Kanluwen wrote: IT'S ALMOST HERE! Yaaaaaaaaaaaay, Corregidor!
Not trying to kill your happiness but... being 4 minis I thought this would be a 4 minis set and not a selection from a starter
That's a good point, but considering the contents of the box (3 Wildcats, a Hellcat, an Intruder, and an Alguacil Hacker) it might be that he's doing 4 of them at one time while the other two get done together due to shared color palettes/techniques.
Something I forgot to mention is that Angel's post was for something he's doing a step by step of; not the complete box. The Wildcats are something he's said before he's going to do a step by step of.
I now feel comfortable making predictions as to what is what.
From left to right:
Wildcat(male), Hellcat(female), Wildcat(female), Wildcat(male).
That leaves two models out of the picture--the Intruder(male) and Alguacil Hacker(female). Considering the similar color palettes for the Hellcats and Wildcats it's making more and more sense in my mind.
That video was amusingly haphazard with constant "I'm not sure if I'm saying that right" everywhere. It's endearing in a way that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Glad to see MWG covering Infinity. They're a rather authentic bunch of folks.
Absolutionis wrote: That video was amusingly haphazard with constant "I'm not sure if I'm saying that right" everywhere. It's endearing in a way that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Glad to see MWG covering Infinity. They're a rather authentic bunch of folks.
Honestly?
I'd rather see them stay the hell away. MWG seems to have a habit of latching on to whatever is gaining in popularity after GW has done something which goes contrary to what MWG wants.
Absolutionis wrote: That video was amusingly haphazard with constant "I'm not sure if I'm saying that right" everywhere. It's endearing in a way that he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Glad to see MWG covering Infinity. They're a rather authentic bunch of folks.
Honestly?
I'd rather see them stay the hell away. MWG seems to have a habit of latching on to whatever is gaining in popularity after GW has done something which goes contrary to what MWG wants.
If Beasts of War and Battlefoam didn't harm Infinity, then MWG will be fine (and Battlefoam tried damn hard to screw things up). If anything, it may grab the attention of the disillusioned GW crowd that watched MWG's videos.
I hope the Corregidor stuff looks good. They're my favorite models from Nomads, a lot less anime than Bakunin. I might end up grabbing the starter if they look good.
The biggest concern I have is that I am readily able to identify these models.
Why is that a concern?
Because from the appearance, I'm concerned that they're just repackaging the two existing Wildcat models with new weapons. Close examination makes the female model look very similar to the HRL model in terms of the body shape, same with the two males and the Spitfire variant.
Not sure how I feel about MWG getting into it. Meh, I guess, as Absol said, it can't hurt. For me they sit much higher than BoW, somewhere on par with BTP. I hope they knock out some good material but I wouldn't put money on it, I'll refrain judgement til I have time to watch the video. Pah, I'm such a grinch!
Not sure how I feel about MWG getting into it. Meh, I guess, as Absol said, it can't hurt. For me they sit much higher than BoW, somewhere on par with BTP. I hope they knock out some good material but I wouldn't put money on it, I'll refrain judgement til I have time to watch the video. Pah, I'm such a grinch!
Honestly I can't see it as a bad thing. Either they put out a few of the Infinity videos they make as free, in which case I get to watch relatively well done and interesting battle reports (depending on which of the staff members is creating it) while I'm painting my Highlanders, or they all go in that Vault thing and nothing changes. This is after that initial month or two of 'oh woops forgot that really important rule' that isn't uncommon for sites when they just start covering a new game. It's not like since they are involved Infinity will stop being fun for me to play at my store
I think the most anticipated and big hit with everyone this month will be the Corregidor Box set. Even I'm looking forward to it and I don't play Nomads lol
CDK wrote: I think the most anticipated and big hit with everyone this month will be the Corregidor Box set. Even I'm looking forward to it and I don't play Nomads lol
That remains to be seen.
I know myself (and quite a few other people) are going to be VERY annoyed if they add more cheesecake styled Corregidor model.
The Corregidor range was free of it, barring Carlotta, the Wildcat with HRL, and the Daktari. This boxed set has the chance to completely ruin the aesthetic and make Corregidor just another Bakunin.
CDK wrote: I think the most anticipated and big hit with everyone this month will be the Corregidor Box set. Even I'm looking forward to it and I don't play Nomads lol
That remains to be seen.
I know myself (and quite a few other people) are going to be VERY annoyed if they add more cheesecake styled Corregidor model.
The Corregidor range was free of it, barring Carlotta, the Wildcat with HRL, and the Daktari. This boxed set has the chance to completely ruin the aesthetic and make Corregidor just another Bakunin.
Well, Infinity is heavily aesthetically influenced by anime, so cheesecake is to be expected.
CDK wrote: I think the most anticipated and big hit with everyone this month will be the Corregidor Box set. Even I'm looking forward to it and I don't play Nomads lol
That remains to be seen.
I know myself (and quite a few other people) are going to be VERY annoyed if they add more cheesecake styled Corregidor model.
The Corregidor range was free of it, barring Carlotta, the Wildcat with HRL, and the Daktari. This boxed set has the chance to completely ruin the aesthetic and make Corregidor just another Bakunin.
Well, Infinity is heavily aesthetically influenced by anime, so cheesecake is to be expected.
~Tim?
Sure, but it wasn't present in Corregidor.
Traditionally there's been a "cheesecake heavy" Sectorial, then a "professional" Sectorial with very little in the way of cheesecake.
A great example of this is Ariadna. The Scots were heavy on the cheesecake while the Merovingians were not, barring a few godawful examples (I'm looking at you Chasseur with ADHL).
PsychoticStorm wrote:Time will tell, I disagree that the HLR is cheesecake though.
Disagree all you want; it does not change the fact that she is.
She has all the hallmarks of a "cheesecake model" from Corvus Belli.
The utterly ridiculous pose which might as well be straight from a pin-up poster in a Wildcat bunk of his girlfriend dressing up in his gear and the utterly impractical and completely, wildly divergent from the main aesthetic "cyberponytail" which serves no purpose but to exaggerate her femininity.
Motyak wrote:I have to ask...cheesecake?
Wikipedia wrote:A pin-up girl, also known as a pin-up model or cheesecake, is a model whose mass-produced pictures see wide appeal as popular culture. Pin-ups are intended for informal display, e.g. meant to be "pinned-up" on a wall. Pin-up girls may be glamour models, fashion models, or actresses.
That's not necessarily the case with Infinity models; but it's the "best fit" terminology for such a thing. It is commonly used by myself and others to describe a model which has an overtly ridiculous pose that serves no purpose but to make you say "Oh, that's a girl model."
CDK wrote: I think the most anticipated and big hit with everyone this month will be the Corregidor Box set. Even I'm looking forward to it and I don't play Nomads lol
That remains to be seen.
I know myself (and quite a few other people) are going to be VERY annoyed if they add more cheesecake styled Corregidor model.
With the 'quite a few others' most likely being Kan saying "Me, myself and I"!
Which scots are heavy on the cheesecake? The female volunteer model? I can't think of any others, maybe Uxia's second sculpt (the 25 pt one), but the version of her with the MSV1 couldn't really be called cheesecake.
edit: and the dozer model with the rpg-esque weapon, although I don't know if that is a scots only model or not
motyak wrote: Which scots are heavy on the cheesecake? The female volunteer model? I can't think of any others, maybe Uxia's second sculpt (the 25 pt one), but the version of her with the MSV1 couldn't really be called cheesecake.
edit: and the dozer model with the rpg-esque weapon, although I don't know if that is a scots only model or not
The Dozer model is shared between all the Ariadnan factions, so she really does not count for any one particular faction.
In regards to the Scots stuff which is heavy on the cheesecake? You've got the original Uxia McNeill--who, no joke, has a thong line showing for no apparent reason--and the Caledonian Volunteer with her pose which several people have actually transposed onto postcards.
Ariadna is the faction which immediately sprang to mind as I have a beef with that godawful Dozer, the Chasseur, old Uxia, and the Caledonian, but for the most part their ranges are free of cheesecake. I'm still waking up so I could have done better by saying "Look at Bakunin for examples of cheesecake" and called it a day.
Alpharius wrote:With the 'quite a few others' most likely being Kan saying "Me, myself and I"!
Lies and slander!
BlueDagger wrote:*Sigh* I know it's nearing F5 day when this thread is bobbing near the top and Kanluwen has his rant mode on.
I rant because I care. How often do you see me on a rant in a 40k thread anymore?
While no new releases were shown today, CB will attend an event this weekend and the organizer (the Spanish distributor) confirmed there will be previews on the event.
Glad that the train is coming along, think a lot of people have been waiting for that model (although being MAS I'm sure it won't be small change, price wise.. )
I'm personally becoming quite disheartened with Corvus Belli. Their distribution system is poor, they are parceling out "sneak previews" to every blog out there who comes running their way and has an established base, and they do just as poor of a job with "release previews" as Games Workshop.
The only difference is that while GW's releases come out the next week; it ends up being a bloody month(or more for boxed sets!) for any of the releases to hit the store near me or for The Warstore/Empchild to get things in stock.
And then the wait starts anew until something I actually would be interesting in buying comes out because inevitably, Corvus Belli doesn't think that "themed" monthly releases (i.e. one faction gets a month, another gets another, etc) is something players would like.
Kanluwen wrote: It's like they're taking a page from Marketing: Games Workshop style. Show the crap; hide the good stuff.
I very much disagree.
You see the Corregidor Boxed Set as the big 'shiny' for you in a while, but other months have not held back their big set.
The Haqqislam Support Set with new sculpts was the big set last month and it was one of the first reveals (after Singh, a special character).
Penthesilea was pretty much universally-loved by many people and it was the first reveal of its month.
Kerrigan Ko Dali was the 'big shiny' reveal of March, and it was revealed after the Crusader Brethren.
The Raicho got its own super-reveal and was the first reveal of its month.
They're doing a good-as-usual job at spacing out their reveals.
No and that helps people always having something in a months time instead of waiting months without anything.
There are many reason why previews are showcased as they are! you really compare the manpower of GW with CBs? or their release plans?
First of all CB makes sure each faction has something at least every other month, "themed month" releases were not well received when Infinity debuted and the community was in favor of a much more mixed releases schedule, which is understandable, who likes to wait 6 months for his faction to see something new? on that respect, CB is still a small company, and while they prepare way in advance for their releases, things can happen and last minute swaps do happen, CB prefers to not hipe the community for a particular model and then fail to deliver.
Now I do not know why you do not like CB supporting blogs, podcasts and forums that want to support them, but I am sure the community as a whole does appreciate it.
And here you tap why faction months are bad and should be avoided.
Sectorials are an intriguing case because they are a faction release and they need bursts of models to be released for them to be playable, yes morat sectorial players now see less frequent releases, but the bulk of their force is playable.
PsychoticStorm wrote: And here you tap why faction months are bad and should be avoided.
Sectorials are an intriguing case because they are a faction release and they need bursts of models to be released for them to be playable, yes morat sectorial players now see less frequent releases, but the bulk of their force is playable.
Sectorials are not "an intriguing case". They're a very simple way for there to be "faction months".
You release an item for each Sectorial and/or the "vanilla" list.
Considering that each faction is guaranteed to get a Sectorial at some point; it's foolish to pretend that Sectorials are somehow going to ruin a shift towards "faction months". The only thing which would ruin them is Corvus Belli's seeming attitude of favoritism towards certain Sectorials and the lack of creativity that went into others.
They could try to release one model for each sectorial in each month, even the ones that haven't come yet. For example they could release a US, Russian, Scottish and French model in April, then a Neoterra, Antogiammo (thingy) and Military Orders in May.
That'd be a pretty good release schedule I reckon, you'd get a release every 8 months (not including mercs), which isn't too bad. One of those could be a box too. I dunno.
From my point of view all sectorial troops are available in the "vanila" list and so are faction releases.
You have to understand that there is no huge GW sculptors studio behind CB to make huge amount of releases for a single faction possible and that spacing them is a better way to make them happen.
If you really want everything in your plate and nothing more after that single huge release, in faction months, ala GW style, I am afraid as you have understood this is not the way it will happen.
I do not understand your comment about favoritism for some sectorials and lack of creativity in others, you mean sectorials who have fewer units, fewer background? or you mean sectorials who have been finished baring a few entries and have infrequent releases?
PsychoticStorm wrote: From my point of view all sectorial troops are available in the "vanilla" list and so are faction releases.
Except as we both know there are some units which are essentially "signature" to the Sectorials, not the "vanilla" list such as the Mobile Brigada.
You have to understand that there is no huge GW sculptors studio behind CB to make huge amount of releases for a single faction possible and that spacing them is a better way to make them happen.
I'm quite aware of what Corvus Belli does and does not have, or at least what they claim to have or not have.
They had enough of a break(apparently) in their release schedule to let sculptors make TWO "limited edition" sculpts within the span of a year(Go-Go Marlene and Max Skorpio), but not enough to finally get a Chasseur model with rifle available outside of the Ariadna starter box?
It's quite puzzling as to how one can justify that but not sculptors working on a single faction.
If you really want everything in your plate and nothing more after that single huge release, in faction months, ala GW style, I am afraid as you have understood this is not the way it will happen.
I think you don't grasp exactly how a planned "faction month" would work.
They don't release everything all at once. They release a unit for each Sectorial, for each faction, in a specific month.
With there existing 8(9 if you count Mercenaries as their own faction, rather than the poorly planned mess that they are right at this moment) factions and 12 months--there's enough room for some workable time throughout the course of a year.
Especially given the fact that, from Corvus Belli's own admission, certain sculptors are responsible for certain ranges and certain Sectorials.
Assuming that the manufacturing base at Corvus Belli is up for it, and their sculptors can actually stick to deadlines--I don't see how there would really be any problem on anyone except Angel.
I will have to admit that your mentioning of GW and faction month led me to believe you were referring to the GW style of one complete(ish) faction one month.
Mobile brigada is not here because all coegidor stuff will begin to show up now, same story as with every other sectorial.
When you say complete unit, you mean release all models with all variants for a unit? in a month? for each faction? or just a model/ box for each faction per month? in any case, no, beyond Angel, the rest of CB would have a problem keeping up.
Yes, CB indeed has dedicated sculptors for factions and for certain things, but these are not dedicated exclusively to a faction, they sculpt for other factions too.
Alkasyn wrote: Interesting, I relinked the pictures at my local forum - can the pilots actually get out of their TAGs? Or is this just for fun?
O-12 Podcast mentioned a concept art book being released this summer, maybe the miniatures will be part of the limited edition deal ?
Yes, pilots can get out whenever they want, and also when the TAG is destroyed. When the TAG is being used, all the attacks and actions are solved with the TAG stats. Only when the pilot is out his stats are used. Also, pilots don't add an order to the order pool. This models probably won't be released, but there is already one pilot model on sale. The Szalamandra Pilot for the Nomads:
- Artbook confirmed for this year, without release date yet. About 50% existing stuff - 50% new stuff.
- One summer month is going to have themed releases: miniatures for collectors. This miniatures are designed not to be played, but to be painted as dioramas. This includes: Scarface getting out of the destroyed TAG; the O-Yoroi Pilot will be total cheesecake, in the opened cockpit of the TAG, putting up stockings (I don't know if this is a joke or serious, I guess it's serious); an Auxilia enslaved by Morats, and the "elder of the mountain" (literal translation, I have no clue what is this about). There will be more "collector" minis in other months.
- Corregidor is going to have a lot of minis renewed.
- Mercenary TAG for GenCon (Anaconda?)
- A possible mercenary sectorial.
- Bostria has spoken about some ideas that might as well get real or not: Post-Human sectorial for ALEPH, O-12 with Enomotarch...
Wow some really exciting news - artbook will be nice, and I'm intrigued by what the 'collectors' miniatures will be. I think a lot of people just paint the minis for the game, but will never play with them, so quite cool that they will acknowledge that!
Also the mercenary TAG and new sectorial sounds really cool!
Alkasyn wrote:Interesting, I relinked the pictures at my local forum - can the pilots actually get out of their TAGs? Or is this just for fun?
O-12 Podcast mentioned a concept art book being released this summer, maybe the miniatures will be part of the limited edition deal ?
yes they can get out, usually when the TAG gets popped. Practically it doesn't make much difference (and often I suppose whatever weapon is pointing at the wreckage of the TAG isn't going to have much trouble with an un-armoured pilot!) but I think it's quite a cool little touch. I use a an Alguacile for my Lizard TAG pilot, I think there are a number of miniatures in the range that are suitable.
Again a bit more of info. Next rulebook will be published next year and will include a lot of new sectorials (I guess most of them are the ones we saw the logos at... last GenCon maybe?) and a whole new faction, likely O-12. One of the other collectors minis will be a female Tohaa putting on the simbiont armour.
Wow some fantastic stuff. I love the O-Yoroi and Scarface! I'd get them even though I don't do JSA or QK.
I think the Anaconda might be a TAG for Corregidor. The name is in line with the Salamander, Lizard, and Geko. Also the colors on the symbol are Red and Black, which are common colors for their symbols and armor. I think it will sort of be like Mercs in QK but for Corregidor. It's a Merc that can be in a few other armies but mainly for Nomads.
Edit: Also, I did a quick google-fu on Anaconda and they are native to South America. Corregidor is mainly made up of SA natives.
Maybe in the case of the O-Yoroi pilot, since the TAG itself is pretty obviously influenced by Evangelion, the "stockings" will be part of her plugsuit of sorts.
Notice the similarities of Eva's plugsuit with the O-Yoroi pilot's suit in the concept art: the two headclip thingies in her hair most of all. I'm guessing with the "skirt" and the stockings part, this (non-canon) version of the plugsuit is what they were after:
Spoiler:
Of course it's total cheesecake. Just want to point out the reference.
And this pushes me to buy JSA because... reasons. Evangelion. I wish that the pilot is not only available on a Diorama but also as a game piece.
Again a bit more of info. Next rulebook will be published next year and will include a lot of new sectorials (I guess most of them are the ones we saw the logos at... last GenCon maybe?) and a whole new faction, likely O-12. One of the other collectors minis will be a female Tohaa putting on the simbiont armour.
That sounds cool! Anyone have any idea about what some of the other collector minis will be?
Again a bit more of info. Next rulebook will be published next year and will include a lot of new sectorials (I guess most of them are the ones we saw the logos at... last GenCon maybe?) and a whole new faction, likely O-12. One of the other collectors minis will be a female Tohaa putting on the simbiont armour.
That sounds cool! Anyone have any idea about what some of the other collector minis will be?
- One summer month is going to have themed releases: miniatures for collectors. This miniatures are designed not to be played, but to be painted as dioramas. This includes: Scarface getting out of the destroyed TAG; the O-Yoroi Pilot will be total cheesecake, in the opened cockpit of the TAG, putting up stockings (I don't know if this is a joke or serious, I guess it's serious); an Auxilia enslaved by Morats, and the "elder of the mountain" (literal translation, I have no clue what is this about). There will be more "collector" minis in other months.
Again a bit more of info. Next rulebook will be published next year and will include a lot of new sectorials (I guess most of them are the ones we saw the logos at... last GenCon maybe?) and a whole new faction, likely O-12. One of the other collectors minis will be a female Tohaa putting on the simbiont armour.
That sounds cool! Anyone have any idea about what some of the other collector minis will be?
I've read something about existing minis having alternate versions with battle damage. Characters like William Wallace, Jean D'Arc and such. I don't know if this is real or just an idea, though.
motyak wrote: When are these minis likely to drop? And will they be limited release? Or collectors minis available for a long while?
The first ones quoted in the previous post by Alkasyn will be out in summer, I don't exactly wich month. That month's releases will be only collector's models, no minis for gaming. I don't think they will be limited runs. Other models will be published in the future in addition to the normal releases in some months.
I see quite a few of this line finding their way towards the tabletop.
Actually.. this whole development gives CB a whole lot of manoeuvring space with their modelling, as well as a bit of a get-out clause.
If you think about it, unless they have a ridiculous pose or base most of these models will probably find their way into people's collections for gaming - even if as was pointed out above that wrecked TAG just becomes a scenario objective.
But at the same time it will circumvent the 'OMG that pose means I can't hide behind cover' and 'look at the size of its footprint!' comments that you sometimes get with the more out-there posing, as the miniatures have clearly been intended for a modelling purpose. The people who want to use them for games outside of ITS will be able to (assuming that there is a 'gaming equivalent of the miniatures, such as with Joan d'arque).
A little late, but I love that preview... just wish the price-per-model for Infinity wasn't so high. Makes sense since basically everything acts like a character, but it makes it hard to impulse buy
CDK wrote:How does price compare figure to figure. Like Finecast to Inifnity to Malifaux?
I saw someone was talking about that in a browse through the 'Popular Threads' section yesterday. The first post was messy and illogical so I didn't read it but it was quite a few pages long so someone might have improved upon the findings.
CDK wrote: How does price compare figure to figure. Like Finecast to Inifnity to Malifaux?
Down here an (Eldar) Avatar costs as much as a TAG or starter box, and the finecast characters cost about twice as much as most human-size models. I've only got one plastic Malifaux character, and I don't remember exactly how much it cost, but I think it was only a bit more expensive.
I don't really consider any of those poses to be "sexy".
If I were to say ANYTHING that detracts from the Corregidor box for me?
It's that Corvus Belli did a 1:1 ratio of "standing around" poses and "action" poses.
The two new male Wildcats?
Great poses. They have a bit of a tactical look to them, as though they are working in conjunction while clearing a room or building.
The Hellcat?
She looks as though she's coming in for a landing. Removing the knife so that it does not look as silly will be easy. (Serious question: Who would jump with a knife out? It seems...questionable in the logic department)
The female Wildcat?
It's a good sculpt. She does not look as cheesecake as the Wildcat with HRL does. She looks like she's taking a breather after a firefight; not like "PewPew! I got you!".
The new Intruder has that same kind of look, someone who has just been involved in combat but not like someone who has just got done with a day of paintball/laser tag.
The Alguacil is the big dud of the box. It's nice to see that the Alguacils have armor, and it's even nicer to see her wearing a helmet. But the random hand saluting and hand on her hip detracts from it for me.
I knew Kan would like those the moment I saw them...
Fricking awesome, already got some Tomcats (I have a Nomad force split between 'helmeted guys' and 'when animals attack') so it's a no-brainer for me to get these.
Agree that the poses on the Wildcats look great!
Another highlight for me is the helmet on the Intruder.
Pacific wrote: I knew Kan would like those the moment I saw them...
Fricking awesome, already got some Tomcats (I have a Nomad force split between 'helmeted guys' and 'when animals attack') so it's a no-brainer for me to get these.
Agree that the poses on the Wildcats look great!
Another highlight for me is the helmet on the Intruder.
You know what? I just realized something else that was slightly nagging at me but I couldn't place it.
All of those models(barring maybe the Hellcat; don't remember off the top of my head) are Combi Rifles+ Light Flamethrowers.
So why did they give them the 'new' combi rifle design rather than the Tomcat combi rifle+ light flamethrower rifle design?
Would have been a nice way to differentiate between Bakunin and Corregidor in terms of weapon styles.
Kanluwen wrote: ...
The Alguacil is the big dud of the box. It's nice to see that the Alguacils have armor, and it's even nicer to see her wearing a helmet. But the random hand saluting and hand on her hip detracts from it for me.
I initially thought the same, that she was giving a spunky salute, but as she is a hacker, it occurs to me that is the pose actually meant to show her adjusting some sort of optical interface unit, ala Google Glass?
Her pose actually makes a great deal more sense that way, as the other hand on the hip seems natural if one is absorbed in a task.
Kanluwen wrote: ...
The Alguacil is the big dud of the box. It's nice to see that the Alguacils have armor, and it's even nicer to see her wearing a helmet. But the random hand saluting and hand on her hip detracts from it for me.
I initially thought the same, that she was giving a spunky salute, but as she is a hacker, it occurs to me that is the pose actually meant to show her adjusting some sort of optical interface unit, ala Google Glass?
Her pose actually makes a great deal more sense that way, as the other hand on the hip seems natural if one is absorbed in a task.
I had thought about giving her the benefit of the doubt; but if you look there's no optical interface or anything.
There's just her giving a salute with her palm facing outward.
Something that occurred to me as well is that now with the Intruders being redone and their AVA 5 in Corregidor...
We might be seeing an Intruder box.
Guildsman wrote: That new intruder... oh my... *swoon* Well, it's official. My resistance has been broken. Lools like I'm starting an Infinity force now.
Welcome to the fun!
A fantastic release. I'll be getting that Haiduk even if I never use him!
Corregidor is the start of the show though. I love all of them.
I can't wait to see each one on Angel's blog. Then we can see all around them.
Oh my goodness, the Corregidor Jurisdictional Command Box, oh my goodness. The Corregidor Jurisdictional Command, oh my goodness.
Why oh why wait until I'm painting my Bakunin to release these!? I'm actually not interested in the male Wildcats, they look awkward and uncomfortable to my eye so I can't buy into it. I love all the bad mfrakker pinup poses though, very Nomad, very anime. I know how I'll be expanding my Heralds now!
Kanluwen wrote: The Hellcat?
She looks as though she's coming in for a landing.
She looks as though that's what she should look like she's doing, but it actually looks more like she should be leaning against a wall...
Individually I love all of these except maybe salutegirl, but as a unit I'm not a fan of the mix of poses.
Hmm, I look at both of those things differently...
I've always seen the jump troops as being slightly suspended by their gear which makes their poses a little weightless on purpose. I actually think she is in a pinup pose but barely holding her own weight.
With the boxes I view them as collections of completely seperate miniatures. They are put together for ease of purchase rather than continuity of style.
That's my point of view anyway, it might not be the intention but it seems logical to me.
I thought I'd show this for the hell of it to show how this box can be played in a small game right out of the box. With just a few upgrades where the weapon doesn't matter. I made one Wildcat a Lt., a Number 2, and one is an Engineer. You could also make the Hellcat a Medic or something too.
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Casey's Law wrote: I've always seen the jump troops as being slightly suspended by their gear which makes their poses a little weightless on purpose.
Yup, I get the intention, and normally it's done quite well on Infinity figures. It's just this particular one that doesn't work for me. It may be the more hunched shoulders and head, but it just looks like more of a relaxed 'Hey there, big boy...' pose than a landing pose.
Casey's Law wrote: I've always seen the jump troops as being slightly suspended by their gear which makes their poses a little weightless on purpose.
Yup, I get the intention, and normally it's done quite well on Infinity figures. It's just this particular one that doesn't work for me. It may be the more hunched shoulders and head, but it just looks like more of a relaxed 'Hey there, big boy...' pose than a landing pose.
Yeh, sorry I wasn't really clear. I think she is definitely posing and that they intended it, I don't think she is meant to be landing, in fact I don't the her predecessors were supposed to be landing either.
I know that's how it's generally taken but to me they all seem like they are posed like any model might be just under the effect of their equipment. So I see them as running, shooting or posing but they barely touch the ground and look pretty much weightless because they are using their kit to aid their normal actions. A good way to imagine what my eyes are seeing is to imagine yourself doing those things on a giant air hockey table. Or maybe imagine being held up by invisible bungee cord...
Of course, whether or not that's appealing comes down to each person. I love the posing/cheesecake models myself, annoyingly there aren't many males posing, a little more gender equality would be nice. I know Kan would have an aneurysm but one of those male Wildcats should definitely be giving the peace sign and slouching.
Kanluwen wrote: I think "posing" models are just fine; provided the poses are not ridiculous or they fit the character of the model.
Wildcats aren't going to be flashing peace signs. Most of Corregidor would not be flashing peace signs.
Flipping you the bird? Definitely.
Haha, yeh I'm aware of your feelings by this point! I was kidding you on about the Wildcat but it illustrated my point on gender equality, poses like that are female only at this point. I agree though, the hard frakkers of Corregidor aren't going to be throwing peace signs. They aren't immune to anime posing though which is an Infinity wide aesthetic, the new MySpace pic Alguacil is a prime example. These types of poses are rooted in the style and are always appropriate apart from possibly named characters. Basically, we agree, sorry if I baited you by mistake!
It's taken awhile, but we have the "close up" photos of individuals from the Corregidor starter box now via Angel.
It's a lot of images, so I'm spoilering them.
Spoiler:
I rescind my earlier complaint about the lack of flamethrowers on the guns, as if you look at the combi rifles they now are under the barrel rather than over the top.
I wonder if these will be available before July...
I regularly play Infinity with a guy who's won like 4 golden demons and used to be with the Heavy Metal team (he's a commission painter now) and even *he* is in awe of Angel's painting skill.
d-usa wrote: So quick question: The guys on fancy bases (hiding behind stuff or things like that), are they cast on the base, or are they separate?
Depends on the model.
The two Zouave models are separate from the bases, the Moblot with HMG is separate from the base. Essentially you get a little metal component that you situate the body of the model into and they sit flush. All three of them use the same metal dugout, but the Moblot with HMG and Zouave with HMG have two unique pieces(the wall that the Moblot is braced against and a sandbag wall extension for the Zouave HMG) contained within.
The Nomad Moderator Sniper has a part from the ALEPH Sophotecht that he braces his gun on. The Aconticemento Regular Sniper(Sapper) has a unique base that she lays on, etc.
That's off the top of my head and I might be wrong on the Regular.
d-usa wrote: So quick question: The guys on fancy bases (hiding behind stuff or things like that), are they cast on the base, or are they separate?
Depends on the model.
The two Zouave models are separate from the bases, the Moblot with HMG is separate from the base. Essentially you get a little metal component that you situate the body of the model into and they sit flush. All three of them use the same metal dugout, but the Moblot with HMG and Zouave with HMG have two unique pieces(the wall that the Moblot is braced against and a sandbag wall extension for the Zouave HMG) contained within.
The Nomad Moderator Sniper has a part from the ALEPH Sophotecht that he braces his gun on. The Aconticemento Regular Sniper(Sapper) has a unique base that she lays on, etc.
That's off the top of my head and I might be wrong on the Regular.
What about the Cateran? I'm assuming he comes with his special base, because he is almost twice as expensive as other models his size (if the base isn't included)
Kanluwen wrote: The Cateran does come with a special base as well; which is a pretty hefty hunk of pewter.
Cool, I'm ordering him in soon and I was pretty sure that's why he's about 15 bucks when the other models are about 9, but I wanted to be sure.
Actually it comes with two bases, a normal and a big one. It includes some big metal pieces to make some ruined stairs. So you can choose between using just one stairs piece and the small base, or using the larger one with all the stuff.
That CG site is awesome! I'll be looking through there a lot. That is probably art that CB should be commissioning some more of. It really makes Infinity seem more futuristic.
..And it stands to reason that the moment I order a bunch of miniatures for my own 'Mercenary' force (well.. Haqqislam Qapu Kalhki, which are pretty much mercs from their description!) then a load of official stuff gets announced!
Oh well.. am happy for everyone else until my willpower breaks and I buy these as well
1) The May previews(Corregidor!!!) are up for preorder at The Warstore now. They went up for preorder yesterday...but I wasn't about to let anyone else know that until after I'd preordered my Corregidor box. Assuming the usual time difference they'll come into stock on June 20th, shipping out that day.
2) Yasbir posted on the official Infinity forums today that:
Yasbir wrote:It is bostria time one more time in BOW....maybe soon there will be news...
So look for Bostria to be on Beasts of War again with a preview for the July release window!
Carlos is on BoW talking about the Reverend Morias at 12:20. I'm sure there will be more with him. I thought it was interesting about he CG designs not always working when sculpted.
I'd love if developers made this kind of videos for all their releases. It combines the review of the product with a lot of visual information and some great information on the different processes.
The week GW released the new DE with one video each day was nerdgasmic to me
I think it definitely has those little 'chest arms' which seem to be so divisive in terms of what people think of them.
Re. the Gecko, I think people are looking forward to that one so much because (like the Raicho) it sounds so cool in the background, and it being a 'light TAG' makes it a bit different to what we have seen so far.
Chest arms are definitely divisive, they make sense, personally I do not like them, but can tolerate them, if people do not tolerate them omitting them is an easy modification work.
Yeh I'm not a fan so I leave them off and cover the gap. It's so simple that it shouldn't interfere with anyone's decision on whether they like a miniature.
Put it would have to extend out to each side for the full lenght of an arm (+ armor and mechanics) which would interfere with the use of the TAG arms, the suit would have to be hollow all the way through the back so that the pilot would have use of his arms in that direction as well. It would have to be a big round cannonball with some legs and arms attached to it.
Kanluwen wrote: Is it so terrible to make a single piloted TAG without the dumb stomach arms?
They are far from dumb, but have a very functional design. There's no other way a human pilot could fit inside a machine of such size; and let's remember that In the end "Gears" aren't vehicles but personal armors.
Actually I have always found dumb the animes of mechas, things such as Gundam, Robotech/Macross, Full Metal Panic, Evangelion, Code Geass, ... Despite I like them I can't bear up with the idea that the pilots have to control something as complicated as the natural movement of arms in a giant robot with something as simple as a pair of joystick controls. That's why when I got to know Masamune Shirow's works I fell in love with the concept of gears/landmates. Big mechas never appealed me, but I really dig the idea of bulky exoarmored suits not bigger than twice the human height.
Infinity designers have always stated that despite Infinity drinks from many sci fi works, visual design is heavily inspired by Shirow's works. And you know what? If you take a look at his works you'll see cheesecake girls and gears with slave arms are at the order of the day. That's why I find funny your usual entitled whines, it's like if someone started to play 40k and whined because there're space marines and skulls everywhere!
After that TAG preview it looks like Infinity might be back on the menu for me, though I guess I can't use said model until the relevant book has been released somewhere down the line allowing for an all-Merc army.
Alpharius wrote: I like the Anaconda, but I really was hoping for the Iguana!
I was hoping for an Iguana for my QK as well, but if the Anaconda ends up looking good (CB rarely disappoints), I may just get it and use it as an Iguana for now or forever. Additionally, setting the Anaconda as a Silver Stars Merc only seems a bit too niche for the time being. Maybe the Anaconda will be available for other factions.
-Loki- wrote:That Anaconda might be the first TAG I get for my QK. Seriously, that concept art is fantastic.
Grr.. didn't realise Qapu Khalqi had a tool-tip! I was having to load up Infinity Army every time I wanted to write it, or writing Kapu Qalpi, Qualqi Kapu etc. I cannot remember how to spell that word..
Kanluwen wrote:Like Scarface, a limited release now with a general release a year or so later.
I can think of a few ways to control a TAG. What about mind interface direct link to brain/nervous system with the pilots body strapped in to a snug little armored chamber? That’s as feasible as any of these “realistic” theories. but judging by modern tech they’d be drone operated anyway so…
I have a question for all of you.
We all know that Corvus took a big huge bite out of Masamune Shirow and his various work… I’m definnatly not upset because I don’t see Mr. Shirow bringing his worlds to my table top… so I’m cool with it…
But-
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
We'll say plastic, multi-part Mecha that also Borrow from Masamune Shirow and Infinity… anyone up for that?
Let's be fair. The Morat Aggression Force were in more or less the same rut that Corregidor was in, lacking a "unique" unit for the boxed set and essentially already having their own starter set in the form of the main faction starter.
I'm predicting/speculating, personally, that the Morat Aggression Force box is going to be within the next year or so and feature resculpted Daturazi and Morat Vanguard...but that requires Corvus Belli redoing the original Combined Army starter set since there'd be a two model difference between the MAF starter and the CA one.
I would not be surprised to see a Suryat boxed set this year though.
5deadly wrote: I can think of a few ways to control a TAG. What about mind interface direct link to brain/nervous system with the pilots body strapped in to a snug little armored chamber? That’s as feasible as any of these “realistic” theories. but judging by modern tech they’d be drone operated anyway so…
Some factions have that technology already (PanOceania). In the INFINITY world it is called "Ghost Presence".
In fact, the pinnacle of T.A.G. technology, the mighty JOTUM, is remote operated.
I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
But
No one answered my question.
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
let me know how this group of people would feel about somethinglike that.
5deadly wrote: I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
But
No one answered my question.
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
let me know how this group of people would feel about somethinglike that.
It depends on the design, not the theory. Show us a design.
Though, let's be honest... there are people out there who still think that GW's Tau Crisis Suits look like Gundams. Appleseed is pretty obscure outside of anime communities. So, expect some people to say the design rips off Infinity even if it doesn't. But I'd like to see this in a separate thread. With pictures.
5deadly wrote: I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
But
No one answered my question.
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
let me know how this group of people would feel about somethinglike that.
"Oh Cool" Would be my response; more the merrier in my opinion.
Knowing the internet, they would say both (and sometimes, both statements on the same person). And other people will defend the new mecha, saying that Infinity copied from various sources anyway.
See how the internet reacts to GW and 3rd party sources, or stuff that can be used for GW armies like Mantic's line. Some people love it, others think they should stop "ripping off" GW, and some people defend it because GW copied other sources in the first place.
5deadly wrote: I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
But
No one answered my question.
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
let me know how this group of people would feel about somethinglike that.
I think people would probably mostly say 'oh cool!', but why not try starting a thread on this topic in the Infinity section as it will get more discussion (this thread is for people to get distracted by the new, shiny things! )
5deadly wrote: I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
But
No one answered my question.
If another miniature game came out with Masamune Shirow style mecha in the same vein as Infinity TAGs which is a clone of landmate designs how would that be received?
Would people say “Oh cool!” or say “Stop Ripping off Infinity!”
I’m very very interested in what this group thinks of that idea…
let me know how this group of people would feel about somethinglike that.
I wouldn't crtiticize it, in the same way I don't criticize fantasy for having Elves. I don't say "Oh look, they are ripping off WFB" or "Hey look they are ripping off Tolkien". If I liked the minis, it would be great. If I didn't, then I would just ignore the game. I'm not into Battletech, WarmaHordes, AT-43, and such. The minis are not interesting enough to me, but I don't speak bad about them because I don't know the games.
motyak wrote: Quick query, is there any 3rd Highland Greys box on the horizon? Or is that so far away in the distance that it is irrelevant.
I haven't read anything about it, so no idea here :\
5deadly wrote: I can think of a few ways to control a TAG. What about mind interface direct link to brain/nervous system with the pilots body strapped in to a snug little armored chamber? That’s as feasible as any of these “realistic” theories. but judging by modern tech they’d be drone operated anyway so…
5deadly wrote: I know about G-presence… Drone run works and would probably be the standard if “Mecha” were real I think.
It looks like I was right on about them being Nomad mercs. The weapons are definitely Nomad. I'm willing to bet they will be used General Nomads, Corregidor, and QK.
CDK wrote: It looks like I was right on about them being Nomad mercs. The weapons are definitely Nomad. I'm willing to bet they will be used General Nomads, Corregidor, and QK.
Weapons in Merc models say nothing really, mercs get to buy whatever weapons they can find/ afford.
Just got my models for the PanO military orders army....honestly I cannot get enough of these what's worse is I'm starting to just collect and paint with little play. Damn you corvus!!!
Back on topic for me sorry have they made any announcements on the future of the tohaa?
Kanluwen wrote: Let's be fair. The Morat Aggression Force were in more or less the same rut that Corregidor was in, lacking a "unique" unit for the boxed set and essentially already having their own starter set in the form of the main faction starter.
I'm predicting/speculating, personally, that the Morat Aggression Force box is going to be within the next year or so and feature resculpted Daturazi and Morat Vanguard...but that requires Corvus Belli redoing the original Combined Army starter set since there'd be a two model difference between the MAF starter and the CA one.
I would not be surprised to see a Suryat boxed set this year though.
Feuerbach Sogarat, Kurgat w. Shotgun, 3x Daturazi, Vanguard. That's my guess.
Kanluwen wrote: Let's be fair. The Morat Aggression Force were in more or less the same rut that Corregidor was in, lacking a "unique" unit for the boxed set and essentially already having their own starter set in the form of the main faction starter.
I'm predicting/speculating, personally, that the Morat Aggression Force box is going to be within the next year or so and feature resculpted Daturazi and Morat Vanguard...but that requires Corvus Belli redoing the original Combined Army starter set since there'd be a two model difference between the MAF starter and the CA one.
I would not be surprised to see a Suryat boxed set this year though.
Feuerbach Sogarat, Kurgat w. Shotgun, 3x Daturazi, Vanguard. That's my guess.
IMO, I think looking at a blend of the Steel Phalanx and the new Corregidor box is a better idea in terms of how the Morat starter would be.
You'll likely see a character, a specialist, another specialist, and then three Vanguard resculpt models.
My own prediction/guess?
Kornak
Rasyat with Boarding Shotgun(or a Combi Rifle resculpt)
Kurgat with Boarding Shotgun
Two Vanguard models with Combi Rifles
A Vanguard model with Missile Launcher
This year Infinity offers you more news! As summer and the holidays are coming, the season of conventions and tournaments starts. To celebrate this, from today until September 15th, all players who participate in Official Tournaments will get 500 extra ITS points for tournaments. Completely free!
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Infinity Artbook One
This year you will have the chance to delve deep inside the visual aspects of the Infinity universe. Infinity Artbook One is a book full of previous sketches, development designs, final artwork and unreleased stuff.
In this book you will find out how the concept design process of some of your favorite miniatures was developed. But not only that, would you like to witness the evolution of the Stingray T.A.G. series? Do you want to know how the final design of the Tohaa was reached? Are you asking yourself about what concept designs of Lucien Sforza were rejected? In this book you will get all those answers and even more. In the next few weeks we will provide you more information about Infinity Artbook One. Keep connected!
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WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
INTRUDER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, 
ALGUACIL Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 22)
HELLCAT Combi Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (24)
LUNOKHOD Boarding Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (29)
