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So, I've got a solution. Davicus, why don't you post your location specifics here since apparently your PM's aren't going through. Dash is eager to play you, and his wife is eager to go to England.

Lol who doesnt want to go to England. Well maybe the Irish.

Glad to see you found VASSAL enjoyable, and it's nice to see that (almost...) all tension has left the thread. (Now it's just Dash and Davicus.)

I think you might want to try out a battlewagon and a KFF. Both have their merits.

i would just like to add on a side not is that he did get to see what my list was made up of before picking his army and list so for all I know is he picked one in paticular he new would have no trouble against this list, but thats just a hypothetical statment =P. I had to throw an excusse out there somehow lol, in all of it, it was good play dark eldar for once, don't see it that often at all. Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

It's his normal army list. He's sending it to me to paint

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

Davicus wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:And yet we got to 6 pages, pushing seven. =p

I just like calling peoples' bluffs. Davicus could just as easily play a game against me on Vassal with his promised 3 battleforce boxes as the prize and save a potential $3000

I sent this guy a pm, and instead of replying, he is again trash talking here. Either you are just a prick, or simply a troll.

LOL, I am starting to think your wife married herself to someone with a maturity of a high school boy.

It looks to me that the only troll here is you, Davicus. Once again I am given a perfect example of those who give us all a bad name.

Hulksmash wrote:It's his normal army list. He's sending it to me to paint

I was joking lol

yeah dav you just seem needlessly inflammatory to me, why do you have to get so pissed about who has the best army list anyway? Dont you play for.. You know, fun? :-)

I agree that this is how I would deploy against an army like this. I just don't agree that it would be "cake" to deal with it- and no matter how you say otherwise, it won't make it true in a real gaming situation- just in theory. You aren't taking into account anything they would do to counter the strategy of a single squad screening the army (such as shooting a hole in it). Even an extreme list like the one posted here could dismount a squad, or have the stormboyz shoot, or any other variety means to punch through thin kroot (or were you thinking fire warrior?) armor.

You are going to shoot down T4, 3+ coversave kroot with BS2, Assault 1, 12" pistols ;p?

Don't see how you'd get through them other than by tankshocking or assaulting with this list.

Btw, I'm impressed to see that the game actually took place and that lessons were learned - all too often people let their ego get in the way.

And if you can get forest on your table, the kroot can go to ground for a 2+ cover save against the shooting since they're going to get beaten up in assault anyway.

Os - Glad to see you got an eye opener with your first major ass kicking. It sucks, but always a learning experience if you ask me. You were just showed how 1 list, is never the ubertakeverythingandlaugh list. Your list would do great against guns lines, and things of that nature. But basically Dash showed your lists major weakness, vehicles!

Never rely on one army build, youve got to be flexible. I still like your list (minus the cover save BS) and I bet that its a blast to play with

Can anyone explain what exactly is the problem with the cover saves? I can see how his trukks can get them first turn, along with the storm boyz. After he moves though no more saves.

Two units intermeshed so that both give each other mutual cover is frowned upon in a lot of places.

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

I'd drop the storm boyz. And then the trukk boyz. And then the trukkz.

Dashofpepper wrote:Two units intermeshed so that both give each other mutual cover is frowned upon in a lot of places.

Why? It looks like he legally gets cover from that set up.

While units giving each other is technically legal most people feel it goes against the intent of the codex.

Kevin Nash wrote:

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

I'd drop the storm boyz. And then the trukk boyz. And then the trukkz.

That made me chuckle out loud. He *is* dropping the whole thing. He's trying to sell them to fund his tyranids, and there was some talk elsewhere in this thread that this thread might have been intended to pump up potential buyers about how awesome the list was.

Dedrith wrote:

Davicus wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:And yet we got to 6 pages, pushing seven. =p

I just like calling peoples' bluffs. Davicus could just as easily play a game against me on Vassal with his promised 3 battleforce boxes as the prize and save a potential $3000

I sent this guy a pm, and instead of replying, he is again trash talking here. Either you are just a prick, or simply a troll.

LOL, I am starting to think your wife married herself to someone with a maturity of a high school boy.

It looks to me that the only troll here is you, Davicus. Once again I am given a perfect example of those who give us all a bad name.

Just curious who the "us" is referring to...

Well he has a Singapore flag i believe so maybe Asians or forum users..lol

Kudo's to both of you for actually fighting this out in a real game and getting back to Dakka to report what happened!

Kevin Nash wrote:

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

I'd drop the storm boyz. And then the trukk boyz. And then the trukkz.

So a lone, unarmed big mek is a solid army? xD

Pika_power wrote:

Kevin Nash wrote:

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

I'd drop the storm boyz. And then the trukk boyz. And then the trukkz.

So a lone, unarmed big mek is a solid army? xD

Is that Big Mek named Chuck Norris?

Monster Rain wrote:

Pika_power wrote:

Kevin Nash wrote:

I grappled the shoggoth wrote:

Oswitz wrote: Also I like to say this thread wasn't to actually play against someone it was to explain how I used my stormboyz with my trukks and I hoped the first two turns showed off the trick.

You can drop the storm boyz, and throw a KFF on that big mek, potentially better results. And it will save you gobs of points to spend on lootas or tank bustas or snikrot.

I'd drop the storm boyz. And then the trukk boyz. And then the trukkz.

So a lone, unarmed big mek is a solid army? xD

Is that Big Mek named Chuck Norris?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. Chuck Norris stopped being funny about 5 years ago.

Also, I'd just like to mention that this thread is an absolute train wreck and it has me wondering where the hell the mods are.


[MOD] in....3.....2.....1.....

Monster Rain wrote:

Dedrith wrote:

Davicus wrote:

Dashofpepper wrote:And yet we got to 6 pages, pushing seven. =p

I just like calling peoples' bluffs. Davicus could just as easily play a game against me on Vassal with his promised 3 battleforce boxes as the prize and save a potential $3000

I sent this guy a pm, and instead of replying, he is again trash talking here. Either you are just a prick, or simply a troll.

LOL, I am starting to think your wife married herself to someone with a maturity of a high school boy.

It looks to me that the only troll here is you, Davicus. Once again I am given a perfect example of those who give us all a bad name.

Just curious who the "us" is referring to...

Believe me I meant no offence, but there are those who think very poorly of Wargamers, due to the few of us with overconfident, immature, and condescending attitudes towards others.

Those of us such as Davicus.

@ Dedrith: Oh I wasn't taking offense, I was genuinely curious as to what you were referring to. No worries!

@ Darth Bob: Chuck Norris will always be funny. I also don't take advice as to what is hip from Wargame message boards.

Monster Rain wrote: I also don't take advice as to what is hip from Wargame message boards.

So how about we all hop on a Yu-Gi-Oh board and learn crazy mad cool phrases like "I'm throwin' down a face down and endin' mah turn!"

Radical idea dude.

Hulksmash wrote:While units giving each other is technically legal most people feel it goes against the intent of the codex.

Yeah and? People feel eldrad and yriel riding around with 10 warlocks and a full aspect warrior army also goes against the intent. Some people feel nob bikers also goes against the intent of the dex. I mean if he moves at all or loses 5 or so stormboyz the save is gone for at least one of the two.

you gott aget some kans baby.... 2 gprs of 3 with 2 grotzookas and a skorcha in each grp. Your mek needs a ff and it is a cheap upgrade compared to most otehr armies' hqs. The trucks are on, but in my grp of 12 boyz w/nob n klaw i have paint, a ram, and a b. plank on my trucks. I like to use a Mek/ff and Warboss or Warphead hq combo. Burnas are fun as hell runnin em around in a bw. I'm not a fan of stormboyz, I have em for apoc fights when I need points, but I don't normally use em.

Last word in badass ork units: Nob Bikers. They are insane.