If you change the URL for the Forgeworld blog from blog 6 to Blog 7 it actualy takes you too a page with two photos that are obviously there ready for a new blog. So looks like new Thallax Cohort weapons, and A new ROB tile. Happy days.
So, uh, my Sevrin Loth and Honor Guard order showed up today, and in the leaflet catalogue thingy there's a picture of 3 Myrmadon Destructors. That been posted somewhere in this news/rumors thread yet? I've followed this since page 16 is all and backtracking 16 pages of posts is kind of daunting. So I don't know if it was shown anywhere before it. I can snap a quick photo if you want.
Also that buildig looks pretty nice, I just don't have space or money for terrain.
I think its the Rad cleansers they look the same as the Rad cleanser Magos Dominus has.
I think it must the be photon thruster cannon- that is the only ad mech specific weapon family we haven't seen any models or prototypes for after GD 2013. If you search for the images of mymidons at GD 2013, you can see models with Irad cleansers, and the fins are right at the end of the barrel, the same as the Magos Dominus model already on FW's website. Also, the fins have a different shape to this one, and don't spiral round the barrel a little. The Irad weapons are also much shorter than this weapon. So I conclude it is the photon thruster cannon, with some excitement, as that is what I've been holding out for as a weapon option for Thallaxii. On a side note, it is actually a lance weapon.
Also that buildig looks pretty nice, I just don't have space or money for terrain.
I think its the Rad cleansers they look the same as the Rad cleanser Magos Dominus has.
I think it must the be photon thruster cannon- that is the only ad mech specific weapon family we haven't seen any models or prototypes for after GD 2013. If you search for the images of mymidons at GD 2013, you can see models with Irad cleansers, and the fins are right at the end of the barrel, the same as the Magos Dominus model already on FW's website. Also, the fins have a different shape to this one, and don't spiral round the barrel a little. The Irad weapons are also much shorter than this weapon. So I conclude it is the photon thruster cannon, with some excitement, as that is what I've been holding out for as a weapon option for Thallaxii. On a side note, it is actually a lance weapon.
I reckon you're about right.
I'm waiting for the Castellax with the Darkfire Cannon. It'll do nicely as a lone unit. Just hope it doesn't go all Iron Men on me when the Magos Dominus loses control...
It's freehand, no pen, just brush and lots of practice ... A bit off topic though guys, as magnificent as his work is, it is not FW news. Please stick to new releases or business...
Yeah, a heavy support section has been added to the mechanicus part of the FW website- currently empty. Where did you find these pictures of the Myrmidons though?
Haighus wrote: Yeah, a heavy support section has been added to the mechanicus part of the FW website- currently empty. Where did you find these pictures of the Myrmidons though?
Like the pictures of the generator tile, he may have changed the number in the web address to see what hasn't officially been published yet..
I am the only one who thinks it would be beyond awesome to bring back the Horus Heresy-era technology to 40k? Space Marine Jetbikes? Weird Mars laser weapons?
They look a little less like Hi-Tech sculpts now. Honestly, I don't understand why people are quite so worked up over them, the Thallax looked better. To be clear, there's nothing particularly wrong with them but nothing I can see that would explain quite how excited some people have gotten.
sockwithaticket wrote: They look a little less like Hi-Tech sculpts now. Honestly, I don't understand why people are quite so worked up over them, the Thallax looked better. To be clear, there's nothing particularly wrong with them but nothing I can see that would explain quite how excited some people have gotten.
Yep. These are the only ones of FW's Ad Mech models I don't like.
I'm not too keen on these, either. They look like your average Scibor sculpts, and I don't see the need for the tentacle bits. They'll make it hard to line them up for combat and will snap easily during transport, being long and thin tubes of resin. Sub-par and ill-conceived works, in my opinion.
What's odd to me is that they don't seem substantially different to the preview pics, but for some reason the new image just isn't doing anything for me. Maybe the paintjob makes the arms look too weedy or something? Hmm.
Now definitely getting these for obliterators.
£31.50 for O's which look nasty, £47.50 for SM Centurions (an alternative I had thought about to convert) or £36 for FW M's.
FW it is then!
(I know I can get a discount price on the official O's somewhere but they just look horrible).
I will probably not put the tentacle things on but rather use them all on a warpsmith conversion, maybe using the plastic WFB Nurgle Lord.
Agreed they're better unpainted. The technique the FW painter/s use for the brass just seems to break up the lines and make the whole model look confused and messy. I'm not a big enough fan of, nor do I hVe a use for, these to buy them, but if I were on the fence, the unpainted pics are a lot more convincing.
Haighus wrote:I think it is an Irad weapon- they have similar nozzles- got the same cone with 3 fins look as the Magos weapon- just has 2 of them.
Having checked the book, I'm fairly sure it is an irradiation engine, which is a bigger version of what the magos is armed with.
The page describes it as a Photon Thruster cannon.
sockwithaticket wrote:They look a little less like Hi-Tech sculpts now. Honestly, I don't understand why people are quite so worked up over them, the Thallax looked better. To be clear, there's nothing particularly wrong with them but nothing I can see that would explain quite how excited some people have gotten.
Thallax were cute but kind of mono-pose and mono build. Myrmidons are amazing; no Hitech sculpt comes quite close (the closest stuff being the Alpha Corporis miniatures but they're Terminator sized and kinda similar) The sheer size of the miniature (they tower over Thallax) The robed-terminator(as in the movie) -badassness of the sculpt, and finally a real War-techpriest miniature, such an awesome concept and execution.
-DE- wrote:I'm not too keen on these, either. They look like your average Scibor sculpts, and I don't see the need for the tentacle bits. They'll make it hard to line them up for combat and will snap easily during transport, being long and thin tubes of resin. Sub-par and ill-conceived works, in my opinion.
They look nothing like Scibor sculpts; Scibor stuff tends to be celtic-themed and ovaloid, whereas these are clearly 40k in style, and importantly Mechanicus/Blanchey. Mechadendrites are awesome, and since when was practicality/transportability a priority for models? Line them up for combat? Myrmidon Destructors should never see melee combat. How are they sub-par and ill conceived? Post an image of an equivalent model line with this quality of sculpt, please.
Yodhrin wrote:What's odd to me is that they don't seem substantially different to the preview pics, but for some reason the new image just isn't doing anything for me. Maybe the paintjob makes the arms look too weedy or something? Hmm.
I think it's the paint job, it looks rushed and is slightly disappointing. Either that or we're too used to looking at the unpainted resin sculpts and dreaming.
Tennants Lager wrote:Myrmidons? Cool. Anything that allows me to quote from Blackadder in games is alright with me.
"What news of the foul Myrmidons?"
"Scattered to the 9 Vectors my lord..."
I'll get my coat...
Love it.
Sirius42 wrote:They are awesome, ordered!, the unpainted pics make them look a lot better IMO.
Rushed paintjob? It doesn't seem up to FW's usual standard.
Haighus wrote:I think it is an Irad weapon- they have similar nozzles- got the same cone with 3 fins look as the Magos weapon- just has 2 of them.
Having checked the book, I'm fairly sure it is an irradiation engine, which is a bigger version of what the magos is armed with.
The page describes it as a Photon Thruster cannon.
Forge World wrote:The Myrmidon Destructors are priests of the Mechanicum who specialise in the art of destruction with ranged weaponry and the embodiment of this within their own vastly augmented bodies.
This complete resin set contains three Mechanicum Myrmidon Destructor models with a volkite Culverin, irradiation engine and conversion beamer respectively. Mechanicum Thrall model shown in some images sold separately.
Er, where did you read the page describes it as a photon thruster?
OK, yeah the unpainted pics look wonderful by comparison, it's mainly down to the robes which it looks like they didn't bother to matte varnish after they washed/inked them so they're all glossy, and the armour which uses that awful process of just edge-lining brass/bronze/gold colours with a silver paint and calling it a day. The halfhearted OSL doesn't do them any favours either. I'll be grabbing these on Friday I think.
Also, it specifically labels these as Destructors, so we should get Secutors as well soon.
They were listed as including a photon thruster when I first viewed the FW page at about 5am PST. I'm guessing that the page was edited, as it now lists them with an irradiation engine. The listing also doesn't say that they're available for preorder/shipping on "x" date. I'm guessing this particular page was pushed ahead schedule. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the Thallax w/multi-melta/other weapons soon.
Love the Ad-mech stuff that they are doing. If GW was going to further a ad-mech line i would love it if there was a Dark ad-mech component. Fat chance of that though
sennacherib wrote: Love the Ad-mech stuff that they are doing. If GW was going to further a ad-mech line i would love it if there was a Dark ad-mech component. Fat chance of that though
If Forge World were to further an Ad-Mech line, you would see Dark Mechanicus once you get a bit further into the Horus Heresy.
It wasn't a case of "Well gents, it's the Heresy and we're the Dark Mechanicus. Start making the craziest stuff possible and add spikes to it! We go to waaaaaaaar!" overnight. It took time.
Well, they haven't made command sets for those Mks yet. Probably because the current FWHH books are only covering the very beginning of the HH so far, and the other Mks haven't yet been introduced in anything but the most prototype form. I'm sure we will start to see the later Mks more often as the books progress.
I added all the bits in the Strike Force sets & it came to £139.
Set includes:
Command - £25
4 x 5 man squads - £23 x 4 = £92
2 x 10 bolters - £11 x 2 = £22
Total if bought separately = £139 which means a £14 / 10% saving.
Haven't worked out the larger Legion Invasion sets yet, but as I want my troops to have mixed-up armour I'll be going for the MKII & MKIII sets myself.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I might get a couple of the DG torso sets which means I'll have some regular ones left. Might put these on current plastic marines (MKVII?) & stick them at the back of my squads so they don't stick out so much. Or maybe make sergeants out of them was Corvus pattern helmets, if I can find some?
Views anyone?
Absolutely pumped for the new Mechanicus releases!
There's been a fair few requests on the FB page to release separate weapons, because the mix of 3 is next to useless. They've been coy and said that a special announcement is incoming.
Actually I was asking both, I couldn't find the Heresy armour in the Horus Heresy section, silly me. Bit disappointed there aren't more bundle deals on them too. Hopefully they'll start on them soon because I like all the studs on MkV.
Howard A Treesong wrote: Actually I was asking both, I couldn't find the Heresy armour in the Horus Heresy section, silly me. Bit disappointed there aren't more bundle deals on them too. Hopefully they'll start on them soon because I like all the studs on MkV.
I think we haven't seem them as the Heresy has only just begun, bookwise. I suspect as they release more books, the earlier marks will become rarer and the later marks more popular.
I would expect more mark 5's as things progress and not so much mark 6.
Mark 5 was a stop gap armour variant and caled heresy armour because of the time in which it came about.
The bonded studs were put in to reinforce the armour because materials wee becoming scarcer and it wa getting harder to maintain the already damaged armour.
The mark 5 helm was an off shoot of the Terminator programme.
According to fluff, the mark 6's were mostly given to the Raven Guard I think, after the Istvaan 5 drop site massacre. A gift from Dorn (ref. Deliverance lost). And was named Coveus armour in recognition of the work Corax and his Raven Guard had done to help develop the suit.
These were taken from Mars as the Imperial Fists evacuated due to the civil war (ref. Mechanicum)
I believe deliverance lost makes mention of vengeance rounds as the Raven guard tech priests,have some traitor ammo and discover iy has also been engineered to purposefully crack power armour, cant remeber if the raven guard develop their own version of this.
Howard A Treesong wrote:Hopefully they'll start on them soon because I like all the studs on MkV.
heh.
dantay_xv wrote:I would expect more mark 5's as things progress and not so much mark 6.
Mark 5 was a stop gap armour variant and caled heresy armour because of the time in which it came about.
The bonded studs were put in to reinforce the armour because materials wee becoming scarcer and it wa getting harder to maintain the already damaged armour.
The mark 5 helm was an off shoot of the Terminator programme.
According to fluff, the mark 6's were mostly given to the Raven Guard I think, after the Istvaan 5 drop site massacre. A gift from Dorn (ref. Deliverance lost). And was named Coveus armour in recognition of the work Corax and his Raven Guard had done to help develop the suit.
These were taken from Mars as the Imperial Fists evacuated due to the civil war (ref. Mechanicum)
I believe deliverance lost makes mention of vengeance rounds as the Raven guard tech priests,have some traitor ammo and discover iy has also been engineered to purposefully crack power armour, cant remeber if the raven guard develop their own version of this.
The 'new' fluff has a lot of MKVI suits going to the Raven Guard as a rather gooftastic way of 'explaining' the name of the armor.
sockwithaticket wrote: asmodai asmodean - I wasn't attacking the quality of the sculpt, more commenting on the aesthetic. When I see Myrmadons this is where my mind goes
They do look better unpainted, which seems to be something you can say of most Horus Heresy releases.
Yes, but the Hitech sculpt is a) Based on the concept of Mechanicus (hoods, exposed wiring) b) Basically a Techpriest in Terminator armour. The Myrmidon Secutor axe is far better, while the Myrmidons are a more sophisticated, original take on the whole Mechanicus goes to war concept, while tying in with the aesthetic of the other 30k Mechanicus stuff ( Similar power generators on the Castellax and Magos Dominus). All these little details tie in to make them amazing.
I was going to buy the Hitech miniatures for my Mechanicus army but then saw the FW previews, and immediately thought feth that, the FW sculpts are 100x more beautiful.
Beauty, as ever, in the eye of the beholder.
Miniatures usually look better unpainted, because you can project your infinite fantasies onto them; Once painted, you're locked into the colour scheme of the final product.
I'm not sure what's the delay with Secutors? They were done at GD 2013 as well. Paint job? Weapons options?
Every week in the Forge World Studio there’s something new to see. It could be a brand new character, a freshly painted unit or maybe an upgrade to one of our existing models. Earlier this week I took a walk past the desk of designer Will Hayes, who has been working on a selection of weapons.
One of the new armaments available to the Thallax.
Blake Spence, the owner of a fine Emperor’s Children Legion you may have seen in a previous blog post, has recently been designing some new Realm of Battle industrial complex tiles. Blake’s created some fantastic scenery in the past and these new tiles are really looking awesome and are packed with loads of features to fight around.
Blake’s latest board is going to make for some great battles.
Passing through Warhammer World recently, I met Wesley Vickers from Leek who had brought his renegade Imperial Guard army from the Siege of Vraks campaign to face his foes in the gaming hall. His army includes a Blight Drone and Valdor, among other great looking Forge World models.
Wesley’s renegade Imperial Guard army advance through the ruins.
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His rumour track record is not the best , but anyway:
necronspurs2012 on Faeit212 wrote:Forge world have completely taken over finecast for good as well as the whole of the hobbit/lotr range. Apparently gw no longer care for it as it does not make them enough profits compared to 40k and famtasy. This also makes the rumours about fw making their oen hobbit kits such as smaug more believable
a reader on Faeit 212 wrote:So I dont think I saw an official notification from GW that finecast was gone now but I received my 10 legion of the damned guys today and they are a dark grey plastic/resin much like the FW mini's.
See pix attached, I saw a warp spider in this material too today and its really good stuff, not a single fault in any of the 10 I ordered.
I actually found a few old finecast bits and these newer models are a slightly lighter shade of grey, and I can only exainplain the colour and lack of faults on it being a new material.
Though I did start second guessing myself but it seems to be harder to drill and than the older stuff.
It just feels more like the harder FW resins. The store manager seemed very interested in how good these were and I was like this does now look like finecast.
Who know either way I have never seen so many faultless models in one place ever
We've had that rumor(or the inverse rumor of "Forge World is using Finecast!!11!!) happen every three or four months since Forge World started using sprues for some models.
Like Forge World's resin, Finecast can range in coloration. I've had some dark grey and some that are almost white.
Kanluwen wrote: We've had that rumor(or the inverse rumor of "Forge World is using Finecast!!11!!) happen every three or four months since Forge World started using sprues for some models.
Not just rumors, indisputable fact. It's not just the finecast-style sprues, it's the finecast material: that awful fragile and bubble-filled mess where the question isn't whether you need to get the defective product replaced, it's how many times you need to get it replaced before you finally have enough not-completely-ruined pieces to make a whole model. There is no question about it, FW used, and possibly continues to use, a "we swear it's not finecast" resin that is exactly like finecast for some of their kits.
Like Forge World's resin, Finecast can range in coloration. I've had some dark grey and some that are almost white.
But it's not just the color in that post. The texture is different, and the material is much harder compared to the soft finecast garbage.
FW made me really happy when they emailed me back.. I asked them about the Dreadclaw's funky rules because I would love to use some in my CSM army if they actually had Drop Pod Assault.
"Thanks for your email. These rules are being updated at the Dreadclaw will get Drop Pod Assault".
Brometheus wrote: FW made me really happy when they emailed me back.. I asked them about the Dreadclaw's funky rules because I would love to use some in my CSM army if they actually had Drop Pod Assault.
"Thanks for your email. These rules are being updated at the Dreadclaw will get Drop Pod Assault".
So that's good? Right?
Well it would go from me not buying one, to me buying 2-3 so its not good for the wallet at least.
Weekender tickets are up (i got mine in the pre-sale open to last year's attendees..
HORUS HERESY WEEKENDER 2014
Saturday 17th to Sunday 18th May 2014 at the Nottingham Belfry Hotel
Mellors Way
Nottingham
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Tickets are available here. Tickets are limited to 3 per customer.
Like last year, the Horus Heresy Weekender is crammed full of events and entertainment including seminars, gaming, plenty of opportunities to chat with writers, designers and artists who worked on the Horus Heresy ranges, plus there will be some exclusive offers on products over the weekend. Confirmed guests so far include Black Library authors Nick Kyme, John French, and David Annandale plus Forge World's Alan Bligh, Simon Egan and Edgar Skomorowski. More guests will be announced in the coming weeks via the Forge World website and our regular newsletters.
Doors will be open at 9am on both days, with Saturday's entertainment continuing through dinner and on into the night. The Weekender will finish at around 5pm on Sunday. A full list of events will be provided in the coming weeks.
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Designed to operate in the most lethal and hazardous theatres of war, the Thallaxii have undergone extensive cybernetic augmentation, allowing them to wield extremely potent weaponry with inhuman accuracy. Created exclusively by the Ordo Reductor for the other militant arms of the Mechanicum, what little organic material remains of the Thallaxii is protected and enhanced by the Lorica Thallax. This encases their major organs, nervous system and cerebrum, their skeleton and limbs being entirely replaced with armoured mechanical systems powered by an internal reactor core. Their primary weapon is the lightning gun, which is just as effective at killing the living as it is at overloading vehicles and weapons.
When engaging with more heavily armoured targets such as vehicles or fortifications, the Thallaxii will be rearmed with the devastating multi-melta, the furious blast of heat it produces turning an enemy’s sanctuary into little more than bubbling slag.
The Mechanicum Thallax Cohort with Multi-melta set, designed by Will Hayes, contains three resin models and is available to pre-order now. These sets will be despatched from Monday 31st March. Full rules for these models can be found in The Horus Heresy Book Two: Massacre.
The Thallaxii are heavily augmented cyborg shock-troops used by the Mechanicum Ordo Reductor, and they differ from the Skitarii regiments both in purpose and the unique degree of their augmetics. The Lorica Thallax was developed from power armour technology and requires a robust human specimen.
The Lorica encloses the major organs, nervous system and cerebrum, but entirely replaces the skeletal structure and limbs with armoured bionics powered by an internal reactor-core. Surgical excision of the subject’s pain sensors, emotions, and normal human sensory apparatus and the agony caused by the Lorica’s implantation, leaves the Thallax a cold, calculating killing machine (albeit one that retains a degree of independent thought).
This set includes three resin Mechanicum Thallax models, one of which is armed with a photon thruster weapon, the others being armed with lightning guns. These models are available for pre-order now and will be despatched from March 31st. Models designed by Will Hayes.
With the Forge World Open Day only a few weeks away, the Forge World Studio is a hive of activity. There are going to be so many cool new models to buy at the event, I hardly know which to tell you about first! Each of them will also be available to order in the weeks and months following the Open Day.
So far I know that a mighty warrior from the Horus Heresy will be unveiled and a new Mechanicum vehicle will roll out of the Forge World manufactorum. I've also seen some more brand new Realm of Battle Industrial boards and caught sight of what Phil Stutcinskas has been busy working away on – a mightily impressive behemoth in the form of a new super-heavy Space Marine tank.
Phil working on his latest creation.
There’ll be more details on the Forge World Open Day in upcoming blogs and newsletters, so stay tuned.
After all this excitement, I calmed myself down by taking a wander through the Forge World Studio to look at what everyone has been working on for their own hobby. Mark Bedford, who has been responsible for creating many amazing models, from the Myrmidon Destructors to the Legion Champion and Master of Signal, has been working on a Legion of his own, those born of fire and remade on the anvil of war, the Salamanders.
A squad of Mark’s Salamanders led by a converted Techmarine.
As you can see, Mark enjoys the challenge of converting his models. The MkIII Space Marines armed with volkite calivers above are led by a Techmarine that started out as an Iron Hands Medusan Immortal. The model gained a conversion beamer that was originally part of Valthex of the Astral Claws, a power axe from the MkIII Power Weapons set and a volkite charger among other parts. Mark also added a flame insignia to the Techmarine’s armour using Green Stuff.
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I concur, Baneblade - Fellblade, Shadowsword - Fellsword?
It's obviously a Fellblade chassi but with a fixed raised superstructure instead of a turrent and there's Neutron Laser barrels scattered around the workplace sooo..
Meh, the Sicaran and Spartan sized versions of the neutron laser did not impress me, so I doubt a Fellblade version will be that much better. Still need to assemble my Glaive, anyway.
Cool, I was wondering if they were going to do more with the Fellblade chassis! It does look as if it's going to be Shadowsword inspired the same way the Fellblade/ (Fell)glaive is Baneblade inspired. The HHCCG had something called a Mammoth tank, while a super old issue of White Dwarf used the name Falchion.
A Legion version of the Shadowsword would make sense. The Fellblade and Glaive are already infantry killers, so an anti-armor variant would fill the gap.
Tannhauser42 wrote: A Legion version of the Shadowsword would make sense. The Fellblade and Glaive are already infantry killers, so an anti-armor variant would fill the gap.
Well, the Fellblade is excellent at knocking out lesser vehicles- it is better at anti-armour than a standard baneblade and worse at taking out infantry, but a super-heavy hunting tank is definitely the missing one though, as well as maybe a siege stormsword variant, and the variable fire blastgun variant. I cant see FW making a load of odd looking transport ones like GW, but maybe an artillery one like the Banesword? Cant think of any other niches really.
Also, Stormswords were originally a field conversion from shadowswords that couldnt be repaired, so they may not have been around as early as the HH. Marines may still have had their own version though.
agnosto wrote: Gee more imperial stuff, queue the surprise music.... [/sarcasm]
Does a sculptor lose his job if the model imperial to zenos ration drops below 50:1?
They're just making what sells the most....
It sells the most, because that is what they mostly make
If there are 20 varieties of one type of product, and 1 variety of another type of product, then the product with the most varieties will do better. That has been proven through testing, iirc.
agnosto wrote: Gee more imperial stuff, queue the surprise music.... [/sarcasm]
Does a sculptor lose his job if the model imperial to zenos ration drops below 50:1?
They're just making what sells the most....
It sells the most, because that is what they mostly make
Sorry but no dice. People like marines... their models sell better and so do their books which is why they get made. In any case, they're currently fleshing out the horus heresy which is a marine on marine primarily setting... what do you expect them to make?
agnosto wrote: Gee more imperial stuff, queue the surprise music.... [/sarcasm]
Does a sculptor lose his job if the model imperial to zenos ration drops below 50:1?
They're just making what sells the most....
It sells the most, because that is what they mostly make
Sorry but no dice. People like marines... their models sell better and so do their books which is why they get made. In any case, they're currently fleshing out the horus heresy which is a marine on marine primarily setting... what do you expect them to make?
Oh, I understand about the Horus Heresy. But even before the Heresy series, most of FW's products are Imperial.
Which is why I'm hoping they'll do War in Heaven to balance it out.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I still wish they sold them separately. I don't really want or need more regular ones. I've got about 15 of them.
Completely agree. As someone that also has 15 of them, I feel a bit hosed that I can't get the special weapons (which should have just been included in the kit to begin with) by themselves.
@Medium - Yes, you can pretty much field all Thallax, as they're troops. You'd still need an HQ though.
Eventually, once they've done a few more books, we'll have enough units to warrant an entire Mechanicum list (rather than the partial lists with only a few options that we've been getting).
So more Thrall types, more regular troops beyond Thallaxii, more robots, our own vehicles, and different Tech-Priest units (like the Myrmidons). When? Who knows - this is speculation at this point - but it seems that by the time we hit a "War on Mars" book (which they have to do, they're called 'Forge World' after all) these things will be complete.
According to FW MECHANICUM THALLAX COHORT
CASTELLAX BATTLE-AUTOMATA
and TECH-THRALLS WITH LAS-LOCKS are all troops. There are maniples of the first two but the thralls are a squad.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Eventually, once they've done a few more books, we'll have enough units to warrant an entire Mechanicum list (rather than the partial lists with only a few options that we've been getting).
So more Thrall types, more regular troops beyond Thallaxii, more robots, our own vehicles, and different Tech-Priest units (like the Myrmidons). When? Who knows - this is speculation at this point - but it seems that by the time we hit a "War on Mars" book (which they have to do, they're called 'Forge World' after all) these things will be complete.
Rumors are one of the books will include an entire army list for Dark Mechanicum, so there's a good chance that'd be the one you're looking forward to.
Hereteks in actual tabletop form? Hereteks in actual tabletop form.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Eventually, once they've done a few more books, we'll have enough units to warrant an entire Mechanicum list (rather than the partial lists with only a few options that we've been getting).
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Sooo.. I've got on pretty solid authority that the HH book after Phall will actually BE the War on Mars book, and not Prospero like we all thought, with a potential 4Q2014 release....
I don't know any insider details but it feels like they're drawing out the HH a bit too long IMO. I fully realize it is the single biggest chain of events in 40k (and the only real time the plot advanced...10,000 years ago!) but 6+ books at the pace they come out with stuff feels like too long. One Istvaan book, one Terra book, one "other" astartes book, and one "other" human (AM, Imperial Army) book would have sufficed and allowed them to return to some more modern setting (with some xenos love sprinkled in) while still doing the HH setting justice.
warboss wrote: I don't know any insider details but it feels like they're drawing out the HH a bit too long IMO. I fully realize it is the single biggest chain of events in 40k (and the only real time the plot advanced...10,000 years ago!) but 6+ books at the pace they come out with stuff feels like too long. One Istvaan book, one Terra book, one "other" astartes book, and one "other" human (AM, Imperial Army) book would have sufficed and allowed them to return to some more modern setting (with some xenos love sprinkled in) while still doing the HH setting justice.
warboss wrote: I don't know any insider details but it feels like they're drawing out the HH a bit too long IMO. I fully realize it is the single biggest chain of events in 40k (and the only real time the plot advanced...10,000 years ago!) but 6+ books at the pace they come out with stuff feels like too long. One Istvaan book, one Terra book, one "other" astartes book, and one "other" human (AM, Imperial Army) book would have sufficed and allowed them to return to some more modern setting (with some xenos love sprinkled in) while still doing the HH setting justice.
I'll assume you've read through the FWHH books, right? (not trying to be a douche here; honestly just asking) I mean, there's a LOOOOOOTTT of stuff in each one of those, both gameplay and story wise. I'm just not exactly sure where they'd "trim the fat," as it were, in those books. If they made a single book, it would have to be gigantic.
I think the fortunate thing about it all is that FW has commmiteed to upping their produciton pace of the HH stuff, with their goal to release two books a year. Should mean only another year more until nearly all the Legions are represented in a FW book.
No, not missing it... just lamenting it from the folks that split Vraks into 3 books.
cincydooley wrote:I'll assume you've read through the FWHH books, right? (not trying to be a douche here; honestly just asking) I mean, there's a LOOOOOOTTT of stuff in each one of those, both gameplay and story wise. I'm just not exactly sure where they'd "trim the fat," as it were, in those books. If they made a single book, it would have to be gigantic.
I think the fortunate thing about it all is that FW has commmiteed to upping their produciton pace of the HH stuff, with their goal to release two books a year. Should mean only another year more until nearly all the Legions are represented in a FW book.
I'm not sure how every legion can be done at that pace in another year with the previous rumors of 3 Istvaan books and 3 more Ultima Segmentum books... with talk now of a Mars specific book (source?) somewhere in between... and that's not even touching the Battle for Terra and the legions that will be covered there. I do hope they shed some light on this at either their open day or the subsequent HH weekender.
I'm not sure how every legion can be done at that pace in another year with the previous rumors of 3 Istvaan books and 3 more Ultima Segmentum books... with talk now of a Mars specific book (source?) somewhere in between... and that's not even touching the Battle for Terra and the legions that will be covered there. I do hope they shed some light on this at either their open day or the subsequent HH weekender.
Oh, I don't think they'll be "done" but having them all represented within that time frame is pretty reasonable.
I mean, personally, I want as many books as they're willing to do.
Obviously we're getting Prospero and that'll include Wolves, Sons, and Sisters of Silence at a minimum
I'd be fine with an entire book on Calth; they could introduce some really cool scenarios like underground warfare and zero-g boarding actions.
Obviously you COULD do a whole Signus book that really introduced the BA and Demons, and you could potentially add the "space wolves watch pack" in the book as well and make them a 0-1 limit for all loyal armies.
For me, the biggest issue is figuring out when to insert the Scars and Dark Angels.
For me, the biggest issue is figuring out when to insert the Scars and Dark Angels.
Scars (and Custodes) would be battle on Terra (of which they had a significant part) and Dark Angels would be the Epilogue story of the battle between Luther and the Lion, I guess.
For me, the biggest issue is figuring out when to insert the Scars and Dark Angels.
Scars (and Custodes) would be battle on Terra (of which they had a significant part) and Dark Angels would be the Epilogue story of the battle between Luther and the Lion, I guess.
Thats all I can think, too. It just seems so LATE to get them into the game....
They could have gotten away with introducting the custodes in a Isstvan Book 3, or perhaps at Prospero, as like, a 0-1 option for loyalist armies.
For me, the biggest issue is figuring out when to insert the Scars and Dark Angels.
Scars (and Custodes) would be battle on Terra (of which they had a significant part) and Dark Angels would be the Epilogue story of the battle between Luther and the Lion, I guess.
Thats all I can think, too. It just seems so LATE to get them into the game....
They could have gotten away with introducting the custodes in a Isstvan Book 3, or perhaps at Prospero, as like, a 0-1 option for loyalist armies.
Thing is, I guess if they have Scars and Custodes before Battle of Terra, then what's left for Battle of Terra?
....come to think about it, I wonder if they'll have the balls to make the Emperor an HQ choice for a Custodes army in the Battle of Terra book. How else are you gonna play out a battle on Horus' ship?
Dark Angels could be brought in with the Night Lords for the campaign out on the edge of the stars. Which would tie in decently with the Ultramar/Word Bearer stuff.
He actually looks like a noble son of the emperor there instead of a piece of Gak. Wel Done Forgeorld, now go work your magic on that IG truck that is half looted.
I think having had time to process the image more, while he is everything one could ask for from a Horus sculpt, I find him a bit vanilla. I would like to own a Horus model, but I think I'll wait until he gets his Battle Of Terra/Final Confrontation Chaosified incarnation.
See now we clearly see the difference between GW and FW.
Forgeworld does agood job of placement with all the bling. Horus is covered in the eye of Horus, but not terribly. If GW proper made Horus he would have horus eye nipples and horus eye bits down below too
I really want to see how they chaosify him up later, and if he will stay very similar or not.
azreal13 wrote: I think having had time to process the image more, while he is everything one could ask for from a Horus sculpt, I find him a bit vanilla. I would like to own a Horus model, but I think I'll wait until he gets his Battle Of Terra/Final Confrontation Chaosified incarnation.
I think you're right. While he's definitely solid, and there aren't even any points to call out as not good, he's not really striking in any way. This is particularly bad for THE villain of this EPIC story. The Emperor and Horus (and to a lesser extent, say Sanguinius, etc.) should really deliver a larger-than-life sculpt/fig. Depending on the price, I might get one and slightly alter/jazz it up.
Damn, they've hit Horus out of the park. That is genuinely a 10/10 model, the perfect blend of gravity, presence, subtly and menace. Blows even the other awesome primarch models away.
I believe the intention was to do two version of the Traitor primarchs. It makes a certain amount of sense, especially given the popularity of "Pre-Heresy" armies; kind of hard to do Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus, Emperor's Children and the like when they're lead by an avatar of the dark gods and a purple snake-monster if the intention is to do them before all that happened.
I quite like the Horus sculpt, he looks extremely noble, and air of confidence and power, but controlled, refined, mature. Matches how I would picture him prior to everything going sideways (which is why I hope they finalize the Fulgrim sculpt which appeared some time ago of him holding the standard of his legion, rather than fighting Manus.)
The idea with these "character series" models seems to be to try and capture the essence of the character at a specific moment in time, some iconic action or phase. Some are better than others (Abaddon and Loken remain, probably, my favourite), but I wouldn't consider any of them a failure or missed mark yet.
Theophony wrote: See now we clearly see the difference between GW and FW.
Forgeworld does agood job of placement with all the bling. Horus is covered in the eye of Horus, but not terribly. If GW proper made Horus he would have horus eye nipples and horus eye bits down below too
I really want to see how they chaosify him up later, and if he will stay very similar or not.
That's because FW is staffed by hobbyists. GW is staffed by businessmen
cincydooley wrote: That same mammoth tank is referred to in one of the newer HH books as well. I'm trying to find which it is.
It's in fear to tread, where they are blazing to the bone castle to kill Kyriss and Ka'Bandha. Hope that helps
OT: That Horus model captures him brilliantly, the air of arrogance and superioty that surrounds him, all captured in that bald head of his! I Think this is before the battle of Istvaan, when he was a loyal son of the Emp.
warboss wrote: Horus looks very nice. He'll make a great Wolf Guard in TDA to lead my truescale space squad once I obliterate a few eyeballs.
I'd be careful before you blow £55+ on him for that purpose, the pics for the Primarchs are deceptive, they're absolutely huge - Ferrus still has a solid 1-1.5cm over my newest truscale marines, and I made those in 32mm scale(ie the marines are 40-42mm fully-upright). Hell just the head of his mace looks to be around the size of a Terminator's whole torso.
Truly lovely model though, I suspect we're going to see a lot of dioramas of that famous painting of the Emperor discovering Horus over Sanguinius' body at Golden Daemon over the next few years.
cincydooley wrote: That same mammoth tank is referred to in one of the newer HH books as well. I'm trying to find which it is.
It's in fear to tread, where they are blazing to the bone castle to kill Kyriss and Ka'Bandha. Hope that helps
OT: That Horus model captures him brilliantly, the air of arrogance and superioty that surrounds him, all captured in that bald head of his! I Think this is before the battle of Istvaan, when he was a loyal son of the Emp.
warboss wrote: Horus looks very nice. He'll make a great Wolf Guard in TDA to lead my truescale space squad once I obliterate a few eyeballs.
I'd be careful before you blow £55+ on him for that purpose, the pics for the Primarchs are deceptive, they're absolutely huge - Ferrus still has a solid 1-1.5cm over my newest truscale marines, and I made those in 32mm scale(ie the marines are 40-42mm fully-upright). Hell just the head of his mace looks to be around the size of a Terminator's whole torso.
Truly lovely model though, I suspect we're going to see a lot of dioramas of that famous painting of the Emperor discovering Horus over Sanguinius' body at Golden Daemon over the next few years.
Feel free to PM me a link to any pics of that and I do appreciate the heads up warning. I'm actually hoping to add him as the Iron Hands techmarine in my Deathwatch truescale marine squad as well (unchanged except for maybe removing the rock under his foot that inflates his size). I suspect and hope that Horus is even bigger but I'm actually OK with that seeing as how I made the "regular" power armor marines out of mainly terminator bits and wouldn't mind an actual terminator in the squad to tower over them as in the old Blood Angel codex cover.
I'm glad to see that Horus actually looks fantastic, unlike Fulgrim or Lorgar. If I ever make a Luna Wolves army, no question, I'm buying him. I also like how they made him work perfectly pre-chaos taint, so he works just as well with the Luna Wolves as the Sons of Horus.
I tend to prefer the less dynamic character models. I don't necessarily want them standing stiffly at attention, but I do like when they're not the usual jumping, screaming, and pointing. That's one reason why I vastly prefer the alternative version of Fulgrim. Too bad FW won't release it.
Pacific wrote: Agree, that's one beautiful miniature. Glad they have gone for a more regal, intelligent look rather than 'horns, evil, raarrghh!' chaos-type leader.
Pacific wrote: Agree, that's one beautiful miniature. Glad they have gone for a more regal, intelligent look rather than 'horns, evil, raarrghh!' chaos-type leader.
Yeah, that one's coming though!
I don't think Horus goes in that direction he doesn't mutate in the old Horus V the big E drawing he looks almost the same as this just angry
I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
Of course, we'll all need to figure out a way to put ourselves into cryo-sleep so that we can wake up in late 2286 when that model gets released.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
Of course, we'll all need to figure out a way to put ourselves into cryo-sleep so that we can wake up in late 2286 when that model gets released.
probably be easier to go have dinner in a fairy mound, i'm sure if you proved an entertaining enough guest they'd let you walk out just in time for the models
H.B.M.C. wrote: On a side note, these £70 FW open day tickets. What do you get for £70?
Entry to a venue that is normally free to enter, the chance to buy limited edition models and novellas, the chance to chat to the authors and design guys. As far as I can tell that's it.
H.B.M.C. wrote: On a side note, these £70 FW open day tickets. What do you get for £70?
Entry to a venue that is normally free to enter, the chance to buy limited edition models and novellas, the chance to chat to the authors and design guys. As far as I can tell that's it.
The Weekender isn't at the HQ, it's at the Nottingham Belfry Hotel. You get a goody bag included in the ticket price, but not much else.
H.B.M.C. wrote: On a side note, these £70 FW open day tickets. What do you get for £70?
Entry to a venue that is normally free to enter, the chance to buy limited edition models and novellas, the chance to chat to the authors and design guys. As far as I can tell that's it.
The Weekender isn't at the HQ, it's at the Nottingham Belfry Hotel. You get a goody bag included in the ticket price, but not much else.
My bad
(I spend £000s on wargaming every year but seeing £70 for a ticket has always been too much for me to even bother reading the details - I do wonder how much space they get though, surely they'd be better charging £70 for entrance to WHW but letting you use that as store credit, in effect forcing customers to buy some of those high margin models instead of giving the money to a local hotel )
beast_gts wrote: The Weekender isn't at the HQ, it's at the Nottingham Belfry Hotel. You get a goody bag included in the ticket price, but not much else.
beast_gts wrote: The Weekender isn't at the HQ, it's at the Nottingham Belfry Hotel. You get a goody bag included in the ticket price, but not much else.
What's in the goody bag, generally speaking?
The official line is "a goody-bag upon entry, including a programme with exclusive gaming content, stories and Horus Heresy rules" which normally means some dice, a novella and rules for whatever they're pre-releasing.
Plus the bag:
H.B.M.C. wrote: On a side note, these £70 FW open day tickets. What do you get for £70?
Last year: lunch on both days, and a choice of seminars, tutorials, gaming (laid on boards), pre-release WIPs display (with designer/sculptor next to it to talk to), display models, big display boards, evening entertainment, authors/artists to bother, loads of like minded people to geek out with. Goody bag with a few bits and bobs (dice, rules, programme, and as mentioned the cheapish bag).
For me it was well worth it, and I just spent two days listening to the seminars like a big geeky git. So worth it I already have my ticket to this years.
SRSFACE wrote: For £70, that better be some fantastic luncheons.
Actually lunch was not much cop, but for £70 for 2 full days of entertainment and general geekery it was worth it for me. Compare it to a meal out with the Mrs. which can easily come to £50 with booze and desserts and it starts to become more sensible.
It may not be worth £70 / $116.15 to everybody, but well, you don't have to come.
(This does of course not include the £££ on fuel, accommodation, food, booze and lovely new toys, but screw rationalising it!)
- pre heresy look ... check
- handsome face as described in the books
- Wolf pelt ... check
- Luna Wolf iconography ... check
- total overall awesomeness ... check check check!!!
I am looking forward to see more pictures from other angles.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
I would to. To not do a diorama for E vs H would be a sin. Or, hyperbole aside, a missed opportunity!
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
Of course, we'll all need to figure out a way to put ourselves into cryo-sleep so that we can wake up in late 2286 when that model gets released.
probably be easier to go have dinner in a fairy mound, i'm sure if you proved an entertaining enough guest they'd let you walk out just in time for the models
That was awesome - Exalted!
As for Super Power Evil All 4 Chaos Gods Horus version, I have no doubt at all that he'll look different enough to warrant purchasing!
Do we know who sculpted Horus? That looks more like a Skomorowski sculpt than an Egan sculpt but those guys are so damn talented, it wouldn't surprise me either way.
cincydooley wrote: That same mammoth tank is referred to in one of the newer HH books as well. I'm trying to find which it is.
It's in fear to tread, where they are blazing to the bone castle to kill Kyriss and Ka'Bandha. Hope that helps
OT: That Horus model captures him brilliantly, the air of arrogance and superioty that surrounds him, all captured in that bald head of his! I Think this is before the battle of Istvaan, when he was a loyal son of the Emp.
Yes! You rock. I couldn't remember where it was!
No problem, finished re-reading it a week or two ago for the 5th time now haha
SRSFACE wrote: Do we know who sculpted Horus? That looks more like a Skomorowski sculpt than an Egan sculpt but those guys are so damn talented, it wouldn't surprise me either way.
Horus was definitely sculpted by Egan, we were told about it at " games" day uk. For all you begging for alternate fulgrim, almost definitely not gonna happen I'm afraid, Egan was not even allowed to carry it to GDUK with him, he did say however that apart from the pole on the banner it is just the existing fulgrim cut apart, repositioned and filled/ finished with green stuff. I myself am surprised that there is no skilled individual out there who has already done this (or for that matter anyone who has done this, worked out how to do it quickly and is bulk ordering the original and changing them then charging double on eBay.... *looks at fulgrim model and saw on desk wistfully*)
The Myrmidon Secutors are ordained priests of the Cult Mechanicum who embody the art of destruction at close quarters utilising the rightly feared Mechanicum weapons technology to further their ends. They keep no master long, instead they are drawn to battle as a vulture is drawn to carrion, seeking fresh challenges to defeat.
This complete resin set contains three Mechanicum Myrmidon Secutor models with two phased plasma fusils, two maxim bolters and two graviton guns respectively and all carry power axes. These are available to pre-order now and will be despatched from 31st March.
I've been sitting on the fence waiting for enough Mechanicum units to launch before I dived in and started my Dark Mechanicus army. No more waiting on my part now as I will be making a large order over the weekend as the new Myrmidons look rather nice indeed. This is helped by the currently disappointing IG and Chaos releases not offering me anything I actually want to buy outside of the new IG codexes.
I think If i got those myrmidons I would convert their weapons to be more underslung. Even shoulder-mounted would be better, they are far too... horizontal, they stick out too much, looks a bit awkward.
I could see these being a stand in for Ogryns in a Mechanicus themed guard army. They've got the dakka aspect covered in the maxim bolters and the choppy aspect is covered.
They make good proxy Centurions or Tau Commanders in an allied SM/Tau force.
Pre-order, not released until March 31st
Again, single weapon syndrome rears its ugly head. I suppose you just have to press-mold the weapons if you want three (seriously though, how hard is it to give us all the options...)
I'll be building a custom weapon arm with a pair of Legion Grav Guns, with bionic weapons on the other arm I can counts-as them as Devastator Centurions with grav-cannons, or use them as Secutors in 30K games. It is a bit disappointing they went with exactly the same bodies, I was hoping there'd be some variation even if it was just superficial details; ah well, conversion time then.
They make good proxy Centurions or Tau Commanders in an allied SM/Tau force.
Pre-order, not released until March 31st
Again, single weapon syndrome rears its ugly head. I suppose you just have to press-mold the weapons if you want three (seriously though, how hard is it to give us all the options...)
The paint job is pretty pants as well
I'm more a fan of the destructors as well.
Counts as would be nice, but my Tau allies run a Cadre Fireblade as their HQ. The 15mm Dreamforge Leviathan is about right to swap into being a riptide, just need the 15mm weapon options to show up. And something to use as a hammerhead tank. I wonder what the new Mechanicum tank that will be at HH Weekend will look like?
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
I would to. To not do a diorama for E vs H would be a sin. Or, hyperbole aside, a missed opportunity!
im sure im not the only one that would pay a kings ransom for such a diorama
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
I would to. To not do a diorama for E vs H would be a sin. Or, hyperbole aside, a missed opportunity!
im sure im not the only one that would pay a kings ransom for such a diorama
H.B.M.C. wrote: I presume that a more animated Horus will show up for the inevitable (and no-doubt monstrously priced) Big H vs Big E set that they'll put out when FF is done with the HH series.
I would to. To not do a diorama for E vs H would be a sin. Or, hyperbole aside, a missed opportunity!
im sure im not the only one that would pay a kings ransom for such a diorama
I find this quite funny really.
The only edge GW ever had of the forgeworld sculpts was price.
The gap now is so small (and non existent at times) that its almost worth buying pure FW models instead.
Better quality resin, better quality sculpts.
And that horus model is pretty damn good!
I like the way he actually has an imperial look about him still and looks like a noble.
FW really are on the right track at the moment though, they need to keep this up.
Also need sanguinius too, since i have my IH primarch but still need my BA one
beast_gts wrote:Slightly disappointed that they seem to be the same bodies as the Destructors.
You mean heads? The bodies are slightly different, Secutors have little hands to hold the axes while Destructors have mechadendrites.
Anyway, the GD preview last year had them with the same heads, so I'm not hugely surprised. Some head variation would have been nice, but they're integrated into the body....
Ketara wrote:I'm confused. Why is a mechanically augmented human way taller than an Astartes Terminator?
Why not? These are the guys who built Terminator armour, and it wasn't purpose built, it , was converted from industrial shielding armour. Yes, Terminator armour was originally designed for janitors... in SPAAACE
Myrmidons have dedicated their entire lives to being the best cyborg robot killers....
Alpharius wrote:NOTHING should be better than a Space Marine Terminator - except maybe a Primarch!!!
I don't see why Space Marines had a monopoly on the best heavy infantry... there was a reason the big E was reluctant to go to war with Mars...
They make good proxy Centurions or Tau Commanders in an allied SM/Tau force.
Pre-order, not released until March 31st
Again, single weapon syndrome rears its ugly head. I suppose you just have to press-mold the weapons if you want three (seriously though, how hard is it to give us all the options...)
The paint job is pretty pants as well
I'm more a fan of the destructors as well.
Counts as would be nice, but my Tau allies run a Cadre Fireblade as their HQ. The 15mm Dreamforge Leviathan is about right to swap into being a riptide, just need the 15mm weapon options to show up. And something to use as a hammerhead tank. I wonder what the new Mechanicum tank that will be at HH Weekend will look like?
Why would you run a Cadre Fireblade? Allied Tau Commander is way better Isn't the DFG leviathan a little too big, it's Knight sized.
I want it to be a Haruspex-ish fast giant walker with tons of mechadendrites everywhere.
sockwithaticket wrote:Well, if we learnt anything from the Thallax (and probably other kits in the past) don't splurge in one go, the weapon options will come later.
Six-months to a year later? I'll just cast/mod my own
Isn't the DFG leviathan a little too big, it's Knight sized.
They come in two Scales. 15mm which is about 4.75" once built, and 28mm which is about 8.5" once built.
I think the 15mm is still too small for a Riptide though. But if you are willing to forgive them being a bit short, they should have about the right bulk. The 25mm is a bit large for a knight, but would make an excellent Baron.
This weekend saw Forge World’s first show of the year and as East Midlands Sci-Fi and Fantasy Convention was in Nottingham and only a little way from the office, it would have been rude not to go!
Forge World at EM-CON.
The Forge World stand was busy all day. The guys running the stand had a lot of fun meeting everyone. I, of course, supported them from afar. Well, I wouldn't have wanted to get in the way!.
The crowds at EM-CON.
There are plenty more events Forge World is attending this year and more are being added all the time. Check out our Events page for details and keep your eye on this blog for news on what you’ll find at forthcoming events.
Imposing Titans and Space Marine Legions on display in the Citadel Miniatures Hall.
Speaking of awesome places to see our models up close and personal, there’s a fantastic collection of expertly painted Forge World models at the Citadel Miniatures Hall at Warhammer World. This includes some truly inspiring models such as the Hierophant Bio-Titan and the Greater Brass Scorpion of Khorne, which have recently been added to the displays along with the entire Horus Heresy Character Series.
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I'm curious, just how long does it take for a model to go from finished sculpt to a released product? It seems that FW keep teasing me with Salamanders (Way back in Blog #2), but every time I check FW, I see yet another AdMech unit (Although I understand the sheer paucity of AdMech from FW or GW require they get some units released to flesh out the range) or another unit from the previous HH book. I can't understand how the Iron Hands got a ton of new stuff alongside the Massacre book, the Nightlords and Word Bearers got a few units, (including characters and a Primarch), even the original 4 traitor legions from Betrayal got some new stuff as well - but the Salamanders have thus far been completely skipped over - not even a hint of characters or anything discounting the teaser of Blog #2. It's hardly as if they're gonna be released in another book, as after Isstvan V they were pretty much out for the rest of the HH. Bah, rant over.
I'd be very surprised to find out Salamanders were one of the least popular legions, I thought they were one of the most popular outside of the 'big' modern chapters with codices.
@gianlucafiorentini123 - I always thought the Iron Hands were meant to be one of the less popular of the Legions, but look how that turned out - they have no less than 17 dedicated products, including a Primarch, two unique units and a Contemptor Dreadnought. What have the Salamanders got - one Dreadnought and 7 small upgrade packs.
To be honest, I've always had a good reception with my own Salamanders. I'm not sure why they would be not as popular as they, IMHO, have some of the most engaging fluff of all the Legions: One of the smaller Legions, thrown into situations where last stands were an inevitability that only the most resilient of Legions could endure. Re-united with a Primarch distinguished by his humble upbringing, developing into a Legion where humanity and stoic tenacity were key concepts, taking part in the battle of Isstvan V - arguably the most important battle in the history of the Imperium aside from the Siege of Terra - and finally devolving into a Chapter who, when everybody else is out for glory, truly fight for the real Imperium of Man - the people themselves. They literally are the closest thing to real Knights - in terms of morals, honour and actions - the 41st Millenium has. And to boot, as a former Legion and with an aptitude for craftsmanship, they give modellers/players the scope to use just about any Astartes wargear that has existed from the Great Crusade to the 41st Millenium. Oh, and did I mention their Primarch is still alive and has left them a galactic-spanning quest to find his 9 Lost Relics of unparalleled awesomeness?
Personally, I can't see how they could fail to be popular. Presumably people just don't like painting green or flames...
@reds8n - I'm intrigued as to where that mini came from - I can't find it on FW?
EDIT: Oh wait, just noticed the Iron Hands icons of the mini reds8n has shown us. That brings the Iron Hands up to 18 dedicated products!
Warpig1815 wrote: @gianlucafiorentini123 - I always thought the Iron Hands were meant to be one of the less popular of the Legions, but look how that turned out - they have no less than 17 dedicated products, including a Primarch, two unique units and a Contemptor Dreadnought. What have the Salamanders got - one Dreadnought and 7 small upgrade packs.
And inclusion in the mainline SM codex for several editions with multiple GW produced special characters... I frankly doubt your math on the products as it seems very strongly biased in favor of your argument. Neither legion was focused on but the Salamanders IMO have gotten more love over the years by far when you include both GW and FW. I don't know about you but the former is much more accepted and frankly important to most gamers.
@gianlucafiorentini123 - I do apologise if that came across as a rant at you - it sincerely wasn't. I just get a touch confused at the lack of consistency in FW's releases. You'd think FW would release 3 HH/Space Marine releases a month (As that seems to be the major focus currently), and one Fantasy/40K unit. That way everybody is satisfied to some extent. Of the HH stuff, you'd think they'd give each Legion a special Unit each and once all the currently released Legions have at least one unit, they'd go back and focus on the 'more popular' (though I still disagree there) Legions. However, we just see a seemingly haphazard series of releases that bear no relevance to their 'teasers' or indeed the format of their books. I think I need to stop now, because (despite apperances ) this is hardly a major rage for me - I have other hobbies aside from P&M-ing 40k (Albeit, this is my largest hobby), but it's the source of my continual confusion at the complete lack of pattern in FW's releases.
Edit: @warboss - Hence my confusion - The Salamanders do get more love by GW, so I still can't get my head around how they are supposedly 'less popular' than Iron Hands. As for my maths - take a look at the the Salamanders and Iron Hands categories on FW - granted I may have mis-included the Iron Hands bundle into the bargin, but the Iron Hands do have far more. In comparison Salamanders get nowt.
Joyboozer wrote: So they've gone from sneak peaks in the blogs to typical GW style content?
FW open day, their biggest preview event of the year, is at the end of the month. I'd expect the blog to get more previews next month, once they don't have to save stuff for the big event.
I would have said white scars are probably one of the least popular mainly because of the white colour scheme. Salamanders, along with white scars, are two of my favourites and I intend on getting a modest force. Lucky they are battle brothers on the allies chart.
@reds8n - I'm intrigued as to where that mini came from - I can't find it on FW?
EDIT: Oh wait, just noticed the Iron Hands icons of the mini reds8n has shown us. That brings the Iron Hands up to 18 dedicated products!
It's not a "dedicated product". It's an Event model.
They've started doing a 40k Event model, a Fantasy Event model, and a Horus Heresy Event model.
Where's that info coming from? I'll be super-pissed if it's true, FW never bothers to show up at events north of the border to my knowledge and forking over ebay prices for several of these isn't an option.
Warpig1815 wrote: @gianlucafiorentini123 - I do apologise if that came across as a rant at you - it sincerely wasn't. I just get a touch confused at the lack of consistency in FW's releases. You'd think FW would release 3 HH/Space Marine releases a month (As that seems to be the major focus currently), and one Fantasy/40K unit. That way everybody is satisfied to some extent. Of the HH stuff, you'd think they'd give each Legion a special Unit each and once all the currently released Legions have at least one unit, they'd go back and focus on the 'more popular' (though I still disagree there) Legions. However, we just see a seemingly haphazard series of releases that bear no relevance to their 'teasers' or indeed the format of their books. I think I need to stop now, because (despite apperances ) this is hardly a major rage for me - I have other hobbies aside from P&M-ing 40k (Albeit, this is my largest hobby), but it's the source of my continual confusion at the complete lack of pattern in FW's releases.
I don't think that FW actually have much of a plan (obviously they have some); they generally seem to work on a "wouldn't it be awesome if we made X?!" basis. This is also what makes them cooler and far more popular than their accountant-oppressed cousins over in GW.
I should maybe clarify, as my previous comments may come over as a bit (Ok, a great deal) petulant or snarky (Really I was just confused more than irritated or angry!), but I don't oppose FW or their products at all - to be honest, I've liked the majority of their releases so far - even the Iron Hands stuff, despite my apparent rage. I guess their loose attitude to releases is much better than GW, and certainly their products are, so tbh I don't really know what made me rail against it - I guess I'm just being way too impatient to see Salamanders stuff. Sorry guys, I'll go back to my cage now...
Warpig1815 wrote: To be honest, I've always had a good reception with my own Salamanders. I'm not sure why they would be not as popular as they, IMHO, have some of the most engaging fluff of all the Legions: One of the smaller Legions, thrown into situations where last stands were an inevitability that only the most resilient of Legions could endure. Re-united with a Primarch distinguished by his humble upbringing, developing into a Legion where humanity and stoic tenacity were key concepts, taking part in the battle of Isstvan V - arguably the most important battle in the history of the Imperium aside from the Siege of Terra - and finally devolving into a Chapter who, when everybody else is out for glory, truly fight for the real Imperium of Man - the people themselves. They literally are the closest thing to real Knights - in terms of morals, honour and actions - the 41st Millenium has. And to boot, as a former Legion and with an aptitude for craftsmanship, they give modellers/players the scope to use just about any Astartes wargear that has existed from the Great Crusade to the 41st Millenium. Oh, and did I mention their Primarch is still alive and has left them a galactic-spanning quest to find his 9 Lost Relics of unparalleled awesomeness?
Personally, I can't see how they could fail to be popular. Presumably people just don't like painting green or flames...
I hate Space Marines, and even I love Salamanders for pretty much all of these reasons. I don't have plans to ever start Marines, but if for some reason I did I would only be painting green and flames. And I'd paint mine like black guys, not drow.
I always wanted to see a "Salamanders Chapter Upgrade Kit" not unlike the BT or DA kits, with lots of extra shoulder pads and other bits and bobs specifically for Salamanders. Would love to see flamers and meltas with dragon motifs and maws and stuff on them.
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Medium of Death wrote: Does anybody have the link of the Night Lord heads ten pack? They're amazing and they look like they'll be good for regular Chaos Marines.
There are no special heads for Night Lords yet. Did you mean Death Guard?
Medium of Death wrote: Does anybody have the link of the Night Lord heads ten pack? They're amazing and they look like they'll be good for regular Chaos Marines.
There are no special heads for Night Lords yet. Did you mean Death Guard?
Bottom center one puzzles me. Is it the remnants of a victim that got scalped with a chainsword? Or is the open space a spot to put a mirror so the enemy sees their face their? What's the purpose of the hole?
Theophony wrote: Bottom center one puzzles me. Is it the remnants of a victim that got scalped with a chainsword? Or is the open space a spot to put a mirror so the enemy sees their face their? What's the purpose of the hole?
Theophony wrote: Bottom center one puzzles me. Is it the remnants of a victim that got scalped with a chainsword? Or is the open space a spot to put a mirror so the enemy sees their face their? What's the purpose of the hole?
The heads look pretty good, but I don't play Night Lords so my opinion may not count for much.
Regarding the unpopularity of Salamanders, I can believe it. While I love their fluff, I do not like their design aesthetic: reptile skins and skulls as armor bling.
But, I've already chosen my Legion, and it is loyalist Emperor's Children.
Oh I really do hope that cool effect they used in the video is an implication the Alpha Legion will be getting a unit with some kind of stealth armour.
Yodhrin wrote: Oh I really do hope that cool effect they used in the video is an implication the Alpha Legion will be getting a unit with some kind of stealth armour.
That's all in accordance with the fluff! Bring on the Effrit stelath squad!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Imperial Fists? Were the Imperial Fists present for this conflict?
Yay Imperial Fists! Glad they're coming to the partly, even if their contribution to the Horus Heresy is usually "Damn we got lost in the warp"..Or "Damn we were late".. or "Damn our teleporter malfunctioned" or "Rawr lets kill ourselves at The Cage for no reason"
Theophony wrote: Bottom center one puzzles me. Is it the remnants of a victim that got scalped with a chainsword? Or is the open space a spot to put a mirror so the enemy sees their face their? What's the purpose of the hole?
Feels like a decal is supposed to go there?
Also, I'm sensing there will be some awesome conversions of First Claw from ADB's Night Lords books...
He's amazing looking, cant wait to get him.
