy & a vanguard side-by-side so you can see the comparison, but I'll save that 'till he's finished.

Need to sort out his backpack & insect "wings" next. I have ideas but not the bits... working on that last part.

Definitely looks better on 1 than 2. Think they need shortening a tad if they're staying there.

As to my cable ramblings I meant on the actual wings, if you were still looking for extra 'workings' on the wings, but looking a bit closer I'm not sure it would work, heres a quick pic anyway(sorry for the poor mspaint-fu)


Actually if you kept the cable in contact with the wing strut all the way, rather than wrapping loosely around it might be ok - could maybe carry it up the banner pole too

Gitsplitta - v.nice, love those 'bug boy reachy, ouchy tings'

Hmmm... on further reflection, I'm thinking I will move the Bosspoles to the Rokkit packs - it just seems to take too much away from the wingz. Also, I think the tops are too heavy, I think I'll cut them off and replace them with single skulls/helmets instead. Suggestions welcome!

Yeah, weight distribution is an issue I'm having to keep in mind for yours as well. The rock and weighted base will help, but I have to be careful with the materials I choose for his backpack & how I build his insect wings. His final placement on the base will be determined by where he needs to be to keep his center of balance squarely on the base so he has less of a tendency to tip.

For what it's worth, I think moving the poles off the wing struts is a good idea for the exact reasons you state. Also if you boss poles end up at angles, you might want to either reposition or trim off the danglies so they aren't "hanging" at a 30-degree angle.

Arakasi wrote:I still need to clip and re-attach the hangings (skulls, teef, bullets) so that they are not gravity defying

Gitsplitta wrote:Also if you boss poles end up at angles, you might want to either reposition or trim off the danglies so they aren't "hanging" at a 30-degree angle.

Noted I don't think it will be an issue after the transplant. By "too heavy" I actually meant aesthetically - they draw the attention up from the head to the jump pack - completely the wrong focus. Weight distribution *is* a worthy consideration. Currently it doesn't seem to be an issue here though...

Sorry I missed you already addressing that point... it's what I get for just looking at the pics & not reading carefully.

I get what you're saying... and I see it to. When I look at the last pic of yours up there, my eyes are immediately drawn away from the figure & up to the tips of the boss poles.

Interesting bit, that. Have to watch that in my own modeling.



Update: think I just sorted it out... going to take a bit of scratch building... but we'll see what we can do.

@monkeytroll: Not ignoring you! Is that two cables - a red and a green? Currently probably won't use - good idea, but I'm getting to the point where I need to top adding things! With that in mind...

Update! Repositioned and de-emphasized the Boss Poles. I think they are a *lot* better - how about you? Finished the Klaws. Getting perilously close to finished... I want to do a last check against the Stormboyz bodies - see if there is anything I can/want to add - but I'm pretty much at the point where adding stuff is more likely to detract... Then there is some GS work to fill gaps and smooth joins - might even manage to complete them this week! (Modelling wise that is)

Gitsplitta's Stormboy Nob


My Stormboy Nob

I like the smaller bosspole icons. Draws less attention away from the ork himself.

Yep, looks better with these

Was showing the 2 placements I'd thought off, sorry should have said that Yeah, I think it'd be too much clutter (unless it was a thin cable, tightly wrapped ), was just throwing it out as you'd asked for a clearer explanation - which I then failed to give

Klaws look good, especially on the second guy

Progress:

Back pack and wings are in progress. Might have a WIP shot on the morrow.

Gits

Awesome! The wings are coming out great. I like where you are going with the boss poles, but I don't think this new pair is Nobish enough. I like the SM icon, all shot up, but the toothy blade looks too small.

The klaws look good. It looks like you carved some of the SM armour away under the blades. All in all, very amazing work! It's funny, too- the more you do to them the more they look like mirror images.

You too, Gitsplitta. Da Bug Boy looks fantastic.

Man that stormy boy is epic on a level I cant really describe. Incredible job. I am going to have to copy them for my next set of storm boyz. Quite impressive. The Praying Mantis chainsaws are a nice touch.