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2012/02/23 12:36:06
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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had a look in it and i dare say it is super!!!
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2012/02/23 14:41:11
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't let the airbrush scare you, that is the most important thing to remember. I can teach you everything I know, except practice. Find your correct mix of pressure and paint thinness and practice, practice, practice. I see you have some Vallejo Air paint there, that is also what I use, it takes the guesswork out of thinning the paint, with my small detail needle in my airbrush, I run it between 15-20 PSI, you'll want to adjust that pressure up based on your needle/nozzle size, and whether or not your airbrush is bottom or top feed (bottom feed needs more pressure to suck the paint up from the bottle, top feed holds less paint, but uses gravity and is therefore more efficient).
Painting the white mortar lines should not be a problem with the airbrush, but you'll probably still need to clean up overspray with a brush. That's really ok, it's still faster than brushing alone.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and carving brick lines in foam is surprisingly the easiest thing any terrain maker can do. It only takes a ruler and a ball-point pen to make all your lines perfect. There should definitely be a major tutorial or article about this simple technique. Automatically Appended Next Post: jabbakahut wrote:Ha, yeah, 1' would be one foot, 12" would be twelve inches. Eventually the US is suppose to phase out the imperial measurements...
That will just never happen....
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It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
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2012/02/23 14:56:11
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
jabbakahut wrote:
Ha, yeah, 1' would be one foot, 12" would be twelve inches. Eventually the US is suppose to phase out the imperial measurements...
That will just never happen....
This must happen!! Or I get mad
Thanks for helping me with the airbrush dstein, I've got a lot of problem with it...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, and carving brick lines in foam is surprisingly the easiest thing any terrain maker can do. It only takes a ruler and a ball-point pen to make all your lines perfect. There should definitely be a major tutorial or article about this simple technique.
Sometimes the easyest way it's the best too Now to finish up the tutorial I need to use your suggestions and advices with airbrush...really many thanks...
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Ok guys, last details added and if anyone doesn't have suggestion, advices or think that something needs tob e changed, tomorrow I start painting this building so...?
I test the light too
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2012/02/27 15:58:24
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
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2012/02/27 16:27:59
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Zebra88 wrote:Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
Dude that SUCKS
Definitely pick up an airbrush to run "normal" paint through. It will make priming a cinch. alternatively hand prime first with craft acrylic (or liquitex type cheap art acrylic) PVA coats generally don't seal particularly well as corners and sharp angles will hide any "bubbles" where the sealing coat left a small gap.
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2012/02/27 16:29:07
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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So sad to hear Hope to see a new project soon....
You will need to test your protective mix on some off cuts first in future.
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2012/02/27 17:15:31
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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No where near a waste of time, my friend.
Thomas Edison wrote: I have not failed. I have just found a thousand ways that won't work.....
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You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
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2012/02/27 17:37:29
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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The building looks pretty damn awesome even at WIP
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2012/02/27 18:03:05
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sorry to hear of the troubles, Zebra. Hopefully this won't derail your motivation too much.
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2012/02/27 18:27:23
Subject: Re:Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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2012/02/27 18:48:33
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Some awesome stuff. Sorry to hear about the troubles. Should try to keep it up man .
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2012/02/27 19:58:47
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i can just imagine how P....off you must feel... went through that a coupla times too... it is all a learning process... the thing you should learn all the more is to not letting it get you down... you are a true formidable builder... and your talent should not get wasted due to a mishappen incident... when falling off a horse get back into the saddle asap!!! really your talent that worked so hard must see you through! what i think happened is that your protective coat was not fully coating the object... thus a bit of the foameating stuff got through and ruined your hard work...
i think max got it right to the best point... airbrush will be your friend here...that is where youir next path should be...
and to make a fine point here... it was a lot of fun and pleasure to see you make such miracles out of foam...! never would i associate all this input i gathered here as a waste of time! not in my evilist dreams!
mate i hpoe you are not kicking the can here!
cheers, vik
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2012/02/27 21:23:20
Subject: Re:Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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2012/02/27 21:42:58
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Battleship Captain
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Zebra88 wrote:Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
Don't you dare give up!!!
You NEED to continue with this.
I know it totally makes you want to just stomp on the buildings, but dont. Just think how much it made you learn, and how much better your next building will be!
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2012/02/27 21:52:21
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Capitansolstice wrote:Zebra88 wrote:Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
Don't you dare give up!!!
You NEED to continue with this.
I know it totally makes you want to just stomp on the buildings, but dont. Just think how much it made you learn, and how much better your next building will be!
Stomp dude he is in a frustrated state don't give him ideas he will regret later
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2012/02/27 22:01:31
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Battleship Captain
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lone dirty dog wrote:Capitansolstice wrote:Zebra88 wrote:Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
Don't you dare give up!!!
You NEED to continue with this.
I know it totally makes you want to just stomp on the buildings, but dont. Just think how much it made you learn, and how much better your next building will be!
Stomp dude he is in a frustrated state don't give him ideas he will regret later
Oops!
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2012/02/27 22:07:19
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Ok wait a second....seven hundred views in less than 6 hours!?!?!? Wow....thank you guys, I really appreciate...
Sorry Capitansolstice, but I had your idea before you I didn't stomp it, because I thought an Heavy mallet have much more class
Anyway, don't worry, I won't give up...I promise...
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2012/02/27 22:08:26
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Battleship Captain
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Zebra88 wrote:Ok wait a second....seven hundred views in less than 6 hours!?!?!? Wow....thank you guys, I really appreciate...
Sorry Capitansolstice, but I had your idea before you I didn't stomp it, because I thought an Heavy mallet have much more class
Anyway, don't worry, I won't give up...I promise...
Hahaha, did you only stomp one building?
Because the others haven't been ruined yet
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2012/02/27 22:13:01
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Anyway, don't worry, I won't give up...I promise...
phewwww....
and we now have your written word of that!^^
hope you are feeling better now!
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2012/02/27 22:14:34
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Battleship Captain
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Viktor von Domm wrote:Anyway, don't worry, I won't give up...I promise...
phewwww....
and we now have your written word of that!^^
hope you are feeling better now!
same
Actually, I saved those words in a word document so that its PERMANENT!!!!!
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2012/02/27 22:23:09
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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ROFL... yeah... maybe it is needed... but how can you drag someone to a desk and make him do cool hobywork...that would in essence ruin the deeper meaning of hobbywork... i mean...being pssessed by it...that works every day... but beeing pressganged... now there i see a deep problem...
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2012/02/27 23:02:52
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Condolences... That really sucks. Clearly we support you, no need to apologize to viewers. Weird, I've used PVA/water without problems before. Most recently I've taken to using stuff like GW's rough coat first.
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2012/02/28 02:40:33
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Get the hotwire foam coating I told you about. And don't give up brother! You're too damn talented to stop now!
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2012/02/28 08:43:07
Subject: Re:Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Sitting on the roof of my house with a shotgun, and a six pack of beers
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Please don't give up your stuff is inspirational and if you give up i'll cry
Seriously all great works have their set backs, if it was easy it would be as cool
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2012/02/28 14:38:00
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Very sad to hear about tour troubles friend. Before you toss the whole project in the bin, I'd second the air brush idea. If you can afford it, it would fix your painting issues and open up a lot of other painting options as well.
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2012/02/29 00:58:42
Subject: Re:Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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SpankHammer III wrote:Please don't give up your stuff is inspirational and if you give up i'll cry
Seriously all great works have their set backs, if it was easy it would be as cool
quoted for the truth.. but i understand that when you lose motivation.. the project wont happen. for example, i spent a couple 100$ on an empire army, painted 1 guy, lost motivation and havent touched it since last night!.. but again sorry about that, as this was one of the greatest buildings ever (which means now the next one will be better!)
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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2012/02/29 02:38:35
Subject: Re:Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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Rogue Wolves wrote:SpankHammer III wrote:Please don't give up your stuff is inspirational and if you give up i'll cry
Seriously all great works have their set backs, if it was easy it would be as cool
quoted for the truth.. but i understand that when you lose motivation.. the project wont happen. for example, i spent a couple 100$ on an empire army, painted 1 guy, lost motivation and havent touched it since last night!.. but again sorry about that, as this was one of the greatest buildings ever (which means now the next one will be better!)
Dude the Empire kits are great for spare gubbins... But Mk2 building will look even better.
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Find me on Twitter Sam Butler @Rivet_Zone
Winner "Best 40k Table" Daboyz GT 2010,2011
"Sic Vis Pachem Parabellum" - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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2012/02/29 04:31:29
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
California + Philidelphia
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i started empire souly for the bits for use on IG/=][=!
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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
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2012/02/29 05:42:27
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Calm Celestian
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This thread has blown my mind!
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"Suffering is Faith, Faith is Strength.
Generations have suffered with the same devotion that we can offer but once. Still, our Faith leads us through these dark times like a beacon. It will guide us to triumph over these abominations. Either by breaking them upon us like waves against a limitless, golden peak or by thrusting through them like the spear of the Immortal Emperor Himself." - Cannoness Aoife, Order of the desert rose #Yesallwomen
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2012/02/29 18:15:06
Subject: Modular Table top Terrain - Urban - City Ruin
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Zebra88 wrote:Hi all...
Yesterday I've tried to paint up the building, but I made a disaster while giving the primer...the protective mix coat (PVA & paint) doesn't work, and the spry primer melt down most of the foam brick walls and interior walls. I' try to paint anyway, and even if the foam shouldn't melt down, the colours, the bricks and the stone pillars not appears as I dreamed. A lot of time lost, and when i start thinking about this, a lot of other mistakes came out, This force me to give up on THIS project, and let this thread die in time.
I need some time to think, because I still want to make a modular tarrain, but right now I'm not in the right mood.
I'm sorry I wasted your time guys, maybe in future I will open a new thread with a new project...
Anyway, I want to thank you for all the advice and compliments that you have done. I hope to return soon.
Zebr@88
Please, right now, go to http://www.shop.brickintheyard.com/Prime-It-8oz-PrimeIt98oz.htm?categoryId=-1 and purchase this great prime that you can spray eaisly from your airbrush. I hate to see when people ruin such beautiful creations. Please get this if you intend on painting any more foam. I am not affiliated in any way, I just LOVE this stuff.
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