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The funny thing with Kyrinov is that he was removed quite awhile ago and I emailed GW about him and the superior missing(US site) The response was that they didnt know why Kyrinov was gone and why I couldnt see him on the site, explanation was a bug in my browser was messing up). While not saying anything about the superior. Few days pass and Kyrinov was back on the site. at the bottom of the HQ list. Fast foreward to 5 days ago and he was moved to the 3rd slot in the HQ list, Then he just disappeared again.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Apologies if this has been noted elsewhere, but I see that Kyrinov is gone from the webstore...

Yup, he's been taken off the US site completely now. No "4 weeks to despatch", no page, just gone.

I wonder if this is something that broke or a sign of Finecast Kyrinov in our future.

I somehow doubt it. Kyrinov and the Seraphim Superiors went missing a while before the big rumours started swirling. Before the dev comments ar Enter the Citadel, I mean. I could be wrong, though.

Actually he was on a 4 week despatch last week, and is now missing completely from the US site. Not quite the same thing.

 conker249 wrote:
The funny thing with Kyrinov is that he was removed quite awhile ago and I emailed GW about him and the superior missing(US site) The response was that they didnt know why Kyrinov was gone and why I couldnt see him on the site, explanation was a bug in my browser was messing up). While not saying anything about the superior. Few days pass and Kyrinov was back on the site. at the bottom of the HQ list. Fast foreward to 5 days ago and he was moved to the 3rd slot in the HQ list, Then he just disappeared again.

So it might just be a screw up in the server end. Good to know.

I think Kyrinov vanished fully from the UK site, though. Never came back. But he and some of the Seraphim Superiors still hung around the sites of other countries.

At the time, we speculated that other countries may have had different levels of stock. Though it's odd that they all ran out (or nearly did) of the same models at the same time.

If they're switching to finecast, it's perfectly possible that they've ran out of metal ones and aren't making new ones any more.

Found my response from GW to the Kyrinov missing June 21st

Thanks for writing in to us, although I'm not sure why Kyrinov isn't appearing on your web browser. If you search for him on the website, it shows that he is available to add to cart. Looks like he is in stock with our warehouse as well.
Sorry for the confusion, but I hope this helps.
David Monroe
Games Workshop

Search Bar Kyrinov now and nothing pulls up.

The minis are disappearing and reappearing every couple months. Let's not get into any speculations again just because of that.

If they've changed Sisters of Battle to Adepta Sororitas
and thus messed around with all their web pages

then it could well be that nobody's put the new links on Kyrinov's page (especially as the old links to the page on the web now bounce to the GW homepage rather than a page not found)

Wishful thinking but I wish they'd update BA point costs with the BA digital release.

 Crimson wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It's good not to make the SoB subordinate to the Inquisition, but at the same time making them only part of the Grey Knights is rather stupid. I think Inquisition units should be able to be attached to any Imperial army

Yep, I completely agree.

They can. Allies.

Count together all the finecast miniature releases of the last two releases, Space Marines and Dark Elves, double that and you get an idea of how many new finecast miniatures you will get in future army releases: ZERO.
So if you are hyped because GW made minor point adjustments to faith points, buy your metal and finecast models soon. They will probably be much cheaper than the plastic miniatures you will get in 2-3 years.

BTW here the ironic comment by GW Fulchester:

GW Fulchester wrote:Presenting, a tiny bit of a Sister of Battle. If you're very good, we may even show you a flash of ankle.

GW Digital Facebook wrote:We’ve been inundated with requests asking for a little bit more info on the new Adepta Sororitas book coming later in the month.

We don’t normally do this, but we’ll make you a deal: if you can help us get 100 new likes by the end of the day (up to 1146), we’ll let you see the new codex cover in all it’s glory.

Here’s a little teaser of what you can expect.

- Eddie

 pretre wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It's good not to make the SoB subordinate to the Inquisition, but at the same time making them only part of the Grey Knights is rather stupid. I think Inquisition units should be able to be attached to any Imperial army

Yep, I completely agree.

They can. Allies.

Annoyingly you can't take a generic Inquistor as a HQ unit :(

 pretre wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It's good not to make the SoB subordinate to the Inquisition, but at the same time making them only part of the Grey Knights is rather stupid. I think Inquisition units should be able to be attached to any Imperial army

Yep, I completely agree.

They can. Allies.

Not properly. You cannot take normal Inquisitor without Grey Knights as troops, only Coteaz (of Ordo Malleus!). So you cannot have Ordo Xenos or Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor without bringing along at least a squad of Ordo Malleus' super secret and rare daemon-killing marines. This is utterly idiotic (competing with Draigo's fluff and Inquisitors not having access to any force fields of the title of stupidest thing in the GK codex.)

Just had a thought(not sure if its been mentioned before here) but with the codex name change to adepta sororitas, does this mean that the allies matrix in the main rulebook is invalidated unless there is a new one or amendment in the new codex? I imagine it will be similar to how the black Templar's were dealt with in the new c:sm book....just a thought

 Kroothawk wrote:
Count together all the finecast miniature releases of the last two releases, Space Marines and Dark Elves, double that and you get an idea of how many new finecast miniatures you will get in future army releases: ZERO.
So if you are hyped because GW made minor point adjustments to faith points, buy your metal and finecast models soon. They will probably be much cheaper than the plastic miniatures you will get in 2-3 years.

Easy there. We're just speculating things a bit.

Also, care to explain how the patterns of REGULAR codexes affects us right now? We're not expecting a real update here, and what would GW have to really lose by moving them to Finecast for the time being (something that saves them money)?

 Lynata wrote:
The minis are disappearing and reappearing every couple months.

I've checked sporadically, and Kyrinov and the Seraphim Superiors never seemed to come back to the UK site. I did email them about it, but got what was really a non-answer.

But I'm not worried. Given recent events, I'm confident we'll see replacements at some point.

 scrunty wrote:
Just had a thought(not sure if its been mentioned before here) but with the codex name change to adepta sororitas, does this mean that the allies matrix in the main rulebook is invalidated unless there is a new one or amendment in the new codex? I imagine it will be similar to how the black Templar's were dealt with in the new c:sm book....just a thought

Nah. The Sisters weren't rolled into something else, or anything like that. They're still the Sisters, see, just bearing a different title. So we still use anything referring to "Sisters of Battle".

They might have an errata that says to change all previous references to "Sisters of Battle" to "Adepta Sororitas", though.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
and what would GW have to really lose by moving them to Finecast for the time being (something that saves them money)?

It'd be a bit pointless to go through the process of making finecast models if plastics are on the agenda. That's my view, anyway.

 Troike wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
and what would GW have to really lose by moving them to Finecast for the time being (something that saves them money)?

It'd be a bit pointless to go through the process of making finecast models if plastics are on the agenda. That's my view, anyway.

Hive Tyrant is a great example of a model going Finecast then getting a plastic kit a few months later. We're looking at a year or more, so it's not that pointless.

I find it cool GW is finally getting into the swing of things with Digital releases

I almost care less about the update to rules. If Sisters get new models that would be all I could hope for.

Also, IF the BA update is true....then that's gravy on top.

 Elindiel wrote:
I almost care less about the update to rules. If Sisters get new models that would be all I could hope for.

Also, IF the BA update is true....then that's gravy on top.

The only thing we have any word about BA wise is that they're getting a digital codex. No signs of an update of any kind.

 Crimson wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Harriticus wrote:
It's good not to make the SoB subordinate to the Inquisition, but at the same time making them only part of the Grey Knights is rather stupid. I think Inquisition units should be able to be attached to any Imperial army

Yep, I completely agree.

They can. Allies.

Not properly. You cannot take normal Inquisitor without Grey Knights as troops, only Coteaz (of Ordo Malleus!). So you cannot have Ordo Xenos or Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor without bringing along at least a squad of Ordo Malleus' super secret and rare daemon-killing marines. This is utterly idiotic (competing with Draigo's fluff and Inquisitors not having access to any force fields of the title of stupidest thing in the GK codex.)

Yes, it's silly. Over in this Proposed Rules thread, a bunch of us tried to house-rule a sub-list of the GK book to represent a "pure" Ordo Hereticus force that Sisters could ally with as Battle Brothers instead of just Allies of Convenience, but I don't think we ever got it quite right, especially since I don't own the GK book.

It was basically
HQ = OH inquisitor but no daemonhost in retinue because, damn, Sisters do NOT LIKE THAT.
Troops = war bands
Elites = assassins
Fast Attack = um, hmmm
Heavy Support = Land Raiders

So pretty limited. I'd love any advice on how to extricate all the non-Grey Knights bits from Codex:GK and turn them into a sub-list that was at least viable for Allied Detachments.

I've seen argument that a Confessor makes a decent stand-in for a Ordos Hereticus Inquisitor. Plus he gets an Invul save!

And it's not like the Battle Conclave isn't made up of models you get in the Grey Knights codex.

Or is "counts-as" forbidden where everyone plays?

I dont really understand why people want finecast sisters anyway. Some say conversion potential, and whilst that may be possible for afew of the mini's (seraphim, retributors) the standard sisters with bolter/flamer/melta are all 1 part, with the weapons attatched right across the body.

I for one dont want to see a mass of greenstuff boobies.. that could turn very bad....

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I've seen argument that a Confessor makes a decent stand-in for a Ordos Hereticus Inquisitor. Plus he gets an Invul save!

Certainly would. As well as a decent set of rules for Repentia "counts-as" Death Cult Assassins. Convert the mistress with a Storm Shield and you have a "counts-as" Crusader for a decent shot blocker. They get a dedicated transport of their own, and better rules for less points IMO.

 S'jet wrote:
I dont really understand why people want finecast sisters anyway. Some say conversion potential, and whilst that may be possible for afew of the mini's (seraphim, retributors) the standard sisters with bolter/flamer/melta are all 1 part, with the weapons attatched right across the body.

I for one dont want to see a mass of greenstuff boobies.. that could turn very bad....

Nobody said that they'd have to look the same as the metal ones. Finecast models could well be completely new, and multi-part too.

 Troike wrote:

Nobody said that they'd have to look the same as the metal ones. Finecast models could well be completely new, and multi-part too.

No, they really couldn't. If they design new models, those will be plastic. If there's finecast, it's the old metals converted to finecast.

And it actually matters for convertability a great deal. Not all sisters have their arms in front of them, so you can make arm swaps and repositions on those. And head swaps, that metal hair on current models is just a pain to carve through.

 Troike wrote:
Nobody said that they'd have to look the same as the metal ones. Finecast models could well be completely new, and multi-part too.

As said, look at the abundance of new Finecast miniatures in the last 2 releases, and you know what to expect.
I don't say that discontinuing all metal and resin miniatures is a sound and rational decision, but it is GW's decision.

And I agree with you, I made the point about the recent lack of finecast releases myself earlier in the thread.

But a lot of people ITT seem to be open to the idea of us getting finecast Sisters, so might as well discuss it.

No point in finecast sisters unless they completely re-do them, and in that case, might as well just go plastic...which they need to do anyway.

 MWHistorian wrote:
No point in finecast sisters unless they completely re-do them, and in that case, might as well just go plastic...which they need to do anyway.

10 Sister boxes, and things that don't suck to build is the point. And if you think Finecast = new than you're sadly mistaken.

I'd be ok with some finecast. In my experience with finecast the models are highly detailed and GW tends to do a good job with them. The only issue i've ever run into is a friend of mine's melted in the car on a hot day. Thats enough to scare the crap out of me, but I hear they fixed that problem.

Either way, I wasn't a fan of the Kyrinov figure anyway. it was always rather iffy in my opinion... ok, it was at least one of the weakest figures in the range. Finecast can't hurt him.

ps. likelyhood of new figures seems low. I'd be overjoyed to know i'm wrong about this though.


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