I was going to post "CB makes those ugly bases so people have to buy MAS bases"
But then, I realised that casting those metal base extensions is actually pretty expensive...
So I guess that they are simply stupid instead of greedy+smart corporative witches.
BobbaFett wrote: I was going to post "CB makes those ugly bases so people have to buy MAS bases"
But them I realise that casting those metal base extensions is actually pretty expensive...
So I guess that they are simply stupid instead of greedy+smart corporative witches.
I still don't know wich one is worse.
But the MAS bases don't have built-in extensions either. If anything, the base extensions' lack of texture convinces people to NOT buy MAS bases.
I actually think they are ingenious! I'm not wild about putting them together or making them go with my resin bases, but I love that CB is willing to make a compromise between artistic vision and playability.
If the sculptor has a pose in mind and it doesn't take a scenic 10x10cm base to realize it, I say go for it.
If you don't like that, just convert it!
There are so many miniatures in the range, that are actually not fair/ideal from a gaming pov. I mean seriously ML Noctifer? Alien bait on a stick!
So if you can't take it easy I recommend glueing all your miniatures onto plain bases in a crouching or prone position. After all the sand adds around a millimeter of hight and standing up straight is a huge disadvantage compared to those squating Dasyus and Zeros.
I guess the option is there for converting, or subbing in a different model. Especially if you are really into playing the game, I mean I read a comment once about someone who was considering cutting one of the TAG's limbs up into segments, then removing a few mm from each limb to reduce its LOS footprint!
But I think for people who value the artistic/sculpting side of things above strictly value in a game I guess most people would hope they keep doing what they are doing - let the sculptor get stuck into it, go with whatever vision they have for a miniature, and worry about the other stuff afterwards!
Pacific wrote: I read a comment once about someone who was considering cutting one of the TAG's limbs up into segments, then removing a few mm from each limb to reduce its LOS footprint!
Wow, that guy must be fun to play against... omg what a dill weed!
Edit: Dill weed? So that's what "dighat" turns into...
Pacific wrote: I read a comment once about someone who was considering cutting one of the TAG's limbs up into segments, then removing a few mm from each limb to reduce its LOS footprint!
Wow, that guy must be fun to play against... omg what a dill weed!
Edit: Dill weed? So that's what "dighat" turns into...
If only Beasts of War would hurry the heck up and do their preview, so we can get better quality photos from Angel.
UPDATE:
Angel believes that Beasts of War will do their "On the Table" preview tomorrow, so he'll have his step by step and photos ready as soon as that is up.
I think if the Raicho is out, I'll replace Alpharius and long and pine for the Tikbalang.
Seriously though, I'm a fan of our local myth and folklore. Seeing it in use of a game I like is absolutely amazing for me.
(This is also the reason why I think every Filipino Infinity player w/ CA has/have/will have an Aswang and a Maligno, and every PanO player will get a Tikbalang. It's a requirement.)
The most important think the interview has is that the design process is, what the faction needs or would benefit to have > Stats and Play test > Background > Concept Art > Model been made.
And this is how you make intriguing lists with internal and external balance.
PsychoticStorm wrote: The most important think the interview has is that the design process is, what the faction needs or would benefit to have > Stats and Play test > Background > Concept Art > Model been made.
And this is how you make intriguing lists with internal and external balance.
That's why I liked it. I found that very interesting. I didn't know Carlos didn't play war games before Infinity too! He did RPG's.
In this one Carlos talks about how much Infinity has grown in the US and the company in general.
The Raicho looks awesome! I might have to get that guy for my CA. So far I have only used a Sphinx and only once.
So....... where exactly does the pilot leave his legs
The artwork shows it with a big enough codpiece to maybe/probably fit in the pilot's legs, but the actual model's codpiece doesn't seem to be big enough.
Or is the pilot hanging upside down with his legs in the torso... ?
TBD wrote: So....... where exactly does the pilot leave his legs
The artwork shows it with a big enough codpiece to maybe/probably fit in the pilot's legs, but the actual model's codpiece doesn't seem to be big enough.
In our clamor for the raicho, is this what we have become? Codpiece obsessed madmen?
TBD wrote: So....... where exactly does the pilot leave his legs
The artwork shows it with a big enough codpiece to maybe/probably fit in the pilot's legs, but the actual model's codpiece doesn't seem to be big enough.
In our clamor for the raicho, is this what we have become? Codpiece obsessed madmen?
TBD wrote: So....... where exactly does the pilot leave his legs
The artwork shows it with a big enough codpiece to maybe/probably fit in the pilot's legs, but the actual model's codpiece doesn't seem to be big enough.
In our clamor for the raicho, is this what we have become? Codpiece obsessed madmen?
wow!!!! After last TAGs on tiny legs I wasn't so much excited.... but this one ROCKS!!!!! Awesome miniature. I guess my monkeys have now new deadly toy.... I want it really FAST!!!
Wait, Raicho is a combined army TAG? why would an alien faction produce a TAG that follows the human design ascetic, down to the pilot arms sticking out?
on a more minor pet peeve, why are alien languages always japanese + gibberish?
Well to be fair, Raicho is the only Combined TAG that is close to human design and aesthetics and Morats are not the most advanced of the alien raises that CA has, they are more advanced to humans, but not that much more advanced.
Now, I do not think Morats language is Japanese, it has a similar aesthetic and I can assume its for the same reason why Japanese use Greek letters (usually only lowercase) in their sci fi writings, because it looks "alien" in their eyes.
FantasyBob wrote: At this point, it's clear how Sensei Shirow "tecnology" can influence people who creat (and love!) cyber punk stuff!
Only he didn't put amputees in the drivers seat.
I like the model. It's posed a bit awkwardly, and the gun has a serious issue of BFG, but it's a very solid design that's going to be easy to fix with a saw and a bit of GS.
Mecha_buddha wrote: Wait, Raicho is a combined army TAG? why would an alien faction produce a TAG that follows the human design ascetic, down to the pilot arms sticking out?
on a more minor pet peeve, why are alien languages always japanese + gibberish?
Many of the aliens have human names because what is known about them is from human PoV as well as being unpronounceable. Some don't even use sound as a way to communicate.
Mecha_buddha wrote: Wait, Raicho is a combined army TAG? why would an alien faction produce a TAG that follows the human design ascetic, down to the pilot arms sticking out?
on a more minor pet peeve, why are alien languages always japanese + gibberish?
Many of the aliens have human names because what is known about them is from human PoV as well as being unpronounceable. Some don't even use sound as a way to communicate.
I think he means the writing on the gun CDK... Otherwise though, i agree with both you and PS, its all from the human perspective in terms of naming, and Japanese style symbols are used because they look alien to a Westerner.
The arms are a totally different thing though, i have no idea why a CATAG would have the same baby arms as a human TAG....
It doesn't look like it would be too difficult to leave the pilot's arms off and do some minor conversion work to cover up that area - if the arms really bother anyone.
Mecha_buddha wrote: Wait, Raicho is a combined army TAG? why would an alien faction produce a TAG that follows the human design ascetic, down to the pilot arms sticking out?
on a more minor pet peeve, why are alien languages always japanese + gibberish?
Many of the aliens have human names because what is known about them is from human PoV as well as being unpronounceable. Some don't even use sound as a way to communicate.
I think he means the writing on the gun CDK...
There is no Japanese on the gun. Two of the characters vaguely resemble hiragana 'u', there is a character that looks fairly close to a 'ro', and there is a character that looks somewhat like an incomplete 'ta', but all of them would get red marks from any J101 teacher for being written incorrectly. It's not Japanese on the gun, I suspect you're just registering it as Japanese because it looks vaguely alien to you.
JOHIRA wrote: There is no Japanese on the gun. Two of the characters vaguely resemble hiragana 'u', there is a character that looks fairly close to a 'ro', and there is a character that looks somewhat like an incomplete 'ta', but all of them would get red marks from any J101 teacher for being written incorrectly. It's not Japanese on the gun, I suspect you're just registering it as Japanese because it looks vaguely alien to you.
*shrug* i mentioned the gun as it was the only writing i could remember seeing on the model, im not really bothered either way as to what language is used to represent made up alien writing....
A vocal minority on the Spanish forums do, and like the majority of the "Bring back Squats!" people--you'll never meet one in person who'll own up to it.
Actually not so small a bit international, quite vocal for sure and with heavy supporters between then, Angel for example been one and Bostria iirc been another.
I'm really tired of furries showing up in every danged sci-fi universe. They even put them in 40k with the last update!
I know they were there before I got into infinity but I was hoping their influence on Ariadna stayed rather small, but the "specials" get what they want I guess. Here's hoping the rules for them stink so they don't start showing en masse in my local meta.
It can be "a bit international" and still have its roots on the Spanish forum, PS.
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Mr.Church13 wrote: I'm really tired of flurries showing up in every danged sci-fi universe. They even put them in 40k with the last update!
I know they were there before I got into infinity but I was hoping their influence on Ariadna stayed rather small, but the "specials" get what they want I guess. Here's hoping the rules for them stink so they don't start showing en masse in my local meta.
Look in "Human Sphere". They already exist, Wulver Grenadiers.
Mr.Church13 wrote:I'm really tired of furries showing up in every danged sci-fi universe. They even put them in 40k with the last update!
I know they were there before I got into infinity but I was hoping their influence on Ariadna stayed rather small, but the "specials" get what they want I guess. Here's hoping the rules for them stink so they don't start showing en masse in my local meta.
Well you know the rules for them they are wulvers nothing more nothing less, beyond both sexes been present now.
Kanluwen wrote:It can be "a bit international" and still have its roots on the Spanish forum, PS.
Of course, I just say they got support form the international forum too, so its not just a small minority in the Spanish forum, its a minority in both forums!
Ariadna isn't all about furries though. The Wulvers are Caledonian where dogfaces are common.
Merovingians, on the other hand, shoot dogs and have an entire group (Loup-Garous - "Werewolves") dedicated to hunting and killing them. The Kazaks enslave the antipodes.
The sexually deviant Nomads are the ones that genetically mess with themselves in order to make themselves furries, and even then that's just Bakunin.
One of my favorite things about the factions is that unlike many other universes, there is great variety in the ideology and methodology within the factions themselves... without outright descending into a civil war.
Ultimately, though, count me as one of the furry-haters.
Absolutionis wrote: Ariadna isn't all about furries though. The Wulvers are Caledonian where dogfaces are common.
Merovingians, on the other hand, shoot dogs and have an entire group (Loup-Garous - "Werewolves") dedicated to hunting and killing them. The Kazaks enslave the antipodes.
What's more, the Wulvers aren't even really "furries" when you boil it down. They are soldiers. I actually LIKED the way they did the two existing Wulver Grenadiers.
Alpharius wrote:...to Kanluwen.
I'm guessing that when they look at their Sales figures, they see spikes for female figures.
Maybe this is because a lot of their sales go to painters who aren't gamers? Or for some other reason... male wargamers like female models?
Anyway, I'm sure that it makes sense for CB from a sales perspective too, so, there is that!
If that were the case, then we'd be seeing the female figure by itself.
We are not. It is going to be part of the Wulver BOX SET.
That is an entire boxed set slot for January gone for a "resculpt"(the Wulver Grenadier with Mk. IV) and a new sculpt (female Wulver). Presumably, the Shotgun variant will be in the box as it is the only missing Wulver profile.
Huh. I was under the impression that this was going to be a box full of Werewolf Women of the S.S. and not just alternative models for wulvers. I play Ariadna with no wulvers at all so while I was aware that Human Sphere had them it doesn't make me want to use them or look at them.
Also it makes people really mad for some reason when you chop off wulvers weapons and toss out the models from a sectorial starter. I find it quite entertaining how defensive furries get.
Absolutionis wrote: Ariadna isn't all about furries though. The Wulvers are Caledonian where dogfaces are common.
Merovingians, on the other hand, shoot dogs and have an entire group (Loup-Garous - "Werewolves") dedicated to hunting and killing them. The Kazaks enslave the antipodes.
What's more, the Wulvers aren't even really "furries" when you boil it down. They are soldiers. I actually LIKED the way they did the two existing Wulver Grenadiers.
Alpharius wrote:...to Kanluwen.
I'm guessing that when they look at their Sales figures, they see spikes for female figures.
Maybe this is because a lot of their sales go to painters who aren't gamers? Or for some other reason... male wargamers like female models?
Anyway, I'm sure that it makes sense for CB from a sales perspective too, so, there is that!
If that were the case, then we'd be seeing the female figure by itself.
We are not. It is going to be part of the Wulver BOX SET.
That is an entire boxed set slot for January gone for a "resculpt"(the Wulver Grenadier with Mk. IV) and a new sculpt (female Wulver). Presumably, the Shotgun variant will be in the box as it is the only missing Wulver profile.
And what better way to 'force' people to buy a BOX SET, and then consider starting another faction?
So, no, I think your reasoning is still off, and CB knows exactly what they're doing by releasing this as a BOX SET!
Like I said, CB knows what they're doing - in fact, IF the models are good enough, I might start an Ariadna Caledonian faction!
Right now, I've only got a Merovingian faction.
They clearly have access to sales data, and are looking for ways to get people to buy more/expand.
I'm thinking they might know more than you do about their business, though I suppose there is an infinitesimal small chance that I'm wrong about that...
Like I said, CB knows what they're doing - in fact, IF the models are good enough, I might start an Ariadna Caledonian faction!
I doubt it would simply be because a set of models which you can only have 4 of (at best) is good.
At least, for most people.
Right now, I've only got a Merovingian faction.
You have one of practically everything.
They clearly have access to sales data, and are looking for ways to get people to buy more/expand.
I'm thinking they might know more than you do about their business, though I suppose there is an infinitesimal small chance that I'm wrong about that...
I hate to break it to you, but the larger reason why it is a "box" rather than a blister is the continuation of their "Boxed Sets over Blisters" shift.
IIrc from the discussion we had so far its a box with 4 models all new, I presume two female and two male wulvers two bodies and enough arms to make 4 different models.
After my disappointment from playing 40k as three non-Imperial, non-SpaceMarine factions, I've become accustomed to miniatures companies wasting their time on exorbitant amounts of what I perceive as fanservice - except this time it's burly, muscular men and one some furries.
I've just learned to accept it. Corvus Belli is at least great at it. Maybe next month they'll release Penthesilea and her Aleph motorcycle; it's a reasonable hope. I've been casually waiting through years of burly brodudemarine releases for a Farseer on a Jetbike.
Whenever Corvus Belli releases something that doesn't interest me, I shrug. More often than not, however, they entire me with a new release that makes me way to start a new faction.
Long story short, some people like furries and they uncoincidentally like buying furry models. Corvus Belli will make one one day.
Absolutionis wrote: After my disappointment from playing 40k as three non-Imperial, non-SpaceMarine factions, I've become accustomed to miniatures companies wasting their time on exorbitant amounts of what I perceive as fanservice - except this time it's burly, muscular men and one some furries.
I've just learned to accept it. Corvus Belli is at least great at it. Maybe next month they'll release Penthesilea and her Aleph motorcycle; it's a reasonable hope. I've been casually waiting through years of burly brodudemarine releases for a Farseer on a Jetbike.
Whenever Corvus Belli releases something that doesn't interest me, I shrug. More often than not, however, they entire me with a new release that makes me way to start a new faction.
Long story short, some people like furries and they uncoincidentally like buying furry models. Corvus Belli will make one one day.
This is more to the point and probably correct, were Kanluwen is upset about a lack of a certain box set that he really wants...
Lots of CAPS in Kan's word, since the italics prohibition was put in place.
I'm beginning to think we might need to expand some of the no-no's now!
I do agree with you that the Corregidor Starter Box would make more sense that a Riot Grrls one, but then, the Riot Grrls one sort of proves my earlier point too...
They could just get a 3-man blister instead of a boxed set.
Dakini and Ghulam are in their respective starters and a 3-man blister and they're all fine. It's not too bad of a deal either with them being a core soldier offered in bulk with the typical rifle or singular with a special weapon. They're all great models with the Dakini especially beig full of many parts and fiddly bits (shinguards).
I'd imagine the new Thorakitai will be getting a blister as well, soon.
3-man blisters work out better than the awkward scenarios like the Merovingian Starter or the Acontecimento Starter that contain 3 out of 4 of the "core" soldier. You'd have to buy a set containing a duplicate in order to get that last missing model.
Kanluwen wrote: I would be nowhere near as annoyed were it not for the fact that we are getting a "Riot Grrls" box set this month and Wulvers the following month.
Penthesilea and her Alephocycle are NOT January releases. Phoenix is for ALEPH.
So what would the difference be if there were two other boxes you didn't want or like?
Kanluwen wrote: I would be nowhere near as annoyed were it not for the fact that we are getting a "Riot Grrls" box set this month and Wulvers the following month.
Penthesilea and her Alephocycle are NOT January releases. Phoenix is for ALEPH.
So what would the difference be if there were two other boxes you didn't want or like?
I agree with PsychoticStorm here. A selfcentredness seems to be driving your opposition to the WulverGirls. Do I want to buy the WulverGirls? No, I don't usually go in for furries. Do I resent them coming out before, say, a Druze Spitfire? No, because I don't feel that CB has to cater to my own personal tastes every time. There is, after all, a lot of different people who play this game. So that is why everyone else has no problem with the Wulvergirls, since clearly people do want them, because we're all expecting that we'll get something that we do want in due course.
No images, but just a promise of a step-by-step...
So easy to take a guess who Kanluwen is on Facebook.
But on topic: I don't mind them releasing whatever they feel will sell well. Think of it like this: Wulver Girls will finance a Hassasin Barid or some Doctors that people were asking for.
3-man blisters work out better than the awkward scenarios like the Merovingian Starter or the Acontecimento Starter that contain 3 out of 4 of the "core" soldier. You'd have to buy a set containing a duplicate in order to get that last missing model.
This is correct. Some miniatures are trapped in some 2 figure blisters. The Caledonian female Volunteer, the Acontecimento Regular with Spitfire,the keisotsu with light grenade launcher, the moderador from Bakunin with the lolipop...
There is no way A player can buy an starter pack an then try to get one of those models without having an extra repeated figure. CB should release light infantry boxes with all the extra weapon options apart from the usual combi rifles that are available in the stater packs.
No images, but just a promise of a step-by-step...
So easy to take a guess who Kanluwen is on Facebook.
Shhhhhh...
I would like to note that it DID get results, in the form of a promise for a "Step by Step" on the Briscards AND Corregidor starter boxes.
But on topic: I don't mind them releasing whatever they feel will sell well. Think of it like this: Wulver Girls will finance a Hassasin Barid or some Doctors that people were asking for.
Them releasing things that sell well is great, I just wish they'd avoid stereotypical conventions in their models.
Make their world theirs, not simply a blending of existing ideas.
I was thinking if I can somehow combine the Raicho and Scarface's parts (mostly the guns and the head)? I like the general look of the Raicho but I can't use it in game and most of the CA models don't really appeal to me, so I was thinking maybe use it as Scarface for QK?
heartserenade wrote: I was thinking if I can somehow combine the Raicho and Scarface's parts (mostly the guns and the head)? I like the general look of the Raicho but I can't use it in game and most of the CA models don't really appeal to me, so I was thinking maybe use it as Scarface for QK?
SACRILEGE!!!
Also, in that preview picture, is that a bunch of Riot Grrls, or something else?
Kroothawk wrote: Are there extra hands just above the codpiece? What is their function?
No room for legs of the pilot but a copilot to protect the privates???
Already noted this one or two pages ago
I guess the Morat who lose their legs in combat get to pilot a Raicho!
Should be (hopefully) easily fixed by leaving the little arms off.
I like the arms. It grounds the thing in reality and still looks fine.
I don't think an extended crotch would have looked nice on a proud-warrior-race death-machine.
So according to Angel, the four models are NOT Tohaa.
That style of basing is used for four armies:
The Tohaa, painted a bit differently but he generally starts with that coloration.
The Combined Army, with again a different paintjob but started with that coloration.
Ariadna, same thing.
Yu Jing has that exact coloration and style.
Kanluwen wrote: So according to Angel, the four models are NOT Tohaa.
That style of basing is used for four armies:
The Tohaa, painted a bit differently but he generally starts with that coloration.
The Combined Army, with again a different paintjob but started with that coloration.
Ariadna, same thing.
Yu Jing has that exact coloration and style.
Interesting....
I guess if one of them is a Riot Grrl then they must all be, as they are coming in a boxset?
Pose similarity made me wonder if he was repainting a spitfire grrl to match her new boxmates? But most of me hopes I'm wrong and we get four new chicas entirely ...
Though yes the finished BJC bases are entirely differently modeled. Merhaps it's the Shasii Caliban set? In which case they're disturbingly upright
Facebook chatter suggests it's the Wulver crew ...
Weren't there a few Nomad models painted again - or at least rebased - to match the BJC basing once it hit? Thinking of the chick zero here & here. Or is that just digital?
Boss Salvage wrote: Weren't there a few Nomad models painted again - or at least rebased - to match the BJC basing once it hit? Thinking of the chick zero here & here. Or is that just digital?
But yes, I was grasping
- Salvage
It might be digital. They have done similar things before. With miniatures with different options, I've seen in Angel's blog miniatures fully painted and next to it the same model with a different gear, fully primed, but only with the different parts painted.
Boss Salvage wrote: Weren't there a few Nomad models painted again - or at least rebased - to match the BJC basing once it hit? Thinking of the chick zero here & here. Or is that just digital?
But yes, I was grasping
- Salvage
It might be digital. They have done similar things before. With miniatures with different options, I've seen in Angel's blog miniatures fully painted and next to it the same model with a different gear, fully primed, but only with the different parts painted.
My understanding is that he tends to paint things with interchangeable parts in components. I could have swore he had made a comment to that effect when the first batch of SpecOps was on his painting blog.
I do know, however, that he has said he never puts old models into these "preview" shots. Add to it that the Spitfire Riot Grrl would have been given a base to match the box to begin with if they were changing the look and that the Spitfire Riot Grrl will not be part of the boxed set and it makes it less and less likely that it is the Riot Grrls.
Angel said in Facebook something like "you don't pay attention, that's not the way I do Tohaa bases!".
So they might be Wulvers or Briscards...
Edit: A message from Bostria: the pics of December's new releases (Raicho, Riot Grrls, Makaul...) won't be uploaded until Monday 24th, or Wednesday 26th as the worst. Having many boxes this month is making them work very hard.
Erasoketa wrote: Angel said in Facebook something like "you don't pay attention, that's not the way I do Tohaa bases!".
So they might be Wulvers or Briscards...
Edit: A message from Bostria: the pics of December's new releases (Raicho, Riot Grrls, Makaul...) won't be uploaded until Monday 24th, or Wednesday 26th as the worst. Having many boxes this month is making them work very hard.
I've waited this long, I can wait a bit longer...
But I do want to get that order for a Raicho in soon!
I probably should remind you guys one thing: December 28th is the Spanish equivalent to April's Fools. So don't trust any "official" news from the Spanish companies published that day. Corvus Belli, Knight Models, Kensei...
BTW is it still correct that you just email contactus@corvusbelli.com if a part is missing and they react immediately? A friend of mine contacted them more than a week ago and no reply or reaction.
Kroothawk wrote: BTW is it still correct that you just email contactus@corvusbelli.com if a part is missing and they react immediately? A friend of mine contacted them more than a week ago and no reply or reaction.
It's what I did for the only time I've needed to. They responded immediately and had the new bits out within 4 days.
Kroothawk wrote: BTW is it still correct that you just email contactus@corvusbelli.com if a part is missing and they react immediately? A friend of mine contacted them more than a week ago and no reply or reaction.
It's what I did for the only time I've needed to. They responded immediately and had the new bits out within 4 days.
Same here, I had that problem once, and in about three days I got it. Maybe they just missed the mail. Your friend should try again.
Good to know - maybe we should start a thread in the INFINITY Forum about this?
Could be helpful for future generations, while at the same time not making me think there's been an update in here containing pictures of all of December's new releases!
I like the running pose, I don't like i the weapon in each hand, while spriting down the feild. Hard enough to keep from cutting yourself with the sword held like that, yet alone shoot the gun.
eh he does look a bit like he is prancing, but as Kan pointed out the power armor could be locked into any position. The arm has a stable firing platform and the sword could be locked into a safety position while running.
That being said, the sword would look way better sheathed.
I like dynamic if done at least somewhat sensibly. Maybe if there was something on the base to show him stepping over it would make more sense.
I think it could be easily converted to just cut the sword off to have nothing in the hand and put the sword at his side or back. It would need a new pommel though.
I think if you just rolled him forward so that the HMG was completely horizontal you'd have a much more convincing running pose.
He definitely isn't Minuteman bad.
the weapons in Infinty are finally been done in scale, so expect smaller leaner weapons in more realistic proportions to the models carrying it and yes that means the weapons in the hands of HI models, that are far bigger than a human in combat fatigues inevitably look small in their hands.
The pose would be considerably improved by a bit of lean, either forwards or to one side (or both slightly forwards and to one side). It's the seeming balancing that makes the pose look ridiculous, rather than dynamic.
Depending on the terrain you use, you could lean it forward and have it kicking up some dirt/dust/sand. It made my tiptoed Ragik and Ekdromoi look much better.
If it's any comfort to you, melee doesn't happen in Infinity very often.
Some, like that Knight, are heavily armored and their melee weapons aid them.
Some, like Myrmidons, have a ton of optical distortion or hand grenades to get them into melee.
Some, like Ninjas/Oniwaban, have TO Camo to get them into melee.
Some, like Fidays, impersonate the enemy to get in close.
Each time, the model also has a gun. There are almost no dedicated melee-only troops in the game. There are only well-trained models that can excel at melee, but you'd prefer to shoot with them anyways. If you charge at an enemy into melee, they will be able to shoot at you first, and considering you're out of cover, it's not a good idea at all times.
Ok, just, picture yourself as an Infinity soldier.
You have a sword and you have trained with your sword so much that you are deadly with it. But, you are also a soldier, and you have trained with your shotgun also.
You know what your sword can do.
Not being super familiar with the rules, I assumed from the pose this guy was a drop trooper. That would explain the toe position. I don't like the sword though- actually the way he is holding it for a split second before I registered it as a sword I thought, "He's dangling from a drop vehicle by a beam of energy?"
This is a rare less-than-great for Infinity. Still not bad, but not up to their usual standards. He looks too much like he's mimicking "This is what's in my left hand, this is what's in my right hand" poses from other games companies. And he shouldn't.
Melee in Infinity is not that predominant, some troops may engage in it but it is order draining and still risky enough, usually even CQB specialized troops like the Ninjas and Myrmidons will engage in shooting.
Fafnir wrote: Hey, at least it's better than "Baby's first steps" Belial.
While this is true, I'd like to think "better than GW" is a bar set a little low for CB. Aspire for that and they may as well aspire to "don't poke your eye out with the sculpting tool".
PsychoticStorm wrote: the weapons in Infinty are finally been done in scale, so expect smaller leaner weapons in more realistic proportions to the models carrying it and yes that means the weapons in the hands of HI models, that are far bigger than a human in combat fatigues inevitably look small in their hands.
It certainly doesn't look that way from the Raicho HMG. It should be at least half the size. All the TAGHMGs are way too big. If they at least had a good reason for being that size it would make sense. I suppose there could be unplayable reasons. Like they have a coolant system so the barrels don't melt, they have larger ammo capacity, etc.
I will say though that it would be nice if they make the weapons closer to real. People are going to need to get used to them is all. Especially 40k players who are used to over-sized guns.
Kanluwen wrote: Out of curiousity, what 40k guns are really oversized?
um, all of them? If they were closer to reality they'd be probably half the size. Hell, can you imagine the shell that goes into one of those tanks?!! They couldn't even store the shell in the hold!
Fafnir wrote: Pretty much every single infantry gun, really.
See, I know most of the tanks (Predator autocannons being the exception for whatever reason) but I do not think a lot of the infantry guns are "overscaled".
Actually the Autocannon on a predator is about the size of a real tank cannon.
I'm not sure about the lasgun myself but the bolt gun would have shells the size of a shotgun shell or bigger. The true scale makes more sense. Notice the head and gun are the same size? Still, where the hell does he keep the ammo?
Ever see a true scale space marine. There's some pics on dakka.
I've seen plenty of true scales. What I haven't ever seen are true scales addressing the ammo problem and where they manage to make the bolter look in proportion to the artwork we have of them.
Bolters are not pistols. They are fired two-handed. And the boltshells are pretty big.
Imagine how big a shell of the bolter should be in relation with the bolter's muzzle. Then imagine how many shells would fit in that teeny magazine. I estimate 5, maybe ten at the most. And imagine that bolters are always portrayed being rapidfired.
Anyway, I'm happy with CB doing a bit of a change to the guns. I think gun on the new Knight is great but I'm not into the pose that much. I'd rather the sword be at his side or back and have both hands on the gun. At least then he'd look like he's running.
I'm not familiar with the unit: is he equipped with another gun via the rules? I think it may look decent if you cut off the sword and hilt, make him hold another gun (from a SpecOp box), then sling the sword on his back or put it on the base.
Well as far as Raicho multi HMG goes I have two theories, either a ridiculously huge internal ammo mags as per background, or a really serious case of overcompensation.
CDK wrote: Actually the Autocannon on a predator is about the size of a real tank cannon.
I'm not sure about the lasgun myself but the bolt gun would have shells the size of a shotgun shell or bigger. The true scale makes more sense. Notice the head and gun are the same size? Still, where the hell does he keep the ammo?
Ever see a true scale space marine. There's some pics on dakka.
They fire .75 calibre bullets. This is pretty big. Look at the size of a 0.5 calibre gun. I'd say a boltgun is rather undersized.
heartserenade wrote: I'm not familiar with the unit: is he equipped with another gun via the rules? I think it may look decent if you cut off the sword and hilt, make him hold another gun (from a SpecOp box), then sling the sword on his back or put it on the base.
That is a rather fantastic idea! You can imagine him then doing some kind of 'Aeon Flux' style shooting people on both sides of him at the same time (which of course he can do because of his cool, sci-fi helmet )
There's a thread about FRPgames already, but I thought I'd specifically point out that they have the Paradiso campaign book on sale not just for for $41.99 USD, but they also have their end of the world sale for another 50% off through the end of the week, making the book $21 plus shipping. Just ordered one myself and they have 7 more listed at that price at the time of this posting, good opportunity to pick up the newest book on the cheap if you haven't already
Kalamadea wrote: There's a thread about FRPgames already, but I thought I'd specifically point out that they have the Paradiso campaign book on sale not just for for $41.99 USD, but they also have their end of the world sale for another 50% off through the end of the week, making the book $21 plus shipping. Just ordered one myself and they have 7 more listed at that price at the time of this posting, good opportunity to pick up the newest book on the cheap if you haven't already
Kalamadea wrote: There's a thread about FRPgames already, but I thought I'd specifically point out that they have the Paradiso campaign book on sale not just for for $41.99 USD, but they also have their end of the world sale for another 50% off through the end of the week, making the book $21 plus shipping. Just ordered one myself and they have 7 more listed at that price at the time of this posting, good opportunity to pick up the newest book on the cheap if you haven't already
When I initially checked they had all of 5 or 6 Infinity items in that sale...
More importantly, isn't today supposed to be Show Us December's Releases Day?!?
Some of the Spanish forum visiters mentioned it will probably be delayed until boxing day due to a lack of time. Looking forward to seeing the Makaul boxset as I've just picked up all the Tohaa. I'll almost certainly be picking them up along wiht the Sekban.
Those Riot Grrls look awful. Like, I expected them to be bad...but that is a step worse. The only positive thing I can say about them is that they have properly scaled guns.
The Makaul and Phoenix look good though. Interesting that Phoenix is the December release, since he was supposed to be pushed back to January for Diomedes to be the December release.
I agree, not a fan at all of the riot grrls, but they match the style of the first one. They also match the fluff of the eccentric Bakuinin punk girls in heavy armor. Win some, lose some lol.
Riot Grrlls; not a fan of the colour scheme, but just love the anime-style sculpt. Is one of them flipping the bird? Might be cool to give each of them a different, bright colour scheme and some logo-branding to keep with their character.
Raicho: Absolute badass, not sure what else I can say about it really! The model looks scary (imagining this thing stomping round the corner towards your line infantry!), exactly as it should do, and that's before you've seen the stat-line!
Sekban: Lovely, understated pose (shows not everything has to be screaming with both arms at 90 degrees!) Someone said before that he's walking cool-ly away from an explosion, which I think fits pretty well! Phoenix - nice, more 'human' looking Aleph sculpt for those who like that conception of things. The details on his pouches/bandoliers, and just the self-assured 'walk' he is doing makes this actually my 'dark horse' favourite sculpt of the month!
Hospitaller - As has been said, not a massive fan of the pose. Although as Hearts Serenda said (I think?) will definitely look better with a john-woo style 2nd gun in place of that sword.
Makaul - Haven't looked at their rules, but they are some kind of shock-troops right? The posing and stance of these guys is absolutely full of aggression, with almost a martial-artist esq style to them? Really like them and again a stunning level of detail.
So overall top marks for this month, and the Sekban has got me excited about what their boxset might look like!
BlueDagger wrote: I agree, not a fan at all of the riot grrls, but they match the style of the first one. They also match the fluff of the eccentric Bakuinin punk girls in heavy armor. Win some, lose some lol.
The other releases however look great.
And you know, that is actually another thing bugging me about the Riot Grrls.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! Why is the only difference in two with ridiculous hats?
Those Makaul are seriously tempting me to buy a Tohaa force with the money I get from housesitting over the holidays...
Yeah, not a fan of the design of the Riot Grrls to start with and these dont fix that with cool poses.
Are these by the same sculptor as the spitfire Riot Grrrl? They seem more stiff and awkward.
Makaul look very cool. Sekban still looks great, will be picking him up ASAP, especially now that I'm on a "painted one model in the last six months" roll.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! Why is the only difference in two with ridiculous hats?
Those Makaul are seriously tempting me to buy a Tohaa force with the money I get from housesitting over the holidays...
If they had just extended the leg armor style over the whole body instead of the raw muscle undersuit thing there would be a lot more options to make them unique and individual. That goes back to my Tank Girl/ Akira's Bike expectations, which might be unfair.
Ditto on the Tohaa suddenly being more appealing. A few more releases like these and they might become my second faction.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! Why is the only difference in two with ridiculous hats?
Those Makaul are seriously tempting me to buy a Tohaa force with the money I get from housesitting over the holidays...
If they had just extended the leg armor style over the whole body instead of the raw muscle undersuit thing there would be a lot more options to make them unique and individual. That goes back to my Tank Girl/ Akira's Bike expectations, which might be unfair.
To be blunt, I think that "raw muscle undersuit" look would have worked if they had used it for just the one model and then done a bit of individualization on the others. They clearly tried with the Boarding Shotgun/MULTI Rifle Riot Grrls by making it so you see their faces and they each have some kind of "unique" bit for their helmets.
Ditto on the Tohaa suddenly being more appealing. A few more releases like these and they might become my second faction.
The good news is we're basically guaranteed Tohaa and Steel Phalanx releases for a bit yet with the Nomads, Combined Army, Ariadna, PanOceania, Yu Jing, and Haqqislam/Mercenaries being the ones up for "getting benched" for a release slot since Steel Phalanx and Tohaa need to get bulked out for Campaign: Paradiso.
Ill be the one really liking them then, that been said I am not terribly thrilled with the ponytail's head ornament and the knife.
The Hospitaler is sadly the weakest of the releases, nice sculpt not thrilled with the pose, a bit disappointed with Phoenix having a sword, although I should be expecting it, I would rather had him pointing the next unfortunate receiver with his finger.
I really think that those Tohaa Makauls look much better than the Starter pack. Maybe this box is the one I'll buy.
Infinity elves, that are more like Asari from Mass Effect... wich are also some kind of Elves, you know... like the Eldar... or like the ones from Hellboy 2...
I think the Grrrls could work with more punk-y colors, like predominant black with pink accents. I kinda want one box just to get the hand flipping the bird and transplant it to my Odalisque.
The Riot Grrls are genuinely bad, maybe the first bad Infinity Sculpt. For me it's the armor nipples that ruins them. I could understand if one Grrl decided to mold them on her armor as some kind of punk thing, but everyone? Nope, sorry, swing and a miss.
Apart from the Hospitaller pose (that we discussed earlier) being a little bad (not ruining the model, but not up to the usual Infinity standard) it's a solid batch. The Raicho is making it hard to resist starting a Morat force.
BlueDagger wrote: I agree, not a fan at all of the riot grrls, but they match the style of the first one. They also match the fluff of the eccentric Bakuinin punk girls in heavy armor. Win some, lose some lol.
The other releases however look great.
And you know, that is actually another thing bugging me about the Riot Grrls.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! Why is the only difference in two with ridiculous hats?
Well the armor part is because they are a still a unit, so they have standardized armor that was developed for them. That is a bit like asking why Swat wears the same armor, it's the most protective for their role. I'd say the character of the unit could easily be flaunted with a different paint job.
BlueDagger wrote: I agree, not a fan at all of the riot grrls, but they match the style of the first one. They also match the fluff of the eccentric Bakuinin punk girls in heavy armor. Win some, lose some lol.
The other releases however look great.
And you know, that is actually another thing bugging me about the Riot Grrls.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! Why is the only difference in two with ridiculous hats?
Well the armor part is because they are a still a unit, so they have standardized armor that was developed for them. That is a bit like asking why Swat wears the same armor, it's the most protective for their role. I'd say the character of the unit could easily be flaunted with a different paint job.
That's not "armor" they're wearing though. That's their undersuit.
It's like if SWAT went to work wearing just their uniform with some shoulderpads, kneepads, combat boots, and helmets on. Why leave the torso so unprotected?
The real ridiculous part is they have a really heavily armored rear torso...but not the part facing the enemy? What are they doing, walking at the enemy backwards? Constantly running away?
It's silly trying to justify the lack of torso armor on them. Especially for a unit which is supposed to be so heavily invested in the idea of "individualism".
I would have preferred the Riot Grrls to have salvaged armor from other units assembled together in a rather competent manner. Perhaps even some Myrmidon or Posthuman parts as a recent trophy.
Part of the punk culture is a DIY philosophy, and that would have fit the Nomads that well.
There is individualism and there is who pays for the armour and it is not them.
They are wearing the muscle suit that all powered armoured troops wear under the plating and the "armoured nipples" are nothing more than the fibermuscle attachment points, I don't get why the same attachment points in the hips do not raise similar reaction.
Now why the torso is bare, who knows maybe for hyperdynamics, maybe not.
"Who pays for the armour" is not really relevant, since the Riot Grrls are equipped by "the best of the female blacksmiths of the Vulkanja Module".
The ones in the hips do raise a similar reaction, but with proper torso armor associated with the armor on the back of the torso the "fibermuscle attachment points"(which I'd love to see a source on this one, since it's super convenient that they just so happen to look like nipples and genitalia) would not be an issue as they would be covered up.
The butt armor is a seperate piece and rather thin, so easy to bend. I'm thinking that if you turn it upside down and wrap it around the stomach you can then bend the points to curve up under the bust and cover the nips.
Already assembled my spitfire model and really don't mind the nipple armor.
Well just to be clear the sculptor nailed the concept art, so you'd have to attribute the "feel" all the way back to the design phase if you don't care for it.
I don't know what you guys are talking about. I love the Riot Grrls! OMG I love the one giving the finger.
If you don't like the nips, just put a little putty on them so they are not as pronounced. They look pretty punk to me. Remember they are still soldiers and changing your armor just for looks is dumb. They still look pretty individual to me. These might get me to do Nomads for sure.
If I start a Nomads force I'd buy one box of Riot Grrrls for the challenge of making them look more punk and well, easier on the eyes. Combination of paintjob and some conversion, perhaps. This is the only thing I miss from GW: customization of models. CB produces such beautiful miniatures that usually I find that I wouldn't do the model justice if I convert them (and plus they have fewer customizable parts, and they're in metal). At least with these girls I wouldn't feel that I'm making them uglier.
CDK wrote: I don't know what you guys are talking about. I love the Riot Grrls! OMG I love the one giving the finger.
If you don't like the nips, just put a little putty on them so they are not as pronounced. They look pretty punk to me. Remember they are still soldiers and changing your armor just for looks is dumb. They still look pretty individual to me. These might get me to do Nomads for sure.
There are plenty of ways where the armor could have been changed "just for looks" and not been dumb. As it stands though, it just looks incomplete and like nothing a soldier would wear.
Every part of their body except for their front torso is armored.
CDK wrote: And the Moria has a bare butt and has an ARM 3! Don't let reality get into this or your are always going to be in for a world of hurt lol.
Depends on how you paint it. One coat of armor-matching paint and the Moiras suddenly have glutarmor.
One coat of modest paint turns the Wet T-Shirt Caledonian Volunteer into someone worthy of ARM 1.
And you know, that is actually another thing bugging me about the Riot Grrls.
They're supposed to be "eccentric punks" right? So why in the hell are they all wearing the same armor?! .
As Hearts Serenade says, I think they might look awesome when 'punkized' - give them some multi-coloured armour (a mix of bright, primary colours). Add as much detail as possible in the form of graffiti, presonalisation, even some small logos (I'm already imagining a 'Canon' one )
Anyway I can really see the potential here, although it remains to be seen whether my painting is up to the task and it ends up looking gak regardless
There's not even really much you can do(in my opinion at least) colorwise for the armor on the Riot Grrls.
Why? Because the bodysuits are what your eye will be immediately drawn to because of the texturing and the fact that they dominate the torso. Your eye will take in the armor plates as part of the whole, not as individual components I think.
It's kind of like the PanOceanian Military Orders. You can do multiple shades of armor but the tabards are going to draw the attention of the eye more because again they dominate the torso.
Loved the first Grrl but these four are really rough lookin' to my eyes. I've still got the Spitfire blister to turn into my Sin Eater though, as I say, she is a great model.
d-usa wrote: I wonder if doing a silver paint on the armor and giving each model a wash with a different color ink (red/green/blue) would give them some variety.
That right there is a -great- idea.
The main problem with the Grrls IMO is the static poses. The legs look too uniform.
Even with all the problems (or maybe becuase of them), this set would make great conversion material. Reposing the legs on two or three of them (visors down and the finger-flipper, maybe) to capture the high-speed movement one would expect of Hyperdynamics would go a long way towards redeeming them. You could also add slightly-more-interesting affectations, like more hair on the finger-flipper's pigtails and maybe some voodoo dolls, scalps, and other Tank-Girl-esque features to each Grrl.
Frankly the Infinity community really lacks for great conversions, compared to the 40K community. If someone could make this potentially-cool unit shine by making a few alterations, it would probably be inspiring to many other modellers out there.
When I start Nomads (probably a year from now or so given my slow progress on Yu Jing painting) I'm totally gonna take a set of these Grrls to the workbench for a while. They could be so cool with just a little hacking and greenstuff!
Regarding all the other figs... Makaul are AWESOME. Comparing them to the Grrls it becomes even clearer that what makes really great Infinity sculpts stand out from the rest of the line (which is still good stuff) is often the pose.
...not a fan of the Raicho though (I know I'm in the minority there). Ditch the shoulder-shield (removable I see), shorten the gun, and grind off/armor over the hair and it's got some potential. but the details are too OTT even for Morats.
A big reason for the "lack of great conversions" is that the sculpts and the medium do not really allow for it.
Not every person wants to/is capable of doing a beautiful conversion or can shell out the money for the parts. A great example of this is the SpecOps models and the alternate heads they have, which people are in love with for the most part (the Vortex helmeted SpecOps head and the Indigo helmeted head as well being two of the biggest ones I've seen going around as "wants").
Not sure why everyone keeps bringing up the Hyper-Dynamics bit. It is "heightened reflexes", not ninja abilities.
PsychoticStorm wrote: They are wearing the muscle suit that all powered armoured troops wear under the plating and the "armoured nipples" are nothing more than the fibermuscle attachment points, I don't get why the same attachment points in the hips do not raise similar reaction.
Well, I'm not sure how familiar you are with female breasts, but they aren't exactly load-bearing structures. One should not be using them as the mounting point for armor. You may have noticed that throughout history there have been very few weighty garments produced by any culture that are worn by clamping onto the nipples. One should probably be mounting armor on a part of the anatomy that is strongly supported by bone, like say, the hips, shoulders, etc. You know, a part of the body so that the armor will move and shift ergonomically with the natural positioning of the body. Not stylized to remind gamers that Riot Grrls have boobies.
I can forgive CB for making a sexy miniature, as that's kind of Infinity's thing. I can forgive them for even making a silly miniature, as long as the miniature is sculpted in a way that shows the sculptor is aware of the silliness. But there's no excuse for a mini that looks bad, and the Riot Grrls look bad.
Kanluwen wrote: A big reason for the "lack of great conversions" is that the sculpts and the medium do not really allow for it.
Not every person wants to/is capable of doing a beautiful conversion or can shell out the money for the parts. A great example of this is the SpecOps models and the alternate heads they have, which people are in love with for the most part (the Vortex helmeted SpecOps head and the Indigo helmeted head as well being two of the biggest ones I've seen going around as "wants").
Yes I think so too, Savnock for the most part the Infinity miniatures are a lot more finely detailed than their 40k counterparts - the lack of heroic scale means that it is all too easy to cut off hands and other body parts, or things like helmet antenna, by accident (which I've done, my Yu Jing must have lost her hand for punishment or something ), let alone try and move and resculpt bits and pieces. This comes from someone who has spent a lot of time converting 40k stuff (I have a large SM army where every marine has some form of conversion, even stuff like fingers and legs, so I'm not a complete novice). But, like the painting, it will take a step up in ability to have a go with these guys beyond even a simple weapon or head swap. I agree though it would be nice to see a few more people trying - perhaps now the game is getting a larger saturation you might see it start to happen, although for the aforementioned reason i don't see it every getting to the point where, like 40k, you see as many converted armies as you do standard ones.
Really cool ideas about adding trophies/totems to the riot grrls though, think I might have to steal that one if you don't mind!
Baiyuan does some really cool conversion work on his infinity stuff.
I'm no where near as good but I've converted my Necromunda squad, in my sig, from Infinity miniatures with ease, to the best of my ability anyway. My Nomads are going to be very extensively resculpted too.
I just wish more people would get into converting Infinity stuff because it's my favourite part of the hobby.
Well not only the material: having a beautiful sculpt can act as a deterrent for conversion. It's like, why would you want to change an already awesome piece and risk making it look worse? At least that's how I think.
I don't understand the whole thing against metal. People did it before with GW stuff pre-plastic. I think people have gotten lazy or spoiled by plastic. I remember taking hack saws to my 40k stuff all the time for head swaps or arms. etc. Yes it's not easy but it can be done with work.
CDK wrote: I don't understand the whole thing against metal. People did it before with GW stuff pre-plastic. I think people have gotten lazy or spoiled by plastic. I remember taking hack saws to my 40k stuff all the time for head swaps or arms. etc. Yes it's not easy but it can be done with work.
You are interpreting something which does not exist, CDK. There is not a "whole thing against metal".
Many people are intimidated by the quality of CB's sculpts. There are a lot of finnicky details which one straw file or cut can ruin and not everyone is capable of sculpting that detail back.
Right, I think it's more what Kan says. Metal only exacerbates the problem, but the real thing that makes Infinity modelling challenging is those very thin bits!
Beautiful models, but they take a bit of skill to assemble well, I think...
I guess I have to agree with that. They are quite difficult to do. But it still can be done. I've never done any because I've hardly felt the need to. For many weapons I just use stand in's but I've been playing combined which are a bit harder to tell what is what anyway.
As one who has done it several times for several models and various levels of ambition, conversions can range from minor yet crucial bending and simple arm swaps, to really intriguing multi model part conversions.
but it all cases they are far easier to work because they are realistically proportioned than anything metal GW has ever produced.
Plastics give the illusion of been easy to convert because of the medium that is relatively easy to cut and can be melted together with the "plastic glue" and because of the multi parted models, while I will agree they make "glue together many kits to produce one" easy, to have dynamic and intriguing results requires much cutting and resculpting.
I am thinking that my next order will have to include a Sekban. Even though I don't really need another link team (as I own the Druze and the Odalisques already), but daym that model is fine.
Just a shame that I have to buy friggin baggage remotes for Paradiso, rather than more murderers with guns. Sadpanda
feth that Sekban looks more awesome every time I see it. Same chunky, heavy look that the Spec Ops guy had without looking fat like the Fatty Phalanx, with a HML and that 'just deal with it' mosey away from an explosion pose.
Totally makes up for last months Haqqislam 'offering'.
Just as a refresher we have two "confirmed" releases for January:
Ariadna: 9th Caledonian Wulver Grenadiers Boxed Set including four Wulvers.
ALEPH: Steel Phalanx Diomedes, Ekdromoi character with a Mark 12.
We're pretty much guaranteed to have a Tohaa release as they are releasing as much Tohaa stuff as possible.
I'm thinking we'll get a Gao-Rael with Combi Rifle and Adhesive Launcher blister, which would add another Gao-Rael option and another Lieutenant option as well.
Edit note: I put "confirmed" as this is by no way definitive, but it has some relative teeth to it as a rumor.
Since I was so loud about the Riot release I suppose I should weigh in for the sake of completeness.
In short, I won't be picking the box up, and I thus won't be pursuing Nomads ... at least for a while longer What killed it for me by far is the boring as gak poses. I love the sculpt design - including fibro-muscles and cyber-nippes - but four (make that five) chicks standing there gesturing (or just holding their IMO undersized guns FFS) does not scream 'hyper-dynamic equipped, rage-filled assault maniacs' in any way shape or form. I have the spitfire grrl and love her, however I required a lot more variety to make my dreams of a riot-themed force a reality. Sorry CB, you lost me this time.
However this does mean I'll be moving ahead with my myrmidon-themed Homeridae Aleph
Alpharius wrote: I know you're lining up for that Wulver box set Kan - two new female sculpts is too much for you to resist!
I too am waiting for the inevitable barrage aimed at those poor little chibi Wulver girls, who will be helpless to resist in their little denim crop-tops and high-heels
Alpharius wrote: I know you're lining up for that Wulver box set Kan - two new female sculpts is too much for you to resist!
I too am waiting for the inevitable barrage aimed at those poor little chibi Wulver girls, who will be helpless to resist in their little denim crop-tops and high-heels
Mark my words.
You are not wrong in already describing them.
My only solace is that the Corregidor Jurisdictional Force might come out in January.
Boss Salvage wrote: Since I was so loud about the Riot release I suppose I should weigh in for the sake of completeness.
In short, I won't be picking the box up, and I thus won't be pursuing Nomads ... at least for a while longer What killed it for me by far is the boring as gak poses. I love the sculpt design - including fibro-muscles and cyber-nippes - but four (make that five) chicks standing there gesturing (or just holding their IMO undersized guns FFS) does not scream 'hyper-dynamic equipped, rage-filled assault maniacs' in any way shape or form. I have the spitfire grrl and love her, however I required a lot more variety to make my dreams of a riot-themed force a reality. Sorry CB, you lost me this time.
However this does mean I'll be moving ahead with my myrmidon-themed Homeridae Aleph
- Salvage
Looking at them again I really agree with this. Unfortunately it's becoming a bit of a trend with the unit boxes, which is a huge shame IMO.
Rackham started doing the same thing with their metal Ragnarok units and, while they were still decent sculpts, they really didn't have the impact of the stuff that wasn't sculpted with mild customability in mind. It's an unfortunate compromise.
If I was going to try to create the Riot Grrls I'd like to see I'd probably have to combine their set with the Posthuman box.
Kanluwen wrote: My only solace is that the Corregidor Jurisdictional Force might come out in January.
Having finally released the Raicho, last unit from the original book, and not having too much units from the new book, it's the right time for them to release/revamp starters and support boxes. And linked team boxes, as they are doing.
plastictrees wrote: If I was going to try to create the Riot Grrls I'd like to see I'd probably have to combine their set with the Posthuman box.
Wow, that's the top heresy, like trying to kitbash the Emprah from a box of Chaos Terminators
Kanluwen wrote: My only solace is that the Corregidor Jurisdictional Force might come out in January.
Having finally released the Raicho, last unit from the original book, and not having too much units from the new book, it's the right time for them to release/revamp starters and support boxes. And linked team boxes, as they are doing.
Or, you know, missing profiles. It's kind of annoying when some profiles have multiple models (for example, Odalisques with Contender and SMG have two models in the box, or the Daktari (though I don't begrudge people not wanting the cat girl)), while some profiles get neglected (for example, the Al Hawwa with Rifle, still from book 1).
-Loki- wrote: Or, you know, missing profiles. It's kind of annoying when some profiles have multiple models (for example, Odalisques with Contender and SMG have two models in the box, or the Daktari (though I don't begrudge people not wanting the cat girl)), while some profiles get neglected (for example, the Al Hawwa with Rifle, still from book 1).
Yes, of course, I was thinking about the boxed releases. They still have some gaps to cover, and luckily they can be covered in blisters, so that gives more chances per month.
Alpharius wrote: Now I need something to complain about on the Shasvastii side!
- Salvage
Well, they still havent come out with the haiduk but he's not that great anyway. I think they will come out with the Cadmus before him. Thats ok though because id rather have them.
Dudes, there are two cadmus models already! Pretty sure CDK is thinking of the Caliban box, which yes is something to look forward to, so so so many options
I think, if the Haiduk comes out... I won't be using the Guided version, but I will phase out the usage of my Shrouded Sniper in favor of Haiduk sniper. Mm, sapper sniper.
You know, I actually have a rather clear imagine in my head of what I hope the Haiduk will look like.
He'll be lying down behind some rubble, his sniper sticking out barely visible, and he'll have one of those Noctifier/Corax coats which will be covering most of his body and only his legs and his facing aiming down the scope will be visible.
I seriously hope he'll be like that, or equally awesome.
You can't get camo with experience. Or well, you can get mimetism, but that doesn't really count.
(Although I'm only 95% sure on this, been a while since I checked the tables...)
The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
An unbelievable demand...for certain ones at least. Intel/Chandra/Vortex are the "top dogs" right now. Tokens are iffy, as some have been up for preorder for quite awhile.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
They are, you just have to make sure to divide preorders from in-stock/backorders. It helps a lot I've found.
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
That's strange. I ordered the Chandra on Black Friday and received it five days later (EDIT: Then again, I ordered everything the moment they were available); they may be waiting on the MAS tokens, because Warstore likes to ship everything out in as few shipments as possible.
As far as the Sekban et al, the December Releases were just shipped, so that's normal.
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
That's strange. I ordered the Chandra on Black Friday and received it five days later (EDIT: Then again, I ordered everything the moment they were available); they may be waiting on the MAS tokens, because Warstore likes to ship everything out in as few shipments as possible.
As far as the Sekban et al, the December Releases were just shipped, so that's normal.
Yeah, that is weird!
I'm fairly sure he was waiting on the MAS stuff, but it has been like pulling teeth to get any sort of communication from them!
Alpharius wrote: The Warstore still owes me a few backorders - the Arianda Intel Spec Ops, Aleph Chandra and some MAS Infinity Tokens ordered back on November 23rd (!) as well as the Sekban, Raicho and Phoenix from December (ordered back on the 28th of December!).
The stuff still due from back in November is puzzling, although I hear there's high demand for the Spec-Ops stuff.
The Warstore usually is a lot better and quicker at this...
Why not order directly from Micro Arts, then?
I know they send out stuff without any problems, granted I'm in Poland so it was quicker to send tokens to me than to than to send tokens to the US, but I got my items 3 days after I ordered them.
