I think it'd be okay to drop this here but I won't say who said it...
About your offering to help, we plan to announce soon something related, so everyone wanting to help promoting Infinity will have a reward and official support. Stay tuned!
That's a nice gesture. There's some great small companies out there trying to help the game out with various things like terrain and vehicle models. Seeing them get rewarded for their help would be great.
I got my hands on one of those fancy quick start rule booklets, shiny and to the point. Easier to understand than the big book for some silly reason, but now I feel more than ready to give it a go.
Only complaint is that some of the sample armies in the back are not easy to recreate without buying a few extra blisters in addition to the faction starters.
heartserenade wrote: If she ever comes out I might convert her with Tyranid parts to make her more Kerrigan-y.
Then I may just start Combined Army and convert them into more Starcraft-esque beings. Oh my, the horror!
It really depends on the texture of the whole figure. The CA Sepsitor takes over the human mind, but it doesn't really induce any morphological changes; in factm the CA in generall keeps the biological features of the creatures pretty much intact. Due to the CA's technological aptitude in the fluff and the boxy nature of the "wings" in those preview images, she probably is not much more than a human with alien tech attached. Likely too cybernetic to be Tyranidy. Most of the CA itself is too cybernetic to be Tyranidy aside from their insectoid non-Exrah creatures like the Hungries and the Charotonid.
To be honest, you may have better luck with the Aleph Asura models as a base body, replacing the head with a GW Daemonette. Wings will have to be obtained somewhere.
Speaking to my FLGS they haven't had the January/February releases yet (I think it is actually January's) and are hoping to get them in the first week of March so the February releases will be for sale in April??? or march...? In confused.
From what they've been told CB are behind and deliberately withheld releases in Feb to catch up with re-stock orders from everyone. By the sound of it they are seeing a massed increase in the sales of Infinity, lets hope they catch up 'cause I want my new toys!
Again releases gain their name the month they are previewed on the public.
So January releases are, the ones showcased in January, Celestial guard hacker, HRL wildcat, Aleph support pack, Gao Rael Spitfire and the biscards box.
Casey's Law wrote: I think it'd be okay to drop this here but I won't say who said it...
About your offering to help, we plan to announce soon something related, so everyone wanting to help promoting Infinity will have a reward and official support. Stay tuned!
I thought there might be more interest in this. It's going to be a really welcome addition for those who are already promoting Infinity independantly and those who would like to. Those who know more about Wyrd and PP's programs, what do you think CB are planning?
Casey's Law wrote: I think it'd be okay to drop this here but I won't say who said it...
About your offering to help, we plan to announce soon something related, so everyone wanting to help promoting Infinity will have a reward and official support. Stay tuned!
...Maybe I made it up.
Woo! Nice work getting this organised Casey, looking forward to it...
edit: O, just saw the rest of the page (and your last post)....lol still excited to see CB officially supporting this.
Casey's Law wrote: I think it'd be okay to drop this here but I won't say who said it...
About your offering to help, we plan to announce soon something related, so everyone wanting to help promoting Infinity will have a reward and official support. Stay tuned!
I thought there might be more interest in this. It's going to be a really welcome addition for those who are already promoting Infinity independantly and those who would like to. Those who know more about Wyrd and PP's programs, what do you think CB are planning?
Well we'll get a Press Ganger/Henchman equivalent (speculate on the name as you wish), perhaps some direct scenario model rules (i.e. the new scenarios in No Quarter, though we are seeing this in some fashion with the Spec Ops), and perhaps tournament/competitive/league support.
That'd be a good start. It's nice to feel supported by a company
These cubes are specially useful for blocking Line of Fire without having to put there something like a whole building.
Plus... they also are great for making multi-level interesting buildings.
I hope they are low-cost, because I think I need 4 of them for my Micro Art Table.
Casey's Law wrote: I think it'd be okay to drop this here but I won't say who said it...
About your offering to help, we plan to announce soon something related, so everyone wanting to help promoting Infinity will have a reward and official support. Stay tuned!
I thought there might be more interest in this. It's going to be a really welcome addition for those who are already promoting Infinity independantly and those who would like to. Those who know more about Wyrd and PP's programs, what do you think CB are planning?
CB already do pretty good support if you want to try and run some intro events. I ran one, and they sent me a box of free stuff (intro rule books, some miniatures to give out. badges and things like that).
I like the Ko Dali but she's a bit busy. Too much going on to see her. I can't make out the guns at all or the "wings".
I'm happy with Bao. Though I'm not happy I have to buy the box set for the sniper. I can't afford it for a long time. Might have to go through ChoKonitt.
The Gao-Tarsos again looks a bit too busy to me. It could be my aging eyes but I wish it was a little simpler.
The Crusader is not bad if I a bit dancy looking. The Kaplans look okay to me. Not fantastic but not bad either.
Ko Dalis' badass but she's not what I have in mind for a Sarah Kerrigan conversion.
Kaplan box is amazing. I didn't like the first model they released but this box set I love very much. At long last I can use Engineers in my list without fielding a horrible model!
anyone notice the 3D renders in the back of the Bao... I mean of the Bao themselves
when will Corvus go Plastic like Malifaux???
I love to play infinity on a larger scale. if they somehow took the Malifaux approach with the 5 man plastic box thing... Multipart highly convertible infinity figs. it'd be over for me… could you imagine the large scale killing machines they’d make?
I can dream right?
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote: I really don't know how angel finds the time in his busy schedule but always nice to have insight into the workings of a very talented mind.
He's been doing them when he sits down to paint.
He only gets one "set" of models to paint for Corvus Belli, so he cannot do a step by step with a second set.
I love to play infinity on a larger scale. if they somehow took the Malifaux approach with the 5 man plastic box thing... Multipart highly convertible infinity figs. it'd be over for me… could you imagine the large scale killing machines they’d make?
I can dream right?
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Not in a really long time, CB wants production in house and the plastic has still issues to overcome.
Large scale Infinity, if it happens will most probably be in 15mm, but this would be quite in the future.
Have to say this month's releases are bloody awesome - I'm torn between the new Tohaa unit and the Kaplan as to which I like the most, but they are all pretty nice.
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:I really don't know how angel finds the time in his busy schedule but always nice to have insight into the workings of a very talented mind.
I got a chance to speak to one of the Spanish developers of the game, and he said that Angel knocks them out at amazing speed - like sat down with his head turned talking, while he continues to paint absent-mindedly. Some things in life are not fair right?
5deadly wrote:anyone notice the 3D renders in the back of the Bao... I mean of the Bao themselves
I love to play infinity on a larger scale. if they somehow took the Malifaux approach with the 5 man plastic box thing... Multipart highly convertible infinity figs. it'd be over for me… could you imagine the large scale killing machines they’d make?
I can dream right?
I think it's definitely a really cool idea - having some larger vehicle within the game. Would it be possible considering the scope of the rules (considering how powerful a TAG is already?) A chap called Descrii on the official forums wrote a scenario called 'Kill the tank' with that thing in mind - basically a large, immobile objective (that is very hard to destroy) with one team trying to move in and put it out of action.
They recommend you use something like the Antenociti hover-tank, which would suit the aesthetic of Infinity very well:
Spoiler:
The one report I've read about the mission was as awesome as hell - with a TO Camo ninja moving up and trying to pull off one of the turrets, but missing and getting splatted with a point-blank shot (you have to think of Ghost in the Shell there!)
One thing I will say though - Infinity is not meant to be a mass-battle system with two armies duking it out on the battlefield - it's meant to represent special-ops teams manoeuvring into position to take each other out. Modern warfare in the Infinity-era is so deadly that the best defence is to remain hidden. Although, I admit I'm intrigued by the possibility of what open combat in that era might look like..
when will Corvus go Plastic like Malifaux???
An interesting point - but looking at this month's releases, how many of them would be re-producible in plastic without compromise?
I think possibly the Kaplan, but even then you would probably lose some of those smaller details. Stuff like Ko Dali or Gao Tarsos not a chance in hell - I would say at least 75% of the Infinity line would need to be made in metal or a resin, it's impossible for miniatures of that detail to be produced in plastic.
CB must of noticed they were bleeding me dry. I only have a single model to buy this month, dose that mean I should start a 4th faction. I keep thinking about joining the Silk trade.
One thing that made me get out of 40k was the ridiculous scale. There's no realistic way a battle should be done with tanks and planes like they have. 15mm could actually be closer to scale on a table.
The only things I would wan them to do in plastic or resin would be the TAGs.
A 30mm models battlefield in company level is cluttered look at 40k, 15mm is the only way to have space for maneuvers.
Not to open up the whole can of worms, but...
Playing a normal game of 40k at roughly 1500 points is essentially a "skirmish". It's a snapshot of the battlefield as a whole, one small area of
Anything more than that or in games of Apocalypse, you are supposed to be upsizing the table. If you're trying to play 3k point games on the same table you use for a 1500 point game, of course things are going to get cluttered.
It would be like playing a 300 point game of Infinity with the same terrain layout you had for a 100 point game. Each game scales with points, and refusing to scale with them is detrimental to your game experience.
For me, Infinity has a models breaking point and not points breaking point, over 20 models per side is not advisable by me.
The same philosophy for me carries on to all game systems in my opinion, if the table looks full of models and movement is restricted by the mass of models then there are too many models on the table.
Not, really I used the same 4x4 foot table and even set up some time for 150 up to 400 games of Infinity. Swarms, 16ish models look gret hunting the emeny across the board, and die like flies to good ARO placement. But, even GW knows or I guess knew, that 28mm is not meant for large-scale battles that why the made Epic.
I was thinking around 1000-1500 points in size to 40k.
could you imagine most units that come in 4s now coming in squad boxes of 5, extra bits.... your leader determines what your "troops" would be...nice big T.A.G./Tanks, around 40+ some models on the table... less terrain. Faster play same models...same stats, still can use all your old stuff. Oh lord...
back on topic:
I’m admittedly out of the loop a bit, I have bought the new campaign book… I know Ko Dali went to Combined Army but whats happened and what happened to her… she looks Shas now.
Her armor looks like something from Metal Gear Rising… very cool. I guess I need the new book.
I wasn't a fan of the Spitfire Kaplan. Something about it seemed... off? The concept art was fantastic, but the model just didn't do it for me. I think it's the position, it's just... ugh.
The box set? Fantastic. Not beating out Druze for me aesthetically, but still really good.
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5deadly wrote: I know Ko Dali went to Combined Army but whats happened and what happened to her… she looks Shas now. Her armor looks like something from Metal Gear Rising… very cool. I guess I need the new book.
She got Sepsistored by the Shasvastii. Basically, they used her Cube to take control of her. No more Yu Jing profile.
There's a rather large debate on Corvus Belli making the Yu Jing profile illegal in ITS when it's not necessary even from a fluff point of view (download an old Cube into a new body, done).
-Loki- wrote: I wasn't a fan of the Spitfire Kaplan. Something about it seemed... off? The concept art was fantastic, but the model just didn't do it for me. I think it's the position, it's just... ugh.
The box set? Fantastic. Not beating out Druze for me aesthetically, but still really good.
Are you kidding me mate? These look twice as good as the Druze
She got Sepsistored by the Shasvastii. Basically, they used her Cube to take control of her. No more Yu Jing profile.
There's a rather large debate on Corvus Belli making the Yu Jing profile illegal in ITS when it's not necessary even from a fluff point of view (download an old Cube into a new body, done).
It would seem to make sense that they don't make her illegal*, although it lessens the impact a bit of the CA managing to steal her. Also makes you think of that bit at the end of the Matrix where Neo has spent 15 minutes fighting desperately with agent Smith, finally manages to finish him off, then another one instantly appears. It would obviously be the same for the CA trying to capture Ko Dali ("You've got to be fething kidding me... ! ")
Perhaps a better idea might have been to introduce a new, slightly lower stats version of Ko Dali for the Yu Jing (representing that even though she has been cubed into a new body, she has lost 10% of that edge, of her intangible.unquantifiable fighting ability) or maybe even write a bit of background, where the Yu Jing don't dare to resurrect her in case of a CA virus (kind of like how Aleph won't risk cubing their own troops in fights with CA).
* Although to be fair this is only going to be an issue in about 1% of games, I can't imagine anyone really getting funny about playing against the Yu Jing Ko Dali.
-Loki- wrote: I wasn't a fan of the Spitfire Kaplan. Something about it seemed... off? The concept art was fantastic, but the model just didn't do it for me. I think it's the position, it's just... ugh.
The box set? Fantastic. Not beating out Druze for me aesthetically, but still really good.
Are you kidding me mate? These look twice as good as the Druze
It's a bit hard to complain when these Kaplan look soo much better than the initial Spitfire model. But the Druze aesthetic appeals to me more. I just wish they had their Spitfire model already.
I'll definitely be grabbing a box of Kaplan though. And the Spitfire model. They're a more reliable choice than Druze in campaign missions. Having a doctor and engineer in a Fireteam is pretty invaluable.
Yes right, and the ADHL which I'm really looking forward to as a way to stop my friend's rampaging TAG!
I think part of the problem with the KTS is the colour scheme, although I agree it looks much better in this box set. It looks like the sculptors are finding their feet with the individual release, then hitting the mark for the boxset (at least I think with both these, and both this and the last Yu Jing set).
Overall a pretty good month i reckon, but i have to say i'm not a fan of the Kaplan. I was hoping they would improve on the spitfire model with the box set but they still look the same. :| I just can't get excited by the whole hunchback/ no-neck look. Good unit let down by the models i'd say.
bantha_beast wrote: Overall a pretty good month i reckon, but i have to say i'm not a fan of the Kaplan. I was hoping they would improve on the spitfire model with the box set but they still look the same. :| I just can't get excited by the whole hunchback/ no-neck look. Good unit let down by the models i'd say.
That's it. That's what I was seeing wrong with them but couldn't quite put my finger on. While, again, I think they improved them with the box, that original Spitfire model just looks like his head is in his chest.
bantha_beast wrote: Overall a pretty good month i reckon, but i have to say i'm not a fan of the Kaplan. I was hoping they would improve on the spitfire model with the box set but they still look the same. :| I just can't get excited by the whole hunchback/ no-neck look. Good unit let down by the models i'd say.
That's it. That's what I was seeing wrong with them but couldn't quite put my finger on. While, again, I think they improved them with the box, that original Spitfire model just looks like his head is in his chest.
The problem is the way their backpack is set up. It's rather large and bulky, but still hugs their actual back causing the hunchbacked appearance.
I've seen the model in person and it looks far, far better when you see it unpainted beforehand and realize that.
PsychoticStorm wrote: For me, Infinity has a models breaking point and not points breaking point, over 20 models per side is not advisable by me.
The same philosophy for me carries on to all game systems in my opinion, if the table looks full of models and movement is restricted by the mass of models then there are too many models on the table.
Still depends on the army. An Ork Green Tide is meant to represent so many Orks that it's like a veritable green, well, tide. Tyranids are meant to attack in the same way - it's like a tidal surge of gaunts pressing forwards, with larger gunbeasts and leaderbeasts wading through the shallows.
I would actually really like to see an Infinity scenario like that, but it would be really hard getting it working without bogging down. The Infinity system is great and fast when it's 3-4 models in a firefight. But when you've got 3 guys holding a wall against 20-30 models with the stats of a remote, the amount of ARO's is going to get a bit tedious.
This release has made me rethink my planned Quapu Khalki. Kaplan fit so much better into it than Druze for campaign play.
I think it's definitely a really cool idea - having some larger vehicle within the game. Would it be possible considering the scope of the rules (considering how powerful a TAG is already?) A chap called Descrii on the official forums wrote a scenario called 'Kill the tank' with that thing in mind - basically a large, immobile objective (that is very hard to destroy) with one team trying to move in and put it out of action.
They recommend you use something like the Antenociti hover-tank, which would suit the aesthetic of Infinity very well:
Spoiler:
The one report I've read about the mission was as awesome as hell - with a TO Camo ninja moving up and trying to pull off one of the turrets, but missing and getting splatted with a point-blank shot (you have to think of Ghost in the Shell there!)
Interesting! Although personally i would use Dust Tactics tank walkers.
I've been looking for an excuse to buy this because I don't play Dust but love the model. Now I have a reason!
This release has made me rethink my planned Quapu Khalki. Kaplan fit so much better into it than Druze for campaign play.
Druze fit my vicious SOB idea for what my Haqq should be, but I think I like the Kaplan minis a bit more, and they bring more to the table.
Really looking forward to seeing a Sekban box. I'm assuming that's several release waves away now?
Very likely.
The more I look at the new Kaplan models, the more I'm liking them.The Spitfire pose really killed the look for me, but these are making it work well. The Druze/Kaplan decision is going to be one of my regular 'tough choices' moments when I make QK lists now, I think.
I think it's definitely a really cool idea - having some larger vehicle within the game. Would it be possible considering the scope of the rules (considering how powerful a TAG is already?) A chap called Descrii on the official forums wrote a scenario called 'Kill the tank' with that thing in mind - basically a large, immobile objective (that is very hard to destroy) with one team trying to move in and put it out of action.
They recommend you use something like the Antenociti hover-tank, which would suit the aesthetic of Infinity very well:
Spoiler:
The one report I've read about the mission was as awesome as hell - with a TO Camo ninja moving up and trying to pull off one of the turrets, but missing and getting splatted with a point-blank shot (you have to think of Ghost in the Shell there!)
Interesting! Although personally i would use Dust Tactics tank walkers.
I've been looking for an excuse to buy this because I don't play Dust but love the model. Now I have a reason!
Just a minor correction here - the tank in that scenario definitely is not immobile. Not with a 6-6 MOV value
This release has made me rethink my planned Quapu Khalki. Kaplan fit so much better into it than Druze for campaign play.
Druze fit my vicious SOB idea for what my Haqq should be, but I think I like the Kaplan minis a bit more, and they bring more to the table.
Really looking forward to seeing a Sekban box. I'm assuming that's several release waves away now?
Very likely.
The more I look at the new Kaplan models, the more I'm liking them.The Spitfire pose really killed the look for me, but these are making it work well. The Druze/Kaplan decision is going to be one of my regular 'tough choices' moments when I make QK lists now, I think.
I think it's definitely a really cool idea - having some larger vehicle within the game. Would it be possible considering the scope of the rules (considering how powerful a TAG is already?) A chap called Descrii on the official forums wrote a scenario called 'Kill the tank' with that thing in mind - basically a large, immobile objective (that is very hard to destroy) with one team trying to move in and put it out of action.
They recommend you use something like the Antenociti hover-tank, which would suit the aesthetic of Infinity very well:
Spoiler:
The one report I've read about the mission was as awesome as hell - with a TO Camo ninja moving up and trying to pull off one of the turrets, but missing and getting splatted with a point-blank shot (you have to think of Ghost in the Shell there!)
Interesting! Although personally i would use Dust Tactics tank walkers.
I've been looking for an excuse to buy this because I don't play Dust but love the model. Now I have a reason!
Just a minor correction here - the tank in that scenario definitely is not immobile. Not with a 6-6 MOV value
"Nice robo-legs. Be a shame if something were to... happen to them...".
bantha_beast wrote: Overall a pretty good month i reckon, but i have to say i'm not a fan of the Kaplan. I was hoping they would improve on the spitfire model with the box set but they still look the same. :| I just can't get excited by the whole hunchback/ no-neck look. Good unit let down by the models i'd say.
That's it. That's what I was seeing wrong with them but couldn't quite put my finger on. While, again, I think they improved them with the box, that original Spitfire model just looks like his head is in his chest.
The problem is the way their backpack is set up. It's rather large and bulky, but still hugs their actual back causing the hunchbacked appearance.
I've seen the model in person and it looks far, far better when you see it unpainted beforehand and realize that.
Yes definitely with you on that one! He does look much better in person, and I think this boxset is correctly proportioned if you look at it. Having body armour on and a helmet can make it difficult to judge though.
15mm would be a good way to bring vehicles into the game, but I just don't get the sense that there are a lot of big, protracted battles going on in the Infinity galaxy.
Though I suppose the EI invasion would qualify as one...
Can someone tell me where that 15mm Lara Croft is from?
They look a bit chibi to me... but the second picture looks great. And I would never fight an army of cute kitty cats in power armour... I'd shake the treat bag instead.
CB has stated several several times that they #1 have no intention of doing a large scale Infinity game. It doesn't fit the fluff since no one is at war but Tohaa/CA and Humans/CA. #2 are not going plastic and have stated they are a metal minis company and prefer the medium.
An Infinity RPG is likely since the mechanics would transfer VERY easily to an RPG. Hell sometimes Infinity feels like an RPG. There was rumors that at GenCon this year they will either announce an RPG or an Art book.
This is the first time I ever read about INFINITY in 15mm scale.
What I've been reading for years, from many different sources, is that people want bigger Infinity miniatures. People usually gets crazy about the TAGS, and is always talking about an Ariadnan TAG with BIG arms, BIG torso, BIG feet...
That is because Infinity miniatures have a correctly proportioned anatomy base and that makes the miniatures look very THIN compared to the usual Spess mahreen basis everyone knows.
"Paintign surface", "painting surface" everywhere...
This new Kodali chic? with those wings? paintign surface? Instant Infinity success...
That Lara Croft is reasonable for 15mm, although I suspect some of hat is down to the painting. The two figs in the second pic are also reasonable. The rest is about what I've come to expect from 15mm... Not a fan ,sorry.
BlueDagger wrote: CB has stated several several times that they #1 have no intention of doing a large scale Infinity game. It doesn't fit the fluff since no one is at war but Tohaa/CA and Humans/CA. #2 are not going plastic and have stated they are a metal minis company and prefer the medium.
An Infinity RPG is likely since the mechanics would transfer VERY easily to an RPG. Hell sometimes Infinity feels like an RPG. There was rumors that at GenCon this year they will either announce an RPG or an Art book.
The Artbook is not a rumour but a fact, confirmed by the guys at O-12.
15mm has been mentioned many times and since CB has already proven they can do fantastic 15mm scale models from their historical lines, it would be a safe bet for quality.
But as it has been stated, if it happens it will be in a long time ahead in the future, Infinity (that means 30mm) in large scale is out of the question.
BlueDagger wrote: CB has stated several several times that they #1 have no intention of doing a large scale Infinity game. It doesn't fit the fluff since no one is at war but Tohaa/CA and Humans/CA. #2 are not going plastic and have stated they are a metal minis company and prefer the medium.
An Infinity RPG is likely since the mechanics would transfer VERY easily to an RPG. Hell sometimes Infinity feels like an RPG. There was rumors that at GenCon this year they will either announce an RPG or an Art book.
The Artbook is not a rumour but a fact, confirmed by the guys at O-12.
Seriously? I and another chap suggested that to one of the main developers, Carlos, at an event last year. Obviously we were not the only ones!
Yes right.. I was lucky enough to see a book with loads of the character concepts, sketches and prints of the art from the various books in it. Absolutely awesome.
I think the cool thing is at the moment a lot of the art is outsourced - IIRC they have artists from many different countries around the world, ones who have made a name for themselves as sci-fi artists. Sometimes Corvus Belli won't have even met them, but they just give a rough idea of what they want and then let the artists take their own spin on it, send them a print of the art and that's it.
I think its why the art in something like Campaign Paradiso ends up looking like a collection of different sci-fi art, with lots of different styles, conceptions and imaginings of the Infinity universe. Personally, I think it's one of the best things about Infinity at the moment.
BlueDagger wrote: CB has stated several several times that they #1 have no intention of doing a large scale Infinity game. It doesn't fit the fluff since no one is at war but Tohaa/CA and Humans/CA. #2 are not going plastic and have stated they are a metal minis company and prefer the medium.
An Infinity RPG is likely since the mechanics would transfer VERY easily to an RPG. Hell sometimes Infinity feels like an RPG. There was rumors that at GenCon this year they will either announce an RPG or an Art book.
The Artbook is not a rumour but a fact, confirmed by the guys at O-12.
Seriously? I and another chap suggested that to one of the main developers, Carlos, at an event last year. Obviously we were not the only ones!
Ye, I'm pretty sure it's been in the works fr quite a while already, Romeo on one of the earlier O-12s said that there's an artbook going to be released. He also stressed the fact that the info came directly from Jefe Carlos and even though it was announced during the "Rumours" section of the podcast, it was pretty much already decided on
Pacific wrote: I think its why the art in something like Campaign Paradiso ends up looking like a collection of different sci-fi art, with lots of different styles, conceptions and imaginings of the Infinity universe. Personally, I think it's one of the best things about Infinity at the moment.
Now that you mention it, it actually gives it an 'early days of 40k' feel, where they did the same thing. Not outsource, but had a bunch of different artists with their own styles. GW have moved away from that somewhat - they have basically two styles now. Clean lines and John Blanche.
Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling having Infinity give me a 2nd edition 40k nostalgia trip.
Yes I agree with you completely mate, its got the same fresh feeling about it (although actually a lot of the early 40k stuff was outsourced; Les Edwards, Christopher Fangorn etc. in fact, a lot of the early covers!)
Ye, I'm pretty sure it's been in the works fr quite a while already, Romeo on one of the earlier O-12s said that there's an artbook going to be released.
yes, but he also said some other things which were patently untrue, and caused a rather large amount of excrement to be thrown into a fan
Pacific wrote: Yes I agree with you completely mate, its got the same fresh feeling about it (although actually a lot of the early 40k stuff was outsourced; Les Edwards, Christopher Fangorn etc. in fact, a lot of the early covers!)
Ye, I'm pretty sure it's been in the works fr quite a while already, Romeo on one of the earlier O-12s said that there's an artbook going to be released.
yes, but he also said some other things which were patently untrue, and caused a rather large amount of excrement to be thrown into a fan
I haven't really listened to all the recent podcasts, but this was before the forum drama. I'd bet my money on the artbook coming out this summer
Romeo and the Podcast crew have usual direct communication with the CB staff, so I would believe this "Artbook" rumour.
Ravage magazine has also direct communication with CB and sometimes they miss in their "What's coming" news. That just means that CB changes their plans constantly. But the Artbook is coming, for sure.
Pacific wrote: Yes I agree with you completely mate, its got the same fresh feeling about it (although actually a lot of the early 40k stuff was outsourced; Les Edwards, Christopher Fangorn etc. in fact, a lot of the early covers!)
Ye, I'm pretty sure it's been in the works fr quite a while already, Romeo on one of the earlier O-12s said that there's an artbook going to be released.
yes, but he also said some other things which were patently untrue, and caused a rather large amount of excrement to be thrown into a fan
I haven't really listened to all the recent podcasts, but this was before the forum drama. I'd bet my money on the artbook coming out this summer
Actually I was thinking about the comment made regarding Infinity becoming more of a mass-battle system (perhaps 18 months ago or so?)
I thought they did denied that rumour during last Gencon.
Things can change in CB, they can choose the gaming path they want, but...
If they want to make INFINITY a mass battle game, they have to skip metal and turn their whole range into plastic. A miniature company cannot jump into massive battles withuout plastic or resin, the cost of metal forbids the quantity and price of the ammount of miniatures a player would need.
BobbaFett wrote: If they want to make INFINITY a mass battle game, they have to skip metal and turn their whole range into plastic. A miniature company cannot jump into massive battles withuout plastic or resin, the cost of metal forbids the quantity and price of the ammount of miniatures a player would need.
BobbaFett wrote: If they want to make INFINITY a mass battle game, they have to skip metal and turn their whole range into plastic. A miniature company cannot jump into massive battles withuout plastic or resin, the cost of metal forbids the quantity and price of the ammount of miniatures a player would need.
Sure they can go mass battle and stay metal.
15mm.
That would suit Infinity just fine.
Yup, metals just fine, my historical game says so.
But, a mass battle game is in the same place Warcrow is, they love to do it but the captial is not there.
BobbaFett wrote: I thought they did denied that rumour during last Gencon.
Things can change in CB, they can choose the gaming path they want, but...
If they want to make INFINITY a mass battle game, they have to skip metal and turn their whole range into plastic. A miniature company cannot jump into massive battles withuout plastic or resin, the cost of metal forbids the quantity and price of the ammount of miniatures a player would need.
I think it was more of a problem that the Battlefoam bag was released, which looked to be far too big for what most Infinity players would need (only having to transport perhaps a max of 20 miniatures) - which was especially an issue considering the quite high price of the bags, as nice as they are . So, I believe Romeo then said something about Infinity becoming a mass battle system in the future, and that therefore the bigger bag would be a wise choice - I didn't hear or read this directly by the way, it was read second hand from the stink it generated on the official forums.
But yes I also read this 'rumour' (because its not really) getting shot down - a mass battle system would require a complete re-write of the rules from the ground up. In fact they may as well completely design a new games system, so I guess it would make sense to do it in 15mm if they wanted to do so.
Aren't Link Team rules though a pretty good bridge between skirmish level and squad based battles? I wouldn't go so far as saying mass battle, but if you were able to link team more than one group of minis, essentially you'd see people have maybe a higher proportion of those units (which are usually near the cheerleader level of power) with a few choice superstars. And maybe more TAGs.
I should have thought a good sized Infinity setup would include three factions, with enough choices to vary the force selection for each game, and a number of "civilian" figures to act as mobile scenery or objectives. In other words, perhaps 80 models total. That would explain a large carrying bag without meaning a "mass battle" system is on the cards.
Mathieu Raymond wrote: Aren't Link Team rules though a pretty good bridge between skirmish level and squad based battles? I wouldn't go so far as saying mass battle, but if you were able to link team more than one group of minis, essentially you'd see people have maybe a higher proportion of those units (which are usually near the cheerleader level of power) with a few choice superstars. And maybe more TAGs.
They're fun to paint, at least.
No, it may seem at first, but if you try it it does not feel or work right, even Tohaa and Greek sectorial with multiple low model count link teams push it.
To go mass battles you need great simplification and play space.
Mathieu Raymond wrote: Aren't Link Team rules though a pretty good bridge between skirmish level and squad based battles? I wouldn't go so far as saying mass battle, but if you were able to link team more than one group of minis, essentially you'd see people have maybe a higher proportion of those units (which are usually near the cheerleader level of power) with a few choice superstars. And maybe more TAGs.
They're fun to paint, at least.
You can already - Haris L1. Qapu Kalki can run a full link team like Kaplans plus a Sekban or Odalisque Haris team. Tohaa can run several Haris teams, though no full link team.
Pacific wrote: Guys.. any idea on how long us Europeans will have to wait between the revealing of these miniatures and how long before they go on sale?
We sometimes wait 4-5 weeks in Australia at best. Consider yourselves lucky. My FLGS got the wave the Al Hawwa sniper was in 6 weeks after release, and that was ordering as soon as they were available.
I for one don't really want to see Infinity go larger scale...
...but I would like to see more TAGS. I would love to see a game where you play, say, 1000 points, but the vast majority of your points have to be spent on TAGS. Play the games in a more traditional setting, a more open battlefield (not suicidally open or AROs will just be out of control). Maybe with a pseudo link team of TAGs...
-Loki- wrote: We sometimes wait 4-5 weeks in Australia at best. Consider yourselves lucky. My FLGS got the wave the Al Hawwa sniper was in 6 weeks after release, and that was ordering as soon as they were available.
It usually depends on your distributor. There is a local store near-ish me that usually has every new release in-stock and on the shelves within 3 weeks. They are their own distributor. There is another store nearer me that I used to order from that uses Alliance Games Distributors. Alliance is awful with Infinity; I just got my Chandra in last week. Plus, they got rid of their customer-viewable inventory so it's even more awkward for stores.
Ah.. Wayland games just sent a circular out saying that February's miniatures are available (The Briscard boxset, Gao Rael, Celestial Guard hacker etc.) so I've just answered my own question - I guess about 3-4 weeks in the UK then, after the initial reveal.
DeathGod wrote: I for one don't really want to see Infinity go larger scale...
...but I would like to see more TAGS. I would love to see a game where you play, say, 1000 points, but the vast majority of your points have to be spent on TAGS. Play the games in a more traditional setting, a more open battlefield (not suicidally open or AROs will just be out of control). Maybe with a pseudo link team of TAGs...
That would give me a raging gamer boner.
I wrote a scenario/rules mod that did exactly this on the old CB forums, but the move to the new forum software seems to have erased it. Guess I'll have to d it again.
The only bit from your description that I didn't include was link teams of TAGs. That's a great idea- I'll mix it in. Probably gonna keep it to the lighter TAGs, (or maybe limit the number of heavies that can link to 3 or something while lights can link a full 5) but it's kind of a no-brainer for Geckos etc.
The main challenge of such a scenario is limiting the number of infantry toting anti-TAG weapons that players can bring. Otherwise you end up with huge hordes of panzerfaust-toting infantry, which while interesting once or twice would get real lame real quick. I've got a rule for it in there (or had one I guess) but can't remember what it was now. I think just a cap on infantry SWC.
I was looking at getting a couple of those multi-model packs of Ghost in the Shell Tachikomas to serve as a Haqq armored column for playtesting. Kinda got pushed to the bottom of my stack, but maybe I'll haul it out for a demo day soon or something.
DeathGod wrote: I for one don't really want to see Infinity go larger scale...
...but I would like to see more TAGS. I would love to see a game where you play, say, 1000 points, but the vast majority of your points have to be spent on TAGS. Play the games in a more traditional setting, a more open battlefield (not suicidally open or AROs will just be out of control). Maybe with a pseudo link team of TAGs...
That would give me a raging gamer boner.
I wrote a scenario/rules mod that did exactly this on the old CB forums, but the move to the new forum software seems to have erased it. Guess I'll have to d it again.
The only bit from your description that I didn't include was link teams of TAGs. That's a great idea- I'll mix it in. Probably gonna keep it to the lighter TAGs, (or maybe limit the number of heavies that can link to 3 or something while lights can link a full 5) but it's kind of a no-brainer for Geckos etc.
The main challenge of such a scenario is limiting the number of infantry toting anti-TAG weapons that players can bring. Otherwise you end up with huge hordes of panzerfaust-toting infantry, which while interesting once or twice would get real lame real quick. I've got a rule for it in there (or had one I guess) but can't remember what it was now. I think just a cap on infantry SWC.
While linked TAGs sound fun and might work in a TAG only game, there is a reason CB drop the option to link the Geckos.
Savnock - I believe all of the old threads are still on the forum, but they've moved location so the old links won't work any more. I think if you sign in, you can probably search for it via your control panel?
Although - multiple TAG vs. TAG combat? Maybe it is better for the survival of humankind if such secrets are not known by the rest of the world
It's a sleek motorcycle, and Penthesilea herself looks competent and awesome without looking like a car-show-babe cheesecake model. I'm so happy CB didn't give into temptation.
BrookM wrote: Indeed a lovely design, does every faction have bikes these days, or just a few?
Only three factions. Haqqislam has four Kum Bikers and a named character; they're essentially a biker gang. Yu Jing have two Aragoto models. Now Aleph has a named character. They're all impetuous.
Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
I'm not a fan of the bare midriff either, it was a problem with the Chandra figure. You could just paint it in a clothing color; Aleph models have a thing for skin-tight attire across both genders.
As for the sword, one of the factors that makes her special in Aleph is that she's the only one with access to a Monofilament weapon in the entire army list. You could probably get the CombiRifle arm from the Myrmidon Officer and attach it to Penthesila considering she is also equipped with one. I'm sure it'll look fine considering every Aleph Steel Phalanx named character and most of the Myrmidons have had that sword.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
I'm not a fan of the bare midriff either, it was a problem with the Chandra figure. You could just paint it in a clothing color; Aleph models have a thing for skin-tight attire across both genders.
As for the sword, one of the factors that makes her special in Aleph is that she's the only one with access to a Monofilament weapon in the entire army list. You could probably get the CombiRifle arm from the Myrmidon Officer and attach it to Penthesila considering she is also equipped with one. I'm sure it'll look fine considering every Aleph Steel Phalanx named character and most of the Myrmidons have had that sword.
The biggest problem that I have had with both the Chandra figure and this one, in regards to the "bare midriff" is that there's a notable delineation between what would be flesh and skin.
In these two instances, there's a bit of a "dip" where it shows up and just looks awkward with the tight fitting pants that both are wearing.
Other than that (exceedingly minor) complaint, I like it.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
I'm not a fan of the bare midriff either, it was a problem with the Chandra figure. You could just paint it in a clothing color; Aleph models have a thing for skin-tight attire across both genders.
No! Do you know why? Because she's riding a sexy looking motorbike, and she wants to look sexy while riding it. That's why.
Alpharius wrote:Penthesilea rocks!
And once they release a few more motorcycles for the JSA...
Hmm.. I'm thinking a re-creation of the scene from Akira, complete with special rules for some kind of battle-race.
Who will be the first person to attempt such a thing?
I'd probably swap her sword for something a bit more traditional, but that's me. She'd look awesome with a mono-filament katana. Instant street samurai.
@Kanluwen
Good suggestions, I will see how everything turns out when I have her.^^
@BrookM
Agreed, i would've prefered a Katana, slender without this "thicker - slender - thicker"-blade, no clean, slim and deadly. I think that fits the actual design better.
@BrookM
Agreed, i would've prefered a Katana, slender without this "thicker - slender - thicker"-blade, no clean, slim and deadly. I think that fits the actual design better.
A Katana wouldn't be consistent with the other Steel Phalanx swords which are short, stabby and make sense in the Ancient Greek inspired context.
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plastictrees wrote: I'm hoping the Kum bikers eventually look a fraction as cool as this. If not, then at least we have the two aragatos and this to base conversions off of.
I think I'm the only person ever who like the the Haqq bikers.
plastictrees wrote: I'm hoping the Kum bikers eventually look a fraction as cool as this. If not, then at least we have the two aragatos and this to base conversions off of.
I think I'm the only person ever who like the the Haqq bikers.
Old sculpts doesn't help. Working from identical concepts would produce better models now.
The mono bike is just a bit dorky to me.
Geckos were not even at the concept stage as of January.
Iguanas seem to be ignored since they're Corregidor and not Bakunin.
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Dheneb wrote: There was a list a few pages ago; Chaksas box was on there, along with Penthesilea and some other things.
Here's the list that Dheneb mentioned:
Kanluwen wrote:
List from Infinity O-12
March and April:
- ALEPH Penthesilea
- Tohaa Chaksas x 4
- Nomad Moiras x 4
- Shasvastii Haiduk
- PanO Support Box
If I had to hazard an actual guess though?
Penthesilea, Chaksas, and Haiduk in March.
Moiras and PanO Support Box in April.
There are of course likely a few more releases in there that we do not have yet, or they'll lump them all in the same month. I can never tell with Corvus Belli as their release schedule seems to be based upon a D100.
Not sure how anybody can say anything really bad about Pentithesia's sculpt. Except the midrift, I suppose. But you could always paint that as an underlayer body suit.
Rev Moiras definitely need a resculpt. Their existing ones are BADLY our of proportion, especially that absurd HMG.
plastictrees wrote:Old sculpts doesn't help. Working from identical concepts would produce better models now.
The mono bike is just a bit dorky to me.
There is a really funny cartoon sketch about the pose of the one Kum biker (by that Spanish chap, see if I can find it.. )
The mono-wheel bike has been used a few times in Manga movies, not sure if that is why they went for that design before. I kind of like them although I guess they are starting to look a little out of sync with some of the newer releases.
I personally hate the Kum bikers (and the Haqq TAG, but that is another issue). They just look dorky, like something that you'd get in a Happy Meal. Compared with the sleek & dangerous look that I love in stuff like the Odalisques or Druze, or out of faction models like the Aragato, they are just hard to take seriously.
Space Marine bikes look better, and that is saying something.
I like the fact that she has her throttle hand on the bike and the weapon in her left hand. Really hard in real life to use your right hand for a weapon (or anything else) and make the bike go....
Charles Rampant wrote: I personally hate the Kum bikers (and the Haqq TAG, but that is another issue). They just look dorky, like something that you'd get in a Happy Meal. Compared with the sleek & dangerous look that I love in stuff like the Odalisques or Druze, or out of faction models like the Aragato, they are just hard to take seriously.
Space Marine bikes look better, and that is saying something.
Druze are out of faction as well. They have ties to Haqqislam as a religion, but they're strictly mercenary forces from another society altogether. You would have been better off comparing them to Hassassins
Charles Rampant wrote: I personally hate the Kum bikers (and the Haqq TAG, but that is another issue). They just look dorky, like something that you'd get in a Happy Meal. Compared with the sleek & dangerous look that I love in stuff like the Odalisques or Druze, or out of faction models like the Aragato, they are just hard to take seriously.
Space Marine bikes look better, and that is saying something.
Druze are out of faction as well. They have ties to Haqqislam as a religion, but they're strictly mercenary forces from another society altogether. You would have been better off comparing them to Hassassins
What he probably meant is that Druze are part of Qapu Khalqi, like Kaplan or Cordelia and Scarface, and can be therefore considered part of Haqqislam.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
They do a number of models with bare midriff that can be "sexed down" by not painting it in bare skin colour.
To putty over it would be more trouble but might achieve a good result by texturing a flexible armour.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
They do a number of models with bare midriff that can be "sexed down" by not painting it in bare skin colour.
To putty over it would be more trouble but might achieve a good result by texturing a flexible armour.
Just painting it as a jumpsuit has worked well in my case. Just don't thin the paint as much so it gives a slightly thicker texture. If you want to make sure and use greenstuff, just adding a bit of piping or trim can go a loong way to turn mirdiff into actual uniform sections.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
They do a number of models with bare midriff that can be "sexed down" by not painting it in bare skin colour.
To putty over it would be more trouble but might achieve a good result by texturing a flexible armour.
The problem is that "a number of models with bare midriff" also have uniform pants on rather than skintight bodygloves.
Why are people having such a hook in their craw about a bit of exposed skin? It suits the model, and it's not like she's got some itty bitty titty showing, or the crack of her arse
CptJake wrote: I like the fact that she has her throttle hand on the bike and the weapon in her left hand. Really hard in real life to use your right hand for a weapon (or anything else) and make the bike go....
Very cool figure.
Haha yes, something often neglected by designers - this one at least looks like it might at least be a feasible future design, unlike Judge Dredd or a Space Marine bike, that have wheels so wide and such a long wheel base that to do anything than ride in a straight line with them must be practically impossible
Awesome that motorbikes/motorbike sports are so big in Spain though, means that this game has loads of models for them
Pacific wrote: Why are people having such a hook in their craw about a bit of exposed skin? It suits the model, and it's not like she's got some itty bitty titty showing, or the crack of her arse
I think that, strangely enough, it comes down to Bakunin vs. Corregidor - even though she's Aleph!
Pacific wrote: Why are people having such a hook in their craw about a bit of exposed skin? It suits the model, and it's not like she's got some itty bitty titty showing, or the crack of her arse
I think that, strangely enough, it comes down to Bakunin vs. Corregidor - even though she's Aleph!
I think that is almost exactly what the problem is.
Look at all the Steel Phalanx models. There are no less than three females(Myrmidon Officer, Myrmidon Hacker, and one of the Thorakitai), and not a single one has the whole "woo check my bare midriff out!".
There's only one female model (the Myrmidon Hacker) who looks vaguely silly and that is simply from the ridiculously bad pose they gave her (which would be dumb even on a male character).
They've kept a fairly "professional" look with the Steel Phalanx, blending a bit of Hellenic Greek influence (the helmet crests, the design of the helmets and armor plates) with a more futuristic infantry look.
And then comes Penthesilea, throwing that all out the window.
It's just like the stupid Wildcat with HRL to be honest. It takes elements of the existing theme and then goes in a direction that makes no sense.
The models themselves look fine. They're nice sculpts.
But they just don't fit with the rest of the line. It's a thematic difference that drives someone like myself absolutely bonkers.
I love how you ignored the complete rest of the post and focused in on a misguided notion that it is simply the exposed skin that I'm complaining about.
With some factions it seems that Corvus Belli cannot pick a design aesthetic and stick with it. The Wildcat with HRL and Penthesilea are perfect examples of this, contrasting rather vividly with the rest of the Sectorial they are within.
I am puzzled on the female thorakitai, beyond that Penthesilea is not a "steel phalanx" she is homeriade, something from legend and larger than life, sure her Ikohl works even when she is fully clothed, but the audience wants to see the sexy lady of the legends and the assault subsection IS as much a propaganda machine as is a honest fighting unit.
It makes sense, in a way. Aside from Ajax the Smashface-Insane, Penthesilea is the only other model in all of Aleph that is impetuous. She IS an individual.
Plus, she's based on the Amazonian warrior that mercenarily joined the Trojans to prove something about her people. She ham-fistedly challenged Achilles to a fight (spoiler: she lost).
She is the only motorcycle in Aleph and the Steel Phalanx. She is the only one to employ monofilament weapons and i-Kohl. She also has the least armor of anyone in the entire Steel Phalanxincluding the typical grunts like Myrmidons, Ekdromoi, and Thorakitai.
She IS an individual.
PsychoticStorm wrote: I am puzzled on the female thorakitai, beyond that Penthesilea is not a "steel phalanx" she is homeriade, something from legend and larger than life, sure her Ikohl works even when she is fully clothed, but the audience wants to see the sexy lady of the legends and the assault subsection IS as much a propaganda machine as is a honest fighting unit.
Kanluwen wrote: I love how you ignored the complete rest of the post and focused in on a misguided notion that it is simply the exposed skin that I'm complaining about.
With some factions it seems that Corvus Belli cannot pick a design aesthetic and stick with it. The Wildcat with HRL and Penthesilea are perfect examples of this, contrasting rather vividly with the rest of the Sectorial they are within.
I think I didn't ignore or misunderstood what you said, buy maybe. You reach the conclusion that Penthesilea breaks the homogeneity of the range, because of the skin. I think she fits just fine. But it seems that the minimum amount or insinuation of skin in a CB model is a reason to complain. And the funniest thing is that I only read this complains from male gamers. Okay.
WolfStark wrote: Bike and rider do look very good, even though this bare belly look isn't my taste. Only thing I would like to see is an alternative weapon or arm, not a fan of swords.
They do a number of models with bare midriff that can be "sexed down" by not painting it in bare skin colour.
To putty over it would be more trouble but might achieve a good result by texturing a flexible armour.
The problem is that "a number of models with bare midriff" also have uniform pants on rather than skintight bodygloves.
It ends up looking silly.
It is an aesthetic choice by the designer. You can amend it by paint and putty if you want, or just avoid those models. I won't buy the Pan-Oceania models because I think the backwards curving magazines look silly.
It will never happen that all figures will suit one's own personal preferences. Fortunately the range includes enough models that any army can assemble a good force without the need for bare midriff girlies.
There's also the fact that with other Aleph troops too (Asura, Deva, etc), their skin IS armor. They are not human and do not have actual skin. They look human but they might as well be very sophisticated androids.
Penthesilea has the lowest armor in the entire Steel Phalanx list (1). Everyone else has ARM 2 or higher. Simple as that. She can run around with her midriff all bare.
Alpharius wrote: But... maybe these stylistic differences just represent individuals expressing their... individuality?
A stretch for Aleph, sure, but not for Nomads!
i think as well a lot of the style differences can be mitigated by going for a unifying paint job - I think with Nomads especially, there are so many disparate styles, but I've found even between the two main ones (dome-headed, faceless sci-fi drop troopers, and 'Dominion tank police' style animals or mutants with swords) you can find some common ground with a paint job or even their bases.
For the Nomads it makes sense since they are not that unified each ship is an entire different world and units come from different parts of each ship, the fact they can be unified with a common paint theme is a testament to the units design.
Alkasyn wrote: According to a different forum I frequent, rumoured releases are:
March:
HMG volunteer
Feuerbach Shasvastii
Moiras Box set (4 girls, Multi sniper, HMG, hacker and CCW)
Pano support box
Pentesilea (duuh already seen)
April:
Haiduk Shasvastii
Kirpal Singh
Chaksas
Domaru Neko Oyama
Haqquislam Support box
This list was from Infinity O-12 originally.
The Moiras box seems to be getting a lot of gripes, which in turn makes me chuckle.
The Haiduk and Caliban are making my brother quite happy.
Singh makes me fairly excited as it could also be another Bagh-Mari model.
Pan-O and Haqqislam support boxes will hopefully have some new sculpts within.
I'm currently speculating that the reason we are seeing no Tohaa release for March is that they are trying to play "catch up" and get more Tohaa starter boxes out to market as they are inexcusably hard to find outside of directly from CB.
I'm actually looking forward to the Morias. I know some are pissed about it but it might be my chance to do my all female force with my daughter. I wanted to start a PanO force but I don't think I'm going to have the money to do it the way I want. All the boxed sets are pissing me off because I can't afford figures all at once like that. I can do a blister here and there but boxes are tough.
Absolutionis wrote: I somewhat doubt the Haqqislam Support Box or any support box will have totally new sculpts. Who wants another set of Nazmat remotes?
They may do what they did with the superior Daktari sculpt though and release it separate for a limited time.
A few new doctor models wouldn't be surprising, and would let them keep them in a a box rather than fill 3-4 rack spaces.
Nothing special. It's a nice sculpt, fits the unit, and does what it says on the tin.
Penthesilea
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
Shasvastii Caliban
Not sure how that is a "Feuerbach"...
It's a nice model though. I can't help but think the Feuerbach might be mislabeled.
PanO Support Pack
Lazy. The Trauma Doc and Engineer are the models which should have been resculpted, not the bloody Moiras.
Poor form, Corvus Belli.
Reverend Moiras
This is what they did as a "resculpt"?
The sculpts are nice, sure. But they are still blatantly out of theme with the rest of the Observance.
Compare these to Kusanagi, the Reverend Custodiers, or the Sin-Eater Observants. The only visual tie is the colors and the robes. Why the hell is it so necessary for the "bare thighs" motif on the bloody Moira? They clearly tried to armor up the rest of the model--but kept the stupid bare thighs. All it would have taken was an extension of the boots to make it a "full body suit" and I would not be so annoyed.
It's like the stupid Wildcat HRL. It feels like it belongs in an entirely different range, not the one it is in.
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Absolutionis wrote: Oh wow. Those Moiras do look nice. They even have butt-coverings for once. Nomads can learn modesty after all.
Not really.
All they did was shift the placement of the long coat.
The sad part is that even as pin up models, they don't do anything for me. The poses are static and feel more awkward than sexy (because let's face it, no one expected good combat poses here). Not a fan.
I guess I have to settle for Penthesilea this month.
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
What do you mean?
I feel that she fits perfectly well with both the Myrmidons in the style of her armour and the general "aesthetics" of the female models in Aleph, especially in the Indian side of the faction.
I agree that she doesn't really fit with the Thorakitai, but since those are IMO, god awful ugly models, I'm not especially disturbed by it. If anything its the Thorakitai that don't fit with the rest of the Aleph faction!
All in all, I love this model and I can't wait to get it.
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
I think that is intentional. She's the "Amazon". She's the lowest ARM of them all. The only one with monofilament cc weapon, and a bike. She's a special character not a standard troop.
Not sure how that is a "Feuerbach"...
It's a nice model though. I can't help but think the Feuerbach might be mislabeled.
It's the Feuerbach equivalent for Shasvastii. This is the first time sculpted for them. I think Morats can take one too but no sculpt yet.
The sculpts are nice, sure. But they are still blatantly out of theme with the rest of the Observance.
Compare these to Kusanagi, the Reverend Custodiers, or the Sin-Eater Observants. The only visual tie is the colors and the robes. Why the hell is it so necessary for the "bare thighs" motif on the bloody Moira? They clearly tried to armor up the rest of the model--but kept the stupid bare thighs. All it would have taken was an extension of the boots to make it a "full body suit" and I would not be so annoyed.
It's like the stupid Wildcat HRL. It feels like it belongs in an entirely different range, not the one it is in.
They are still better than what they had. Again, just paint the flesh something else. Maybe they have spandex.
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
What do you mean?
I feel that she fits perfectly well with both the Myrmidons in the style of her armour and the general "aesthetics" of the female models in Aleph, especially in the Indian side of the faction.
And that's the rub. She fits in just fine with the Vedic stuff, but not the Greek. She looks too similar to the Chandra SpecOps(which I was quite annoyed at as well after finding out that the currently existing profile is supposed to use the Thorakitai as the base profile)--which in turn looks far too much like they just found a random unreleased Posthuman sculpt, slapped a new name and the extra weapons into the blister and called it a day.
When you actually sit down with the Myrmidons and compare them to the Vedic stuff, there are quite a few aesthetic differences that jump out at you.
The first is, of course, the whole "exposed musculature" for the armor on their arms.
Then you have the style of their chestplates and the style of the leg armor.
I dunno. I might be making too much of it right now and maybe Myrmidons are in line for a resculpt to bring them into line with the characters that have been released, but it's just very irksome to see Penthesilea be released on the heels of the Reverend Moiras and the Wildcat HRL, both of which make it dramatically clear that Corvus Belli has no problems ignoring their own established aesthetics when it comes to making a female model rather than a male model.
I agree that she doesn't really fit with the Thorakitai, but since those are IMO, god awful ugly models, I'm not especially disturbed by it. If anything its the Thorakitai that don't fit with the rest of the Aleph faction!
They're not supposed to "fit with the rest of the ALEPH faction" though. Thorakitai are supposed to be primarily Steel Phalanx/Greek, not "vanilla".
We're probably going to see something with the Vedic/Indian Sectorial which will not "fit with the rest of the ALEPH faction" as well.
Personally though, I like the Thorakitai. They managed to combine a "professional military" look with a pinch of anime and some other bits(notably: the helmet crests and the exposed arm musculature) which visually identify them as being part of the Steel Phalanx/Greek Sectorial.
Nomads have long been my second choice army after Yu Jing, but I never liked any of the Nomad Faux-Catholic fetishist stuff. I'm not opposed to it being in the game, it's just a segment of the silly that I don't care to invest in.
These Reverend Moiras don't change my mind, but I do think they're a significant improvement over the old.
I love Penthesilea. She makes it very hard not to turn to Aleph.
As for the Caledonian Volunteer with HMG, I have trouble telling if they're a man or a woman, but in a good way. As in, it's not a bad sculpt, but it's a slightly androgynous figure in a kilt and covered with heavy clothes. It's actually rare to see sculptors pull off a "Hollywood ugly" face without making it look like they flubbed the sculpting job, but this figure has it. I think it's part of the charm of the Ariadna faction. In a world otherwise populated by cosmetically altered super soldiers, the folk of Ariadna are just normal people.
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
I think that is intentional. She's the "Amazon". She's the lowest ARM of them all. The only one with monofilament cc weapon, and a bike. She's a special character not a standard troop.
Being a "special character not a standard troop" is making excuses. Look at Ajax, Phoenix, or Eudoros. They are all "special characters" and still manage to work elements of the Steel Phalanx aesthetic in.
It's simply another case of "sexy sells".
Not sure how that is a "Feuerbach"...
It's a nice model though. I can't help but think the Feuerbach might be mislabeled.
It's the Feuerbach equivalent for Shasvastii. This is the first time sculpted for them. I think Morats can take one too but no sculpt yet.
True. The Feuerbach does seem to vary wildly from the Azrail to the Lunokhod. It just looks more like a boarding shotgun than a Feuerbach.
The sculpts are nice, sure. But they are still blatantly out of theme with the rest of the Observance.
Compare these to Kusanagi, the Reverend Custodiers, or the Sin-Eater Observants. The only visual tie is the colors and the robes. Why the hell is it so necessary for the "bare thighs" motif on the bloody Moira? They clearly tried to armor up the rest of the model--but kept the stupid bare thighs. All it would have taken was an extension of the boots to make it a "full body suit" and I would not be so annoyed.
It's like the stupid Wildcat HRL. It feels like it belongs in an entirely different range, not the one it is in.
They are still better than what they had.
Sculptwise? Sure. They're very nicely sculpted and clearly a lot of work went into them.
But that's the problem. All that work went in and Corvus Belli even hinted that the reason was to "bring them in line with the rest of the Observance".
They did not need to be wearing head to toe coverings with the most static pose ever, but it would have been nice for them to at least change the "one piece bathing suit" look that they had to the full skinsuit that the rest of the Observance (and the majority of Bakunin models for that matter) utilize.
But nope! Still gotta have dat ass.
Again, just paint the flesh something else. Maybe they have spandex.
And again, that does not always work. CB's sculptors go to great lengths to make it visually clear that it's bare flesh and not "spandex". Look at the Chandra or Penthesilea--they have "hip huggers" on, where there is a marked delineation between where their pants end and their flesh begins.
Again, Penthesilea isn't a Myrmidon. Even Phoenix the Myrmidon doesn't have the musculature on his arms; they're bare. She has, quite literally, the lowest armor in the entirety of the Steel Phalanx.
Not only that, but while the other Enomotarchos leaders barely look like the units they lead, Penthesilea is not a leader. She is a one-off loner, the only motorcycle, and the fastest unit in the army by far.
Plus, historically, Penthesilea wasn't even Greek. She was a non-affiliated Amazon that joined the Trojan War against the Greeks, fought Achilles, and lost.
Achilles is the invincible badass in the Trojan War (a Myrmidon).
Patrocles was his brother (a Myrmidon).
Eudoros was his top general (a Myrmidon).
Phoenix was a charioteer (a Myrmidon)
Ajax was the monstrous and bloodthirsty king (not a Myrmidon).
Diomedes was one of the guys in the Trojan Horse.
Atalanta was a Greek hunter blessed by Artemis.
After all that, Penthesilea was just some idiot that challenged all of them and lost. She wasn't even Greek.
Penthesilea by stats, by historical flavor, and by Infinity flavor, does not belong.
"New Release" time of the month - I've come to love and hate it!
Love it - new sculpts, cool additions to existing forces, maybe a new faction to pick up...
Hate it - Kan's bordering on insane ranting about how Hawt Chiks are ruining the game! And, of course, all the money the new stuff is going to cost me!
Alpharius wrote: "New Release" time of the month - I've come to love and hate it!
Love it - new sculpts, cool additions to existing forces, maybe a new faction to pick up...
Hate it - Kan's bordering on insane ranting about how Hawt Chiks are ruining the game! And, of course, all the money the new stuff is going to cost me!
The sad thing is that I actually hold things back on my rants...
I'm not opposed to them doing "hawt chik" models. I'm really not. I just wish they would make more of an effort to ensure that the models "fit" within the aesthetics of the range.
I know, I know. It's not a "regimented army game"--but would a little bit more of a unified, cohesive look kill them? They fight it like GW fights the Internet.
You know, it's a testimate to how fantastic all the scuplts are when people can have such petty complaints lol.
- Pentha doesn't match the feel of Steel phalanx? She's a speedy monofiliment wielding biker when there is no other bikers in Aleph... I think she deserves to have a bit of a different look. Sexy? Sure, she's a friggin artifical human being, of course they are going to make her overly attractive.
- Morias, there is a lot of people that like the sexy nuns with guns including me. If you want armor plated girls got for the Riot Grrls. If you want conservative looking models... why the heck are you playing Bakuinin?
BlueDagger wrote: You know, it's a testimate to how fantastic all the scuplts are when people can have such petty complaints lol.
- Pentha doesn't match the feel of Steel phalanx? She's a speedy monofiliment wielding biker when there is no other bikers in Aleph... I think she deserves to have a bit of a different look. Sexy? Sure, she's a friggin artifical human being, of course they are going to make her overly attractive.
I will definitely agree that my argument about Penthesilea is a bit petty. I just like things to be a bit more "regimented", and she is just so wildly divergent that it is offputting.
The model might grow on me, but...
- Morias, there is a lot of people that like the sexy nuns with guns including me. If you want armor plated girls got for the Riot Grrls. If you want conservative looking models... why the heck are you playing Bakuinin?
What "armor plated girls"? You mean the ones that entirely forego chestplates and for whatever reason have to have visible delineations of nipples on their armored bodyglove?
I don't know what "Riot Grrls" you're referring to.
Spoiler:
I do. But I don't like them; and have ranted about them a lot before. So to save Alpharius--I pretend they do not exist/
She does not fit with the rest of the Steel Phalanx. I was fine with the motorcycle and the choice of a female equivalent to Achilles, but the lack of visual coherence with the majority of the Myrmidons and Thorakitai is offputting--especially when put into the context of how this will likely affect Nesaie Alkie (the Thorakitai officer) and has already spread to that godawful Myrmidon Hacker model.
Very irksome.
I think that is intentional. She's the "Amazon". She's the lowest ARM of them all. The only one with monofilament cc weapon, and a bike. She's a special character not a standard troop.
Being a "special character not a standard troop" is making excuses. Look at Ajax, Phoenix, or Eudoros. They are all "special characters" and still manage to work elements of the Steel Phalanx aesthetic in.
It's simply another case of "sexy sells".
It does for me! Again I think it's intentional and works great.
Not sure how that is a "Feuerbach"...
It's a nice model though. I can't help but think the Feuerbach might be mislabeled.
It's the Feuerbach equivalent for Shasvastii. This is the first time sculpted for them. I think Morats can take one too but no sculpt yet.
True. The Feuerbach does seem to vary wildly from the Azrail to the Lunokhod. It just looks more like a boarding shotgun than a Feuerbach.
I think the alien weapons are the hardest to tell from each other. Especially Shasvastii. You pretty much have to play them to tell them apart.
The sculpts are nice, sure. But they are still blatantly out of theme with the rest of the Observance.
Compare these to Kusanagi, the Reverend Custodiers, or the Sin-Eater Observants. The only visual tie is the colors and the robes. Why the hell is it so necessary for the "bare thighs" motif on the bloody Moira? They clearly tried to armor up the rest of the model--but kept the stupid bare thighs. All it would have taken was an extension of the boots to make it a "full body suit" and I would not be so annoyed.
It's like the stupid Wildcat HRL. It feels like it belongs in an entirely different range, not the one it is in.
They are still better than what they had.
Sculptwise? Sure. They're very nicely sculpted and clearly a lot of work went into them.
But that's the problem. All that work went in and Corvus Belli even hinted that the reason was to "bring them in line with the rest of the Observance".
They did not need to be wearing head to toe coverings with the most static pose ever, but it would have been nice for them to at least change the "one piece bathing suit" look that they had to the full skinsuit that the rest of the Observance (and the majority of Bakunin models for that matter) utilize.
But nope! Still gotta have dat ass.
Again, just paint the flesh something else. Maybe they have spandex.
And again, that does not always work. CB's sculptors go to great lengths to make it visually clear that it's bare flesh and not "spandex". Look at the Chandra or Penthesilea--they have "hip huggers" on, where there is a marked delineation between where their pants end and their flesh begins.
Well maybe you are used to seeing women in a Burka but I see women in spandex and yoga pants all the time. If it was flesh colored you would think they were naked. Spandex and tights form to the skin and can create that look easily.
Well maybe you are used to seeing women in a Burka but I see women in spandex and yoga pants all the time.
Guess what? Just because someone finds the "bareass nun" look irksome does not mean they think every female model should be wearing a burka. I've already stated that I find this particular release so obnoxious because of the fact that they clearly devoted this much time and attention to a resculpt of the model--and yet still did not even bother to make the models fit with the rest of the Observance. All it would have taken was extending the "one piece swimsuit and thigh high boots" to fit together and we would not be having this discussion.
If it was flesh colored you would think they were naked. Spandex and tights form to the skin and can create that look easily.
And how many people do you know who wear spandex and tights underneath of thigh high boots and an entirely fitted upperbody skinsuit that for whatever reason resembles a one piece swimsuit?
If you like this design choice; fine. We can have a reasonable discussion about that!
But don't you think that trying to equate my criticisms of the design choice to the way women are treated in Islamic nations is a bit counterproductive to discourse?
- the HMG Volunteer is not as badass as the HMG Metro, but it fits nicely with the other Volunteers.
- Penthesilea is badass. I don't like much the design of ALEPH's swords, but it's a small detail, and not exclusive of this mini.
- Caliban. I'm not much into CA, but this guy looks pretty good, and along with the Noctifers I think I can say Shasvastii >>> Morat. What's the head in his blade from? A hint of a new Tohaa unit?
- PanO Support pack... nothing new. Still not a fan of PanO, I guess some new players will find it useful.
- Moiras are an unexpected choice for a unit to resculpt to me. I like what they have done, and I like the smaller HMG much better that the bigger one. The head without a hoodie looks a bit odd, but cool release nonetheless.
- the Tohaa... wait, no Tohaa? That's odd.
I'll buy the Volunteer. Penthesilea is badass so maybe, and I have some Bakunin nomads so I might buy the Moiras in the future to expand them. I only have the discount pack they offered in the BoW Infinity Week. And if I ever begin with Shasvastii, the Caliban, of course. The PanO pack is the most unlikely to me.
Well maybe you are used to seeing women in a Burka but I see women in spandex and yoga pants all the time.
Guess what? Just because someone finds the "bareass nun" look irksome does not mean they think every female model should be wearing a burka. I've already stated that I find this particular release so obnoxious because of the fact that they clearly devoted this much time and attention to a resculpt of the model--and yet still did not even bother to make the models fit with the rest of the Observance. All it would have taken was extending the "one piece swimsuit and thigh high boots" to fit together and we would not be having this discussion.
If it was flesh colored you would think they were naked. Spandex and tights form to the skin and can create that look easily.
And how many people do you know who wear spandex and tights underneath of thigh high boots and an entirely fitted upperbody skinsuit that for whatever reason resembles a one piece swimsuit?
If you like this design choice; fine. We can have a reasonable discussion about that!
But don't you think that trying to equate my criticisms of the design choice to the way women are treated in Islamic nations is a bit counterproductive to discourse?
My apologies I definitely do not want to turn it that way!
I work weekends in a mall so I see many women dress ways that want you wonder "what were they thinking". There's some things you just can't unsee.
Woot! New releases and BoW preview in the same day? On the good side, I'll be having Scots. In the bad side, I'm starting to think that the Wulver box was a joke. I want everything. Now. Please.
Kanluwen wrote: And people said I was crazy when I suggested that the Scots Guard would not have kilts.
1) They did?
2) Haven't they been saying you're crazy for a lot longer than that?
2) I know I have
On the kilt thing, both 1st and 2nd Battalion Scots Guards (that's No-camo version and camo version) can have a Rocket Launcher, so I think the cloack is just to be painted with a camo pattern or with a tartan pattern depending on what you want.
The Wulver Box will come when the Morat Starter Box does.
Also: The more I look at the Scots-Guard, the more I like him. You've still got a bit of the Scottish look going on (look at the inside of his camouflaged cloak to see what I mean) and he still has that "professional soldiery" look that will set him apart from the Volunteers and Wulver.
That is how you tie something into a faction's aesthetics without going too divergent.
Kan, Dakka's finest party pooper! What's wrong with ye man, the Penthesilea is a fething awesome model!
A quick review of each release this month (caveat - I love this game, and everything about it, so may not be too balanced in my appraisals! : )
Caledonian Volunteer - I have to admit Caledonians aren't near the top of my must-buy list, at least in part because of my fear of painting tartan. That being said, there are a couple of things I really like about this mini; the facial expression, of stern Scottish chin jutting out, and also the posing of him carrying the HMG - it looks heavy. I think with a power-armoured guy, robot or whatever, you can get away with the unrealistic poses with massive weaponry with an explanation of, "well yeah, just" but the sculptor doesn't have that luxury with someone who is obviously just a normal guy. Really great job on that account.
Penthesilea - It might be just my love of motorbikes, or being weened on Akira as a kid, but for me this is the best miniature that has been released of this year, by anyone. By far, I can't put my finger on why exactly I like it so much, but I think a combination of things - the way she has just two fingers hovering over the break, the upturned toe of her boot, the cold mechanical stare of the rider, the way that the swing arm is coming straight off the engine casing (even some thought has gone into the future technology). Just.... wow.. Even if I didn't play Infinity I would buy this model just to paint, and it deserves to be a poster boy for this game.
The only thing I can think of that's negative about it is that I had to open another window to copy-paste her overly long name, and then accidentally closed the window I was typing in because I had too many tabs open!
Caliban - Nice, again I don't collect Shasvastii but I love the style they've got going for them. Nice that 'Caliban' looks almost daemon like, is that a Karikuri head on his sword?
PanO Support Pack - Always liked that doctor model, and thought it was one of the best amongst the other faction equivalents. How do these packs compare against buying the bits individually, is anyone aware?
Reverend Moiras - Not too sure about the relaxed, at ease posing. I guess you will either like it or not, it probably won't go down to well if you are a fan of the more all-action models. They look like fun to paint though, I would probably give them a different colour scheme.
Anyway.. all of the other models pale in comparison to the mighty Penthesilea, that thing is an absolute work of art.
I can't seem to find mention of it anywhere on this board and the Infinity forum, but it was discussed at length on the O-12 podcast that Carlos noted that the Moira's were the first digital sculpts that have CB has undertaken.
No one has had any harsh criticism of the Moira's as of yet. So far most of the comments I have seen have been about 'why the update?' or 'not into Nun's with Guns'. CB must of got the digital sculpting right on these models if that is the general feedback so far.
I like the new Moira's a lot. Of course Angel's painting skill could make any lump of metal look good. The proportions look better than the old sculpts and aesthetic is clean and uniform. If I had one complaint is that they seem kinda samey in their features, look, expressions. I am sure they will explore the space with the digital medium as time goes on but that is only (minor) quibble I have.
PsychoticStorm wrote: Quite glad with the releases, would love to see the Moiras get more custodiers like and they did, the new Nomad weapons look great!
Personally the only thing I do not like is the calibans sword and that is because it comes with an attached head.
Also a really nice digital colour change done in the Infinity forum (not by me) for those that do not like much exposed skin
That does look better with the thighs covered up....
Von Skyfury is playing the gaming equivalent of women's "The one with the most shoes wins."
I don't understand the need for those support boxes. If they are all existing sculpts, do they offer a discount over piecemeal purchases? I'm asking because I'm aware of another comapny which doesn't.
And I know it's only the colours, but I find it funny that at first glance, the Scot Guard has a burberry scarf. Very fashionable.
Great new releases!
To be more precise:
Volunteer - decent but not too impressive
Penthesilea - as an Aleph player I'd buy it even if it wasn't as nice as it is (don't dig the sword style, but petty complaints aside, it's a lovely model)
Caliban - Holy moly, that was a surprise! They managed to make it be easily recognizable as a Shasvaasti troop, but still gave it a nice twist and a fresh and distinct look. One of the best miniatures in the sectorial. Now give me the box!
Moiras - Sooooo much better than the old ones! The proportions are an incredible improvement, that's the most important part. If one doesn't like the pointless nudity (which I prefer on actual women and not miniatures) then just don't paint it in skin color and this (down-)side of the sculpt will hardly show anymore. If the whole concept is not exactly to one's liking (like mine), just stay clear of them alltogether. It wasn't to be expected that they'd change the whole concept of a unit, when even the horribly sculpted first iteration somehow sold.
Scotsguard - So cool! This one has to somehow go into one of my Necromunda projects so that I can justify to buy one without starting Ariadna or ending up never painting it, because there are so many more important projects.
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Mathieu Raymond wrote: I don't understand the need for those support boxes. If they are all existing sculpts, do they offer a discount over piecemeal purchases? I'm asking because I'm aware of another comapny which doesn't.
At least in the case of the Aleph support box it was a definite discount and the new composition finally made it possible to get what every Aleph player needs without having to buy a spare Yudbot. It still made me mad that I had bought all the models seperately, but alas at least it's good for new players.
Mathieu Raymond wrote: Von Skyfury is playing the gaming equivalent of women's "The one with the most shoes wins."
I don't understand the need for those support boxes. If they are all existing sculpts, do they offer a discount over piecemeal purchases? I'm asking because I'm aware of another comapny which doesn't.
And I know it's only the colours, but I find it funny that at first glance, the Scot Guard has a burberry scarf. Very fashionable.
The purpose is twofold, it reduces the SKU and that is something retailers love and makes the product cheaper.
PsychoticStorm wrote: Quite glad with the releases, would love to see the Moiras get more custodiers like and they did, the new Nomad weapons look great!
Personally the only thing I do not like is the calibans sword and that is because it comes with an attached head.
Also a really nice digital colour change done in the Infinity forum (not by me) for those that do not like much exposed skin
That does look better with the thighs covered up....
Hmm... Those Morias just don't do it for me, kinda awkward... Almost cartoony, and have a posing for the camera look. Too bad too, kinda wanted to replace my old Moria HMG model, but I just don't think this is a step up...
I am not sure how to post the picture, but Studio Giraldez has some painted pictures of the new Scot Guard unit on its facebook page.
Never mind, just saw someone already posted it. Sorry.
what can i say...i dont dislike the original paintjobs, but with the thighs covered they do look better IMO.....
guardpiper wrote:I am not sure how to post the picture, but Studio Giraldez has some painted pictures of the new Scot Guard unit on its facebook page.
Never mind, just saw someone already posted it. Sorry.
Us the 'Post Reply' button instead of the Quick Reply box (is that is what you are using), and the tags (using [ not < ) and the webpage address that ends .jpg
Or to make it simpler, just hit 'Quote' on someone who has posted a pic and see what thay have done (when you quote it automatically opens their post and shows you the coding involved in what they do
yournamehere wrote: Hmm... Those Morias just don't do it for me, kinda awkward... Almost cartoony, and have a posing for the camera look.
Welcome to Bakunin?
It's kind of Bakunins thing, being all anime styled.
Oh I know bakunin quite well, I'll stick a moria in a list quite often but idk maybe it's the paintjob, maybe it's the pigeon toed models, maybe its the fact that I always imagined morias as looking more unique from each other (like the current models) that from the simple fact it's a box set makes them look kinda similar. (goes and re looks at models) On second view the sniper one looks alright, and maybe I can put together something else I like from the rest of the components in the kit so I might not totally pass on the box but I'm in no rush.
Also too cartoony might not have been the best word, but I can't really find the right word.
Had to have a think about the new releases. Well, the Moiras. I liked everything else straight off. The Moiras looked flat and unrealistic at first, and I mean in comparison to the current Bakunin range.
They have grown on me now. I'm not ecstatic but the new guns are brilliant and I'm seeing more details every time I have a look. I won't be rushing out for some but I'd be very happy to use them if I needed them.
All in all, bit of a wobbly one in my opinion but solid enough.
Any whispers of this happening, maybe in tandem with the rumored EI Sectorial?
I haven't heard anything about that, but I agree with you, the Charontid could use a resculpt. The general shape is all right, but the model hasn't aged nicely. More detail, dinamism and a new painjob could make a much better looking mini.
Maybe, but lets be honest CB departed from the direction of the original sculpts and models of that era look bad in comparison to the intermediate and new era sculpts.
The old Charontid does not look good next to the new one even with a better painttheme.
This is a Charontid for anyone who can't remember what model it is immediately:
Spoiler:
I think he still looks kind of cool (I've actually got one of these in my slow painting production line!) but I agree, if they approached this mini again I'm sure they could do something special with it.
Also, hasn't this guy got that awesome item that can take control of other minis on the tabletop? Sequestor or something?
Pacific wrote: This is a Charontid for anyone who can't remember what model it is immediately:
Spoiler:
I think he still looks kind of cool (I've actually got one of these in my slow painting production line!) but I agree, if they approached this mini again I'm sure they could do something special with it.
Also, hasn't this guy got that awesome item that can take control of other minis on the tabletop? Sequestor or something?
Sepsitor, only working on Cubed guys. Good I'm Haqqislam
I was looking at the figure again and I still like it a lot. It's just a bit more streamlined than the HMG one. I think it's even still up to standards. It's just a matter of taste.
For those that want to discuss good/bad models I'm going to make a thread in the Infinity section.
Ah thanks for the heads-up mate, noticed that they are now in at Wayland Games in the UK as well (for some reason they didn't do a circular with this month's releases, which usually alerts me!)
Charles Rampant wrote: I actually rate non-cube models slightly higher for that reason. Which is a bit mercenary, no matter how you look at it!
I like the idea of my little guys having cubes as... it means that they are not dead for ever when they die in a game, which I don't like the thought of..
It doesn't look to be a khanda. If it is, we'll see in closer pictures.
I should also note that it does not resemble a chand tora, which is unfortunate because that would have been a great little Sikh acknowledgement there.
I looked at the unpainted shots (Angel hasn't put them up on his painting blog yet, just his FB page so it'll be a bit before I or someone else link those--unless someone wants to save/rehost them) and it looks like the helmet is attached to his leg.
It doesn't look to be a khanda. If it is, we'll see in closer pictures.
I should also note that it does not resemble a chand tora, which is unfortunate because that would have been a great little Sikh acknowledgement there.
It doesn't look to be a khanda. If it is, we'll see in closer pictures.
I should also note that it does not resemble a chand tora, which is unfortunate because that would have been a great little Sikh acknowledgement there.
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Every example of a khanda/chand tora that I've seen looks like this:
Who was that guy (blogger?) who started spouting off about CB being anti-muslim before because of the Haqqislam faction? I wonder if any other nuggets will be forthcoming about this?
Pacific wrote: Who was that guy (blogger?) who started spouting off about CB being anti-muslim before because of the Haqqislam faction? I wonder if any other nuggets will be forthcoming about this?
don't take me wrong... I really hope that guy as a second head option.......
I'd hate to have to Cut off the head from his waist and try to fit it on his body...or kill a different model for a clean head. the pose and armor are really cool. that head wrap does not cut it for me.
who was Jonny Quests little buddy?
5deadly wrote: don't take me wrong... I really hope that guy as a second head option.......
I'd hate to have to Cut off the head from his waist and try to fit it on his body...or kill a different model for a clean head. the pose and armor are really cool. that head wrap does not cut it for me.
who was Jonny Quests little buddy?
Haji… great, the derogatory term used by U.S. Marines in the current Mid-east McDonalds/Starbucks expansion campaign…
Na… personally I like Sci-fi as hardline Sci-fi… and I wouldn’t like a Yu-jing in a coolie either… but that’s just me. Wonder what the bits are
5deadly wrote:Haji… great, the derogatory term used by U.S. Marines in the current Mid-east McDonalds/Starbucks expansion campaign…
Na… personally I like Sci-fi as hardline Sci-fi… and I wouldn’t like a Yu-jing in a coolie either… but that’s just me. Wonder what the bits are
If you read the background in the book it makes sense - India becomes a large part of Pan Oceania in the future, and so some of the units have an Indian culture/heritage as part of their background (such as this guy and the Bagh Mari).
PsychoticStorm wrote:
Pacific wrote: Who was that guy (blogger?) who started spouting off about CB being anti-muslim before because of the Haqqislam faction? I wonder if any other nuggets will be forthcoming about this?
Seriously? got a link?
I can't remember the guys name unfortunately, other than he was a prominent (very competitive?) 40k blogger. Just remember laughing a lot when I read the comments because of the combination of lack of knowledge about a subject, and then taking offence at something in error because of it.
5deadly wrote: and I wouldn’t like a Yu-jing in a coolie either… but that’s just me.
Not sure what garment you're referring to by "coolie", as Google and Wikipedia are only returning meanings for that word referring to people.
But keep in mind that many Sikh men still wear the turban today, often even as they perform very modern jobs. It's not a derogatory stereotype (of Sikhs), and it's not inconceivable that the practice would continue into the future.
This kind of thing is part of what makes Infinity so great, IMHO. They actually acknowledge (unlike certain other large, sci-fi miniature makers) that the world of the future might not entirely be populated by bland, nationality/culture-free whitish people.
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