Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
Why not order directly from Micro Arts, then?
I know they send out stuff without any problems, granted I'm in Poland so it was quicker to send tokens to me than to than to send tokens to the US, but I got my items 3 days after I ordered them.
Ordering from The Warstore gives you everything at a 20%-10% discount and under one overarching $5.50 shipping fee. It's delicious.
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
Why not order directly from Micro Arts, then?
I know they send out stuff without any problems, granted I'm in Poland so it was quicker to send tokens to me than to than to send tokens to the US, but I got my items 3 days after I ordered them.
I probably will, next time!
Absolutionis wrote: Ordering from The Warstore gives you everything at a 20%-10% discount and under one overarching $5.50 shipping fee. It's delicious.
Though there is that too...
All kidding aside, for the 'lighter' stuff like tokens and templates, I think I will go direct to MAS next time.
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
Why not order directly from Micro Arts, then?
I know they send out stuff without any problems, granted I'm in Poland so it was quicker to send tokens to me than to than to send tokens to the US, but I got my items 3 days after I ordered them.
Ordering from The Warstore gives you everything at a 20%-10% discount and under one overarching $5.50 shipping fee. It's delicious.
But at some point you're ready to pay more just to get your items in a reasonable amount of time
Likely Diomedes as well for Aleph. I believe he was supposed to be the last-minute change for a January Release, but then it ended up being Phoenix anyways.
Micky wrote: My local store has been having a lot of trouble ordering MAS token sets - a lot of the suppliers have them out of stock apparently.
This must be a problem with the cooperation between the LGS and MAS - as I mentioned previously, I just got my tokens I ordered around a week ago.
I've herd there were some complaints about the quality of the tokens, which made replacements necessary. Maybe that's the reason for the delay sending overseas - they want to make sure that there will be no overseas complaints, so they're not sending anything now.
Apparently after several print runs the printer reduced the quality of the print without consulting micro art studios. Micro art studios is aware of this and are taking action so watch this space.
Yu Jing: Bao Troops x 4
PanOceania: Crusader Brethren HMG Tohaa: Gao Rael spitfire
Nomads: Wildcat HRL and spitfire; later, Corregidor box with 3 Wildcat combi for 5-member link possibility
Aleph: Support Pack (Sophotect, 2 Yudbots, & 3 Netrods) *OR* Diomedes
Ariadna: Briscards x 4 (sniper and marksman)
Nothing for Combined Army or Haqqislam.
The bit about the Wildcat HRL and Spitfire and a miscommunication regarding the Briscard box makes me wonder if the Wildcat HRL will not be its own blister or if it's being moved to a double blister.
Very interested in the Gao Rael with Spitfire. Last months Makaul troops did much to alleviate the disappointment in the Kamael light infantry, and the Gao-Rael Sniper is just awesome. If they can keep up the awesome of the Makaul, Gao-Rael and not-Kamael from the starter, Tohaa will be much more appealing to me.
I really don't understand why they come out Mercs that can only be used for a Sectoral. Yes I know that's only ITS rules but you know most guys use those standards even for fun games.
But the Kaplans and others can't be used used at all for a general Haqq army. ONLY QK. Does that many people play QK to warrant figures that can only be used by them? At least the Sekban can be used by a general Haqq list.
CDK wrote: I really don't understand why they come out Mercs that can only be used for a Sectoral. Yes I know that's only ITS rules but you know most guys use those standards even for fun games.
But the Kaplans and others can't be used used at all for a general Haqq army. ONLY QK. Does that many people play QK to warrant figures that can only be used by them? At least the Sekban can be used by a general Haqq list.
I think that's also the reason why there are much more QK players than Hassassins. I would want a non-Najjarun engineer for my general Haqq! Or at the very least they should resculpt the Najjarun (and maybe the Ghulam Doc or another Doc model) and release a Haqqislam Support Pack.
I think that's also the reason why there are much more QK players than Hassassins. I would want a non-Najjarun engineer for my general Haqq! Or at the very least they should resculpt the Najjarun (and maybe the Ghulam Doc or another Doc model) and release a Haqqislam Support Pack.
Agreed. The only thing Bahram does have and QK does not are FIdays, which are awesome, no two ways about it.
QK gets TAGs, all the mercs and Haris teams. Bahram seems like the red headed stepchild of Infinity. I sometimes miss not having chosen QK as my sectorial faction.
I think that's also the reason why there are much more QK players than Hassassins. I would want a non-Najjarun engineer for my general Haqq! Or at the very least they should resculpt the Najjarun (and maybe the Ghulam Doc or another Doc model) and release a Haqqislam Support Pack.
Agreed. The only thing Bahram does have and QK does not are FIdays, which are awesome, no two ways about it.
QK gets TAGs, all the mercs and Haris teams. Bahram seems like the red headed stepchild of Infinity. I sometimes miss not having chosen QK as my sectorial faction.
Welcome to Corregidor lol. CB likes to focus love on one sectorial at a time most likely because the sculptor can focus on the theme of the sectorial before moving over to the other sides of a faction.
CDK wrote: I really don't understand why they come out Mercs that can only be used for a Sectoral. Yes I know that's only ITS rules but you know most guys use those standards even for fun games.
But the Kaplans and others can't be used used at all for a general Haqq army. ONLY QK. Does that many people play QK to warrant figures that can only be used by them? At least the Sekban can be used by a general Haqq list.
I think that's also the reason why there are much more QK players than Hassassins. I would want a non-Najjarun engineer for my general Haqq! Or at the very least they should resculpt the Najjarun (and maybe the Ghulam Doc or another Doc model) and release a Haqqislam Support Pack.
I would use a different figure all together then. Meaning use a Nomad Hacker with Naijarun rules. He's a Merc, yet...not a Merc. As long as he looks like an Engineer I guess he would be fine. I love the Ariandna Dozer with the Tracktor Mul control device myself.
I think that's also the reason why there are much more QK players than Hassassins. I would want a non-Najjarun engineer for my general Haqq! Or at the very least they should resculpt the Najjarun (and maybe the Ghulam Doc or another Doc model) and release a Haqqislam Support Pack.
Agreed. The only thing Bahram does have and QK does not are FIdays, which are awesome, no two ways about it.
QK gets TAGs, all the mercs and Haris teams. Bahram seems like the red headed stepchild of Infinity. I sometimes miss not having chosen QK as my sectorial faction.
Welcome to Corregidor lol. CB likes to focus love on one sectorial at a time most likely because the sculptor can focus on the theme of the sectorial before moving over to the other sides of a faction.
Yup, Corregidor was the 2nd sectorial I was thinking about when I wrote my post.
Regarding the QK starter - Mercs would probably be a good idea, but I think they'd get Ghulams, an Odalisque a Djanbazan and maybe something else that is a common sight in QK.
CDK wrote: I really don't understand why they come out Mercs that can only be used for a Sectoral. Yes I know that's only ITS rules but you know most guys use those standards even for fun games.
But the Kaplans and others can't be used used at all for a general Haqq army. ONLY QK. Does that many people play QK to warrant figures that can only be used by them? At least the Sekban can be used by a general Haqq list.
Am I crazy, or are Kaplans AVA 2 for regular Haqq?
I think it was the backlash from some of the Infinity crowd on Romeo's apparent attitude and knownledge of the game. I've only listened to one episode, but in it he rambled on about broken lists and cheesy units etc etc. Kept me from listening to it any further personally. It kinda bothered me that an official rep had no clue on the game's balance or tactics.
BlueDagger wrote: I think it was the backlash from some of the Infinity crowd on Romeo's apparent attitude and knownledge of the game. I've only listened to one episode, but in it he rambled on about broken lists and cheesy units etc etc. Kept me from listening to it any further personally. It kinda bothered me that an official rep had no clue on the game's balance or tactics.
While I personally preferred to listen to tom and Kip, I've never felt Romeo was annoying or irritating. I hope they reconsider, the podcast was actually interesting and helped me fill inn the lonely slow hours at work.
Heh, maybe I should take my buddy up on the offer and start a podcast... not like I don't already have 70 Infinity related responsibilities on my plate lmao.
BlueDagger wrote: I think it was the backlash from some of the Infinity crowd on Romeo's apparent attitude and knownledge of the game. I've only listened to one episode, but in it he rambled on about broken lists and cheesy units etc etc. Kept me from listening to it any further personally. It kinda bothered me that an official rep had no clue on the game's balance or tactics.
It was less than that, more the fact that he decided to use airtime for the show to have a pretty big rant at the people who "trolled" him in his opinion.
BlueDagger wrote: Heh, maybe I should take my buddy up on the offer and start a podcast... not like I don't already have 70 Infinity related responsibilities on my plate lmao.
Dude, YES. Do it x2. Having a podcast moderated by someone who has in-depth knowledge of the game and who is an active community member would rule.
Romeo should basically be kept out of public contact. He runs a mean business and his products are great. He's just terrible at interacting with people.
Hey guys. I'm sad that this is what's pushing me from 'lurker for 16 months' to posting more actively on Dakka, but yeah. This entire matter was a real mess. Probably the darkest drama I've seen ever related to Infinity.
Very disappointing conduct, and well. I don't know why 'certain parties' think there's a conspiracy against them.
I've got the messages in question (hell, the entire thread) saved. But I don't think it'd be tactful to post that horrific affair unless people really want to see it.
Looks like they're reconsidering, at least according to their latest facebook post.
Infinity O-12 Facebook wrote:
We have been inundated with PMs and emails asking us not to stop the show due to the events that took place today. We are revisiting the decision made earlier and planning on where to go from here.
We can not promise that we will have a show up on the 1st of February, but we do not want to abandon you all, or the show, due to a select few sources of negativity.
We appreciate and thank each and every one of our supporters out there; and we would like to continue to deliver a product that is informative and entertaining.
Killionaire wrote: Hey guys. I'm sad that this is what's pushing me from 'lurker for 16 months' to posting more actively on Dakka, but yeah. This entire matter was a real mess. Probably the darkest drama I've seen ever related to Infinity.
Very disappointing conduct, and well. I don't know why 'certain parties' think there's a conspiracy against them.
I've got the messages in question (hell, the entire thread) saved. But I don't think it'd be tactful to post that horrific affair unless people really want to see it.
If at all possible, I vote for revelation for the sake of curiosity.
Killionaire wrote: Hey guys. I'm sad that this is what's pushing me from 'lurker for 16 months' to posting more actively on Dakka, but yeah. This entire matter was a real mess. Probably the darkest drama I've seen ever related to Infinity.
Very disappointing conduct, and well. I don't know why 'certain parties' think there's a conspiracy against them.
Really? You don't know why?
Maybe it's because of things such as this, Killionaire. The "darkest drama" happens, and now here you are offering up the saved thread?
I'm not a fan of Romeo. But I think that sometimes a spade is a spade, and in this instance I might need to do some shoveling.
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Micky wrote: Looks like they're reconsidering, at least according to their latest facebook post.
Infinity O-12 Facebook wrote:
We have been inundated with PMs and emails asking us not to stop the show due to the events that took place today. We are revisiting the decision made earlier and planning on where to go from here.
We can not promise that we will have a show up on the 1st of February, but we do not want to abandon you all, or the show, due to a select few sources of negativity.
We appreciate and thank each and every one of our supporters out there; and we would like to continue to deliver a product that is informative and entertaining.
Honestly, all that is needed was for Romeo to keep quiet about the topic or discuss it in a venue where it was appropriate.
On the podcast? Not the appropriate venue.
I don't have a particular dislike of Romeo, and it has been a while since I listened to 40K Radio. But I did think that the few episodes after Romeo quit running the show were a lot more enjoyable than the ones before. That was probably 6 months or so ago.
Well, I didn't have a particular dislike for him either but after being on the recieving end of his selfrighteous shenanigans I sure have plenty dislike for him now.
I did listen to thier podcast, but after hearing that rant filled with vitriol and getting angrier as he went on, I've decided to not bother with it any more. It was just childish & unprofessional - if he had a beef, then he could have just said "we're not rules experts, we've never claimed to be" like he did at the beginning of the rant. Or invite the people to record their own segment and submit it, money where mouth is stylee.
Unpleasant to listen to, frankly. If I want an earful of aggressive ranting over nothing, I'll go home and talk to the wife.
Fix wrote: Threatening one of the members on the official Infinity forums with finding him offline wasn't such a pro move either.
What the hell? If this is true, then its beyond the pale.
Isn't it possible that the show might be able to continue without him? I've heard the show a couple of times, but couldn't tell you which voice was his!
I have to say though it does all sound hilarious. What exactly had been said about him on the Infinity forums (especially considering they are generally quite amicable there?)
I like the show and I don't really care if one of them doesn't know everything about the rules. Just the fact that it exists is great.
@BlueDagger: Hey do one anyway! Don't wait for them to no longer do one or anything. It's not like I wouldn't l listen to all three pod casts! I listen to both of them and watch pretty much every Infinity thing on Youtube. The more the better.
Quick question for y'all; is there an English version of http://infinitythegame.com/dt_army/? I didn't see a button to switch languages. It's not too hard to work out what things mean, but I'm trying to learn the game and would prefer to learn the English terms and acronyms.
Looks amazing! I'm not entirely convinced of the Tohaa official colour scheme, as beautifully as it is painted, I'd be tempted to try something different and exemplify the biological nature of their synthetic armour.
Pacific wrote: Looks amazing! I'm not entirely convinced of the Tohaa official colour scheme, as beautifully as it is painted, I'd be tempted to try something different and exemplify the biological nature of their synthetic armour.
They do that.
The "synthetic armour" is actually only the glowing orangey bits. They wear "generic armour" plates, with some feeds/containment system holding the symbiotic armour in place.
The new Tohaa guy looks amazing. I liked the other Gao-Rael's sniper rifle hoodie pose, but this one has a dynamic 'I'm cutting through jungle' sort of machete thing.
That's a better sort of dynamic pose model than 'guy backflipping over a bannister' or 'upside down monk' we've seen on some older models
Killionaire wrote: The new Tohaa guy looks amazing. I liked the other Gao-Rael's sniper rifle hoodie pose, but this one has a dynamic 'I'm cutting through jungle' sort of machete thing.
That's a better sort of dynamic pose model than 'guy backflipping over a bannister' or 'upside down monk' we've seen on some older models
The "upside down monk" got replaced with a much better boxed set and was an old model anyways. The sideways Wulver will reportedly be replaced this month or next with a boxed set of its own containing female furries.
Thanks, I appreciate the help. Though I now feel like an idiot for not seeing the flags on the initial screen. I'd go to the page, then wander off while the Flash loaded
Nice fig but doesn't make me want to play them. While I like the action pose it still bugs me when I think of them holding and possibly shooting with one hand. I guess it would be find if it was an energy gun with no kick to it but I don't think it is.
I would think that the Spitfire would have relatively negligible recoil, as it is more of a suppression/assaulty weapon.
Not to mention that most of the units where we see it being held one handed are wearing power armor (or in the Gao-Rael's case, Symbionic Armor which is roughly equatable to the Sphere's power armor).
Either the Aleph army builders points are out on some stuff, or points have been updated and I never noticed. My 200pt Haqq army is 209pt in the Aleph army builder.
Actually, I just redid it in Aleph Toolbox, and I think it was due to naming oddness. I had a Ghulam Missile Launcher, because I didn't see Panzerfaust in the list initially, which ballooned the total by 11 points. I did it using the 'Rocket' Ghulam (which has the same costs as the Panzerfaust) and it came out right.
I like them all (drainpipe arm notwithstanding), and i really like how the Briscard unit seem well suited together: no outrageous poses, nothing to make them seem outlandish, just a quiet confidence and a watchfulness about them, really looks like they are clearing a building or scouting terrain...
Really like those Briscards, there is something very old fashioned looking about them! Can't quite put my finger on what it is, but whatever I think the French faction for Araidna have some of the nicest models going now in between these, the Merovingian pack and Loup Garos they released before.
That Yu Jing hacker is gorgeous as well - again interesting to see the difference in style and design aesthetic between that model and the Nomad. The former being very understated, the latter much more of a 'Wooooo look at me! I'm the best!' I guess whatever floats your boat
I forgot to do an "actual" review rather than just kneejerk at the Wildcat.
Briscards: Fantastic. They look very professional, they look similar without being carbon copies, and they have a good spread of equipment.
Celestial Guard Hacker: I like. That's a good hacking pose and I hope we see more of it.
Wildcat with HRL: *glare* It's the jackpot of things I hate. I'm starting to wonder if Corvus Belli considers rocket launchers as fashion accessories rather than weapons, because almost none of the RL equipped models are actually posed like they're firing the damn things.
ALEPH Support Pack: Excellent thing; if only it had been released sooner.
Gao-Rael with Spitfire: I like. It may be an overused pose, but it's a good one and it works here with his offhand machete.
I actually like the pose but feel that it doesn't fit with a Wildcat. It's a rockstar pose acknowledging your fans, or challenging your opponent. An Lhost that's used for showfights will fit that pose more, I think.
#1 the CG Hacker. I need him and it's really good.
#2 The Wildcat great to me. I love it FOR the pointing finger. Like she's Babe Ruth pointing out a home run. I think the thing about the drain pipe arm is nit picking and it's probably closer to reality than you think with that material she's wearing.
#3 Briscards. I love the beards. I'd love to see them in a white winter camo pattern.
#4 Gao-Rael. he's pretty cool but still doesn't do it for me. Yes the wildcat is not holding the HRL with both hands but then neither is he with a spitfire.
To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
PhantomViper wrote: I thought Aleph was getting Diomedes this month, what gives?
There was the statement that Diomedes had some kind of issues which is why he was delayed from December to January; might still have problems.
That is probably it then.
Thanks for the clarification.
Rumours say that the original Diomedes miniature suffered a few production/mould/whatever issues and they have to make it again.
Wait... you're saying that a mini company is actually trying to make its product the best it can before releasing it? I'm shocked, and happy I gave up my previous addiction!
PhantomViper wrote: I thought Aleph was getting Diomedes this month, what gives?
There was the statement that Diomedes had some kind of issues which is why he was delayed from December to January; might still have problems.
That is probably it then.
Thanks for the clarification.
Rumours say that the original Diomedes miniature suffered a few production/mould/whatever issues and they have to make it again.
Wait... you're saying that a mini company is actually trying to make its product the best it can before releasing it? I'm shocked, and happy I gave up my previous addiction!
I hate to break it to you, but this isn't like the "Finecast" issue. This would not have been problems with miscasts, etc.
This would have been problems like the model would not actually cast correctly. It would be something like the old Inquisitor 54mm Vindicare Sniper, which was tearing the molds apart every 20 or so castings.
Kanluwen wrote: To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
Ya.. I kinda skipped those posts because of the new stuff I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
Kanluwen wrote: To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
Ya.. I kinda skipped those posts because of the new stuff I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
Im just waiting for the Molotok to come out and hoping that they are held in two hands (they dont have the excuse that Ariadna has hi-tech powered armour...)
Personally I like how wildcat is, no issue with the HRL, I really doubt it is that heavy with meta materials, composites and micro missiles the load cannot be that big, the pose on the other hand is fantastic, i think it follows a trend were missile and rocket equipped models seem to enjoy their kills.
Personally I like how wildcat is, no issue with the HRL, I really doubt it is that heavy with meta materials, composites and micro missiles the load cannot be that big, the pose on the other hand is fantastic, i think it follows a trend were missile and rocket equipped models seem to enjoy their kills.
If you said the trend was "overbalanced and silly poses for missile and rocket equipped models", you'd be right.
As it is the Wildcat HRL is just another poor "I GOT YOU!" pose combined with a fashion statement of the new Nomad "Heavy Rocket Launcher Spring Collection"
And just to make it clear here:
The Wildcat is awful. Awful. Awful. AWFUL.
PsychoticStorm wrote: its Autumn collection and what problem do you have with "I got you" poses?
Where to start...
They're almost exclusively on female models, they're almost always accompanied by some ridiculous bit which delineates them even further from their male counterparts (Naga Sniper v. Hacker), and they are almost always done in such a way that they are virtually unconvertable.
Try converting the Naga Sniper so that she doesn't suck sometime. You'll end up wasting the model since they decided to actually have her hair attached to the gun, along with the backpack.
I really liek the wildcat model, only gripe is it doesn't feel like Corregidor. Paint it white and it's be a great bakuinin model. Take off the hair and it feels right, which is perfect since that hair will look great on riot grrls
One problem with the wildcat's arm is the placement of the shoulder pad, and the elbow pad. Visually, they remove the joints and accentuate the curved, boneless appearance. The "ribbing" doesn't help. The ribs should have been horizontal and vertical, with a sharp transition at the elbow. Instead, they slowly curve during the whole arm, like spokes on a wheel. If it hadn't been painted with such high contrast, with almost white highlights on a black background, it would have been much less obvious.
But overall I like them all, especially the Yu Jing hacker.
Kanluwen wrote: To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
Ya.. I kinda skipped those posts because of the new stuff I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
Im just waiting for the Molotok to come out and hoping that they are held in two hands (they dont have the excuse that Ariadna has hi-tech powered armour...)
No, they just are masters of weapon technology. There the only human faction able to make Autocannon a infantry weapons, do to there recoil improvements and micro technology.
Kanluwen wrote: To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
Ya.. I kinda skipped those posts because of the new stuff I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
Im just waiting for the Molotok to come out and hoping that they are held in two hands (they dont have the excuse that Ariadna has hi-tech powered armour...)
No, they just are masters of weapon technology. There the only human faction able to make Autocannon a infantry weapons, do to there recoil improvements and micro technology.
It's more likely because they're the only human faction which doesn't have access to MULTI HMGs or HMCs...
You see the same thing with the Morat, who have Autocannons on the Kurgat.
I prefer to think of it the same way Noir does, with Ariadna being the secretly super high-tech faction
EDIT: On a less jokey point, one of the reasons i love the Tankhunter model so much is because he has both hands on the gun and looks like he means business...none of this one handed assault weapon rubbish with the Spitfire (even though the answer given makes sense, dont start! ), or the RL/HRL poses that do seem to be becoming a trend...not a bad thing for the Sekhban as he pulls it off, but i dont think the Agema, Wildcat, or even the Briscard really manage it completely (thankfully the rest of the model easily makes up for it with the Briscard IMO)
Kanluwen wrote: To be absolutely fair, we've already had the discussion on Spitfires being held one handed.
There's actually a somewhat reasonable possible explanation given that a Spitfire is an "assaulty" weapon and most of the models holding/firing them one handed are wearing some form of powered armor--of which Symbiotic Armor is an example.
Ya.. I kinda skipped those posts because of the new stuff I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
Im just waiting for the Molotok to come out and hoping that they are held in two hands (they dont have the excuse that Ariadna has hi-tech powered armour...)
No, they just are masters of weapon technology. There the only human faction able to make Autocannon a infantry weapons, do to there recoil improvements and micro technology.
It's more likely because they're the only human faction which doesn't have access to MULTI HMGs or HMCs...
You see the same thing with the Morat, who have Autocannons on the Kurgat.
Or you know, it could be out right stated in the book that is why they have the Autocannon. Advanced micro weapon tech and recoil tech.
The bend straw arm is likely an illusion from the camera angle and painting. Several of the Nomads have this armor and it's like the elbow in person is just fine.
Scrub wrote:Everything looks superb, as usual, other than the Wildcat, looks like it has a drainpipe for an arm!
Baalirock wrote:I'll be the first to say it...
What's with the Wildcat's rocket launcher arm? I like her design apart from that. Aleph support pack looks very sleek, too.
So did the Kan Man, apparently!
I have no problem with models having 'non-firing' poses.
No problem at all!
I should clarify, since I know Alphy will tease me endlessly here...
I am not entirely against 'non-firing' poses. I have a problem with 'silly non-firing and unnecessary genderization' poses.
Things like the Sekban with HRL, Phoenix, even the Briscard with HRL?
Those look good. They look dynamic.
You can envisage the Sekban moving himself up to a firing position with no real rush, trusting to his armor to keep him safe.
You can envisage Phoenix at the front of a Myrmidon defensive line, yelling at his charges to hold the line.
You can envisage the Briscard with HRL spotting targets for his squad as he waits for the right moment to unleash his rockets at a nice, juicy target.
The Wildcat? Nothing about that particular pose (or the ridiculous "cyberponytail". Why? WHY?! What other Corregidor models have anything like that? None! Even the so/so Tomcat Engineer has no ponytail. That's a Bakunin thing, dangit!) makes you think of Corregidor. Nothing about that makes you think of a hardcore unit that Corregidor employs for the truly nasty missions.
If anything, it makes you think of the ridiculousness that is Bakunin cranked up to 11 and given a dose of Michael Bay syndrome.
I am way, way into that Wildcat model. I simply couldn't disagree with Kanluwen more (respectfully of course). The pose is great, and I love the flying hair. Yes, it's very ornamental and not terribly practical. But this is an anime-based fantasy Sci-fi game, not a military modelers' accuracy-contest.
The CG hacker is great too. Can't wait to get that fig! It's interesting that it's the first hacker manipulating a device rather than a midair AR display though- I kind of like that concreteness actually.
You know, one of things that sets Infinity minis ahead of other well-proportioned heroic mini ranges is the great amount of attitude in some of the poses. The finger-pointers, the cocked hips, etc. are great, but without resorting to "bald and screaming" much at all. Sure, they make some things kinda unrealistic (especially the feminine "too sexy for my gun" poses, but an ability to abridge realism slightly in favor of the awesome why we're not just playing some grim near-future spec-ops game.
As for the bendy straw, that might not be so much the case when you see the mini from a regular play angle. Lots of things look odd when viewed from table height. The only recent Infinity mini (that I recall) that had a fuggly picture that turned out to be dead accurate was the fatty Agema.
Also, the first one to model the Sekban walking away from an explosion should probably get a prize of some sort.
Savnock wrote: You know, one of things that sets Infinity minis ahead of other well-proportioned heroic mini ranges is the great amount of attitude in some of the poses. The finger-pointers, the cocked hips, etc. are great, but without resorting to "bald and screaming" much at all. Sure, they make some things kinda unrealistic (especially the feminine "too sexy for my gun" poses, but an ability to abridge realism slightly in favor of the awesome why we're not just playing some grim near-future spec-ops game.
Yep, I mean, the model that got me to start Infinity is a sniper that's not aiming.
Spoiler:
Corvus Belli are great at doing non aiming and even non combat poses. That Hawwa is just doing a cool pose with her rifle resting on her pack. It's my favorite sniper fig.
I've got mixed feelings in this regard. I love the Al'Hawwa, but I hate for example the Mk2 sniper proxy. Sitting casually on that low wall, it just doesn't work for me, that's why I had to completely change the pose on her.
I'm super picky with poses and tend to prefer tacticool stuff over manga attitudes, but some of the more casual poses indeed positively set the Infinity sculpts apart from all the other companies.
I'd actually say CB got some of everything and that's why it's appealing to everyone. You get your snipers in realistic poses, in casual poses, in triumphant poses and in manga poses. And if you still want screaming baldheads, they recently released Ajax for you...
Savnock wrote: You know, one of things that sets Infinity minis ahead of other well-proportioned heroic mini ranges is the great amount of attitude in some of the poses. The finger-pointers, the cocked hips, etc. are great, but without resorting to "bald and screaming" much at all. Sure, they make some things kinda unrealistic (especially the feminine "too sexy for my gun" poses, but an ability to abridge realism slightly in favor of the awesome why we're not just playing some grim near-future spec-ops game.
Yep, I mean, the model that got me to start Infinity is a sniper that's not aiming.
Spoiler:
Corvus Belli are great at doing non aiming and even non combat poses. That Hawwa is just doing a cool pose with her rifle resting on her pack. It's my favorite sniper fig.
That's the model that convinced me to start Haqqislam!
Does anyone have any idea of when the January models will be released? It seems a little late and The War Store doesn't have them up for sale yet besides pre-order. I was hoping to have those sweet Makaul troops by now. I'm getting a little anxious to place my order.
Alpharius wrote: I see you those Makaul and raise you a...Raicho!
Seriously though, I would also like to know when "December" releases (for sale in January) will be available.
Hopefully we're not on the verge of a 2 month gap on a regular basis!
You got me there. I don't even play or collect CA and I'm seriously considering buying a Raicho to paint just because it's just a sweet looking model. I hope it isn't much longer until we get our hands on the new stuff. I can't stand the waiting, I've been collecting up all the Tohaa and waiting to paint them all at once and the Makaul and Gao-Rael with Spitfire are the last minis I was awaiting for the big paint fest. Why must they torture us like this?
Alpharius wrote: I see you those Makaul and raise you a...Raicho!
Seriously though, I would also like to know when "December" releases (for sale in January) will be available.
Hopefully we're not on the verge of a 2 month gap on a regular basis!
You got me there. I don't even play or collect CA and I'm seriously considering buying a Raicho to paint just because it's just a sweet looking model. I hope it isn't much longer until we get our hands on the new stuff. I can't stand the waiting, I've been collecting up all the Tohaa and waiting to paint them all at once and the Makaul and Gao-Rael with Spitfire are the last minis I was awaiting for the big paint fest. Why must they torture us like this?
It's CB's standard issues with big releases after periods of inactivity coupled (most likely) with the storms we've been getting off/on here on the East Coast.
I'll keep my eyes peeled for any update from The Warstore, and I will try my best to ensure that I post it here as soon as I see it--unless someone beats me to it.
Thanks Kanluwen, I appreciate it. I've been checking as often as possible here as well. I guess it's too much to ask for CB to just have a standard "release week" every month. That way we wouldn't have to speculate and pull our hair out or aggravate the FLGS every month about new releases. I don't even bother asking the local shop owner about getting the latest releases that I'm most excited about. The shared annoyance on both our parts simply isn't worth it. He can't ever get anything in a reasonable amount of time from his distributor and I simply won't wait an extra month or two for them to ship it to him.
ephrael wrote: Thanks Kanluwen, I appreciate it. I've been checking as often as possible here as well. I guess it's too much to ask for CB to just have a standard "release week" every month. That way we wouldn't have to speculate and pull our hair out or aggravate the FLGS every month about new releases. I don't even bother asking the local shop owner about getting the latest releases that I'm most excited about. The shared annoyance on both our parts simply isn't worth it. He can't ever get anything in a reasonable amount of time from his distributor and I simply won't wait an extra month or two for them to ship it to him.
Okay, I talked with someone there and it was a mistake. It was supposed to be listed as a preorder and not "in stock".
BoLs have been running a few introductory Infinity articles lately so I'm guessing they're being both rewarded for doing so and incentivised to carry on!
Huh, today is Giraldez's 10th anniversary day... in his marriage to Corvus Belli.
Well, congratulations to Giraldez!
And to Corvus Belli for getting their hands on him
Scrub wrote: BoLs have been running a few introductory Infinity articles lately so I'm guessing they're being both rewarded for doing so and incentivised to carry on!
Seems like a deal. "You introduce in INFINITY all those 40k fanatics and We'll give you exclusive previews."
Darn it...my desire to start a MO Pan-O army is so strong! What sucks is I live in the middle of nowhere Wyoming...and there is no one that I know of who plays any tabletop games!!!! Suck!
I feel as though I am going against the crowd on this one, I am really not a fan of the sculpt.
He seems as though he is posed in an awkward fashion, but I can't really put my finger on it. Not making me want to start MO in my opinion.
Pacific wrote: Wow neat, like the just touching down pose now. Bet this guy will be nasty in the game!
... and nasty to glue and stay glued
Pinning has to become a way of life when you start collecting Infinity figs. Some lines less than others. Of course it's worth it for the quality of the figs, and is the small price you have to pay for not having giant-hammy-GW-hands-and-heads.
The poor buggers who go with Aleph have to pin -everything- on the Dakini bots or they break with great ease, though. And apparently the Uberfallkommando require pinning but have very slim extremities, so I've heard from several folks who have pinned with bits of wire etc.
Even in the Yu Jing line, I'm spending a good hour or two pinning some Karikiri together this weekend. I started by just gluing one of them, then realized there was no way that all those slim joints would stand up to battlefield abuse, etc.
So if you start collecting Infinity, get reeeeeal comfortable with your pin vise because you'll be using it for about 1/4 to 1/8th of your collection. Those crusader backpack vents definitely merit a pin.
Savnock wrote: Pinning has to become a way of life when you start collecting Infinity figs.
I haven't pinned a single Infinity fig, and that includes models with some ricidulously fragile connection points like the BS Fiday, Spitfire Muyib and Panzerfaust Ghulam (both arms on that model are very fragile).
I generally find Infinity figs to have joints just too small to pin.
I find good army transport and not using the models as soccer balls helps with them not breaking.
For many figures, you really don't have to outright pin the model's feet. Cut the base's "tab" into a small triangular or rectangular shape and drill a comparable hole in the base. Then, you have a tab and slot!
I just glue them into slottabases, which I sand, paint and flock normally. I dunno, I just don't like all these overly complicated bases; it detracts attention away from the model. I've also always hated the really tall bases, because it looks like you're compensating for something.
Once I managed to assemble my Haqq remotes, I was glad that I just converted to a magnetised transportation solution. Since my models are not being carried in foam, but stand upright on a metal sheet inside a box, there shouldn't be any risk of the aerials snapping off during transport...
Pacific wrote: Wow neat, like the just touching down pose now. Bet this guy will be nasty in the game!
... and nasty to glue and stay glued
Yes I would probably put a hole in the base of his foot, then one in the base, add a paperclip and job done. Looking at the posts above it seems opinions differ on how much pinning is necessary with Infinity models. From my own experience, I have only had to pin perhaps 1 out of 10 models usually - a decent contact area, well prepared, with a good super glue and it shouldn't be necessary in most cases.
Tech Guard wrote:I feel as though I am going against the crowd on this one, I am really not a fan of the sculpt.
He seems as though he is posed in an awkward fashion, but I can't really put my finger on it. Not making me want to start MO in my opinion.
Yes I can see what you mean, although do you realise the context of the miniature in that he is a drop trooper coming in to land?
I think that is one of the things of trying a more dynamically styled sculpt - yes it would be very easy to just model everything stood there with a gun, but then arguably you would be denied the likes of Bran De Castro, Saito Togan and Cassandra Kusanagi. Occasionally you do get a misfire though (wulver vaulting the wall springs to mind) and obviously the more dynamic pose leaves more open to subjective opinion I think.
Yes I can see what you mean, although do you realise the context of the miniature in that he is a drop trooper coming in to land?
I think that is one of the things of trying a more dynamically styled sculpt - yes it would be very easy to just model everything stood there with a gun, but then arguably you would be denied the likes of Bran De Castro, Saito Togan and Cassandra Kusanagi. Occasionally you do get a misfire though (wulver vaulting the wall springs to mind) and obviously the more dynamic pose leaves more open to subjective opinion I think.
Yeah I understand the context of the mini, I just don't like the look of the cocked leg just before he lands. If the leg was positioned closer to the body it would be a great improvement aesthetically IMO.
Yes I can see what you mean, although do you realise the context of the miniature in that he is a drop trooper coming in to land?
I think that is one of the things of trying a more dynamically styled sculpt - yes it would be very easy to just model everything stood there with a gun, but then arguably you would be denied the likes of Bran De Castro, Saito Togan and Cassandra Kusanagi. Occasionally you do get a misfire though (wulver vaulting the wall springs to mind) and obviously the more dynamic pose leaves more open to subjective opinion I think.
Yeah I understand the context of the mini, I just don't like the look of the cocked leg just before he lands. If the leg was positioned closer to the body it would be a great improvement aesthetically IMO.
To me the Ekdromoi looks like he (she?) is coming down almost vertically, perhaps even gently. Certainly the pose and gait is more relaxed.
I can imagine the Crusader coming in at speed and from an angle, perhaps even to slide to a halt. It's a hard landing and so his legs are more spread to ensure he stops without going sprawling over the pavement, and his HMG is already up and ready to shoot within moments of landing. At least that's my take on it! Even though they are both drop troopers coming in to land, their poses and aspect are quite different - the Crusader looks a lot more aggressive.
One easy way to modify posing is to just lean things one way or another. Lean the HMG guy back a bit and it'll look like the jets are still bearing a bit of the weight.
Charles Rampant wrote: I just glue them into slottabases, which I sand, paint and flock normally. I dunno, I just don't like all these overly complicated bases; it detracts attention away from the model. I've also always hated the really tall bases, because it looks like you're compensating for something.
Once I managed to assemble my Haqq remotes, I was glad that I just converted to a magnetised transportation solution. Since my models are not being carried in foam, but stand upright on a metal sheet inside a box, there shouldn't be any risk of the aerials snapping off during transport...
All my models stand on their bases... In foam trays. The Battle Foam Alpha Infinity bag with the horizontal load out to be exact. Sheet metal seems like a god idea until... Well, ANYTHING happens to the carrying system. I had a buddy who used (past tense) a tackle box with sheet metal lining and magnetized bases. Until, that is, the folding table all our cases were on collapsed because some fat kid decided to sit on it. About a two foot drop after sliding off the now slanted broken table. His models didn't break as much as they completely disintegrated into all of their constituent parts. It was... Like something out of a Bones episode, but without all the Gore.
Not substantially bigger, the gun barrel is the most critical part in its length, that been said, it is a healthy 5mm longer than a modern era combi rifle.
All my models stand on their bases... In foam trays. The Battle Foam Alpha Infinity bag with the horizontal load out to be exact. Sheet metal seems like a god idea until... Well, ANYTHING happens to the carrying system. I had a buddy who used (past tense) a tackle box with sheet metal lining and magnetized bases. Until, that is, the folding table all our cases were on collapsed because some fat kid decided to sit on it. About a two foot drop after sliding off the now slanted broken table. His models didn't break as much as they completely disintegrated into all of their constituent parts. It was... Like something out of a Bones episode, but without all the Gore.
You're not making me very happy, it must be said! I've noticed that the cases don't respond to sharp knocks very well, at least not like my GW cases which can take a total battering. However I've also noticed that Saladin's sword was getting badly bent by my GW case, which made me sad. I got the idea to use this technique more due to my Fantasy army - I could see no feasible way to transport 12 chariots, a Necrosphinx and 6 Necropolis Knights in foam cases. At least not for sane money.
PsychoticStorm wrote: Yes, all weapons are been scaled to be realistically proportioned to the models holding them.
As someone who very recently bought the rule book and is trying to figure out what faction to start with, that is great news. One of the things that attracts me to Infinity is realistic weapons and figures instead fo the guys and gals with SUPER GUNZZ that a real person could never effectively use in combat.
plastictrees wrote: Shouldn't an HMG be bigger than a combi-rifle?
I'm confused by some of the recent weapon sizes.
I think CB is scaling back some (all?) of the larger weapon sizes a bit. I think it is a trend that's going to continue forward...
I guess that never struck me as an issue. The older minis are bigger in general than the newer ones, just like we saw with Confrontation minis. That's more of a concern to me than weapon proportions.
plastictrees wrote: Shouldn't an HMG be bigger than a combi-rifle?
I'm confused by some of the recent weapon sizes.
I think CB is scaling back some (all?) of the larger weapon sizes a bit. I think it is a trend that's going to continue forward...
I guess that never struck me as an issue. The older minis are bigger in general than the newer ones, just like we saw with Confrontation minis. That's more of a concern to me than weapon proportions.
What? Not everyone likes football-sized plasma pistols being bandied about like they are made of cardboard?
You're not making me very happy, it must be said! I've noticed that the cases don't respond to sharp knocks very well, at least not like my GW cases which can take a total battering. However I've also noticed that Saladin's sword was getting badly bent by my GW case, which made me sad. I got the idea to use this technique more due to my Fantasy army - I could see no feasible way to transport 12 chariots, a Necrosphinx and 6 Necropolis Knights in foam cases. At least not for sane money.
What kind of metal sheeting did your friend use?
I have no idea... but the sheets worked like a charm. It was the complete and utter lack of anything to absorb a shock that doomed his minis. The bases were perfectly still connected by their magnets to the sheets, just arms, heads and weapons exploded all ober the place. My bag and models survived just fine. I pin every joint on my models, sure, but they survived without a problem.
Thought it was really cool the way that Corvus Belli are trying to help out that new unofficial forum to get started, letting them use official imagery and things like that.
All my models stand on their bases... In foam trays. The Battle Foam Alpha Infinity bag with the horizontal load out to be exact. Sheet metal seems like a god idea until... Well, ANYTHING happens to the carrying system. I had a buddy who used (past tense) a tackle box with sheet metal lining and magnetized bases. Until, that is, the folding table all our cases were on collapsed because some fat kid decided to sit on it. About a two foot drop after sliding off the now slanted broken table. His models didn't break as much as they completely disintegrated into all of their constituent parts. It was... Like something out of a Bones episode, but without all the Gore.
You're not making me very happy, it must be said! I've noticed that the cases don't respond to sharp knocks very well, at least not like my GW cases which can take a total battering. However I've also noticed that Saladin's sword was getting badly bent by my GW case, which made me sad. I got the idea to use this technique more due to my Fantasy army - I could see no feasible way to transport 12 chariots, a Necrosphinx and 6 Necropolis Knights in foam cases. At least not for sane money.
What kind of metal sheeting did your friend use?
19 large models is hard to do in foam, but not impossible. I just ran that through the Battlefoam custom tray builder. 1 tray for 12 chariots, 1 tray for 6 Necropolis Knights. The Necrosphinx throws a spanner in the works and needs a third tray, but barely takes 1/3 of it, leaving you plenty of room for more.
While a bit pricey at I think $120us for the three trays, that's 3 foam trays custom laser cut specifically to comfortably store your 19 large models. I wouldn't call that unreasonable. Other companies would charge you the same for pluck foam which wouldn't get anywhere near the space efficiency.
While a bit pricey at I think $120us for the three trays, that's 3 foam trays custom laser cut specifically to comfortably store your 19 large models. I wouldn't call that unreasonable. Other companies would charge you the same for pluck foam which wouldn't get anywhere near the space efficiency.
Pacific wrote: Thought it was really cool the way that Corvus Belli are trying to help out that new unofficial forum to get started, letting them use official imagery and things like that.
They are still going of course, but a group of members wanted to start their own separate and unofficial forum.
I'm not entirely sure of the reasons why, other than to have a more personable area perhaps. I did read something also about Micro Arts Studio getting an exclusive licensing deal for Infinity terrain, meaning that some other adverts for other terrain builders were forbidden (not sure how closely this is maintained - I've often posted stuff from other makers without problems)- so that would also be a pretty strong reason.
Pacific wrote: They are still going of course, but a group of members wanted to start their own separate and unofficial forum.
I'm not entirely sure of the reasons why, other than to have a more personable area perhaps. I did read something also about Micro Arts Studio getting an exclusive licensing deal for Infinity terrain, meaning that some other adverts for other terrain builders were forbidden (not sure how closely this is maintained - I've often posted stuff from other makers without problems)- so that would also be a pretty strong reason.
Basiclly CB banned 3rd party sells becouse some people got scamed, then they email CB about it. So CB put a blanket ban on all 3rd party and non-store ads except for there offical partners, note they have offered to make other terrain companies partners too, just no takers yet. It got blown out off proportion by some. This was the out come, in the end it's a good thing. As the more places were poeple can learn about Infinity the better.
The main reason is that Corvus Belli published some new forum rules saying that selling stuff in their forum was no longer allowed.
They even suggested the creation of an unofficial forums to the complaining users.
The thing is that the best way to sell Infinity themed terrain was the Infinity official forum. Sarissa, Warmill and many others were there selling their stuff and receiving feedback from the players. Also many players were selling their miniatures there.
I guess this measure is a way to protect their partners (BattleFoam, MicroArtStudio) and also the stores and distributors from that kind of unofficial competitors.
I've just read a few threads in the "Terrain" section of the new "Data Sphere" Forum and it seems that anyone in the world with a Laser cut printer has made his own non-official INFINITY terrain company and it's sellling there.
It seems that the big business in INFINITY is terrain. People need like 8 big blocks of terrain for a decent Infinity table and just 10 miniatures for playing. Buildings cost 30$, miniatures are like 9$.
Just make a fething cube, put some hexagons in it and sell it. Be smart and put the ∞ symbol somewhere.
EDIT: That's true. CB offers to make a pertnership with the new terrain companies but their answer was like "I don't need you to promote my product as long as I have your forum to promote my product."
While a bit pricey at I think $120us for the three trays, that's 3 foam trays custom laser cut specifically to comfortably store your 19 large models. I wouldn't call that unreasonable. Other companies would charge you the same for pluck foam which wouldn't get anywhere near the space efficiency.
+$50 for shipping to AU...
... I was responding to someone in the UK, where Battlefoam have a warehouse. Excessive shipping isn't a concern.
Micky wrote: Sorry, I missed that context. Carry on
Even still, I'd gladly pay $50au shipping (and have) for the super efficient laser cut trays BF offers. Though, being a Tyranid and Vampire Counts player, I'm baised towards foam that won't break my awkward, fragils models
Micky wrote: Sorry, I missed that context. Carry on
Even still, I'd gladly pay $50au shipping (and have) for the super efficient laser cut trays BF offers. Though, being a Tyranid and Vampire Counts player, I'm baised towards foam that won't break my awkward, fragils models
I honestly do tend to go with KR for most of my foam needs, although i do have an Infinity Beta bag and an Alpha bag on order
There isn't much agreement, and apart of the Wulvers that Giraldez allegedly confirmed (if he wasn't joking) there aren't rumours. From that listing they published in a pic of a whiteboard, I think only Wulvers, Diomedes and Volunteer HMG are still missing. All the other stuff is available (Raicho, Makaul, Riot Grrls, Hospitalier HMG, Kaplan, Biscards...).
Angel Giraldez says (in Facebook) that if he gets 1400 likes he'll make a step by step guide for her. He has 1271 in this moment. I agree that she must be Ko Dali.
There's no doubt that it is Ko Dali, as that is a quote directly regarding her in Campaign: Paradiso. It's attributed to Prisoner CA-S00208, Gwailos Unit officer, Shasvastii race, when shown a holo-image of Special Operative Ko Dali.
It's on page 122, if you want to see for yourself.
Great bit of detective work there Kan, bonus geek points for you there!
Can't wait to see what the mini will look like for Ko-Dali, and also on a lesser note cool to see that CB are supporting the new unofficial forum by giving them stuff like this.
Given the context of the whole Shasvastii prisoner interrogation, it makes a lot more sense.
Well, ignoring the pompous villain speak, I always thought that the face of something is, you know, part of that thing. It just reads to me as "You're fail, human. And she's like, the failiest of you all, so we made her the face of the whole fail thing. Now look at her."
Given the context of the whole Shasvastii prisoner interrogation, it makes a lot more sense.
Well, ignoring the pompous villain speak, I always thought that the face of something is, you know, part of that thing. It just reads to me as "You're fail, human. And she's like, the failiest of you all, so we made her the face of the whole fail thing. Now look at her."
Or you could think of it as "You will fail, human. She was one of your best and even she failed to stop us. Look upon her and see the results of your failure."
If you don't have Campaign Paradiso yet, I'd be glad to post Ko Dali's "statements" that she put out that are on the same page which really put the quote into a much better framework.
Does it say in the book if the prisoner is more than a random guy. I'm just thinking that maybe the prisoner was one of the soldiers who failed to protect/save Ko Dali, which would make the "your failure" quite literal, and I can't check for myself since my book is at home... and I'm not.
Though I guess it's rather unlikely.
The CF wrote: Does it say in the book if the prisoner is more than a random guy. I'm just thinking that maybe the prisoner was one of the soldiers who failed to protect/save Ko Dali, which would make the "your failure" quite literal, and I can't check for myself since my book is at home... and I'm not.
Though I guess it's rather unlikely.
The prisoner is a Shasvastii.
Keeping in mind that they do not speak English as their mother tongue, I like this stylisation because it is not only trying to convey what they want to say but also how they say it.
Compare English and Chinese for a similar difference in language.
Moiras are great in the backfield while Riot Grrls are good out on the attack. An ARM3, Religious, Optical Disruptor, behind cover with an HMG, is a great defender.
Yeah, but it's yet another Bakunin unit release interfering with a Corregidor starter box release.
At this point, it's more likely that Bakunin will have every single possible profile released before Corregidor sees their starter box--or even sees the Iguana, which should have came out in the same general timeframe as the Lizard.
Oh, and the Gecko?
I don't even expect to see that until two books down the line with the kind of attention that Corregidor gets. I think the Wildcat with HRL will get a resculpt before the damn Gecko even comes out.
Kanluwen wrote: I don't think anyone needs/wants a box of Moiras.
It is one of the older sculpts though, and looking at the concept art I'd be interested to see what kind of job they could do with it these days (especially considering the Reverend Custodier, which kind of has a similar concept, and is many people's favourite).
I can agree with you there. Bakunin has gotten to much lately. Corregidor needs to be next for sure.
Bao makes sense if it was already delayed and Yu Jing hasn't anything with the Paradiso yet.
Here's what I think may happen with box sets and the order they may come in.
Have come out Yu Jing (Wu Ming)
Nomads (Riot Grrls)
Tohaa (Makaul)
Aleph (Support)
Ariadna (Briscards)
To Come that we know about? PanO (Support)
Yu Jing (Bao)
Haqqislam/Mercs (Kaplan)
To come out, my guess Nomads (Corregidor starter with Wildcats)
Tohaa (Sakiel or Gorgos)
Combined Army (Suryats)
Ariadana (Scot Guards)
PanO (Some TAG not out yet)
Yu Jing (Raiden)
Haqqislam (Sekban)
Nomads (Geko)
Tohaa (Sakiel or Gorgos)
Combined (Caliban)
I think they may come out with an Combined Oznat with Hungries.
I'm curious how they'll end up releasing Penthesilea. It's a single model on a motorcycle, and most motorcycle boxed sets have thus far been two-per-box.
I also feel that it may be too big for just a single blister.
So the curiosity remains on whether Penthesilea will be boxed or not.
Kanluwen wrote: I don't think anyone needs/wants a box of Moiras.
It is one of the older sculpts though, and looking at the concept art I'd be interested to see what kind of job they could do with it these days (especially considering the Reverend Custodier, which kind of has a similar concept, and is many people's favourite).
Of course the Reverend Custodiers are going to be a favorite. They're a good profile with good AVA, good models, and priced almost the same as the Reverend Moiras in game terms. Their weapon options aren't as good, but putting Custodiers with Moderators and other Bakunin units more than makes up for that.
But a Reverend Moiras box before a Mobile Brigada box? A box for an AVA 3 unit(with a whopping four profiles using the Multi Rifle, one with a Multi Rifle+EM Grenade Launcher, an HMG profile, and a Multi Sniper Rifle profile) versus a box for an AVA 6 unit--which does not even have the basic profile available outside of the stupid Nomad Starter Box?
You would think that Corvus Belli would use some common sense, but clearly not. Between a potential Reverend Moiras box and a Mobile Brigada box or an Intruders box or the Corregidor starter box or any number of potential boxes for Corregidor, you'd think they would wise up and release something for Corregidor--who at this moment actually have no boxed sets beyond an outdated "generic" Nomad starter box(and I'm only giving this one as a Corregidor box since out of the box only two models, the Zero and Securitate are not Corregidor profiles) with sculpts as old as the Reverend Moiras versus the five boxed sets of Bakunin.
Bah. Just bah.
In reply to you CDK:
Gorgos are most likely going to be a blister pack rather than a boxed set. They seem to be like they would be Ajax sized, tops. It's going to depend upon their synchronized servants.
The likelihood of a Gecko release is going to depend upon whether it is done via CAD or not. If CAD, it's gonna be a loooong time. There's also still the matter of the missing Iguana TAG, which was reputed to be a November release with the Raicho but is still notably missing. The Gecko though, from what I remember of CB's comments, is going to be a two model boxed set similar to most remotes where you get the parts to build the different profiles.
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Absolutionis wrote: I'm curious how they'll end up releasing Penthesilea. It's a single model on a motorcycle, and most motorcycle boxed sets have thus far been two-per-box.
I also feel that it may be too big for just a single blister.
So the curiosity remains on whether Penthesilea will be boxed or not.
I think it's gonna be dependent upon the size and if they give her a scenic base or not.
If no scenic base and she's smaller than the Sphinx? Blister.
Scenic base and same size as the Sphinx? Box.
But a Reverend Moiras box before a Mobile Brigada box? A box for an AVA 3 unit(with a whopping four profiles using the Multi Rifle, one with a Multi Rifle+EM Grenade Launcher, an HMG profile, and a Multi Sniper Rifle profile) versus a box for an AVA 6 unit--which does not even have the basic profile available outside of the stupid Nomad Starter Box?
I'm with you, on Bakunin, they should get a year off why Corrregidor get a chance to catch up. Mostly becouse I own all but 4 Bakunin model out all the already released models and the Grrls are on there way, and I want the starter set before I really staaert on Corregidor.
But, saying that you mus really dislike the Moiras if you missed there now AVA4 meaning, 5 man ODD teams are here. Would of had money on ALEPH being the first to do that. But the got there 4 man no limit to how many link thing going on.
CDK wrote: Does anyone really need a box of Moiras? I'm willing to be they look totally different than original though. Probably more to reflect they are ARM3.
Given the recent discussion on what models need more a resculpt was Moiras (and followed closely to like custodiers) I think CB is quite cleaver and ahead of the trends in what needs to be resculpted and reimagined, Coregidor? yes it will get its sweet star time, but loose ends must be finished, makes quite sense to finish bakunin since it is close to finish anyway while injecting the odd coregidor model, to start warming up for its time.
PsychoticStorm wrote: Given the recent discussion on what models need more a resculpt was Moiras (and followed closely to like custodiers) I think CB is quite cleaver and ahead of the trends in what needs to be resculpted and reimagined, Coregidor? yes it will get its sweet star time, but loose ends must be finished, makes quite sense to finish bakunin since it is close to finish anyway while injecting the odd coregidor model, to start warming up for its time.
They'll have years to do what needs to be "resculpted and reimagined" if their track record from Human Sphere to Paradiso is anything to go by.
And really? "Loose ends"?
For "loose ends", let's look at things which are actually needed first. No resculpts unless they can actually fit into a boxed set, like the Wulver Grenadiers are reputed to be done.
An entirely new box of Moiras is pointless and reeks of the typical Corvus Belli thinking of "Chicks sell better than dudes".
Kanluwen wrote: But a Reverend Moiras box before a Mobile Brigada box? A box for an AVA 3 unit(with a whopping four profiles using the Multi Rifle, one with a Multi Rifle+EM Grenade Launcher, an HMG profile, and a Multi Sniper Rifle profile) versus a box for an AVA 6 unit--which does not even have the basic profile available outside of the stupid Nomad Starter Box?
The majority of the profiles being based around the multi rifle isn't really a concern. Look at recent boxes - Druze all 4 with the standard combi-rifle armament, one with a hacker device, one with an LGL attachment, and to mix it up, one without a rifle but carrying a DEP, which they all have. Odalisques - two have the SMG/Contender loadout (though each only showing one of the weapons for variety), a rifle for the Haris leader and a Boarding Shotgun. Briscards have two Marksmen rifles, one Assault Pistol and one Sniper Rifle. Loup Garou have two Viral Rifles, a Boarding Shotgun and an ADHL.
So Moiras having mostly multi rifle profiles, but still two different weapons, doesn't hurt the variation at all. it's actually standard practice with squad boxes to have at least two with a standard weapon, and give the others different weapons. Honestly, I think you're just looking for reasons to not like the box because it's not Corregidor
I'll give you the AVA 3 argument though. A box of 4 for a unit you'll only ever field 3 of maximum seems strange.
I don't have to "look for reasons" to not like the box.
I don't like it. It's going to be another Riot Grrls box, I can almost guarantee it.
And Noir was actually correct as Moiras went to AVA 4 in Campaign: Paradiso.
Does not change the fact though that it's ridiculous that the Reverend Moiras are going to get a unit box before the Mobile Brigada--which has 4 profiles, one of which is a duplicate with the Lieutenant skill added on(Multi Rifle+Light Flamethrower) and an AVA of 6--or before the Intruders, who have 5 profiles(3 duplicates but one missing Grenades, one with an ADHL in addition to Combi Rifle+Light FT, one Multi Sniper, one HMG) and an AVA of 5 to match are even considered for a resculpt/box.
Bakunin has received far too much in terms of the sculpting time. Some of it was necessary when Human Sphere first came out, I won't argue that. But the fact that they've continued to receive so much is just downright silly.
(sorry mate I know you feel pretty strongly about it! I'm sure those models will come in time - I can understand the sculptor wanting to continue on a trend though, while the style is fresh in his mind, as Psychotic Storm says).
Here's Infinity O-12's release schedule for February, directly from Carlos:
- PanO Crusader HMG - Yu Jing Bao Troopers x 4
- Haqq/Mercs Kaplan Tactical Services x 4
- Tohaa Gao-Tarsos--no mention of its loadout
- Ariadna Caledonian Volunteer HMG
March and April:
- ALEPH Penthesilea
- Tohaa Chaksas x 4
- Nomad Moiras x 4
- Shasvastii Haiduk
- PanO Support Box
The Haiduk is getting released before the Corregidor starter box.
Unacceptable.
Oh, and be warned that certain things might potentially not happen--the Chaksas are most likely to reach that.
Ravage has the Gao-Tarsos listed as Combi Rifle.
There's also a rumor that the Nomad weapons are going to be entirely redesigned from the ground up, with the Corregidor starter box as the deadline.
There's also a rumor that the Nomad weapons are going to be entirely redesigned from the ground up, with the Corregidor starter box as the deadline.
Ok.... so... does this mean that the 4 Moira box would have the currently existing weapons? A Moira with HMG with the curretnly existing Nomad HUGE HMG??
Holycrap! Penthesilea! This soon! Excitement!
I really really really really hope they pose her in such a way that she's actually riding the motorcycle in a sleek manner rather than giving into the temptation of posing her as a motorcycle "show babe". Pretty please, CB, make her competent.
Also, did Diomedes just fail his AD and die or something?
Whatever, don't care. Motorcycle >> AD Guy.
Absolutionis wrote: Holycrap! Penthesilea! This soon! Excitement!
I really really really really hope they pose her in such a way that she's actually riding the motorcycle in a sleek manner rather than giving into the temptation of posing her as a motorcycle "show babe". Pretty please, CB, make her competent.
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with Motorcycle-show babes
Kaplan box? Wow can't wait for this one, thought the other concept of the Kaplan was great and would love to be able to paint a team of them up.
Finally, are the Wulver girls not coming yet then presumably? Or are they still in production?
The Wulver girls were not by themselves. They were part of a boxed set, which likely was going to be 2 males and 2 females.
If I had to guess about Diomedes: They're still having problems with the casting of that particular character. This is just screaming "Inquisitor Vindicare" all over again...
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I'm curious what is meant by "March and April". Will there only be one set of releases those two months; there are two boxed sets (maybe 2.5) there, and that's above average. Does it simply mean they're in the unknown what-goes-where realm that Diomedes is currently exploring?
Absolutionis wrote: I'm curious what is meant by "March and April". Will there only be one set of releases those two months; there are two boxed sets (maybe 2.5) there, and that's above average. Does it simply mean they're in the unknown what-goes-where realm that Diomedes is currently exploring?
I think it means that those are just a sampling of the releases, with some room for surprises.
The Haiduk is getting released before the Corregidor starter box.
Unacceptable.
It takes time to re-imagine Corregidor as a force of sexy cat men. Professional soldiers and passionate feline lovers, a bold new concept in table top sci fi factions.
The Haiduk is getting released before the Corregidor starter box.
Unacceptable.
It takes time to re-imagine Corregidor as a force of sexy cat men. Professional soldiers and passionate feline lovers, a bold new concept in table top sci fi factions.
I just laughed and threw up in my mouth at the same time. I pray they don't see that joke and run with it, you had better edit your post right away.
The Haiduk is getting released before the Corregidor starter box.
Unacceptable.
I'd buy them if they did It takes time to re-imagine Corregidor as a force of sexy cat men. Professional soldiers and passionate feline lovers, a bold new concept in table top sci fi factions.
plastictrees wrote: It takes time to re-imagine Corregidor as a force of sexy cat men. Professional soldiers and passionate feline lovers, a bold new concept in table top sci fi factions.
Hmmmm... Kan's hatred of Cat People comes from an irrational fear of them - that picture representing an absolute worse nightmare - after being exposed to Thundercats at too young an age? Think you may be on to something there His Master's Voice
Since then I have sworn vengeance upon all felines and on shadowy nights I don my garb and take to the streets to fight feline crime as Dogman.
Back on topic though (This was at least a fun divergence, full of semi-constructive ridiculousness!):
Apparently the Bao are the last thing that CB is waiting on to be returned for their previews.
Oh my, cat people killing Nazis. I new something was missing from Band of Brothers.
Anyway yeah, my mistress Bakunin has the Praxis Labs and Vaudeville. There is a fair ammoujt of crossover between ships though, they encourage it during Krugs. Kan need not worry but honestly I'd like to see at least one model from Corregidor and one from Tunguska with prominent genetic work or something similar. It makes sense considering the fluff but it gives players the option too. Seems fair.
Except that I agree with you that that model is terrible!
For the most part anyway, it doesn't wind me up to the same degree but I just think its below the quality that I expect from CB. In taste and execution.
Lol, sorry I just can't do it. I just started building a 300pt, all female, Bakunin force and at no point did that model even vaguely cross my mind as a possible option.
I'm okay with catgirls. Not super into them but they're okay in my book. I do agree that the Daktari model as it is now could and should be improved someday, even if it means it'll remain a catgirl. The Uberfalkommando box set contains a female human-animal hybrid that is LOADS better than the Daktari. It is an old sculpt that should be replaced sometime.
Storm, fire me a pm if you want to chat about that or open a thread in the Infinity section, I'll see it before long, on failing that I'll be posting my blog this week.
Well, yah know, I considered going off on a tangent about bananas but I thought it might be rude considering Kan had already brought the Cat Daktari up for a legitimate reason.
I'm a bit late to the party but I love the look of those Tohaa.
Cool hoods? Check.
Cool masks? Check.
Cool alien mix between Grell and Kroot? Check.
Never bought any Infinity or CB models before so have just bought the Gao-Rael sniper to have a sample of the quality etc. Looking forward to unboxing and painting it though. Looks sweet.
I just wish I could actually get the damn starter pack stateside. The only way I've been able to find it has been from the UK or Corvus Belli directly.
The Warstore had the most of them that I saw, but my FS(emi)LGS was only able to get two in and someone grabbed them before I could put aside a day to go out there.
Lol, well this first one is to check out the quality of the sculpt etc. If it's as good as other people have said about the CB range, I am sure I will be buying more. Especially that damn Hatail and his sexy sexy hood.
Interesting 'news' in the comments section of this Doremicon video in Youtube!
TheSustainableCenter wrote:
I think infinity would do really well if they did a bulk package of terrain for a complete 6'x4' board. It would make it simple for stores or gamer to do a 1 click buy in with enough terrain to cover the board and have it be balanced terrain set as well. Currently there pieces are great, but are even surpassing GW's prices for the amount of area you cover, and you need much more of them to play inifinity as opposed to 40k.
doremicom wrote:
This won't be an issue in the near future. I can't go into details now, but this is being addressed outside of Corvus Belli, and the price point will be surprising.
Wouldn't be surprised at all if MAS put together a 'District 5' set with holo boards, 3-4 apartment buildings, 2-3 of the new foam buildings, and a bunch of walls, for a discount.
As long as he looks like an Engineer I guess he would be fine. I love the Ariandna Dozer with the Tracktor Mul control device myself.
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I'm sure there's plenty of good reasons, but when almost all of the figs with a spitfire are not holding it with two hands, it bugs me. I took a quick look and found only 3 out of all of them that have come out.
I'm so glad I play both Yu Jing and Combined Army! That is a great teaser.
