GrimDork wrote: My problem is he is painted light years beyond my ability. I would see him, run out and buy one eyes s glitter, get it home tear open the blister... and then find out the goatee is a millimeter wide, at best. I'll try to mimic the scheme and fail horribly and be sad. Its too pretty!
Don't despair. That is a common enough problem, good sir.
The good news is we'll get to see how well he can paint Jean Reno's face on the Bruant mini soon. My guess: He'll paint it very well indeed.
Naga minelayer? Interesting. I could use one of those.
I'm in the exact same situation. I would love it if my stuff looked as good as Angel's.
So Bruant is a Jean Reno lookalike? How have I not heard of him yet? I think I might need this figure.
GrimDork wrote: My problem is he is painted light years beyond my ability. I would see him, run out and buy one eyes s glitter, get it home tear open the blister... and then find out the goatee is a millimeter wide, at best. I'll try to mimic the scheme and fail horribly and be sad. Its too pretty!
Don't despair. That is a common enough problem, good sir.
The good news is we'll get to see how well he can paint Jean Reno's face on the Bruant mini soon. My guess: He'll paint it very well indeed.
Naga minelayer? Interesting. I could use one of those.
I'm in the exact same situation. I would love it if my stuff looked as good as Angel's.
So Bruant is a Jean Reno lookalike? How have I not heard of him yet? I think I might need this figure.
The rumor is that Bruant is indeed modeled on Jean Reno. The ability to sculpt faces digitally has really raised the bar on detail -- you should see how nice Stephen Rao's face is done-- so I suspect that the Bruant mini will be awesome and will be a dead ringer for Reno.
T minus 14 days to 2 April. But the news probably won't be out that early in the month. Bummer.
The 0-12 podcast mentioned that it might be worth it to keep an eye on Beasts of War site. There's going to be big Infinity event in Spain, supposedly with presentation and seminar. Though I imagine the Spanish forum will throw few crumbs before any possible video is uploaded on the internet. It definitely has my curiosity, though I'm partially anxious at the possibilities, not all sit well with me. Will see, will see.
Seems there's a fair few updated sculpts appearing, makes me wonder what I've missed out on seeing as I only (sort of) started in December. Also makes me a bit wary of what I should be buying though as Aleph none of it should affect me but my live in nomads player is suitably worried about getting any of the older models especially if they update anywhere near as well as Sun Tze.
An easy way to tell the newest stuff is the order in which they appear on the web site...newest stuff is first. (FYI)
Most of the Greeks for ALEPH are quite new and in no danger of a resculpt. ALEPH in general is all new stuff, so I think you'd be quite safe.
Nomads will also be getting new stuff soon for Tunguska, so tell your Nomad player to hold off on the securitate mini, unless he really likes it :lol: For the rest, well, if he likes a mini go ahead and get it. It won't become obsolete or anything.
For grunts (basic LI) it might be worth getting the old ones as well. You might actually want to field more than 5 in a 300-400 list. To that end I would still recommend that anyone getting into Nomads snap up the old-style Aguaciles, dorky heads and all, before the new ones come out.
What interests me most about the updated sculpts is we seem to be getting characters at an abnormal pace, both new and updated. Seems an odd choice to me, as there's plenty of normal unit profiles that need either updated sculpts or just sculpts at all, but characters are getting churned out. Last month even had two.
I wonder if this has something to do with Aprils announcment?
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Ignatius-Grulgor wrote: Seems there's a fair few updated sculpts appearing, makes me wonder what I've missed out on seeing as I only (sort of) started in December. Also makes me a bit wary of what I should be buying though as Aleph none of it should affect me but my live in nomads player is suitably worried about getting any of the older models especially if they update anywhere near as well as Sun Tze.
The models to mostly worry about are units from the Core rulebook. Human Sphere and later tend to be 'safe' with a few exceptions, like when they dropped the Shotgun Odalisque when they released the link box. But overall, mostly worry about Core units. Even Core TAGs are getting resculpts, since CB confirmed the Squalo is getting redone.
Well the characters have two things on their advantage, its a unit with a single model, so its easy to say unit X done and move on and the Greek sectorial is so full of them that skews the releases towards their favor.
they also are focal points for the forces and some needed a resculpt, but that's secondary.
Absolutionis wrote: At least Infinity explains the existence of characters and personalities in combat scenarios with the Cubes and Lhosts.
Also that outside of Paradiso, small scale skirmishes are how engagements happen. Actual wars don't. So having Wallace or Tarik leading a skirmish makes sense. Also having leaders like Sun Tze and Saladin there makes sense - while they probably wouldn't take part in an offensive, their command areas would still get raided.
Compare to 40k, where they would have to believe every engagement is millions of soldiers going at it on countless planets every day, having Calgar personally show up at your little portion of one of those battles time after time is a bit of a stretch.
I love the Szalamandra and the Lizard T.A.G.s as is - and the fact that they look 'different' from current models (Iguana and Gecko) works OK for me, in terms of 'fitting the background'.
Something doesn't look quite right with that Naga.. I guess it's the gun, or the angle of the arm holding the gun. Even if all of the weight is behind the ergonomic grip, It's balanced awkwardly, almost as if it doesn't weigh anything. It would probably look good with the rifle slung over his shoulder and pistol in his left hand, though
As for Bruant.. yeah he's a little underwhelming in the sense that he doesn't really 'stand out' from the other Metros. But since I suppose that is the point, he gets a pass from me
Edit: Hmm, so the Metro's have two character choices now (3 models) and the Caledonians have three (four models), or four if you include McMurrough (five models). Even USAriadna has one! I sure hope we see a few Kazak characters when their sectorial comes out!
Siygess wrote: Something doesn't look quite right with that Naga.. I guess it's the gun, or the angle of the arm holding the gun. Even if all of the weight is behind the ergonomic grip, It's balanced awkwardly, almost as if it doesn't weigh anything. It would probably look good with the rifle slung over his shoulder and pistol in his left hand, though
The ALEPH style of combi rifle is tiny...and its users aren't human.
Siygess wrote: Something doesn't look quite right with that Naga.. I guess it's the gun, or the angle of the arm holding the gun. Even if all of the weight is behind the ergonomic grip, It's balanced awkwardly, almost as if it doesn't weigh anything. It would probably look good with the rifle slung over his shoulder and pistol in his left hand, though
The ALEPH style of combi rifle is tiny...and its users aren't human.
Fair point. But you have to admit that the Naga hacker is holding his rifle in a much more natural way. But then again, with ALEPH brand Super Strength, maybe he didn't need to hold it like that
Siygess wrote: Something doesn't look quite right with that Naga.. I guess it's the gun, or the angle of the arm holding the gun. Even if all of the weight is behind the ergonomic grip, It's balanced awkwardly, almost as if it doesn't weigh anything. It would probably look good with the rifle slung over his shoulder and pistol in his left hand, though
The ALEPH style of combi rifle is tiny...and its users aren't human.
Fair point. But you have to admit that the Naga hacker is holding his rifle in a much more natural way. But then again, with ALEPH brand Super Strength, maybe he didn't need to hold it like that
This actually shows how the Minelayer is holding it a bit better. I did think it was a bit awkward till I saw this shot.
The minelayer rifle does seem a bit awkward; I think the scale seems off in that the rifle seems too large for the model. I do love the idea that the minelayer, you know, has a mine.
A bit underwhelmed by Bruant. He looks emaciated. Now, I love MRRF, and I understand the Metros are about as basic as you can get, but I just expected something a bit more heroic.
GrimDork wrote: My problem is he is painted light years beyond my ability. I would see him, run out and buy one eyes s glitter, get it home tear open the blister... and then find out the goatee is a millimeter wide, at best. I'll try to mimic the scheme and fail horribly and be sad. Its too pretty!
QFT. I had the same problem with all the original metal Rackham Confrontation models. The figures were always so intricately detailed and expertly painted, I was afraid to paint them because they would look like garbage in comparison...
What is going on with Bruant's hat? If its supposed to be a beanie style, it should conform to the shape of his head, not extend it to some alien egg head proportion!
The Aleph Naga Minelayer looks a little too much like the Naga Hacker. It's nice that they added unity between the Nagas, but the poses are too similar.
Perhaps if the Naga was female or had a different hairstyle similar to how they differentiated the Devas.
spaceman spiff wrote: Hopefully, Bruant's head can be swapped out with one of the alternate Spec-Ops heads. Bruant is definitely not what I was expecting.
The more i look at him the more i like him but yeah, i was expecting...different. The only thing is the hat, the face is awesome, its just a shame about the weird hat
The Naga minelayer will certainly be joining my ASA. Similar pose to the hacker, but a much nicer mini, IMHO.
Bruant's hat... well hats like that can have a tendency to ride up above your ears if you move your head around alot. Call it dynamic sculpting at its most realistic. Either that or he had a kevlar insert for it.
A very nice month of releases. Sun Tze wins the month, IMHO.
T minus 13 days to April announcements? Hmm, perhaps new sectorial units? The Mukhtair or Numair? NCA just got their bolts, so...
The Zondcat is kind of weird. But then I don't really like most of the teeny robot guys they do (odd as I love most of the big robot guys they do). Everything else looks really neat.
But which faction gets him... Hmm, I'm thinking he might fit in Tunguska.
The 12 mini month... I suspect a CA starter box, since that is missing from the site now or a Pan-O starter, a box of two (bikers?) and a box of four-- not Mutts (they're in June or later), not morats, not nomads, -- Ghulam? Bagh-Mari? , and 2 blisters which can be anybody's guess. We'll know soon enough.
And there is the other big news for April. I doubt that the 12 mini release is it. (Perhaps a part of it. New sectorial?)
I've not actually paid much attention to the Infinity fluff (I just buy the odd model because it looks awesome) but I have been wondering what people from the USA or England have been up to in the Infinity universe...
The expedition that originally went to Dawn system, included a big portion of USA and UK personnel, they are part of Ariadna, but you cannot really associate them with their former countries, they are true autonomous populations with their own idiosyncrasies and traditions.
You know one thing about the 'new morat design' is that, especially with the Daturazi their mouths are open. Pretty sure none of the older models pre-Treitak did that?
Is USAriadna supposed to have TAGs? Maybe it'll be some sort of modified load lifter?
Is there any possibility of Yu Jing getting a thirdsectorial? Most of the other factions have at least three, even if the third isn't fully fleshed out yet. Think we might someday see a Korean sectorial maybe?
Barzam wrote: Is USAriadna supposed to have TAGs? Maybe it'll be some sort of modified load lifter?
Not really? It's been something batted around that "Ariadna is getting a TAG" and it seems to have been that the Anaconda was it.
Is there any possibility of Yu Jing getting a third sectorial? Most of the other factions have at least three, even if the third isn't fully fleshed out yet.
The next book is giving at least two Sectorials to the "main" factions.
Yu Jing--Invincible Army and a Svarlheima Sectorial.
Haqqislam--Caliphate and bikery Sectorials.
PanOceania--Svarlheima and Varuna Sectorials.
Nomad--Tunguska and possibly the Black Hand. Apparently there are some issues with the conceptualizing of the Black Hand which is leading to them potentially shelving the idea as a Sectorial of its own and instead rolling it into the Tunguska Sectorial like how Bakunin got the Observance.
Ariadna--USAriadna and RussAriadna sectorials.
Combined Army--No clue what we're getting here. Seriously, no clue.
ALEPH--OSS Sectorial. It's the Hindu/Vedic Sectorial, with Dasyus and things like that earmarked so far for it.
Tohaa--We don't know yet.
Mercenaries--Mercs are going to be getting an "official" army list. So far we know that it is going to be a pair of them, one of which is Beyhan Resources Limited...which means Kaplans.
Think we might someday see a Korean sectorial maybe?
A Korean Sectorial is pretty much off of the cards. By and large in Infinity, the various Asian countries that make up the Yu Jing faction are pretty well integrated to the point where you won't see a "special force" if that makes sense.
Japan seems to be the only stand-out difference, but the Yu Jing authorities seem to let the Japanese maintain their heritage/traditions and have a bit more independence as suppressing it would cause more problems than it would solve.
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Nomad--Tunguska and possibly the Black Hand. Apparently there are some issues with the conceptualizing of the Black Hand which is leading to them potentially shelving the idea as a Sectorial of its own and instead rolling it into the Tunguska Sectorial like how Bakunin got the Observance.
Much better choice, IMO. The Black Hand draw from all the ships IIRC (organized by the Mexican General, using Corregidor guys as well as Tunguskan TO troops and resources). And completing the theme of ship-dedicated forces is more interesting than another Special Ops branch among the many Special Ops branches in a largely Special Ops game.
Mercenaries--Mercs are going to be getting an "official" army list. So far we know that it is going to be a pair of them, one of which is Beyhan Resources Limited...which means Kaplans.
Given the "good guy mercs" image of Beyhan in the fluff, it would be really cool to see the other sectorial go the other direction: ruthless killers anchored by Druze, yuan-yuans and the like. Pirates, basically.
The other Mercs faction, if I remember correctly, was called White Star. And, yeah, I think its supposed to be the more dirty, bloody side of things with Yuan-Yuan, Scarface and the like.
Ah, I totally forgot about Svarlheima . Yu Jing could definitely use some more. Though, from the sounds of it, PanO is going to wind up with 5 sectorials. They don't need so many. Isn't the Invincible Army the regular military for Yu Jing?
I can definitely see an EI sectorial for CA. Shame they won't be doing the Exrah though seeing as they already have troops for them. I guess I won't be getting my combat lawyers after all. Maybe they'll come up with a new fifth race for the CA.
Now, the Mercs stuff sounds like it could be pretty cool. I like the idea of having one sectorial being all the shiny, high tech good guy types and another being a bunch of dirty pirates. Plus, more Kaplans. I'm cool with that.
Barzam wrote: Ah, I totally forgot about Svarlheima . Yu Jing could definitely use some more. Though, from the sounds of it, PanO is going to wind up with 5 sectorials. They don't need so many.
I wouldn't be surprised, when all is said and done, PanO ends with the most sectorials. There's the potential Bastion (Earth) force, but this is partly speculation and wishing on my part. I'd gladly trade Military Orders for Bastion.
I do hope CA doesn't end up with infected humans, I prefer aliens to be aliens.
Barzam wrote: Ah, I totally forgot about Svarlheima . Yu Jing could definitely use some more. Though, from the sounds of it, PanO is going to wind up with 5 sectorials. They don't need so many.
I wouldn't be surprised, when all is said and done, PanO ends with the most sectorials. There's the potential Bastion (Earth) force, but this is partly speculation and wishing on my part. I'd gladly trade Military Orders for Bastion.
I do hope CA doesn't end up with infected humans, I prefer aliens to be aliens.
Who knows, perhaps the storyline will advance to the point where the CA are knocking at the door of earth, and a defence force will be necessary?
I'm really looking forward to the new sectorials, particularly the nomad ones, haqq ones, Russian ariadna, Hindu aleph, and Mercs... This bloody game is gonna bankrupt me
Who knows, perhaps the storyline will advance to the point where the CA are knocking at the door of earth, and a defence force will be necessary?
Well, Yu-Jing and PanOceania are having at it on Earth too. Bastion is mentioned as PanO force that rivals Neo-Terra and Acontecimento armies, no small feat. I do not know, if you have Campaign Paradiso, but in there is an artwork with CA and holographic image of Earth. I think the real question is, will humanity be able to keep or defend Earth?
The Invincible Army IS probably the Yu-Jing Earth Army. Which faces the Earth Bastion Army from PanO... which I dearly hope means lots of ORCs. Including 32 point ones with combi rifles..
Alpharius wrote: I'm really looking forward to the PanO Svalarheima Sectorial.
Nisses?
Yes, of course!
JOTUMS in a sectorial?
DAMN STRAIGHT!
Well, and some more but we don't know exactly what yet.
It's safe to say that Nisses fill the same role that Bagh-Mari do in the ASA...so essentially we still have not seen the Svarlheima "Fusilier" equivalent.
Look at the Indigo spec ops mini to see the future of the fusilier. Not bad at all.
I know the rumor is 2 more sectorials each, but CB has changed plans when they decided that they were unworkable. The advance to the storyline apparently changed. I wonder if they will find all those new sectorials to be too much and cut back.
Gotta admit, I really am looking forward to a Caliphate sectorial moreso than a Khanate sectorial. The Caliphate gets the Khawarij.
If resculpts are a hint at all, I'd guess we're getting Caliphate/Al Medinat considering we got Tarik and not Izzat Beg. I'm the same - Khanate sounds interesting, but I want to see the Haqqislam super soldiers.
The change to the story advance is interesting - maybe the sudden surge in Infinitys popularity gave them a change of heart and made them want to draw it out longer? I know they had a 3 stage story planned for the game, but if the game causes your company to grow 75% a few years straight, you'd probably want to reconsider how you 'end' it.
The sudden April announcement news makes me wonder if they're scaling back some of their plans for "the next book" and are instead going to have more releases - for example it might just be only one sectoral force for each faction, instead of two, but we get it this year instead of next year. Don't know, really. But its a thought.
I wouldn't mind that. I always thought 2 completely new sectorials per faction was a bit much to add at once now. It worked for Human Sphere because there were no sectorials, Aleph had just been introduced and no Tohaa, but now there's plenty, plus more for Aleph and Tohaa. So adding 2 more sectorials per faction at once now seems pretty ambitious, especially from a balance perspective.
I know the Caliphate was supposed to be the super soldiers, but what was the Khanate supposed to be?
Some things I hope we see in the near future from the new sectorials:
-Cold weather TAG for Yu Jing
-Cold weather troops for PanO
-new non-kilt wearing werewolves for Ariadna
-armored werewolves for Ariadna (Now there's something that'd scare the opposition)
-heavy infantry for Aleph
-riot cops for Nomads
Barzam wrote: I know the Caliphate was supposed to be the super soldiers, but what was the Khanate supposed to be?
Biker clans. Kum Bikers and other assorted bikers and unruly non mounted infantry. IIRC Bostria mentioned something about a super jumping bike at one point.
They already have those... Riot Girls. Of course, they're just as like to be the ones rioting as the ones quelling a riot... but the gear and abilities are definitely perfect for riot suppression.
They already have those... Riot Girls. Of course, they're just as like to be the ones rioting as the ones quelling a riot... but the gear and abilities are definitely perfect for riot suppression.
Actually, the Moderators are "riot cops".
Riot Grrls have nothing to do with riot suppression or starting riots. It's just a reference to the punk movement.
I could do with different models for those. I like them in theory, and wouldn't mind running a link team, but I don't really care for the models. I got some Knight Sabers to proxy but they're waaaay too small.
About the Yu Jing Svalarheima sectorial...
The white masks on Yu Jing troops like Guilang, HacTao and DaoFei are a recognisable hint that they below to the White Flag Army.
Also, the Shaolin monks have the Svalarheima sectorial logo on their box. Look at those... they have white color scheme and snow on their bases.
Daofei are purportedly pulling double duty in Svalarheima and Invincible Army. Since their introduction the Daofei have been "the Infiltration Regiment" of the Invincible Army.
Kanluwen wrote: Daofei are purportedly pulling double duty in Svalarheima and Invincible Army. Since their introduction the Daofei have been "the Infiltration Regiment" of the Invincible Army.
All I care about is where I can take 2 of them. Ms. Daofei is getting a wee bit tired of having only the Guilang objective-grabber or some can't-hit-the-broad-side-of-a-barn ninjas backing her up in the middle of the table... Multiple infiltrating HI would present a fun type of play that's not available elsewhere in the game (that I know of?).
Re: Riot Girls, I was saying that their gear is good for riot suppression but they're probably more likely to be rioters. I get the reference, being from Seattle and all. And the riot gear too actually, having had riot weapons used on me. Ah, the 90s were an interesting time in this town.
They already have those... Riot Girls. Of course, they're just as like to be the ones rioting as the ones quelling a riot... but the gear and abilities are definitely perfect for riot suppression.
No no, I want dudes with face masks (possibly gas masks as well), riot shields and shock batons. There aren't many units that actually have shields, so it could be an interesting mechanic and allow them to get in close and beat the tar out of your opponent's troops.
I think that the closest that you'll get to shields will be the ODD and ODF.
But for boarding action tables, some sort of actual shield mechanic, or even some sort of mantlet might make for an interesting game. Normally, those long corridors...ugh, suppression fire and mines dominate too much
Red Harvest wrote: I think that the closest that you'll get to shields will be the ODD and ODF.
But for boarding action tables, some sort of actual shield mechanic, or even some sort of mantlet might make for an interesting game. Normally, those long corridors...ugh, suppression fire and mines dominate too much
The worst and least enjoyable games I had were played on internal terrain. I do not recommend it, unless of course you're a Nomad player.
Oh man, now that you mention it, with hi tech power armour and high heels, the Knight Sabers are totally up CB's street. An homage unit would make a great four person merc box for the new sectorial
Hmm assuming they weren't straight up Yu Jing, Sylia would have to be Pan-O (the money!), Priss would be Caledonian, Nene would be Yu Jing and Linna.. hmm probably Haqqislam.
Someone beat me to it but the knight sabers are a female merc team from the anime bubblegum crisis. A company makes a 25mm set but they really are 25 mm. You always hear about how small infinity minis are, but really they're just skinny, the knight sabers ended up being child sized at best. But... they *do* look kind if like robots, so I'm thinking of drafting them as zondbots for docs and engis.
This is why I was referring to models! I recognized the name and wondered if models existed for them
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GrimDork wrote: Someone beat me to it but the knight sabers are a female merc team from the anime bubblegum crisis. A company makes a 25mm set but they really are 25 mm. You always hear about how small infinity minis are, but really they're just skinny, the knight sabers ended up being child sized at best. But... they *do* look kind if like robots, so I'm thinking of drafting them as zondbots for docs and engis.
Knight wrote: The worst and least enjoyable games I had were played on internal terrain. I do not recommend it, unless of course you're a Nomad player.
What, really? My experience is quite the opposite, and I play Yu Jing. As long as you know what you're building your list for, it's tons of fun IME.
I play on Space Hulk tiles pretty frequently and it's great as long as you have multiple routes to objectives, etc. Hacking/destroying doors adds a bunch of interesting changes to your movement calculations.
Oh, and boarding shotguns shine (what they're designed for really shows), as well as HI with short-ranged weapons. Even the Crane was badass on a boarding action table. I'd love to face MO with my JSA or something HI-link-team-ish next time I play indoor action.
Knight wrote: The worst and least enjoyable games I had were played on internal terrain. I do not recommend it, unless of course you're a Nomad player.
What, really? My experience is quite the opposite, and I play Yu Jing. As long as you know what you're building your list for, it's tons of fun IME.
I play on Space Hulk tiles pretty frequently and it's great as long as you have multiple routes to objectives, etc. Hacking/destroying doors adds a bunch of interesting changes to your movement calculations.
Oh, and boarding shotguns shine (what they're designed for really shows), as well as HI with short-ranged weapons. Even the Crane was badass on a boarding action table. I'd love to face MO with my JSA or something HI-link-team-ish next time I play indoor action.
I guess Boarding Action is much like the Heavy Grenade Launcher - you need to know that you will be facing it and plan beforehand.
Anyone else *not* hoping for sectorials five days from now?
Just dropped $300 on Tohaa as a second faction, I'd like their shiny syndrome to last at least a few months before I dive wallet first into something from the new book.
That said, a double Dao sectorial would be right up my alley. Or even just sticking that into Imperial Service, which I really want to like but just can't bring myself to...
Dakkamite wrote: Anyone else *not* hoping for sectorials five days from now?
Just dropped $300 on Tohaa as a second faction, I'd like their shiny syndrome to last at least a few months before I dive wallet first into something from the new book.
That said, a double Dao sectorial would be right up my alley. Or even just sticking that into Imperial Service, which I really want to like but just can't bring myself to...
I absolutely want my Hindu Aleph sectorial ASAP.
When I first decided I'd play Aleph I was so excited about the concept of TO camo and nagas but everyone else was ooohing and ahhing over the latest Steel Phalanx release (I forget which actually.. but it still annoyed me!)
Sorry, phone is getting old and I forgot the vendor for a bit. Try
http://shop.groundzerogames.co.uk/index.php?_a=product&product_id=1747 And if its the mobile link I'll fix it when I get the chance. They are tiny, there are size comparisons in the Knight sabers section of my dakka gallery.
Neat models. Just out of scale with most things. They're modeled very closely after the first run of the series.
Knight wrote: The worst and least enjoyable games I had were played on internal terrain. I do not recommend it, unless of course you're a Nomad player.
What, really? My experience is quite the opposite, and I play Yu Jing. As long as you know what you're building your list for, it's tons of fun IME.
I play on Space Hulk tiles pretty frequently and it's great as long as you have multiple routes to objectives, etc. Hacking/destroying doors adds a bunch of interesting changes to your movement calculations.
Oh, and boarding shotguns shine (what they're designed for really shows), as well as HI with short-ranged weapons. Even the Crane was badass on a boarding action table. I'd love to face MO with my JSA or something HI-link-team-ish next time I play indoor action.
I guess Boarding Action is much like the Heavy Grenade Launcher - you need to know that you will be facing it and plan beforehand.
Except you should know your playing a Boarding Action before you build your list. As list build is meant to be after mission is choosing and the factions are declared . I think the fact it going to be a Boarding Action should be agreed on in the mission phase.
I'm all for new sectorials. I can't wait for the Caliphate Haqqislam sectorial with all its super soldiers, and the unruly biker Khanate sectorial idea is growing on me. I'm super keen to see the Tohaa sectorial as well, and I'm in the same boat - I've just recently bought most of that range. More options for your faction is always a good thing.
However, I'd much, much prefer it if the news had something about the hints Antenociti was dropping about using his drop ships in Infinity. Proper dropship rules and a supporting model range (say, a dropship for each faction) would be super boss.
Much more interesting to see imho is what Antenoctis will keep as terrain and the reworked advertisement colums which I regretted to have got in their old iteration. As long as they now keep the solarpanels, I am a happy camper. :-D
Also, the little pylon closest to the camera has an advertisement for "Beyhan Resources Limited"...which is the company that owns Kaplan Tactical Services.
Saphos wrote: Much more interesting to see imho is what Antenoctis will keep as terrain and the reworked advertisement colums which I regretted to have got in their old iteration. As long as they now keep the solarpanels, I am a happy camper. :-D
Pretty sure that our "old" solar panels are either to be discontinued or form part of the Deadzone scenery sets for Mantic.... (with 80+ new models gone through the printer already this month it gets confusing).
I hear that 'Phoenix Industries' are doing some seriously funky new solar panels for Infinity though....
Ah, I actually meant to write that I regret that I did not get the columns yet, sorry. ^^ Hmm, I just got two blisters of the old solarpanels, seems like I need to get another two as I think the are pretty neat and I think it will be a pity if they are discontinued. Though in case they are replaced with a more awesome model, I won´t complain. :-D Who is Phoenix Industries btw?
The Druze looks neat and nicely complements the others.
Oooh, neat. That Druze has a Yu Jing Spitfire. Finally, I can get my hands on a Druze without getting the entire boxed set.
I'm really curious what the line infantry are going to be like for the Mercs. I hope they're generic Contractors in assault vests with ball caps and sunglasses.
maybe one of the boxes will be resculpted Fusiliers? I wouldn't mind seeing some resculpted Djanbazan, though that will probably happen when the Caliphate Sectorial comes around (I hope).
So one of the 12 minis for next month is the Druze spitfire. That leaves a blister and three boxes. and no TAGs.
The Merc sectorial is coming? But that may mean other sectorials too... sweet.
April 2nd is only a few days away...but I fear we may be made to wait until later in the month. Arrgh.
Any hint at the next Tohaa models coming? I'd love one more box set / unit.
No. Sorry. I think most of the Tohaa are out in some form or the other at this point. Then again, The Tohaa seem popular enough, so I would imagine they'll get a few new units in the next book. Which is good.
Barzam wrote: maybe one of the boxes will be resculpted Fusiliers? I wouldn't mind seeing some resculpted Djanbazan, though that will probably happen when the Caliphate Sectorial comes around (I hope).
Djanzaban are already in Quapu Kalqi. I doubt they will be in the Caliphate too. But resculpts? Hmmm, torn on that, since I like the HMG and the Sniper. I suppose they could be updated...
So one of the 12 minis for next month is the Druze spitfire. That leaves a blister and three boxes. and no TAGs.
The Merc sectorial is coming? But that may mean other sectorials too... sweet.
April 2nd is only a few days away...but I fear we may be made to wait until later in the month. Arrgh.
Any hint at the next Tohaa models coming? I'd love one more box set / unit.
No. Sorry. I think most of the Tohaa are out in some form or the other at this point. Then again, The Tohaa seem popular enough, so I would imagine they'll get a few new units in the next book. Which is good.
Barzam wrote: maybe one of the boxes will be resculpted Fusiliers? I wouldn't mind seeing some resculpted Djanbazan, though that will probably happen when the Caliphate Sectorial comes around (I hope).
Djanzaban are already in Quapu Kalqi. I doubt they will be in the Caliphate too. But resculpts? Hmmm, torn on that, since I like the HMG and the Sniper. I suppose they could be updated...
The Djanbazan Sniper is the new design, along with the hacker. The rifle and HMG are the old design.
Yeah, I do kind of like the old HMG Djanbazan, but I really wish he and the rifle one looked more like the sniper. The sniper looks great, but his usefulness beyond sniping is seriously hampered by his pose.
No new Fusiliers though? Hmm. Well, maybe those boxes will be something entirely new that we weren't expecting. Or the new Alguaciles? Or maybe it'll just turn out to be the Shasvastii Gwailos put together in one box.
I'm wondering then if the new Djanbazan will more closely resemble the proportions of the female Djanbazan hacker? She is a fair bit smaller than the male counterpart proportionately (her head especially) although not sure if the sculpt was released significantly later than the others?
Will definitely get some new ones in any case, to combat the bloody annoying Myrmidons and their camo!
Fusiliers are certainly due for a resculpt, but remember that we have two new PanOceania Sectorials coming...and Varuna(the Cutter+Kamau Sectorial. ) has very significant ties to Fusiliers.
Putting it simply, when we see the current PanOceania vanilla starter pack vanish? Then we can start guessing Fusiliers are coming.
Hmm. Well, maybe those boxes will be something entirely new that we weren't expecting. Or the new Alguaciles?
Alguaciles are "this summer at the earliest, but more likely fall". That's straight from Bostria when I asked him about the Alguaciles a few weeks ago.
Or maybe it'll just turn out to be the Shasvastii Gwailos put together in one box.
The statement in regards to the releases was "12 all new models", not repacks.
Kamau are lovely, I do not think any of the models look that much dated. The older rifle design doesn't fit that well, but that is the only thing I'd want to change. Shame there aren't more of them.
Pacific wrote: I'm wondering then if the new Djanbazan will more closely resemble the proportions of the female Djanbazan hacker? She is a fair bit smaller than the male counterpart proportionately (her head especially) although not sure if the sculpt was released significantly later than the others?
Will definitely get some new ones in any case, to combat the bloody annoying Myrmidons and their camo!
She's 2nd generation Djan-- a much newer sculpt than the rest. Unlike the others, she has a backpack. And, apparently, an eating disorder. I generally field the mini as a doctor. Regenerating doctor in a link. Oh yes. I hope than in case of a resculpt they keep the aesthetic and burliness of the originals. Djan are supposed to be big. Not Tarik big mind you, but big. The presence of the sniper in the QK starter is puzzling though, unless CB has no plans for a Djan box, or has plans for a new Djan (hacker, rifle, HMG and ???) in the box. A doctor? Or a generic, or a new profile? 2 rifles? Anyway this is total speculation.
Their models aren't the best, they've been around a while, but their rules and fluff are really neat.
And they're one of the best Hackers PanO can get. Good WIP.
The -6BTS for defensive hacking is brutal. I hate to think of that plus cutter in a sectorial.
Tuesday or Wednesday for the news. But given the 'trolling' Antenocitis has been doing, I think we have an idea about some of it I doubt that I am the only one that wants to see the dropships.
I like all of this talk of Sectorials. Link teams intrigue me and I find that it is usually specific sub-groups of most factions that I like. Well, given nomads... I like both available sectorials, but other factions have a lot of models I probably wouldn't get just to paint and so certain sectorials, by gaining advantage through limiting choice/scope, are rather appealing.
I would love a new Djan boxed set, but I'd be just as happy if they were to make a single brand new figure. Maybe they could release a new profile (heresy, I know) for a Spitfire variant. They could pose him in just such a way that it'd be fairly easy to swap the arms with the existing rifle variant or with the help of a little surgery, swap with the HMG variant. I'd totally be down for that.
Also, Dog Soldier box. Needs to happen. I'd like to have some armored up soldier werewolves that aren't wearing kilts, thank you.
Pacific wrote: I'm wondering then if the new Djanbazan will more closely resemble the proportions of the female Djanbazan hacker? She is a fair bit smaller than the male counterpart proportionately (her head especially) although not sure if the sculpt was released significantly later than the others?
Will definitely get some new ones in any case, to combat the bloody annoying Myrmidons and their camo!
She's 2nd generation Djan-- a much newer sculpt than the rest. Unlike the others, she has a backpack. And, apparently, an eating disorder. I generally field the mini as a doctor. Regenerating doctor in a link. Oh yes. I hope than in case of a resculpt they keep the aesthetic and burliness of the originals. Djan are supposed to be big. Not Tarik big mind you, but big. The presence of the sniper in the QK starter is puzzling though, unless CB has no plans for a Djan box, or has plans for a new Djan (hacker, rifle, HMG and ???) in the box. A doctor? Or a generic, or a new profile? 2 rifles? Anyway this is total speculation.
That's a very good point actually - as the Djanbazan with sniper is in the QK box, doesn't that make the prospect of a new Djanbazans that much less likely over the next few years?
Personally I love that sniper miniature, and oh boy is he effective with the MSV2 (and regenerating of course!)
Indeed. That sniper is wicked. The pose is really cool, and sort of hides the clunky-ness of the HMG model.
On a side note, I do wish they were putting out more Blisters than boxed sets. It was a lot nicer on my wallet to have a 12-15 dollar walk in impulse buy that I could work on when I got home, rather than a 45-50 dollar chunk.
But it makes sense with all the link-team goings on, and from a gameplay perspective I think it helps. And yeah, there are still PLENTY of blisters to pick up... just doesn't seem like the shiny-new-stuff lately is that route.
Now someone stop me from buying an Iguana for my imaginary Nomad forces.
-Loki- wrote: There will have to be 2 boxes of 3, unless we get a blister of 2 which would fit a box of 2.
Any factions missing support units?
Well thats only if they are counting repacks and not only new models.
IIRC when the news came from Bostia, I recall a comment that he only counts new models when he says how many are coming. So Apparently there's no repacks in this 12 models.
So that leaves 11 models, 1 more blister and 3 boxes and no TAG. So if the last blister is another single, that leaves 10 models for 3 boxes, and no TAG. My Guess is a 4 model box and 2 3 model boxes, since 2 model boxes are generally remotes or larger models like bikes, and I don't know of any of those incoming aside from Kum bikers, but those are apparently quite far off. 3 model boxes are rare too, but do happen.
I don't think that it is the releases themselves for April that will involve AW, but rather the 'Big News!' we'll see announced on April 27th and 28th.
Bootlegs and Dire Foes would have been announced before now though definitely.
Regarding what might be coming, I'd be super happy with a Sakiel LRL blister. Or a Clipsos sniper. Those are pretty much what's left on my want list for my Tohaa.
-Loki- wrote: There will have to be 2 boxes of 3, unless we get a blister of 2 which would fit a box of 2.
Any factions missing support units?
Well thats only if they are counting repacks and not only new models.
IIRC when the news came from Bostia, I recall a comment that he only counts new models when he says how many are coming. So Apparently there's no repacks in this 12 models.
So that leaves 11 models, 1 more blister and 3 boxes and no TAG. So if the last blister is another single, that leaves 10 models for 3 boxes, and no TAG. My Guess is a 4 model box and 2 3 model boxes, since 2 model boxes are generally remotes or larger models like bikes, and I don't know of any of those incoming aside from Kum bikers, but those are apparently quite far off. 3 model boxes are rare too, but do happen.
Wait, what if I'm reading what you wrote right "only counts new models when he says how many are coming" then he wouldn't count models repack with new models. So there could be more then just the 12 new models.
I did find the base extensions a little irritating at times.
And my Maghariba Guard STILL doesn't have a base, because it is the most awkwardly sized model ever. Besides, eff it, it's a five pound metal six legged crabthing, I don't need a base for it. Plunk! Right on the table.
Besides, if I put it on a base it wouldn't FIT on half the Infinity boards.
-Loki- wrote: Those look like 40mm Haqqislam bases. Maybe were getting Kum after all.
According to Angel, they're 55mm bases.
That coloration however is what the Druze Shock Troops, Scarface, and the Bootleg Scarface looked like before the bases were finished.
Interesting. Potentially 2 merc releases in a month, one of which looks like a 2 model remote pack? The big news could be a merc sectorial, complete with a starter.
I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed that the Infinity Army list site does not have the Mercs as an option for list building anymore.
I don't know how long its been that way, but there is no Mercs list there right now.
-Loki- wrote: Those look like 40mm Haqqislam bases. Maybe were getting Kum after all.
According to Angel, they're 55mm bases.
That coloration however is what the Druze Shock Troops, Scarface, and the Bootleg Scarface looked like before the bases were finished.
Interesting. Potentially 2 merc releases in a month, one of which looks like a 2 model remote pack? The big news could be a merc sectorial, complete with a starter.
Maybe, but I'm not sure how exactly it would work out.
One issue is that remember while "Mercs" are becoming a faction...we're still going to see two(potentially three) distinctive Sectorials. We're going to see the White Stars(Scarface, Druze, and Valerya Gromoz) and Beyhan Resources (Kaplan Tactical Services is all we know so far).
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drazz wrote: I don't know if this is new or not, but I just noticed that the Infinity Army list site does not have the Mercs as an option for list building anymore.
I don't know how long its been that way, but there is no Mercs list there right now.
Mercs have been gone from the Army Builder for over a year now. The reasoning is that the Mercs "list" was not really for an actual army. It was just a collection of basically whatever you wanted to throw together.
-Loki- wrote: Those look like 40mm Haqqislam bases. Maybe were getting Kum after all.
According to Angel, they're 55mm bases.
That coloration however is what the Druze Shock Troops, Scarface, and the Bootleg Scarface looked like before the bases were finished.
Interesting. Potentially 2 merc releases in a month, one of which looks like a 2 model remote pack? The big news could be a merc sectorial, complete with a starter.
Maybe, but I'm not sure how exactly it would work out.
One issue is that remember while "Mercs" are becoming a faction...we're still going to see two(potentially three) distinctive Sectorials. We're going to see the White Stars(Scarface, Druze, and Valerya Gromoz) and Beyhan Resources (Kaplan Tactical Services is all we know so far).
We also know CB will change their minds if they have a new idea, and we also know they will not always stick to established conventions with new factions. Look at Tohaa - they're basically a sectorial already with their Fireteam Tohaa rule. Steel Phalanx links are very different to normal links as well We might see them ditch the idea of a vanilla Mercenary faction, and just do the sectorials they were planning.
-Loki- wrote: Possibly, but we haven't heard about them doing any more Dire Foes, as each spec op type has been covered - twice for PanO.
Indeed, one having a doctor and a paramedic skill, with 0.5 SWC to boot. Just to mention it, because it slipped out of your mind, combined army also received two dire foes.
I didn't mention Combined because combined actually have 2 different spec ops units - Treitak for Morat and Corax for Shasvastii. There's no basic Combined Army spec op. PanO has their Indigo spec op, but CB gave them two Indigos with Dire Foes. That's why I mentioned it.
Barzam wrote: Maybe those bases will be for Merc bikes? I hope not though. I'm not a fan of the motorcycle models.
Oh man, I sure am. The Jap bikes look great! And the ALEPH one is really cool.
I'm less of a fan of the Kum bikers... but I have a solution to that coming reeeeally soon. Muwahaha.
I am definitely enjoying the rumor that the USAriandna forces are going to have dirt bikes or ATVs or something, and I am going to continue spreading that filthy lie in the hope it someday comes true.
It's not that I think the bikes are badly sculpted or anything. I just don't like bike kits for some reason. I don't really like them in 40k, either. Though, I do feel that the JSA ones are oddly designed. They look too low to the ground and the front wheel is too small.
Looking at the "lists" that are "known," both Merc companies are still really lacking in a number of places.
White Stars are rumored to be Scarface, Druze and Valerya, which is very much lacking in heavy firepower, has no camo and can't even fill out an order pool (unless Druze become ALL).
I expect CB to fill in the Merc companies with already available models (maybe a lot of Nomads), instead of creating a whole new line(s) of models. Though, I would be quite happy if there were new models involved.
drazz wrote: Wait, there are going to be Merc bikes?
Maybe? We don't know.
Looking at the "lists" that are "known," both Merc companies are still really lacking in a number of places.
White Stars are rumored to be Scarface, Druze and Valerya, which is very much lacking in heavy firepower, has no camo and can't even fill out an order pool (unless Druze become ALL).
It's not "rumored". That's actually what we have been told is the "start" of the White Star list.
Druze are more or less guaranteed to be fieldable as AVA 5 or more, as the photo that was posted to their Instagram(showcasing the Spitfire Druze) is of a full link team of 5 rather than 4.
I expect CB to fill in the Merc companies with already available models (maybe a lot of Nomads), instead of creating a whole new line(s) of models. Though, I would be quite happy if there were new models involved.
I wouldn't expect Nomads, at all. One of the biggest things that they have discussed as having been a mistake was making the Qapu-Khalqi list able to field an entire force consisting of nothing but non-Haqqislam models.
These Mercenary Sectorials are supposed to be a more 'thematic' version of the Mercenary rules that we saw before. So far we know of two outfits. The White Stars(morally ambiguous group that prides itself on results rather than restraint, which features the Druze, Scarface, Valerya, Senor Massacre, and Tearlach McMurrough with the latter two having been recent additions to the list) and Beyhan Resources(a morally upstanding outfit that prides itself on professionalism, Beyhan Resources is a Haqqislam organization that counts Kaplan Tactical Services as a subsidiary that was established to allow KTS to operate not just in Haqqislamite territories but other Human Sphere territories as well).
Purportedly there is a third which seems to be a Nomad Black Hand fronted mercenary outfit used for deniability, called the "Van Orton Military Contracts Foreign Company"(which is mentioned in Campaign Paradiso as having Tunguskan lawyers as representatives...which is kind of a big deal fluffwise).
Barzam wrote: It's not that I think the bikes are badly sculpted or anything. I just don't like bike kits for some reason. I don't really like them in 40k, either. Though, I do feel that the JSA ones are oddly designed. They look too low to the ground and the front wheel is too small.
You realise that by saying you don't like Penthesilea that no-one on this forum will ever take anything you say seriously, ever again?
Barzam wrote: It's not that I think the bikes are badly sculpted or anything. I just don't like bike kits for some reason. I don't really like them in 40k, either. Though, I do feel that the JSA ones are oddly designed. They look too low to the ground and the front wheel is too small.
You realise that by saying you don't like Penthesilea that no-one on this forum will ever take anything you say seriously, ever again?
Barzam wrote: It's not that I think the bikes are badly sculpted or anything. I just don't like bike kits for some reason. I don't really like them in 40k, either. Though, I do feel that the JSA ones are oddly designed. They look too low to the ground and the front wheel is too small.
You realise that by saying you don't like Penthesilea that no-one on this forum will ever take anything you say seriously, ever again?
She needs a shorter bloody name.
Mine is always copy and pasted from whoever mentioned it previously
How many of those Arigatos can you get in a JSA force? That's where they go right? I suddenly have dreams of an Akira themed bike-oriented force dancing in the back of my brain. I vaguely remember it being something like 4 maybe? Is that named character in addition? Not a fan of Yu Jing overall but the JSA portion seems to have more hooks in me than I ever knew
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GrimDork wrote: How many of those Arigatos can you get in a JSA force? That's where they go right? I suddenly have dreams of an Akira themed bike-oriented force dancing in the back of my brain. I vaguely remember it being something like 4 maybe? Is that named character in addition? Not a fan of Yu Jing overall but the JSA portion seems to have more hooks in me than I ever knew
You can take 4 Aragatos.
Additionally you can take Asuka Kisaragi as a Lieutenant option and Yojimbo(no model yet) as a Mercenary option.
Well I'd say that's enough options for a strong theme. I may have to do some research and see if I'd like the minis that would help complete it as a list. Thanks.
IJW wrote: I've faced four Aragotos before now and seen a game with four plus Asuka plus Yojimbo. It wasn't pretty...
I play that list regularly. Not only is it quite effective (although patient/careful opponents and camo can ruin your day), it is also really fun. You move fast and make rash decisions, just like the bikers themselves.
As for Yojibmo, converting your own isn't too hard since Mushahsi has an independent upper torso. I just use a Heroclix version of Ghostrider for now Don't forget to put your krazykoalas down when you deploy!
Does anyone else find the Hacker-Biker sort of hilarious in concept?
I mean really, you thought texting and driving was bad... this guy is hacking bad guys when on a crotch-rocket. He should have to make a Physical Check every turn to not hit walls.
I mean really, you thought texting and driving was bad... this guy is hacking bad guys when on a crotch-rocket. He should have to make a Physical Check every turn to not hit walls.
No worse than someone firing a SAW one-handed while riding a crotch-rocket.
I mean really, you thought texting and driving was bad... this guy is hacking bad guys when on a crotch-rocket. He should have to make a Physical Check every turn to not hit walls.
No worse than someone firing a SAW one-handed while riding a crotch-rocket.
But when you fire a SAW from your motorcycle you just steer via the steel balls instead.
Maybe the future is made of low recoil, otherwise I can only imagine the tank-slapping that would cause.
Modern Day spec ops use uzis and stuff from Bikes all the time after all, but nothing as ridiculous as Boarding Shotguns and Spitfires...
...though speaking of that, how cool would it be to have a biker unit with D-Charges? Be like the Mossad(SP?) and drive by units and slap on D-Charges and wheel away.
I've been toying with lists trying to see what I can fit and what won't go. Can take all 4 Aragatos, their boss, and Yojimbo, with a reasonable amount of points left pending game size. No idea on specifics I haven't gotten to play yet. Without the book I dunno, does Yojimbo have any art, or might I take liberties? I was thinking the 2-model set Aragatos come out with an extra biker you can't field, would it be not-inconsiderable to modify one of those to better fit Yojimbo's stats/gear?
Also, Karakuri are too cool, I'm in this too deep already
GrimDork wrote: I've been toying with lists trying to see what I can fit and what won't go. Can take all 4 Aragatos, their boss, and Yojimbo, with a reasonable amount of points left pending game size. No idea on specifics I haven't gotten to play yet. Without the book I dunno, does Yojimbo have any art, or might I take liberties? I was thinking the 2-model set Aragatos come out with an extra biker you can't field, would it be not-inconsiderable to modify one of those to better fit Yojimbo's stats/gear?
Also, Karakuri are too cool, I'm in this too deep already
What about Penny with a headswap and a weapon swap? The whole "gender" issue might be forgivable if you do a good enough job...
I mean really, you thought texting and driving was bad... this guy is hacking bad guys when on a crotch-rocket. He should have to make a Physical Check every turn to not hit walls.
No worse than someone firing a SAW one-handed while riding a crotch-rocket.
There is nothing at all wrong with that, in fact it's perfectly plausible!
Two thing, 1)glad I started QK this year, 2) if CB suggested the hallway size I really hope they don't go to bigger bases as they won't fit in the halls.
Wow. That looks exceptionally impressive. It may even be rather cool for 40k Eldar terrain.
I love the detail in Tanrik and Saladin with their bases matching the terrain. Are those rectangular filigree-like designs wood-cut or are they stickers?
Damn. Those look good. I've bee waiting for some new figure news and this didn't disappoint. They look good too, considering there's only two bodies types in that set. I'm really liking the Hacker.
I guess we know now what one of the boxes is. I hope the other is either Yu Jing of Haqq.
Not the point. Prior to 2013, the "hair" on helmets was limited to Yu Jing, Haqqislam and the Myrmidons. It's only been since Campaign: Paradiso that we started to see this--and it began with a Nomad model of all things.
Furthermore not all instances have the 'hair' where it is easily removed. Look at the female Bolt from the starter set--the body is one piece with the hair sculpted to the torso. Good luck just "clipping" that off.
Freals. I mean yeah, the femmes are sexualized. CB is completely unapologetic about that, and that's fine by me, but obviously isn't everyone's cup o' tea, but a quick browse of their galleries and you should know what you're signing up for.
I don't see any of the weapons being oversized. The guns actually shrunk a LOT In the newer sculpts.
Unless you mean the Missile Launcher...
MISSILE. LAUNCHER.
Those tend to be big, unless they're one-time-use like the DEPs.
They look fine to me. The Sniper Rifle looks well sized, and the Boarding Shotgun just looks odd because of the design change. They certainly look a lot better than the original Fusilier Combi Rifles with the cola-can multi-barrels and the sights that are blocked by the top-magazine.
Sangarn wrote: You are wrong, they where reduced in size with the military order,
they put it back oversized like at the begining of the first infinity mini ...
btw only the missle launcher is correct sized, i speak about the combi and like
Sangarn wrote: You are wrong, they where reduced in size with the military order,
they put it back oversized like at the begining of the first infinity mini ...
btw only the missle launcher is correct sized, i speak about the combi and like
You're aware that there are no Combis in that box, just support weapons and a Boarding Shotgun?
Are you saying the two weapons on the left are the "new" combis and the four on the right (different sprues) are the "old combis?
If so, I think there is a vast improvement. Slightly longer, but that narrowed barrel is way better/more realistic. The arms are even better sculpted.
There are models in Infinity that are not the best in the industry, but as a whole the range is certainly one of the top lines, especially given the total number of sculpts.
Its combi rifle plus light shotgun, the weapon has been completely redesigned, the butstock is extended and the models are MI, which may or may not have an influence in the next generation design.
Only thing I do not like is the internal size difference, but I feel it is lost in the assembled models.
I agree it looks okay on the model, that's not the problem. Greatly prefer the redesigned look, too.
However, it does rather remind me of the look on, say, the auxilia; not bad models either, but the lovely, delicate, even almost realistic weapons size looked so promising for a while. In that regard, I share his disappointment.
and the rather substantial difference between male and female bolts is a shame, too - so far, aside from an HI model or so most PanO models had kept that subtle by CB's standards, at least (and even that HMGSG is acceptable IMO). these barely look like they're from the same unit.
PsychoticStorm wrote: beyond male and female bolt combi not been the same, which is odd, I see no problem.
Same size with old combies, with butstock extended.
Exactly what i thought: blind.
female weapon are sized like normal and male are oversized 20% in comparaison of previous release.[/u]
not only the weapon but the body too is oversized.
its a total change of the concept of infinity minis !
I think that CB is aiming at teenage guy who whant boobs and bulky dude like in video game (WoW) - just look at the new morat !
This is new and i will no longer support the infinity game. If you like it (probably like a lot of people) fine, i dont.
PsychoticStorm wrote: beyond male and female bolt combi not been the same, which is odd, I see no problem.
Same size with old combies, with butstock extended.
Exactly what i thought: blind.
female weapon are sized like normal and male are oversized 20% in comparaison of previous release.[/u]
not only the weapon but the body too is oversized.
its a total change of the concept of infinity minis !
I think that CB is aiming at teenage guy who whant boobs and bulky dude like in video game (WoW) - just look at the new morat !
This is new and i will no longer support the infinity game. If you like it (probably like a lot of people) fine, i dont.
It is not new, go to Infinity web site. There is a word that been there since the start that covers CB design concept for the game. Can you see it?
Wow those are great looking figures and great looking paint jobs. Very rare to be disappointed by infinity figures, hence the reason why I have dozens of different figures and haven't ever played a single game.
no its new. ATM the only bad sized (weapon/body/differancemale female) are 2 boxs of bolt and the new morat stater (in the case of morat look at the combi of oznat, well morat are alien i dont care)
never before female had smaler weapon than male ... look at the suiss guard HMG
So you make a trend out of two releases, one you don´t care about? Yeah, the sky is obviously falling and it is no longer worth to support Infinity. ;-) You are making a fool out of yourself. When they consistently change to this pattern you might have a case to complain. So far? Not so much. All ranges from CB have dud models in them, even the newer ones. Ballet dancing Hospitaller HMG anyone? ^^
I like the Bolts and think they fit in fine with the rest of the range. Just the inconsistency within them is strange but I didn´t notice so far. I do not really like the weapon design change in general but so far I could contain that to just the Bolts as I got the rest of the line mostly complete.
That size differential between male and female's combis about the same as the differential between Kirpal Singh's asssault pistol and Stephen Rao's assault pistol. I think that it is a by-product of the digital sculpting. I hope it stops here.
Two boxes (of 4 and 2?) and one blister (of 1) to go. Could the blister be the Bolt w/Drop Bear? 8 Bolt minis, geez. Seems a bit of an overkill for a unit that still wants for the rules for its weapon, and its sectorial.
And how did I rack up 300 posts? Oh yeah, never mind. Dakka keeps stats on that, I see.
Those Bolts look fantastic. If I hadn't taken a vow to stop letting single releases make me start factions, I'd grab them and the combi blister.
So what's left this month - 2 boxes and a blister, with 7 models in them? Carlos confirmed this month was all new on the Australian(?) Infinity facebook page, so we're not going to see any repacks in there, so a repacked starter is out.
Angel has been teasing that pair of 55mm bases and what looks like a merc biker, so a box of 2 merc bikers and another box of 4, plus another single blister?
Unfortunately I'm not hopeful for anything Haqq, since the Druze spitfire is effectively the Haqq release this month. Not that that is a bad thing.
i liked the bolt myself too, I bought the blister. There are nice on picture.
The gak happen when i put the dude bolt next to my guarda di asalto, he's bulkier ! And when i compare the size of the combi with all other combi of the range etc ..
if for you, an MI bulkier than an ILO is okay
if for you, different size for the same weapon inside the same unit is okay
then I surrend.
as it's slightly off topic I will stop this whine here. I just wanted to share my point of view, not starting an internet war.
Well, yes you have made the point several times now. Personally, I hope you don't stop painting Infinity stuff as your work in the gallery is fantastic (even if your table-manners could do with a little work )
Also, not sure I see the move towards 'guns and boobs' as you put it - the Morats 'character' might have changed, but they are arguably far superior sculpts to the original versions. It's no surprise to hear that they are selling so well.
Pacific wrote: Also, not sure I see the move towards 'guns and boobs' as you put it - the Morats 'character' might have changed, but they are arguably far superior sculpts to the original versions. It's no surprise to hear that they are selling so well.
I wouldn't even say arguably. Whether you like the new Morat design or not, the quality of the sculpt is far superior.
I suppose that fluffwise, one could argue that the Bolts are using weapons from a different manufacturer, thus their weapons look different. It would explain why the boarding shotgun and the spitfire look so different. I mean, geez, the spitfire's gone from being a a weapon that could be fired one-handed (Guarda de Assalto & Order Sergeants) to being the two handed LMG sized beast that Bolt is carrying.
I think we all agree that the weapon charts and classifications in Infinity almost universally refer to a class of weaponry rather than a specific make or model. There's no way in hell that PanO Combi rifles and Nomad Combi rifles and Morat Combi rifles are the same gun, they just have similar performance as far as the rules go.
The difference in scale has gotten odd. Should I put Rao next to my heavy infantry he will look bulkier. I don't understand why Corvus Beli decided to increase the scale. I am rather fond on the past scale and subtle differences across the range.
I'll get the box, eventually. Would prefer Fusiliers, Regulars, new Bagh Mari, missing light TAG, anything else really, wouldn't even mind if we skipped another month.
Hunh. I'm not a fan of those NeoTerra at all. Partly because the belly plate looks like like a boiler plate; solid and slab-like. I don't think the paint job helps.
Fortunately misses are rare, and I'm probably in the minority.
Knight wrote: The difference in scale has gotten odd. Should I put Rao next to my heavy infantry he will look bulkier. I don't understand why Corvus Beli decided to increase the scale. I am rather fond on the past scale and subtle differences across the range.
I'll get the box, eventually. Would prefer Fusiliers, Regulars, new Bagh Mari, missing light TAG, anything else really, wouldn't even mind if we skipped another month.
Weapons randomly getting bigger could be tied to some models being randomly bigger because CB wants some models to be bigger. Your example of Rao fits with Tarik. Tarik is huge next to a regular Ghulam - and his rifle and sword are proportionally bigger as well.
The female Bolt being smaller and having a proportionally smaller rifle - or the male bolts being bigger and having proportionally bigger rfiles - could be a side effect of 3D modelling. Someone decided either the female needed to be smaller in stature, or the males bigger in stature, and so they scaled it down at the 3D sculpt stage, either not realising or not thinking anyone would mind that the rifle scaled up or down too. Same with Tarik - someone might have decided he needed to be Ajax scale for impressiveness, so they scaled the overall sculpt up, but the same thing happened to the weapon.
It could simply be Corvus Belli still finding their feet with 3D sculpts for infantry.
Or maybe she has a carbine version of the males full size weapons...such as a M4 compared to a M16?? Just a thought...On topic though I think they are great and will need to get a Neoterran Capitaline Army soon with a focus on the bolts!
-Loki- wrote: I hope the big news is more than just partnering with Antenociti for terrain. They didn't make such a fuss for any other terrain partners.
Now, partnering with them for his dropships... Yeah, I'll take that.
I'm personally starting to think that the terrain is going to actually be part of a "project" that they've batted around before, in regards to an "Infinity Games in a Box" set. Two 200ish points forces, scenery, and a few missions.
Infinity doing two player starter sets would actually be pretty big news.
It is something that has been bandied about over time but nothing ever really came of it. I think if we were to see it though, it would be a really interesting thing to actively see. It might be a "bundle" where you buy two faction starters and then get a third "starter kit" which is scenery and things like that--or it might be that the terrain is going to be starters all by itself.
That would be pretty cool. And it would be an excellent think for a store to pop open, paint, and set up as a demo table. It could also attract new players, which would be nice, but a big price tag might make some people cringe.
Not us though, since we'll probably already have everything in said set.
I imagine it'll be a lot like when GW puts out a starter box with two factions in it and a bunch of buddies split the price and split the armies.
I just hope and pray if that does happen, they don't stuff some exclusive model into the box as enticement for the Vets to pick it up.
Well, if they put in the new, fresh sculpts for say... PanO and Yu Jing? Replaced the old Fusilier and Zanshi models with updates and new stuff? That could be alright. I'd pick it up and split the forces with a buddy.
But if they just pre-packaged it with a bunch of stuff already in the line, it would be incentive to the new player, but not the Vets. But throwing an exclusive in would make us all wiggle in our seats... and obsessively check ebay.
But hey, they are a business after all, in the end it is their call. And I honestly want them to succeed at whatever they do.
I suspected Kum this month. So a box of two. Leaves one box of 4 and a blister of 1.
Wow! What a tremendous improvement over the old ones. I never got the old ones, since I disliked the look. These... fantastic. Look like I learn to play bikers Even with 55mm bases
I wonder if they will release re-sculpts of the other two as well... Or maybe another khanate mini, the Hunzakut girl w/LGL...
Note the wheel from the old Kum monocycle in the top two photos
This may be the first time I audibly gasped while looking at a mini. They're beautiful and perfect in every way. They're rugged and badass while still having an overall high-tech look.
The smoke-launchers are a bit distracting, but they could just be custom additions added after-market. It also blatantly differentiates them from the Aragoto.
I'm astounded! Beautiful minis as always but they're in decent poses this time too! The detail is just nuts.
I was disappointed with the Bolts, fantastic miniatures don't misunderstand but their poses seem a bit nonchalant to me, as though they're posing for Soldier of Fortune or some other tripe
This release on the other hand... What a giant step up from the old minis! Amazing!
And that's it... I don't need to look at any other miniature this month. Nothing can be better than this Kums... Kuming at me... all over my wallet... over and over...
There's the potential Bastion (Earth) force, but this is partly speculation and wishing on my part. I'd gladly trade Military Orders for Bastion.
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Anyone want 4 mono wheel kum bikers!?
