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Servitors and X-101 are also available

If you put in Cawl, Daedalosus and a Manipulus you can field 3x5 Phrons, 6 Dakkabots, 20 Priests and, I think even a smith, in 2k points.

I think all I'd need in that setup is 10 priests and 3 phrons...

But its a durable, shooty list with no tricks and mobility. I can see the phrons slog it out from deployment, advance slowly upon an objective and just sit there. Priests out of LOS as a countercharge unit, dakkabots in deployment and/or as melee AT with a smith in tow.
Heck, Smiths might even see use since you run out of models before you run out of points!

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The restrictions are on your ARMY. So that means we have no transports. It will be like playing early 8E AdMech.

Hard pass.
   
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well its definately a very, very static playstyle. Probably wont win any tournaments, but it has some use. If you go against an enemy shooting army, the innate awesome shooting and durability that dakkabots and kataphrons provide, added with a army wide -1D, is pretty tough. Mobility is not as required as with Maelstrom, so I dont think it's as big as a detriment as it was before.
If you manage to get onto the objectives it will be very, very hard to shift you off via shooting.

It's worth an attempt if you have the models and I'll definately try it out if I get the chance. But the list is very skewed by design and might just not be fun to play against at all...

Edit: Melee will have some problems too, but ultimately win out. Although neutering Thunder Hammers is a very nice boon...
NOPE. Only against ranged. Melee will blow over this list without much trouble.

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This would have been an amazing 8th edition army, but just ask the Tau how well an immobile gun line with no melee units fares in 9th edition.

Not only is this a poor army for 9th, it wouldn’t be any fun to play against. It probably wouldn’t be that much fun to play either. It’s at best interesting as a narrative scenario.
   
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If this is the kind of rules writing we can expect for our codex we're in for an extremely rough 9th ed >.<

Both the DG and DE codexes seem to be extremely well written so far though, so there's hope yet. Just gotta hope that intern they let write the last one isnt involved lol
   
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Octovol wrote:
If this is the kind of rules writing we can expect for our codex we're in for an extremely rough 9th ed >.<

Both the DG and DE codexes seem to be extremely well written so far though, so there's hope yet. Just gotta hope that intern they let write the last one isnt involved lol


I mean the DG army of renown is similarly limiting for an underwhelming upgrade on the units it lets you take. So it may just be that the book is bad.
   
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Well, we would have melee units (Fulgurites). Just no transports to get them into battle. So unless we're doing Lucius, seems we're out of luck.
   
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As expected we're the next book in line, with probably what is instantly in the top 3 cover art in the history of the game.

Skitarii Marshal is the name of our new HQ/Character, but as of yet not much info so far as rules go, beyond some vague promises of upgraded weaponry relative to other Imperial factions.
   
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As expected we're the next book in line, with probably what is instantly in the top 3 cover art in the history of the game.

Skitarii Marshal is the name of our new HQ/Character, but as of yet not much info so far as rules go, beyond some vague promises of upgraded weaponry relative to other Imperial factions.


I think we might be as close as April as the article mentions more news in April and so did the binary apparently so thats cool.

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There's also a new type of Techpriest literally on the cover.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
There's also a new type of Techpriest literally on the cover.


There is like 8 things that we dont recognise. 2 characters on the right. Lots of chonky priests, servitors? and priests with lances.
   
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Easier to count the number of things on that cover that do have models - there's 2. The new Skitarii Marshal, and you can make out an Archeopter silhouette or two in the sky. The rest are too off the wall to be easily pinpointed as specific models, yea it's a bunch of tech-priests but none of them have the generic loadout we see on tabletop. And I say GOOD. From the perspective of the quality of lore and artwork, this is exactly the sort of thing we need that we lacked for all of 7th and a good chunk of 8th thanks to an apparent mandate of, "No model, no rules, no artwork" where GW insisted all content produced in parallel to the models had to be wholly and exclusively in support of models that they currently sold. Completely and utterly creatively stagnant, artwork and lore sells the setting, the setting sells models, models sell rules.
   
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Very glad that marshal isnt a unique character, or atleast doesnt sound like one.

"Give us a skitarii hq!"
"OK, heres <insert name here>"
"...ok but give us one that can actually take a relic!'

Man i would have been salty if that turned out to be a named dude

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Has anyone seen online if someone has taken a magnifying glass and too much free time to assess the video and pictures to see if anything new can be pinpointed?

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The video had a blurred Ironstrider with chunky, Armiger-like legs in the background.
   
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Now we need some CSI level bullshittery....

The legs seem to be too far apart to be an ironstrider chassis.
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yeah that looks like an armiger to me but i cant make out the arms so i cant tell what weapons are on it.

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It does really look like a Helverin, but GW's official model is blue and they tend to reuse models for pictures. Plus it's odd because they don't usually mix factions when showing off one.

I'd say the proportions are right: the hips are slightly wider than the armpits, the silver blur in the middle is about where the big collar should be, and the yellow-ish blur under that should be the head. If the silver streak pointing down is its left arm, that'd be about the length of a Helverin barrel. Then the blur on the left would be its right arm pointed toward the camera. The thing blocking the light on the top is probably the pintle-mounted gun.

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They also have Armigers painted up in Raven colors, so it's not that beyond belief.
   
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Its not that unusual for knight stuff to be in the background of admech, since they are essentially the same army aesthetically

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Did everyone watching notice when they said phosphor and radium weapons are getting a damage increase similar to heavy bolters?

Radium carbines are already 2d on a wound of 6, so maybe phosphor are getting a similar rule? I'm v excited for new codex.

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did they include radium? that would be extremely weird to buff radium carbines to 2d.

They are a high volume weapon, innate 2d is kinda nutty.

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They said all the weapons are getting an upgrade, there were a few that they named but we should hope for/expect marine+ for our weapon profiles as they tend to be a bit more useful to balance out our relative squishiness when compared to marines.

Interesting the marshal's offhand is called a control rod would seem odd to 'control' skitarii though, you'd expect control to be on the less able-binded like all the cult units.

I was thinking about what they've done with the DE Codex and combat drugs for Wych cults seemed like a really nice canticle re-work. Just have certain elligible units be permanently upgraded in some way. Maybe allow TP to change their upgrade once a turn to keep that element of flexibility.

Some of them would be too strong though, like permanent cover all the time...unless canticles would then not be available for non-infantry or something, or non core.

Maybe control rod allows the marshall to apply canticles to non-core? I dunno i'm theory crafting lol
   
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Random guess for the Control Rod is that it's not for "controlling" Skitarii...but rather for Servitors and Robots.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Random guess for the Control Rod is that it's not for "controlling" Skitarii...but rather for Servitors and Robots.


or maybe its does control the skitarii, who are, after all, supposed to be constantly in comms with the tech priest for data-capture purposes. maybe the rod is just the tool that generates whatever aura bonus the Marshall grants to his troops.

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xerxeskingofking wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Random guess for the Control Rod is that it's not for "controlling" Skitarii...but rather for Servitors and Robots.


or maybe its does control the skitarii, who are, after all, supposed to be constantly in comms with the tech priest for data-capture purposes.

Ehhh...the gist of what is supposed to be happening is not that they are "constantly in comms" but rather that there is a constant data inload to the Tech-Priest. You can be transmitting data and not necessarily be actively communicating.
maybe the rod is just the tool that generates whatever aura bonus the Marshall grants to his troops.

Maybe. Personal speculation on my end is, as I said, that it might be tied more to Servitors(as in the 'standard' Servitors that require a Techpriest to override their Mindlocks) and the Robots.


The video teaser seemed to hint at a lazy Techpriest, and what better way to be lazy than letting someone else babysit?

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I honestly hope Kastellans either get BS/WS3+ or that they benefit from mindlock to get them to 3+ like regular servitors do. Maybe limit the size of a detachment as a balancing for them not needing quite as much of a crutch to be performant.

   
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I seem to recall in Graham McNeil's books the skitarii do get shunted and controlled by their commanders under extreme circumstances in order to rapidly increase their tactical control. Maybe they are doing something like that with the control rod?

Or maybe it's servitor related like Kanluwen said. I always thought we could do with more servitors on the roster, would be cool to see some other creations..

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Reading the goonhammer leaks, I feel like my faith in Metalica and house Raven is finally being rewarded. I doubt we're gonna be top tier, but theres a lot of love in there and it seems to heavily reward an aggressive, in your face playstyle that made the few bits of Metalica that worked before fun.

If only I wasnt about to leave for work for 6 months and not be able to play 40k whatsoever. Figures I finally get cool rules and I cant use them.

But yeah, red tide vanguard with Metalica could be really fun with the leaks Ive seen. Lots of debuff auras up close, movement buffing abilities, and the ability to tie Raven knights into our army, canticles and all, is really cool. Given how movement heavy 9th is Metalica may be worth actually considering now. My group is already laughing about how Im probably one of 5 people on the planet who played Metalica and Raven consistently for years before they were cool (with the exception of the order of companions Castellan of course)

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 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Reading the goonhammer leaks, I feel like my faith in Metalica and house Raven is finally being rewarded. I doubt we're gonna be top tier, but theres a lot of love in there and it seems to heavily reward an aggressive, in your face playstyle that made the few bits of Metalica that worked before fun.

If only I wasnt about to leave for work for 6 months and not be able to play 40k whatsoever. Figures I finally get cool rules and I cant use them.

But yeah, red tide vanguard with Metalica could be really fun with the leaks Ive seen. Lots of debuff auras up close, movement buffing abilities, and the ability to tie Raven knights into our army, canticles and all, is really cool. Given how movement heavy 9th is Metalica may be worth actually considering now. My group is already laughing about how Im probably one of 5 people on the planet who played Metalica and Raven consistently for years before they were cool (with the exception of the order of companions Castellan of course)


Not to mention the whole 28w knight that you can heal as if it's any old vehicles so in our case a potenjtial 8w per turn
   
 
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