Twins looking good so far - mech wings are intruiging
Glad you haven't collapsed under the strain of the green paint, and hope all goes well at the weekend.

Those two look great! I can't wait to see them painted

@monkeytroll: Thanks, not yet and thanks!

@The Good Green: Thanks and welcome back!

Da Dark Angelz - Pre Silver Sorcerer 2010


Back, sides and top of da Stormboyz Nobz (for Gitsplitta)

Thanks man... looking good!

Looking good! Hope you do well on Silver Sorcerer!

Thanks and thanks! I forgot to mention, as my lift to Silver Sorcerer had arrived - the Rokkit packs, as they are so far, are frightfully easy.

1. Build SM Jump Pack
2. Saw in half
3. Compare halves to Rokkit Packs - some with side detail are not suitable.
4. Compare halves to Rokkit Pack tops - again, some aren't suitable, or need minor cuts.
5. Glue!

Adding to the shoulder pads was trickier...

Looking the biz there

but damnit, looking at those rokkit paks makes me want to go and get some stormboyz now.

Da Dark Angelz survived Silver Sorcerer, the main day anyway, if a bit battered and bruised. I don't think it will be worth doing full battle reports - especially as none of my games got past turn 3! (Two of them turn 2...) I don't know where I placed - I'll have to find out - I imagine somewhere in the middle of the field. I had two minor wins (12/20), a draw and a loss (6/20) for a total of 40/80 battle points. Will write something up though, hopefully before I forget the memorable moments

I'm glad I got to battle against your orks - some great conversions (and an insane quantity of magnets ).

I think your Chaos were probably my favourite game on Saturday - a great start to the day! And a reminder that I should be focusing on objectives, not Daemon Princes

I always worry that one day Airport Security won't let me take them on the plane... I think I may re-jig a few magnets though - they are my first attempts, and some of them have proven to be more fiddly in setup/play than I expected. Of course, this is really only an issue where time is limited...

Glad to have met and battled you and your gloriously painted Chaos Marines!


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Glad to hear you did better today too! (poor endtransmission...)

It was a good game indeed

I've always wondered how tight airport security is with things like models. If worst came to the worst, would they just put them in the hold? Probably best to phone up in advance and ask what the policy is.

Probably my favorite game of the day too - glad you liked my CSM

Edit: Yeah, I was more comfortable in the 1,500 points range as it let me take a few extra toys that make CSM really good (in my view anyway), which meant that endtransmission had a hard time of it. He played well though, and actually got some kills with his PBS (I think - I know they didn't blow themselves up and were still alive at the end of the game, so that is a positive for him )

Domestic UK I have flown my models in carry on, with magnets, and metal models, probably a dozen times without issue. Da Boss won't let me bring them to Australia with me, so International won't be an issue until I try to get a game with Commissar Khaine

I see more paint on those models. Looking good. Those two nobz are amazing. I'm happy I finally have a way to take part in this fun (the SM/marker trades).

So maybe this is just a stupid question, but is a Stormboy just a boy with a rocket strapped on his ass?

Yep... plain and simple.

Hell, I can make one of 'dem! I sent my orks out to SEANjohn to get painted (he wanted practice, I wanted not grey orks, but once they get back, I'll do one up for ya. A warning tho, its going to be pretty friggin orky

The Good Green wrote:I see more paint on those models. Looking good. Those two nobz are amazing. I'm happy I finally have a way to take part in this fun (the SM/marker trades).

Thanks - and welcome to the madness!

whalemusic360 wrote:Hell, I can make one of 'dem! I sent my orks out to SEANjohn to get painted (he wanted practice, I wanted not grey orks, but once they get back, I'll do one up for ya. A warning tho, its going to be pretty friggin orky

Great! No hurry though, I think you are 6th in my queue... (did I mention I was going to be slow?)

How about doing Gork or Mork?

Now that Silver Sorcerer is behind me (more updates on that to come...), on to the future of Da Dark Angelz! In an effort to stave off madness, I've decided to paint small groups to completion rather than everything at once. In an effort to keep the painting moving along - painting will occur *before* modelling each night

I give you - my painting schedule!

3x Shootas, 1st Trukk, Big Mek

2x Deffkoptas, 5x Shootas

2nd Trukk, 4x Shootas, Power Klaw Nob

Bosspole Nob, Painboy, Mega-armoured Nob, Nob Trukk

A long time ago, in a page far far away...

Arakasi wrote:Voting has now finished! Congratulations to Orks 5, 7 and 12!

My modelling schedule:

Stormboyz Nob

2x Burnas (1 Kommando) - just needs basing

Remaining Trukk/Deffkopta Bitz/Fixes

The Great Marine Swap schedule:

Gitsplitta's Stormboyz Nob - modelling in progress

tony_nids_10 - TBA

Artsoldier35 - TBA

Ramos Asura - TBA

Lennysmash - TBA

whalemusic360 - TBA

To be scheduled - feel free to make suggestions (for items on the list, not on the list, or order!)

Mega-armoured Warboss/Ghazghkull conversion

3x Meganobz (Deffwingz)

3x Warbikers + Nob (Rav'nwingz)

5x Lootas

10x Grotz + Runtherd (Chaplain)

Looted Wagon (Predator base, Kilkannon style Boomgun)

Mad Doc Grotsnik

Shokk Attack Gun - thunderfire cannon conversion?

Kommandos + Snikrot (Sgt. Naaman tie in?)

KFF Mek (Tech Marine)

Looted Wagon (Vindicator base, Grotzooka style Boomgun)

Looted Wagon (Whirlwind base, Rokkits galore!)

Deffkoptas - Grtoz Apache, Star Wars Speeder, Hind, Huey, Disc (a la "The Incredibles"), Thunderhawk, Landspeeder, Stormraven

Warbuggies

Waaagh! Banner Nob - robed, Power Klaw, DA Banner inspired

Biker Boss on Jetbike (a la Sammael)

Biker Nobz

whalemusic360 wrote:A warning tho, its going to be pretty friggin orky

I forgot to add - is there any other kind?

Miss Dee wrote:How about doing Gork or Mork?

More information please!

@Everyone - thanks for reading!

Updated with new ideas from later in thread...

Looks like fun was had by all (especially matty) at Silver Sorceror. Look forward to hearing more.

Splitting your schedule down sounds like a better plan, good luck with keeping the paint before the 'mekaniks'

Your full schedule looks pretty hectic, but if I may....
Move that Stormraven up to the top of the list


Oh, and as to the disc-deffkopta - you thinking on same style as the incredibles one, with an outer ring? I've been trying to figure out one designed like a single enclosed rotor with the pilot sitting above the 'shaft', weapon pod underneath.

Also any tips you thought up when doing the robes on your orks? I'm thinking of some robed orkus mekanikus as flash gits, and can't think of any robed figures that would work as orks so think it's time to start practising some gs-skills.

Yup - fun had by all - though I wasn't involved in matty's fun... So far I have managed to keep the paint before the 'mekaniks'. Past experience tells me where I'll be at if I don't (sea of grey). Your preference has been noted, though I must admit, I have probably given the Stormraven Deffkopta the least thought. That and I don't really *need* another Deffkopta yet... Then again, I need a Stormboyz Nob even less. Cool projects just can't be stopped can they?

Yes - someone suggested (and pictured) "The Incredibles" one with the outer ring somewhere in my blog history, so it got added to the list What's the stumbling block for your idea? You'll need the outer ring, which will need to be attached to the centre shaft - either above, below or both. Off the top of my head, I'd go above - probably with three or four arched beams equidistant around the ring meeting at a platform that includes driver, engines and stalk down to rotor. You could extend the stalk through the rotor to a smaller platform with attached (swivelling?) weapon pod?

I've attempted two different methods for robes. My Big Mek has robes made from the Dark Angels Upgrade Sprue - I cut one of the robed Marines in half, then cut the robe bottom in half again, cut out the Space Marine legs and hollowed out enough so that I could fit the two halves over Ork Nob legs. I then GSed the gaps and joined to his shirt. Not too shabby, but a lot of work!

My Painboy, Meganob and Bosspole Nob were all practise attempts at GS robes. I think this is going to be the cheaper, more flexible option - as well as forcing GS skill improvements - which can only be good in the long run.

Keep up the good work!

So why is the Big Mek (plain)? Shouldnt he be a Tek 'Rine?

And the Biker boss needs a Jetbike for sure (Sammy), mega armored warboss Belial-ish. I can probally come up with more crossovers. I play DA btw.

Ah yes, he will be a Tek 'Rine - plain as in with KFF only (my current one has KFF + Burna)

I had been thinking I should do a Jetbike (Sammy) - but hadn't quite made the leap to Biker Boss (I was probably originally thinking Deffkopta - I have Deffkoptas on the brain!). Jetbike Biker Boss - I will update the list momentarily!

I was thinking Azrael for the mega armoured warboss. I know he is in power armour - but it is artificer armour. Also, I wanted to do two Grot "seekers" as wound counters - one the helmet bearer, and one dragging a large sword Belial just can't compete!

As a DA player your input is most welcome! Keep it coming! Oh, and so is everyone else's...

Gork and Mork are the two Ork gods.

I think he meant more info on how you propose to model the two orky gods, rather than who are they

Miss Dee wrote:Gork and Mork are the two Ork gods.

endtransmission wrote:I think he meant more info on how you propose to model the two orky gods, rather than who are they

This. My first thought was Stompas - but I wasn't sure whether that was what you had in mind - or something smaller... or larger... or just prompting an idea for me to run with I thought I'd fish for more information without potentially influencing your reply. Stompa (or larger) is definitely (this week anyway) not on my near term schedule!

If you don't want something as large as a stompa, perhpas a mega-deff-dread, or a suitably converted deff-dread?

Heh, I figured the stormraven would be fairly low on the list, fully understand, but that was the one that caught my eye

I realised what was bugging me about my diskus kopta was the fact I hadn't really thought out the connection between the outer ring and the shaft area, doh. Thanks for that.

I had thought of the robed marines but not thought about removing the legs, must have missed that bit - I should go back over your blog to check what else I missed - I'll give that a go before trying my GS-fu.

Cheers, keep on trukkin'

Would also be kinda cool to see Snikrot as a Namaan referance (the oop named scout for DA) and the Nob Waaagh Banner guy whos just genearic now, maybe with a robe.
Also the shock gun as a thunderfire cannon would be ironic, cuz DA cant have one, lol.

Arakasi wrote:
This. My first thought was Stompas - but I wasn't sure whether that was what you had in mind - or something smaller... or larger... or just prompting an idea for me to run with I thought I'd fish for more information without potentially influencing your reply. Stompa (or larger) is definitely (this week anyway) not on my near term schedule!

Mega-Stompa! x2! You know you want to! And have it walk

Looted Titans. Reavers even. Totally affordable.

*Looks around for Reavers*

@SilverMK2: I do want to do some Deff Dreads and Kans - but so far down the list they didn't make it... Actually, I'd like to fill out all the options in the Codex eventually, but I am under no illusion how long that might take me! A Mega Deff Dread would be cool - but it sounds like I need to be working towards 1500pts for Silver Sorcerer II and a Mega Deff Dread ain't helping! All excellent ideas though. Would be better if I wasn't scared of trying to achieve the awesomeness of your Daemon Prince and Summoned Greater Daemon!

@monkeytroll: Glad to help!

@whalemusic360: Good idea - the Snikrot as a Namaan reference. He doesn't seem to even get a mention in the DA Codex . Do you have a good source of information I can use - otherwise it may be a reference in name only... I hadn't given Snikrot much thought at this point.... Nobz are highly likely to be part of da Inna Circul, and hence robed. I was planning to base the Waaagh! Banner on one of the DA Banners - but again, thats about as far as my thought process had gone. He was going to be robed though - sorry if my list hides some of the details - but you guys manage to tease it out of me... I hadn't given the Shokk Attack Gun much thought either (I'm detecting a trend...) - so far I'm loving the thunderfire idea - even if I have no idea how to work it (yet) - even if it is ironic (though they might get it later right?)

And now the madness begins...

CommissarKhaine wrote:Mega-Stompa! x2! You know you want to! And have it walk

whalemusic360 wrote:Looted Titans. Reavers even. Totally affordable.

Miss Dee wrote:*Looks around for Reavers*

Riiight. Not while I have less than 2000pts painted. Not this year methinks! If I feel inspired, I might start on some sketches....

Where did the paint brigade go? It sure does seem a conspiracy to tempt me to put modelling before paint... maybe that is what monkeytroll meant...

They're lying in wait... ready to pounce...

Arakasi wrote:@SilverMK2: I do want to do some Deff Dreads and Kans - but so far down the list they didn't make it... Actually, I'd like to fill out all the options in the Codex eventually, but I am under no illusion how long that might take me! A Mega Deff Dread would be cool - but it sounds like I need to be working towards 1500pts for Silver Sorcerer II and a Mega Deff Dread ain't helping! All excellent ideas though. Would be better if I wasn't scared of trying to achieve the awesomeness of your Daemon Prince and Summoned Greater Daemon

Haha! My models are not that great (I know my SGD needs a lot more work ). From what I remember of your 1,000 point army (even though it would have kicked my butt if we had played on for a bit longer - my list really didn't work for me ), you could be missing some long range firepower. Dreads are both mobile and can be very shooty (as well as being good inc CC too ). They also make ideal icons for Gok/Mork

Also plenty of options on them for you to stick magnets on

Were my Deffkoptas not long range enough for you? The one that went after your Havocs was unlucky - even if I was surprise to find they had two close combat weapons! He still did his job though

After the Deffkoptas I rely on the Boarding Planks and Fast Trukks. If someone manages to put all three Trukks down in my deployment zone, I'm toast. If they can do that, they can put down a Dread over the three plus turns he takes to close - and Ork shooting is atrocious!

But I agree they do make ideal icons for Gork/Mork, as well as having plenty of options to stick magnets on

Madness? Me?

On a more serious note: I think I still have the old WD were Namaan is first mentioned (an old 40K campaign pack IIRC); if you tell me what you're looking for, i'll see if I can dig it up.

Was watching Serenity when Reavers was said.

I've just been looking through this thread and they're looking pretty sweet. That Mek looks the business so far and those Jump Packs are awesome. Great work!

The Namaan model had a chainsword and Asupex (or whatever they're called). Ive got 2 I need to paint up still (one will be a BA)

@CommissarKhaine, @whalemusic360: Any background information that would be helpful to determining a suitable tie-in. A chainsword and Auspex by itself does not scream Snikrot to me... - unless I change his rippy knives to rippy chainknives perhaps... More likely that I do one of the Kommandos mimicking the model pose... (Even a Kommando Nob is difficult, as I'd much prefer to take a Power Klaw, all things considered) - This is still open to suggestion/inspiration though...

@Miss Dee: Which means I'm still not sure where you were going with the Gork and Mork ideas...

@warspawned: Thanks!

If you wanted a power klaw but did not want to model one, you could always give him a power jaw instead? Something nice and metal and big, leaving you free to give him more "fitting" looking weapons?

How about a power scythe? That's very marine like *and* "dark angel" like (i.e. the grim reaper).

Because I'm too lazy to look for my WD:

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Yeah, we don't care about that new-fangled 'paint' stuff they keep trying to sell us on, just make some cool stuff

@SilverMK2, Gitsplitta: Both excellent suggestions. Not really helping my feeble mind with Snikrot/Naaman, but excellent nonetheless. Will ponder some more...

@CommissarKhaine: Thanks. Will check out momentarily. Looks like more info than the first site I checked...

@monkeytroll: Your wish...

Stormboyz Nobz - now with more Wingz!











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Hmmm.... Sgt Naaman's body apparently was never found on Piscina IV.... interesting "...experts at silent death using a variety of weapons including combat knives as well as silence bolt pistols." I think I can work with that

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Looks pretty cool man
At first I thought the individual vanes were all seperated from each other but I think that was just the angle of the pic. Loe the helmet on the top guy too.

Give the stormboyz jetpacks, rokkit-packs and wings...that's pretty damn orky, and pretty damn dark angelly too - well, apart from the rokkit-pack bit

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Cool. He reminds me a bit of Nightowl from Watchmen, but with a jock instead of a nerd- totally orky!

Oh my god those guys are fething awesome!

My one nitpick is that the marine on their bases overhang ALOT.

But yeah, rule of cool means ICGAFF.
Been luking this one for a while, awesome nobz man~!

Hm....Not sure if I'm sold on the wings yet. We'll see how they grow on me. Other than that, these look really cool.

@Everyone: Thanks! The lengths I go to to tempt lurkers to comment...

@Darth Bob: The marines weren't meant to originally overhang by that amount, but when theory and reality collide, well, sometimes you get unexpected results... Those marines may be small, but gee are they bulky! Miss Dee suggested earlier a 40mm base - however it still wouldn't be perfect unless I was prepared to have the ork off centre and the marines cut down more... I'm happy with it for now - its not like a Nob with outstretched arm and wingz is ever going to stay within 25mm... Open to further comment/suggestion though...

@Artsoldier35: Can you articulate what it is about the wingz you don't like? They are not quite what I originally envisioned (see comment above about theory and reality...), but at the moment I think my main problem is they are too clean. I'm hoping some battle damage - chipping, bullet holes etc - plus perhaps some pistons and/or chain might Orky them up more satisfactorily. What do you think?

Some pistons and orky workings would be pretty cool, I was going to suggest it earlier, but I'm not sure there's space for anything there without it becoming a bit too busy?

I know *exactly* what you mean. It was always in my mind to do, but the model is already pretty busy. Only one way to find out though!

*Banging head against wall, thinking about what I'm going to have to do to even come CLOSE to being worthy of an exchange for the storm boy*

The problem that I have with the wings is that they seem to start too high up - have you considered lowering them at all? I know there probably isn't enough room, but hey

@Gitsplitta: Just think of it as a challenge No - I am *not* doing the rest of your Stormboyz

@SilverMK2: I think I know what you mean, and if so, no I hadn't considered it. I think you may be right - that there is probably not enough room. I'm certainly not unhappy with it as it stands - so I don't think I'll be pulling it apart to try...

Just to give you guys some more background into the initial concept, these two pics were my starting inspiration for the wings...

American Eagle landing:
http://www.firstpeople.us/pictures/eagles/1280x1024/Bald-Eagle-Landing-1280x1024.html

Necromunda: Yeld Spyrer:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490068a&prodId=prod1740000

You will see in both, the wings start at the shoulders and then move up.

Of course, the pose has changed a bit from the original crouching idea I had...

I'm not lurking... I just don't have as much time to look and type a meaningful comment...

I wasn't convinced of the wings before you added... well, the wings. I've been a pure picture kind of blogger lately, so I didn't know you were going to add "feathers". THe helmet wings on the second one look a bit crooked, though.
THose wings sure do a lot for line of sight

I'd never accuse you of lurking The Good Green! Always welcome your comments when you have cause to give them.

Re crooked helmet wings - could be the camera angle, could just be because he's an Ork! One of his is trimmed to fit though - so they are different sizes...

I have come to the realisation there isn't a lot of basic boyz in my upcoming plans. It seems Da Dark Angelz are continuing to put toyz before boyz... I'm surprised no-one else mentioned it really...

Oh that's right, you're all here for the conversions, not my army balance!

Painting is continuing slowly. *Really* glad I reduced the number of models I'm working on at once...

Don't think I can bring myself to work on da Stormboyz tonight I think I need to move to pin them before I'll be able to finish the details... Klaw needs to be finished, Bosspoles need to be added. Other minor details - should be able to finish the modelling next week I think - even with the short week.

Might play around with my Predator/Battlewagon instead Or might just call it a night...

Had to put in an order for more plastic and super glue - the plastic glue has deteriorated to almost unusable, and the super glue went gluggy!

<Not Mod mode>

Im going to have to pretend to movie this thread to the 40k Army Lists Section.

Could be the camera angle. Is the one under the rokkit? I'd like to see a close up of how the wings are attached on the top nob too, if you have time. It looks like a rod going through two holes in the nob's head.
*whisper* don't forget to fix the barrel hole on the 2nd nob.

Yes, the one under the rokkit is "clipped" to fit. I'll get you a close up of the wing attachment next week. Both helmet wings are pinned in place. The top nob has holes in his head where I tried attaching them in a different way initially - which just means you can see the pinning. This will be covered up later with GS.

On closer inspection, I don't think I will be able to get pistons or chains to work. If they were going to work, they probably only would work on the rear - which wouldn't help the front anyway. I think battle damage, plus perhaps some added plates/rivets will do the job. Thinking about attaching extra spikes/blades along the wing top too...

I think they can almost obscure a Trukk (well, one without wheels, from the front anyway...) - not that that was my intention...

Played around with bitz from the Battlewago and Predator kits - did you know the "holes" match for size? I am predicting awesome things ahead...




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What is wrong with the barrel hole? It's a bit off centre, but that's Orky right?

Arakasi wrote:
Played around with bitz from the Battlewago and Predator kits - did you know the "holes" match for size? I am predicting awesome things ahead...

Interesting, I'll have to keep that in mind. Looted wagon or battlewagon?

Looted wagon - magnetised with all options of course - though playing experience dictates that the magnetisation will be done with more regard to surviving gaming...

It also matches the sizes of the back hatch inserts on the land raider. The only one they don't match up to is the one for the TL HB.

The last few times you've posted pics of the nobz, I thought they were done being modeled. It's nuts how much detail you put in. I hope I have that much time some day, and at least half your skill.

Actually I like that helmet where you can see the pin I see that head in more of a bionik mask fashion myself, and was thinking of the ork ramming a pole through his head to attach his 'elmet wingz to

Guess that's just my viewpoint though

monkeytroll wrote:I see that head in more of a bionik mask fashion myself

Iron Man anyone?

monkeytroll wrote:ramming a pole through his head to attach his 'elmet wingz to

So very orky! good point

With the wings, how about cabling from the top front down and round to the rear of the wings. That way there's something visual from the front and it attaches at the rear where you think there is a bit of space.

Finally have some progress to report on Arakasi's "bug boss".

Well, I sat down and worked out the arms with orkish "mantis arm" equivalents. They went together cleanly and relatively smoothly. There are a few details to add and a little green stuffing, but other than that they're set. Unfortunately I realized that the only nobs I have are the Black Reach ones, and while these are good figures they are pretty much molded as completed figures, making posing or customizing a challenge. I had several ideas for how I was going to transform my ork, but after staring at it, the bits at hand and trying out just about every option I had... I scrapped most of my ideas. Am looking now for new bits... failing that a major re shaping of one of the Black Reach nobs will be in order (or a major re-design of my concept...). Very frustrating.

- Gits


Update:

I just had an epiphany that saved the project!! Yippie! It's going to take a bit of gerrymandering but I think I can proceed as originally planned. Will post a pic as soon as there's something to photograph.. right now it's just a bunch of sawed up bits.

@ Arakasi: Sorry took me so long to respond. Yes, I think the wings are off because of the cleanliness. TOO Clean. I think, now that you mention it, that some severe battle damage would Orkify them enough for my taste. Ultimately the figs are yours and only really need to please you...and your trader. Anxiously waiting to see the results.

@Heffling: Good to know!

@The Good Green: Apologies for the confusion! Basically, any time I've made some progress, I try to put a pic up. On the plus side, I get to post more than once a month but more importantly, I can get feedback before I have moved too far along. On the negative side, sometimes I get comments that will be answered once more of the vision is together. I hate to rework stuff, especially once the foundation coat is on - so this way I give everyone plenty of time to make their most excellent suggestions Don't worry - I (usually) give ample warning that this is "done" and you have your last chance to comment before the first coat of paint goes on! The Nobz aren't there yet - hopefully end of this week...

I love doing the details, and I love improving my ability and skills to do so. I've seen your work - you do not give yourself enough credit! I never feel like I have "that much time" though... I get about 3-4 hours 4 nights a week - and this is all I have to show for it When Da Boss gets her wish and I'm not working away from home so much, I imagine there will be a decrease in time... I'm hoping to finish the current round of painting *before* then

@monkeytroll: You would! I don't think the holes are going to make it - but you'll still be able to see the ends outside the helmet wings Note to everyone - when talking about wings - please be clear *which* wings you are referring! Your idea of cabling is interesting, if you could just provide more info (ie to which wings you are referring in first and second part!)

@HadoukenAvenger: You forgot the obligatory "stay away - it's *my* idea"

@Gitsplitta: Looking forward to seeing more! (especially an update on the pics in the Great Marine Swap)

@Artsoldier35: No worries - life before Dakka as Da Boss always says... I've managed to catch myself multiple times saying things like "in my opinion" etc in other posts - it really does go without saying. My aim is not to please everyone - apart from being impossible, well, it may lead to stuff I don't like either. However - I do appreciate all comments and suggestions - even if I appear to ignore some . Sometimes they lead to unexpected and totally unrelated ideas. Sometimes I just forget In this case, it helped me to clarify something that was niggling at me. Once you know what is causing something to be "off", its actually possible to do something about it. Hopefully I can address it satisfactorily in my next iteration.

I expect no more or less of you when I get to your trade

If anyone's interested in seeing what Arakasi's getting in return for that phenomenal storm boy nob, I've got a WIP up on the "great marine swap" thread. So far... so good.

Yes, ultimately it's all for you and those you play against. Your models are incredible and far beyond what most of us could do anyway. It's an extreme pleasure to watch your models progress.

@Gitsplitta: Feel free to post the pics here too if you want...

@Artsoldier35: Thanks, though I think you do yourself a disservice - practise makes progress! There are plenty of Dakkites that easily put me to shame, that I hope to one day achieve their level of ability. Still, if you (all) promise to keep making such excellent comments and suggestions, I promise to keep you all informed as I work towards it!




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Some progress on da Stormboyz Nobz... Orkified da wingz (chipped, battered, bullet holes, plates, rivits). Added Bosspoles. The aim with the Bosspole's was to allow pennant style banners. I may have overdone it Though it looks better on Nob 1 than Nob 2 in my opinion... (due to the angle of da wingz). If I keep them here, I still need to clip and re-attach the hangings (skulls, teef, bullets) so that they are not gravity defying. If I don't, well, the only other option would seem to be to place them more vertically on the Jump Pack rokkits. Your thoughts required!

Stormboyz Nob 1 (for Gitsplitta)


Stormboyz Nob 2 (for me)

Arakasi wrote:@Gitsplitta: Feel free to post the pics here too if you want...

Sure Arakasi, thank you!

So here's my poor attempt at living up to the standard that Arakasi is setting. It's a "bug boy"... a Bad Moon nob from my Boss Gitsplitta's band that has become so enamored of the Mantis Warrior Vanguard (who they battle frequently) that he has kitted himself out to emulate them. He's donned some bits from a captured suit of terminator armor (legs and shoulder pads) and has paid many teef for one of the meks in the clan to make "dem bug boy reachy, ouchy tings" (the Arms of the Mantis). I suppose I could take a pic of the bug boy & a vanguard side-by-side so you can see the comparison, but I'll save that 'till he's finished.

Need to sort out his backpack & insect "wings" next. I have ideas but not the bits... working on that last part.

Definitely looks better on 1 than 2. Think they need shortening a tad if they're staying there.

As to my cable ramblings I meant on the actual wings, if you were still looking for extra 'workings' on the wings, but looking a bit closer I'm not sure it would work, heres a quick pic anyway(sorry for the poor mspaint-fu)


Actually if you kept the cable in contact with the wing strut all the way, rather than wrapping loosely around it might be ok - could maybe carry it up the banner pole too

Gitsplitta - v.nice, love those 'bug boy reachy, ouchy tings'

Hmmm... on further reflection, I'm thinking I will move the Bosspoles to the Rokkit packs - it just seems to take too much away from the wingz. Also, I think the tops are too heavy, I think I'll cut them off and replace them with single skulls/helmets instead. Suggestions welcome!

Yeah, weight distribution is an issue I'm having to keep in mind for yours as well. The rock and weighted base will help, but I have to be careful with the materials I choose for his backpack & how I build his insect wings. His final placement on the base will be determined by where he needs to be to keep his center of balance squarely on the base so he has less of a tendency to tip.

For what it's worth, I think moving the poles off the wing struts is a good idea for the exact reasons you state. Also if you boss poles end up at angles, you might want to either reposition or trim off the danglies so they aren't "hanging" at a 30-degree angle.

Arakasi wrote:I still need to clip and re-attach the hangings (skulls, teef, bullets) so that they are not gravity defying

Gitsplitta wrote:Also if you boss poles end up at angles, you might want to either reposition or trim off the danglies so they aren't "hanging" at a 30-degree angle.

Noted I don't think it will be an issue after the transplant. By "too heavy" I actually meant aesthetically - they draw the attention up from the head to the jump pack - completely the wrong focus. Weight distribution *is* a worthy consideration. Currently it doesn't seem to be an issue here though...

Sorry I missed you already addressing that point... it's what I get for just looking at the pics & not reading carefully.

I get what you're saying... and I see it to. When I look at the last pic of yours up there, my eyes are immediately drawn away from the figure & up to the tips of the boss poles.

Interesting bit, that. Have to watch that in my own modeling.



Update: think I just sorted it out... going to take a bit of scratch building... but we'll see what we can do.

@monkeytroll: Not ignoring you! Is that two cables - a red and a green? Currently probably won't use - good idea, but I'm getting to the point where I need to top adding things! With that in mind...

Update! Repositioned and de-emphasized the Boss Poles. I think they are a *lot* better - how about you? Finished the Klaws. Getting perilously close to finished... I want to do a last check against the Stormboyz bodies - see if there is anything I can/want to add - but I'm pretty much at the point where adding stuff is more likely to detract... Then there is some GS work to fill gaps and smooth joins - might even manage to complete them this week! (Modelling wise that is)

Gitsplitta's Stormboy Nob


My Stormboy Nob

I like the smaller bosspole icons. Draws less attention away from the ork himself.

Yep, looks better with these

Was showing the 2 placements I'd thought off, sorry should have said that Yeah, I think it'd be too much clutter (unless it was a thin cable, tightly wrapped ), was just throwing it out as you'd asked for a clearer explanation - which I then failed to give

Klaws look good, especially on the second guy

Progress:

Back pack and wings are in progress. Might have a WIP shot on the morrow.

Gits

Awesome! The wings are coming out great. I like where you are going with the boss poles, but I don't think this new pair is Nobish enough. I like the SM icon, all shot up, but the toothy blade looks too small.

The klaws look good. It looks like you carved some of the SM armour away under the blades. All in all, very amazing work! It's funny, too- the more you do to them the more they look like mirror images.

You too, Gitsplitta. Da Bug Boy looks fantastic.

Man that stormy boy is epic on a level I cant really describe. Incredible job. I am going to have to copy them for my next set of storm boyz. Quite impressive. The Praying Mantis chainsaws are a nice touch.

@whalemusic360: Mission accomplished then!

@monkeytroll: Thanks! All suggestions appreciated - you never know where they might actually turn up!

@Gitsplitta: Can't wait (but I guess I'll have to...)

@The Good Green: Imagine two streaming pennants, one on each Boss Pole - is that Nobish enough? (that is where I am going... eventually...) The toothy blade should just look like a small piece of ornamentation on top of this - not the main event (which is what I had before...)

Yes - I've carved out the SM armour under the blades And yes - they are meant to look like mirror images, or twins, without being exactly the same

You can't see it in these shots, but they have Hermes like wingz on the back of their boots too

And I concur, da Bug Boy is looking fantastic too - and Gitsplitta thought he couldn't compete - bah!



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@Frenzied Potato: Thanks! (you got in just before my reply!)

The reason Im not saying anything is that Im lost for words.

May I take that as a good thing?

With the way these are turning out...I'm getting super excited and a little nervous for our trade. How can anything I do compete or compare to what you can do? These are magnificent.

I take it the wingz are now more to your liking

If its any consolation - I'm currently trying not to even think about how I'm going to top these two...

Don't be nervous though - the aim of the swap is to do the best you can, perhaps stretching yourself and trying something new. Your best for my best. Do that, and it will be a fair swap

Your models are very much to my liking now.

Don't worry about topping them for me as i was just looking for a regular boy (maybe a big shoota) to trade. If you go all hog wild crazy though....I have something that might wow you! It's already built and just needs some paint.

@Arakasi: Important question for you! Do you want humorous, or serious??

In other words when people look at your bug boy do you want people to chuckle or not?


@Artsoldier35: LOVE your avatar by-the-way!

@ Git: Why thank you. Yours is smashing also!

Gitsplitta wrote:@Arakasi: Important question for you! Do you want humorous, or serious?? In other words when people look at your bug boy do you want people to chuckle or not?

Da Dark Angelz are pretty serious, usually... but da Bug Boy ain't a Dark Angel (well, not really...) - which is a long way to saying I don't really have a preference - whatever you think is best or that you prefer.

Perhaps I should ask what you have in mind?

Arakasi wrote:May I take that as a good thing?

Yes

Brilliant models, and love the wings. The more understated bosspoles fit in better as well. Nice work!

No pics tonight - GS curing (ended up doing the pennants with GS... its.. okay... will probably look better once I trim it, add bullet holes - the usual Orky stuff )

Bases are done. GS gap filling done. (No more holes in the head!) Didn't get any painting done this week

@Artsoldier35: A regular boy or big shoota would be fine. I have an idea for a big shoota already... Intrigued by what you have already built...

@CommissarKhaine: Thanks - coming from you it means a lot.

@Arakasi: No problem... turns out that the backpack/wing design has changed multiple times and drastically in about 24 hours, so the "humor" option kind of faded when I finally settled down and actually started building. It kind of came full circle for the final build and I think (hope) you'll be happy with the result.

I may or may not make progress because it's Football tonight!! (that's American football to all you goofy kids across the pond). Time to sit with my family in front of the big plasma, BBQ up some chicken wings & much on veggies & dip while I spend the evening screaming at the TV and watching big fething guys pound the living bejeezus out of each other for MY entertainment...

WOOT!!

@ Arakasi: No the special item would be if you wanted to trade big. I've got regular boys and big shootas just laying around almost stock build.

I figured the twin thing was on purpose. It looks great. I can't wait to see pics of the little boot wings.

@Gitsplitta: Ah, the fun of imagination vs reality! I'm sure I will be estatic! Hope you enjoyed the game - even if it wasn't Aussie Rules

@Artsoldier35: The Stormboyz Nob wasn't *supposed* to be a "big" trade I'm sure we'll have fun just determining *what* we end up doing

@The Good Green: Your wish is my command? (Including, hopefully, a better view of how the wingz - all of them - are attached, as requested earlier...)

Gitsplitta's "Great Marine Swap" (with decorative Stormboyz Nob with Boss Pole and Power Klaw)


My "it's a keepa!" Stormboyz Nob with Boss Pole and Power Klaw


Still have to clean up then Orkify the "pennants", but otherwise its done! Expect foundation coat Tuesday

As always, click through for a more detailed view...

Good job! Think those pennants will be looking sweet once they've undergone a bit of orkification

Missing those holes in the head though

Here you go Arakasi. Not quite complete yet, still some detailing to do (bosspole, etc), but basically done.

Awesome!

Looking cool both of'em!

Better late than never!
Da Dark Angelz vs El Quixo, 1250pts, Flank Attack! (Pic heavy)

Da Dark Angelz invade Silver Sorcerer 2010 (8 Mini Batreps, Pic Heavy!)

Nice reads both, and that's coming from a non-player

@monkeytroll: Thanks again! I'll have to put a propa cybork - complete with holey head - in my to do list just for you. Glad you enjoyed the batreps.

@CommissarKhaine: They are indeed

Right, so minor update. I've orkied up the pennants, so the Stormboyz Nobz are ready for their foundation coat - weather willing tomorrow morning... No pics - you are just going to have to trust me for now Also - ages ago, when I was building quickly to 750pts and didn't think having 1/3 of my force in reserve was a bad idea, I quickly put together some Burnas for my Kommandos. Needing only basing, I thought I'd complete them ready for the foundation coat spray tomorrow morning I don't think I've ever put them up here before, so here they are. The left one will eventually just be a normal Burna boy - he's currently with the Kommandos until I do the propa metal Kommando Burna boy, while the other is kitbashed to be a propa Kommando Burna boy. Nothing special here really - but not everyone can be...

Burnas - Front


Burnas - Rear


I have also been making slow process on my painting. Only the skin is highlighted so far, and no washes have yet been applied. So slow! Actually, I think my modelling will be on hold now until my new plastic and super glue arrive...

Shoota


Shoota


Shoota


Enjoy!

Arakasi

Arakasi wrote: Nothing special here really - but not everyone can be...

'Every spore is sacred
Every spore is great
If a spore is wasted
Gorka gets quite irate'


I fell your pain on the slow paint front. I was gonna take some PIP shots but realised how pitiful one sometimes two layers of green and a couple of different browns spread across a few minis looked. So I'll make like an ostrich and make some more

Have to just say that I'm impressed by the way the green on green looks, generally my attempts at differing shades of the same colour on the same piece generally end up merging a bit. Mainly because of my habit of falling back on bleached bone as a mainstay of my highlights.

Awwww! Get'im ladz!

The burnas are looking good. And they're quite effective in-game, as I've found out. The dark angel colours are looking good as well, with the old-skool red guns

I remember a time I teleported some terminators right by shortly thereafter dismounted burnaboyz. Not a good turn for my terms

Arakasi the wings are amazing. I will not resent being assaulted by them at all. Well... not much.

@CommissarKhaine: Yes - I expect they will do better with numbers (ie more than two in a Kommando mob...) - but not happening anytime soon

@Lord Kaesar II: I am not surprised

@troy_tempest: Thanks! Though I don't think you need to worry about facing him any time soon - he needs some buddies, and they aren't currently on my list...

So I was lacking motivation this evening. Managed to force myself to undercoat the Stormboyz Nobz and Burnas. Dragged myself to tidy up the undercoat where the spray didn't get to. Managed to get enthused enough to start on one of the Rokkit packs - base layer of Dark Angels Green down on one of them. I do like Dark Angels Green It just looks *right*...

I think the motivation problem is with the shoota boyz. I've been following the Black Orc Big Boss Masterclass in WD365 - and I think I overdid step 6 on the skin (wash of Scab Red followed by Ogryn Flesh in recesses). For the armour I've been following the Ask 'eavy Metal in WD369 for Disciples of Caliban - what *is* the difference between washing with thinned down Chaos Black vs Badab Black wash Anyway, I think my highlight on the clothing/armour is still too severe. I'll try to post some pics up tomorrow night...

Tonight I still need to find Orky exhausts to photo for whalemusic360's Deffwing Deff Dread he is doing for me as part of the Great Marine Swap. Given my lack of pics this evening, and his lack of posting them here (you are welcome to!), I'd highly recommend heading over that way and taking a look - and leaving a comment. (Which reminds me, I should add my own comments from our PMs )

tony_nids_10 - if you're reading this - I sent you a PM re our upcoming swap. If I don't hear a reply before I get my new glue, I'll start talking to Artsoldier35

Over and out!

Here's some pics of said Dred. Still very WIP so keep that in mind. Already added a view port the the front. Not sure I can live up to the stormboyz though.

I'm ready whenever you are.

Arakasi,

I want to apologize in advance for imbuing your fierce Bug Boy Nob with a bit of humor... I just couldn't help it. As usual, I had a bit of unplanned, serendipitous inspiration while working on the boss pole that has transformed your ork from a neat project into my favorite ork of all time. It's not silly or demeaning... it's just... funny, in that quirky way orks were funny back in the RT days when I started playing 40k. I hope you will forgive this conceit, but a humorless ork is antithetical to my green-skin world view. The sad thing is if I tried this on any of my orks... it would look dumb and out of place... on your's though... it's perfect.

Here are the final build shots... first a large shot of figure next to marine for size comparison.



Next a close up of the boss pole / bionik ear / radio antenna. It's a 3-stage retractable car antenna complete with antenna ball & direct feed into the orks head-gear! Think I'll make the ball look like the Jack-in-the-Box dude.



Enjoy!

<3

My only concern is if the wings were in motion, these perspectives make it hard to judge!

@ChrisCP: Well, the wings aren't actually supposed to work enough to get him up in the air (Arakasi requested no jump pack)... they're just supposed to give the illusion of flying to add to his ferocity (or so he thinks). I imagine they "flap" more so than any type of spinning that might be interfered with by the antennae... besides, it's retractable right? :-)

Haha, got me there with the retraction makes sense thou
Btw orks with Pauldrons are just soo in this year~!

@Artsoldier35: I thought you would be. There's no point until I get my glue (2 weeks now, is there a shortage in the UK? Or have I been spoilt by my last two Wayland orders being as advertised?)

@Gitsplitta: He is looking really good! The humor either went over my head or just fits my view of Orks - I came in at the start of 2nd edition (well, the first time...) Da Dark Angelz do tend to lean towards a more serious, grimdark side (in keeping with Dark Angels ) - but they are still Orks! The Stormboyz Nobz in particular are meant to be serious, and more importantly, static poses. The landing and violence are in the past, and left to the imagination - you only see the aftermath. The quick draw of the pistol, in reaction to a noise or movement, drawing the Nobz attention away from his "kill", is also in the past. We are left in the still moment before he decides to shoot and charge, or soar back up into the heavens. The only "humor" - potentially - is the size of the Rokkit pack required to lift his bulk!

The wingz make good "counts as" 'eavy armour too methinks

@ChrisCP: Are they?

Cool Arakasi... we're good.

I keep in mind that the point of this exercise is NOT that I make you a Dark Angel, but that I make you a Bad Moon Bug Boy to run with your Dark Angelz... and visa versa. So the fact that both will stand out in comparison to their units is not only good, but kind of the whole point... isn't it?

Absolutely! The only thing they should have in common is being Orky and awesome

And both of you guys have made some AWESOME Ork models. Great job guys.

You have really been working on this for a long time... And it looks really cool... But I still prefer the name Da Ork Angelz...

@Artsoldier35: Thanks again - but I know you are just itching for your turn

@Saintspirit: Thanks! You're not the only one, but I prefer it this way, so its not changing. Sorry

Another Rokkit pack and first marine corpse done in DA Green. Its added to my painting load, but not detracting at this point. I think its because its still new and interesting and I haven't done enough to screw it up yet As the Stormboyz Nobz don't need to be minimally ready for a tournament or game, I think I'll stick to doing a section at a time this go around, from the inside out.

That's it for this week. Doesn't feel overly productive, but progress has been made, which is better than nothing...

I know, I know, you are all just waiting for the next modelling project I seem to have lost the paint brigade somewhere along the line...

I love the plasticard dark angels symbol on the dread! The arms look a bit awkward though, honestly.

I wanted them to be effing huge, and therefore orkish. Keep in mind this is the only ork thing I've ever done outside of a few boys and it is still very wip. Anything you can point out specifically that would help?

Started the process of painting Arakasi's bug boy tonight. It's not much to look at... but as soon as I get it looking like something I'll post a pic.

@Darth Bob, whalemusic360: I think I have worked out what the problem is with the arms - the lines are too clean! I imagine you are going to put some rivets on the gun plates, but you could probably do with adding more liberally to the weapons. Also (and I don't know how well the type of plastic used will hold up to this) - you may want to take a hobby knife and cut some of those round edges so that they can be painted scratched and chipped.

@Gitsplitta: Pretty much same

I'm sorry, am I missing something with the boss pole?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Which boss pole?!


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Oh - I presume you mean Git's - I don't even have a pic of the Stormboyz on this page...

Yeah, I can't find the humorous part.

Daddy, am I stupid?

Meh.... obviously my idea of humor in singular... and possibly not actually funny.

The idea of a big, bad ork nob with a boss pole that can raise or lower like an electric antenna on an old Cadillac I find amusing. That's all.

OH, I get it now. It is pretty funny. I thought it looked right at home there. Ya know, bugs....Antennae.....

BTW, congrats on making a figure where that head looks good.

Does that mean it will raise and lower still once painted? I had assumed not...

@HA: Thanks. It really was the only choice. I was trying to find a head that looked vaguely marine-like since there was no way a beakie helmet would fit on an ork, even as a hat (I did think about that). That head configuration is very like many of the non-helmetted commanders you see for SMs, so it was a clear choice.

@Arakasi: Unfortunately no, while I could get the 3 sections to slide inside one another, there was no way to put "stops" into them to keep them from sliding all the way out, so they are indeed glued in place.

Yup, way to smooth. I've hacked and drilled the body and CCW arm, waiting to do the Gun arm until I get the care package.

First time a dread has ever been called "smooth" btw.

Hey Arakasi, I'll update mine if you update yours.

Cheeky! There better be a Big Mek update in yours! I'll see what I can do tonight...

Big Mek heyyy.....


Damn it. I hadn't expected that


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Figure you won't be checking this soon, so here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/316003.page#1929809

P.S: Not my update.

I'd have to check - but boyz headz, sluggas and choppas come to mind - ie pretty much what every Ork player has too many of (Happy to trade slugga/choppas for shootas...)

You have any bodies?

Nope. Well, technically yes, but none "spare" - just currently unused...

So - small update for HadoukenAvenger... (apologies - no pics)

Painting continues... The Stormboyz Nobz are in three parts for painting. The DA green on the SM corpses and Rokkit Packs has been base coated, as well as the Orchide Shade on the Nob skin. Being unhappy with the skin on my Big Mek, I had the motivation (and spare paint) to redo him as well. All green areas have been shaded with Badab Black, pending the start of highlighting tomorrow... The Big Mek's Boss Pole was fixed from its accident at Silver Sorcerer - yay, my new glue arrived!

Meanwhile, Artsoldier35 and I finally negotiated our Great Marine Swap - One Da Dark Angelz Trukk for one insane Nob Biker/Wazdakka and one awesome Trike. Requirements are Big Shoota, Reinforced Ram, Deffwing paintjob with green trim and Da Dark Angelz trademark "I can't believe its not moving" ramshackle look. Everything/anything else is a bonus.

As I do with most of these type of projects - my first stop was Google for inspirational pictures - in this case for both body style and "I can't believe its not moving" positioning. Next is to start playing around with components to get a feel for what might work. Luckily, I have a fourth unmade Trukk. Unluckily, I don't have a fifth - so I will need to rectify that so that I can actually part with one of my babies when they are done...

Ideas are forming. The insanity is about to begin again Artsoldier35 has assured me he is patient! Stay tuned for more exciting episodes...

Oh - and now I have my glue I can "technically" start on my Looted Wagon too... Good thing I promise to paint each night first!

Arakasi

I am very patient but just as a teaser....here's what Arakasi is getting in trade:



and

Well slap me in the face and call me Mary, I'll be damned if that ain't the single most orky bike I ever did see.

And as for Arakasi....Grumblegrumble I guess I'll have to update now Grumblegrumble.

Don't forget the Big Mek!

Don't push me!
Would you settle for some concept sketches and my finished fountain?

Sick trike. This whole army is so amazing, flavorful and stylish!

Very nice trikes

Love the base on the bottom one.

done any scoutz?

@HadoukenAvenger: Nope. Where's my update?

@Miss Dee: No scoutz/kommandoz yet Well, there was that Kommando concept paint job, and more recently a simplish Kommando Burna - but no sniper rifles, cloaks, ghuillie suits or other oddities just yet...

For the rest of you, I guess I can only say thanks on Artsoldier35's behalf

I once again have too much going on...

Damn you. May you contract a severe disease and have your eyes fall out into your cereal bowl.

Now, SOME PEOPLE have photos to take and plogs to update

You realise neither of those are conducive to my own plog updates? Lose/Lose...

Highlighted DA Green washed with Badab Black with DA Green on SM corpses and Rokkit packs - riveting stuff! Promise to post pics once I think they are worthy - but at the moment I don't expect my iPhone will be able to capture the subtle difference from black for you...

Spent *way* too long on Artsoldier35's Trukk - and all I have to show for it is...a tray. When making a ramshackle dynamic Trukk, you *might* think you need to start with the ramshackle dynamic wheels - but no, you need something for them to attach to first... On the up side, the vision is getting clearer in my mind. I'm going to need a new word for "awesome". I'll try to take a pic before I add more tonight, and should be able to get some pics up tomorrow night - if not before.

Let's not get hostile here, Arakasi.

Oooooo...I want to tsee the tray! *starts rubbing hands in a greedy anxious way*

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/295579.page#1584718

There you go.
It was painful.
My drawing will hurt your eyes.

@HadoukenAvenger: Posts crossing in the ether...

@Artsoldier35: Its not *that* impressive yet - but I will try for a pic this evening...


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Nothing to see here. That is all.

Hmm, now I'm presuming your going to use the trukk wheelbase as a yoke and have it pulled by a giant cyber-squig yes?

No? Just me then..

Oooooo...I love it! LOL

Arakasi wrote:@HadoukenAvenger: Posts crossing in the ether...

I really wish I understood what you meant by that.

@monkeytroll: I have to leave some ideas for the rest of you...

@Artsoldier35: So easily pleased - should I call it done then?

@HadoukenAvenger: Only that while you were letting me know of your update here, I was already posting my comment there... It was supposed to be a play on "two ships crossing in the night"...

So - I'll have a pic up later, but its only the Stormboyz Nobz as there isn't much more to show on the Trukk - just to show progress is actually, well, happening... I have a new respect for Marine players - those Marine corpses are fiddly! Tiny details and tiny lines... (its been a long time since I painted a SM)

As for the Trukk - the wheels are together as well as the front wheel guards - though I think these will become part of Armour Plates including an engine cover. I really wanted to start on the ramshackle nature, but it is important to make sure everything is going to fit together how I want it - which requires much posing, and isn't helped by changing ideas as things look like they will or won't work... I think I've worked out how the front needs to go together, so hopefully some decent WIP pics next week. Most importantly I want to see if I can get the thing to balance on three wheels without additional support (Artsoldier35 requested ramshackle and "air" )

I have another Trukk kit arriving next week, so I can make a start on the twin too. I'm already thinking I might try making the back wheel guards slightly narrower on the twin, though I may wait until I've done more of the detail back there - its hard to tell at this point - its all a learning process! Artsoldier35 will, of course, be able to choose which one he prefers in the end

Um....no, don't call it done yet. But the whole getting to choose the one I want sounds really cool.

There should only be minor differences between them. I will tend to reference my preferred one as yours

Ahhhh. The old, "I'll say I like this one so he'll choose that one...unless he thinks I said that to make him choose that one. So I'll in fact choose the one I like so he'll think I choose the onther one to make him choose the one I don't like...Unless he thinks I would do that."

Anyone else seen 'Princess Bride' too many times?

And there I thought he'd just been conversing too much with you... (Just seems like something you would say...)

At least no one should die from the eventual decision... well, no Orks hopefully anyway...

It's one of my wife's favorites. No, seriously! It is. My wife's favorites not mine! Well, ok, I like it a little bit! I mean it had Andre the Giant, and Billy Crystal. C'mon.

Arakasi wrote:At least no one should die from the eventual decision... well, no Orks hopefully anyway...

Unless you roll really badly on the ramshackle table that is

Inconceivable!

Just poison them both!

Errr, wait, I mean, no! Don't do it!

@ Monkeytroll: Thanks. I nearly spat my lunch out. Was wondering who was going to get that one in.

WIP

Ahh, back to the joys of green I see

Very Nice! Progress is always good.

@monkeytroll: There is no back - the green is eternal (or at least it feels that way...). I look forward to doing the *white* wings (No, even the red weapons no longer excite me...)

@Artsoldier35: Even when it's not a Trukk

Are you kidding. I love those NOBZ. Seeing them finished up is going to be awesome! (and it means you're closer to working on the Trukk) Hehe.

Artsoldier35 wrote:I am very patient but just as a teaser....here's what Arakasi is getting in trade:

Arakasi is one lucky guy, thats one nice ork bike.

Mah name iz Orkego Morkoga.
You broke mah shoota.
Prep-air ta die.

^lol

Arakasi wrote:

Monster wheels?

ooooooooo-I can't wait

The Good Green wrote:
Monster wheels?

I was thinking a dozen or so grots either side, Flintstones styleee

I give you.....Looted Dread. Lemme know if there is anything standing out at you guys so I can change it before it goes to primer today.

The dread body is really really sweet, not so hooked on t he guns however...

Hey Arakasi, hows things going, I've not seen this for a while and I gotta say it is looking sweet! I espeially love the Stormboyz! Nice stuff

Imp. Monkey

Wow. I take it the hatch didn't fit. Also - for some reason I thought the second DCCW was going under the gun I just hope the primer takes to that "other" plastic okay... You look like you managed to use most/all of the glyphs too

LOL! Love it!

It's completely mental!

Imperial Monkey wrote:Hey Arakasi, hows things going, I've not seen this for a while and I gotta say it is looking sweet! I espeially love the Stormboyz! Nice stuff

Going well - if slowly... not as far along painting or modelling as I'd like - as usual - but making progress 4 days a week Hopefully will be spending more time in Scotland after Oz in November, so *hopefully* more gaming too...

Gitsplitta wrote:It's completely mental!

You got that right!

Yeah, I had planned to put it elsewhere, but it was much larger then I had planned for. Tried a few different spots, that one seemed the most natural. And I used everything you sent except the mounding plate (it was just too big!) and 2 of the grots.

I agree the guns are a bit OOT, but that's how I see orks, always trying to 1-up each other.

yeah i like the guns very orky i ery ork can see the funny side of a gun to heavy to use

Due to your recommendations, I have moved the CCW part of the gun arm to the bottom. I have to beat up the fresh plasticard and add some rivets on the arm, but shouldn't take much. I'll post new pics of the arm later.

The green gun looks a little 'Baby's first Dreadnought', but the bitz help and so will some paint.

I find it annoying that every time I post everything stops, either for a few days or forever. There's a history of proof. Am I such a conversational hand grenade?

Not at all - I think its just correlated to post count (If you post more often, you are more likely to be last!) I appreciate the effort though!

I only get to work on my Orks Mon, Tues, Wed and Thurs evenings - so I will rarely add actual updates on other days, and then only if I feel I have something worth showing/noting. At the moment, I have slow painting progress on Gitsplitta's Stormboyz Nob (Do you really want to see another layer of green highlight?) and slow modeling on Artsoldier35's Trukk - which is currently in that limbo of small, but unimpressive progress which doesn't even begin (in my mind) to represent where it is headed... If I get enough calls for it I'll put up a WIP anyway

That and I'd prefer to be modeling to taking pics and updating plogs...

Arakasi wrote:
That and I'd prefer to be modeling to taking pics and updating plogs...

I know exactly what you mean

You have a lot of amazing ork conversions! I love the current dred mod you're doing. I'm excited to see both how it turns out and what you do next!

I can't take credit for the Dred mod - that's whalemusic360's contribution as part of the Great Marine Swap Da Dark Angelz are starting to take on a life of their own, with multiple contributors - it can all get a bit confusing... Still - the majority of conversion work (Trukks, Deffkoptas, Stormboyz) is mine - happy to inspire people!

Dangitttt!! I read the earlier part of the forum.. but didn't want to read all 27 pages, so I skipped ahead (even thought I loved some of your earlier work!) and thought that I would confine my compliments to your current projects... but apparently I just fail.

Nice stuff either way. I'll watch in the future and am excited to see more!

Yeah - I really need to create a quick index on the first page...

Arakasi wrote:Yeah - I really need to create a quick index on the first page...

That's actually quite a good idea! I think I might do that for my plog too once it gets going a little more. Is there a way to add anchors (a link to a specific post/part on a page) to pages, or would I only be able to link to the specific page in the forums? (No worries if you don't know!)

Each page has its own URL. There appears to be a hashtag for each comment (its how you can "Skip to first unread") - but I can't see how to easily access it without trawling through the page source... May be one for the Nuts and Bolts forum...

Ez man, if you look at the 'status bar' (click 'view' and 'status bar' for mozilla at least if you don't already have it showing).

When you look at your own posts under profile and hover over the 'Go to message' html it show an additional '...xxxxx.page#xxxxxx' I assume that one could use this as a link to form an index, to posts with important images~!

Hope that helps

That would work - thanks! Obviously hadn't occurred to me before why I would want to see a list of my own posts and links to them...

If you want to link to a specific post of your own, click "edit post" (or quote post) on the post you want to link to and the edit page will have the ID number of that post. Copy the ID and then add it to the thread url with a hash key in front.

For example, this post is http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/780/253544.page#1951183

You can link to other people's posts by clicking on the quote button - the post ID number pops up at the end of the url. Then just do the same as above.

Also, you can click on the little page image to the left of the date. This will "jump" to that post, and will make the link follow suit.
That way you can just copy/paste the link from the address bar!

Even better! Thanks everyone!

New page, new pics! You all deserve it

End of Monday - not much to see here...


End of Tuesday - finally, front wheels starting to take shape...


Now its all well and good being ramshackle, but a lot of effort goes in here to line things up! Why? So we can add detachable "Armour Plates"


Enjoy!

I just crapped my pants! That is too sweet! Great job. One last request on this Trukk. It has to have a license plate with your name on it! This is going to be the trukk my internet squad will ride into battle on and all of the figs have the name of the person who sent it to me on their bases.

OOH! OOH! DO WANT!

@HadoukenAvenger: A conversational hand grenade! Quick! Throw it back...

@Artsoldier35: No sweat on the license plate - though thanks for letting me know early - I'll be able to make sure I incorporate it good 'n propa.

@Everyone:

We are still a *long* way off - I thought I'd be at this stage much sooner... I haven't done spring shocks on the *front* of a Trukk before - so was a little caught out by their being nothing to attach them too... Even then, it was very very fiddly - I think some additional support structure is in order, but that can wait for now.

Of course - it would probably have been easier if I wasn't trying to make sure the bonnet would slip down on top perfectly, including showing the tops of the shocks through the hood...

At the moment you can see the tilt of the vehicle in one plane. The next step is to add the next wheel back on the right (of the picture) to jack the back up - tilting it in the other plane as well - an hopefully resulting in the remaining three wheels hanging free, and, if I'm lucky, sitting stable on the first three... I won't be discouraged if it doesn't initially - I mean I can always work out something further back to prop it up - but I expect all the work I have planned for the front will hopefully weigh it down appropriately.

The end aim? The vehicle should look like it is landing, at an angle, front first - turning as it lands. Should be "ramshackle" enough for Artsoldier35 methinks

You may notice that I have cut off the top of the engine (the air intake?) - never fear - I have *a cunning plan* for that...

This is looking sooooooooooooo sweet! I can't wait to see more! What width tubes are you using for the trukk?

Dont you mean "A cunning plan?"

@The Good Green: 4mm (diameter) for the outside, 2mm inside, with a 1mm hole for copper rod. The "springs" are 0.8mm wound tight over plastic glue. Had some fun with that - the right (smaller) spring was my first attempt. (Previously I have used guitar wire and "lead" wire - but hey, I like trying different things - not sure which I prefer yet though...)

@Miss Dee: Fixed

Set a dangerous precedent Tuesday night - no painting, all modelling. I blame... laundry. Anyways, back to normal last night:



The right pair are one highlight away from finished (green that is, highlighting that is - the left is two - can you tell the difference?) I don't know how everyone manages to paint marines so fast...

How does it look? Looks a bit Tron like to me so far. Would a green or black wash at the end be recommended?

On a modelling note - don't use plasticard rod for shock springs - use wire. Even paperclips. Trust me on that!

Yeah, they do look a bit Tron-like now that you mention it. Kind of hard to tell as the contrast between the dark figures and the reflection off the table is so extreme, but they look fine to me. The one on the right pops a bit more than the left, so yeah, you can see the difference. And for the record... I DONT paint marines quickly.

I made some good progress on your bug boy over the last few days... maybe one more session of painting and I'll have something worth posting.

@Gitsplitta: Yeah - not a good photo. The iPhone and lamp are fine for modelling, but I may have to try harder with taking pictures of the actual painting! I am both excited and hesitant to see where my bug boy is at - hesitant for when I find out how far along you consider "post-worthy" (and hence how far behind I am...)

@Everyone:

Bad news - no painting tonight (sorry Gitsplitta!). Good news - finally got the Trukk chassis where I wanted it:


I've had to prop up the back wheel in the photos as the balance, as I indicated previously it might, is a bit off at the moment. I'm not sure I am actually going to be able to model enough weight on the front right corner to have it balance naturally - worse case I'll put something underneath the back left to support it (another dead marine perhaps? )

I'm learning quite a bit on this, so the twin (which I haven't even started!) will have some "improvements". At this stage, that will include narrower back wheel guards (so that the top of the back shocks is on the lower floor, as well as looking a bit better I think...) and metal front shock absorber springs. I'll also know the measurements for everything - which should hopefully make it a bit quicker too... Time will tell whether I should have jacked the back up higher or not...

Currently the wheels are not glued on - and they seem to do a fine job of staying on, even without magnets. I'm starting to think the fun I had magnetising my previous Trukk wheels was all for nought...

With "Armour Plates":


Part I of why you should use wire for springs, not plasticard rod (Part II is that its time consuming, frustrating and fiddly for worse results...):


Something softer than a paperclip (copper wire?) would be even better... (I'm so impatient!)

Enjoy!

Why not just use springs? You can get a big box of em at the dollar store.

Because that would be too easy? Actually, getting to a dollar store (or pound store over here...) isn't as easy for me as you might think - it would be easier for me to have it delivered - but that would negate the cheapness... (I work in the middle of nowhere during the week, and da Boss monopolises my time on the weekends - she doesn't get to see me during the week - the joys of living in Scotland and working in England...)

I will, however, keep my eye out - as it were... both on and off line

(I hadn't given it any thought previously. It's a good idea. I knew there was a reason I take the trouble to post these things here!)

If I make it to the pound store () before I get the Looted Dread done I'll snag some for ya. I stretch springs out to make the wire lookin stuff for basing.

Thanks! Where were you 20 pages ago?

Being sour about my DA being mocked, before later realizing they weren't being mocked.

Would they have looked less mocked with fancy springs?

I have evolved from the narrow minded DA player to become a open minded DA/BA/Soul Drinkers player

Trukk coming along nicely there, I'd suggest floral wire - sometimes sold as bonsai wire - for the springs, nicely malleable.

And what's wrong with the tron look - can you whip up a couple of lightcycles for the boyz next?

hur hur hur. Silly mekboy, putting springs on the wheels. With themz springs, howz we to get the full bumpiness an exitement of ridin da trukk to da front linez!

Anyway, barring the silliness I feel toward shock absorbers on orky trukks (Ciaphas Cain put it quick aptly once), the trukk's coming along quite nicely so far. In the words of our most esteemed Lord Kaesar II, keep it up!

To go along with Lord Kaesar, if Orks actually thought about using spings for shocks, I think they would be just as ramshackled and broken down as the rest of the vehicle. I like the look of the worn out plastic springs. The rest of the build is coming along great. Don't worry too much about the elevation of the back as i may just build it a nice fancy display base to pin it to. Again...looking great!

@monkeytroll: Adding "floral" wire to my list of things to look out for... Nothing wrong with the Tron look - just trying to follow GW painting instructions. I look at theirs and see SM, lok at mine and see Tron - and try to work out what (if anything) went wrong... Thankfully Lightcycles don't really go with my theme - so your attempt to distract me further from painting (while your blog moves along in leaps and bounds) is unsuccessful Of course, if I were to do it, it would probably require looted Tau parts... which would no doubt amuse my regular Tau opponent no end Maybe add it to my list of potential Great Marine Swaps

@Lord Kaesar II, Artsoldier35: I don't know *why* it seems silly - I mean - you don't expect them to actually function as intended do you Orks are all about style over substance - well, for an Orky definition of style anyway... I'm sure its just as bumpy, if not more so

@Artsoldier35: Well, I hope you mean the front ones - as all the rear ones are now metal - not that you can see them easily... I still have the plastic rear ones, so its still a possibility for the "twin". I had given thought this morning to adding a flying stand to support it. I can always leave it bare for you - or just leave the hole. Its still early days at this point. Obviously this was the picture I should have shown you first - the excitement level in your posts appears to have dropped!

What? Don' think that. I'm totally stoked about this project. I just don't want to get on here and sound like a fanboy everytime. I truly believe that I'm getting the better end of this deal!

Just remember - it's (gonna be) a marathon, not a sprint! Plan accordingly

Lol you don't drop in a few days (budget meetings - gotta love'em) and Arakasi is building a trukk with a working suspension; do the wheels turn if you mess around with the steering wheel as well?

I really like the look of a trukk, and if balance is an issue, try to get hold of some lead fishing weights; they're small, heavy, and can be hammered into a different shape - perfect for filling the hollow bits of the wheel.

Marathon is good as it will take me a good long time to get those bikes painted.

Speaking of the bikes....you asked for some size comparisons. Here are the two bikes with a Standard Ork trukk right out of the box.





At this time the Chopper is removable from the base.

Lol, that Chopper is HUGE! Still the coolest ork chopper Ive ever seen.

@CommissarKhaine: There's an easy solution to that But no, neither the suspension or the steering works. In fact - there is no steering mechanism in place yet! Which reminds me, I removed the steering bar - I still need to determine whether or if I can put that back, create something new, or just have it work on Ork power! I'll keep the fishing weights idea in mind - thanks!

I am starting to feel that I may have reached my limits with the Ork Trukk kit after this though. I now have dangerous visions of scratch-building in the future... (I believe this occurs when the kit starts getting in the way more than helping...)

@Artsoldier35: Thanks for the comparison pics - they are a lot larger than I had envisioned! Must put equivalent (or more!) effort into Trukk!

@whalemusic360: And most likely the coolest you will see in this blog! I don't think I could bring myself to make one that large, let alone top it!

The only thing about it I'm not happy with is the main gun. Kind of plain. Oh well, I'm really ahppy with the Front forks which are made from Q-tip stems and paint brush protectors.

OCC Ork county Chopperz

OHSNAP!

Conversational hand grenade! Run!

Quick! Smother it with WIP pictures!

Stomboyz Nob 1 skin almost done...


And Stormboyz Nob 2...


Da Big Mek decides to get in on the skin action (if you remember, I was unhappy with my first attempt, and the green wash - so here it is redone as per the Stormboyz Nobz)


My first Trukk driver checks the new wheelz for leg room - comfy!

WOW! All of them look spectacular. Especially the Big Mek. Really liking how the Trukk is coming along too.

wow man they are looking fantastic, i love the way you have positioned your trucks they look sweet...

jim..

That big mek is scarily close to how mine was originally planned.

Looking SWEET Arakasi!

Nothing to see here! Move along!


Oh, okay. DA Green highlighting is complete - and looks better for it. The last layer of Rotting Flesh really took away whatever problem I had with it... Metal on the Rokkit Pack has been done and given a Badab Black wash to dull it down (a little). I may come back to it (Devlan Mud, Chainmail highlights), but for now I needed to do the neat fiddly bits in and around the green before starting on the White - which you can see has begun (that would be the Calthan Brown areas at the moment...) More painting than modelling this week (sorry Artsoldier35!) - I actually got into some rhythm, which is unusual and must be taken advantage of (though the metal work almost killed it). That and I missed two nights of painting last week...

Da Dark Angelz are headed home with me to Scotland this weekend for another tussle or two with El Quixo - battle reports sure to follow (in time...)

Artsoldier35 wrote:The only thing about it I'm not happy with is the main gun. Kind of plain. Oh well, I'm really ahppy with the Front forks which are made from Q-tip stems and paint brush protectors.

It looks excellent. Always have to battle the twin horrors of never finishing or adding too much!

HadoukenAvenger wrote:That big mek is scarily close to how mine was originally planned.

I started the Big Mek a long time ago. I don't remember you claiming the idea



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Oh - and thanks to everyone else for their comments! All good for keeping the motivation high!

Sweet!

No worries as I have a backlog of painting also. I know how you feel.

Those look great Arakasi! Wish I had the nerve to post what I've done but I have this weird way of painting orks where they pretty much look like heck, and then a miracle happens & they look fine... I'll get back to it after tomorrow's tournament (and all the painting I'm having to do for that).

Love the skin. Very nice.

Great work, looking foward to seeing some of those guys tomorrow!

wow amazing makes me wanna paint my orks btw the sead marines ave no backpacks (i assume some grubby fisted deathskulls ran of with em)

@Gitsplitta: I decided a long time ago to just post stuff up regardless If I waited until anything "looked fine" I'd only be making a post a month Also, this way, I can take on suggestions before I'm too committed...

@troy_tempest: Great game, will write up the battle report at some point...

@moonshine: Dislodged by the Power Klaw coming out the back I feel its easy enough to consider them "off to the side" or "borrowed" (though this doesn't really suit the story of the piece). They were removed because otherwise the Marine just takes up too much space! (See my Big Mek for a Marine corpse with (partial) backpack...)

@Everyone: Thanks for the continued support! I am progressing with the "white". Might even manage a pic for tonight/tomorrow...



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WIP - Stormboyz Nob 1


WIP - Stormboyz Nob 2


Right - these are both at the same "stage" - but I did the last layer (bleached bone) on Nob 2 first, and was a bit heavy handed. Still to do a final white highlight on both. I think Nob 1 looks better (currently), but Nob 2 is closer to the colour I am going for. Thoughts oh loyal reader? I think I may need to do a white glaze or two to bring the colour up.. (on both).

While you are considering your thoughts to the above, here are two more to ponder:

1) The Dark Angels symbol on the Banner Pole - I've painted it green, but I am wondering whether it should be white, or possibly red. It doesn't actually appear to ever be green in a Dark Angels force. However, it does not draw the eye in its current form, which is good - as it is not the focus...

2) The Banner Pole pennants - what colour/design to do? At the moment I'm considering parchment coloured with dark brown/black glyphs, red with white glyphs or even green with white glyphs... each has their merits (and pitfalls)

Enjoy!

I think you should use a three-point spot colour of red.
Maybe one on the sword of the dark angels banner symbol thingo, oneon a shoulder pad or preferably at his mid-section and maybe another on the space marine, on a shoulder pad or maybe as freshly-spilled blood.

Thats all I can think of.

The Power Klaws, Sluggas, Bolt Pistol and Plasma Pistol were going to be my main red spot colour - does that change your opinion?

Oh - also the skull plate on Nob 1's chest and the ammo on Nob 2's.

And a small sliver of blood from the Marines mouths, and maybe around the Power Klaw entry point (darker)

With that much red drawing your eyes down the model, maybe you should go with red banners to even the model out a bit. I think it would be a bit bottom heavy otherwise.

True. I guess I'll know more when I actually do the red Still, that is waiting on finishing the bodies, which is waiting on finishing the white... but I'm in no hurry to do the pennants, so I guess we'll wait and see

After two nights of solid painting, tonight (and tomorrow) are modeling nights!

WOOOHOOO! MODELLING NIGHTS! YES! (sorry, was that my outloud voice)

Modeling night. So I decided to start on my lifetime dream of painstakingly converting all of my AOBR Space Marines. All projects are on hold while I complete this project. Don't worry, I should be back to Da Dark Angelz in a year or two...

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Kidding!


While you have probably noticed the addition of the cab framework and boarding plank (removable, magnetised, of course!) - the bit that has improved the most for me was cutting the excess off the sides of the tray. Not sure if it's even noticeable in the pics, but this one small change improved my outlook from dissapointed to happy. Funny huh?

Not sure what you're referring to but the Trukk looks awesome! I'm enjoying seeing it develop.

There is a pic further up (with my Ork driver checking it out) - if you look above the middle wheel you will see the extrusion where the boarding blank normally goes. In the above pic its nice and straight and in line with the wheel guard. Can't really do more without modifying the pics to highlight it

I'm glad you enjoy seeing it develop - its sort of the point, that and allowing time for comments and suggestions - but it is hard sometimes too - knowing that the early stages at best *hint* at the final result. But then - even I don't know how it will end up *exactly*

AHA! I see it now and you're right! Looks better than having those little protrusions. I think that's the amazing part, that you kind of make it up as you go. I think that's how a true mek would work also.

Final WIP pic for this week (my other Trukk boyz are already envious and scoping out the new ride...)


Most of the main structure is now in place. Just tons (tonnes?) of detail work to do...

That gunner sitting so high is awesome!

Not checked in for a while but it is looking niccce. Shame the same can't be said about my Fists...I really should get them started with a P and M blog...

PM me, and next time your up maybe we can sneak a game in

Imp. Monkey

Looking good, the high-up gunner adds a bit of humvee to the truck, which can only be a good thing .

What will you be using for the front grille? That seems like a key part of the truck.

Also, have you considered adding small symbol on front to represent the 'car brand' (like GM or BMW or Mercedes)?

Coming along nicely there, I concur the little seemingly little act of removing the boarding plank extrusions makes a big difference, and like the good Commissar above I'm interested in what your plans are for the front of the trukk - the grill and bonnet area. Planning on having an intake coming out of the bonnet or keeping it plain? I'll make no comment on the paint on the nobs as my tired little brain just wants to look at shapes, not interested in colours right now

@Artsoldier35: It is all a delicate balance The cab roof is about the height of the plain Trukk roll bars - so he sits higher than the plain Trukk (and much higher than his normal position) - all for better fields of fire. However, the angle of the Trukk lowers him, so that he is pretty much in line with the top of the boarding plank on the other side. I also haven't built up (and won't) the Wrecking Ball mount here - as the Wrecking Ball will be going tow Trukk style at the back (see The Good Green's blog if you can't picture it)

@Imperial Monkey: What is it with people not checking in for a while? You guys don't have lives or something do you? Well - you should have plenty of time to get your Fists started - I doubt I'll be able to arrange anything before I fly out to Oz for November - so you have until December at least! On the downside, it does mean Da Dark Angelz and GMS projects will be on hold for a month. On the upside, Da Boss has given me permission to bring Da Dark Angelz - so there may be a battle report or two against my brother's Eldar and Nidz and his friend's Space Wolves...

@CommissarKhaine: Part of my design goal, other than looking awesome, was that it should fit in nicely with Artsoldier35's existing humvee - without looking anything like it There is an awful lot planned for the front - though it may change during implementation. The key challenge is that the hood, representing Armour Plates, is removable - and so the end result needs to look good with and without it. (Of course, Artsoldier35 may choose to leave it on or off depending on which he prefers, rather than necessarily tying it to Armour Plates). The key parts (as I see it) are the following:

1) The engine - I will be extending this upwards, through the hood, hot rod style.
2) Front grille/radiator - Will probably be more square/rectangular than the default (more Truck like?). I will be building up the front of the hood to border it, so that it looks more like a single piece. At this point I'm thinking of using a similar method to Artsoldier35's humvee - using the other boarding plank....
3) Roo/Bull bar - for Reinforced Ram - removable of course

I hadn't considered adding a small symbol to the front (but will now be keeping it in mind - thanks!) Artsoldier35 has requested a "numba plate" - so that will be going on. I had considered a large bull like skull on the front however - possibly using the Warbiker skull front - but it will depend on room mostly. Hmmm... maybe I have just found a use for my Dark Angels angel bits! They would probably fit perfectly as hood ornaments! (And tie in appropriately!)

All excellent ideas. i like the Wrecking ball in back ala The Good green. Tow trukk style is awesome. Now that its been mentioned, the whole tie in to the Humma is working more and more and I will definitely be keeping the extra armor covers for the engine. I didn't realize you had incorporated so many of the Humma designs into your idea but I think it rocks that you did. The build is coming along great and I love your work.

Arakasi wrote:
@CommissarKhaine: Part of my design goal, other than looking awesome, was that it should fit in nicely with Artsoldier35's existing humvee - without looking anything like it There is an awful lot planned for the front - though it may change during implementation. The key challenge is that the hood, representing Armour Plates, is removable - and so the end result needs to look good with and without it. (Of course, Artsoldier35 may choose to leave it on or off depending on which he prefers, rather than necessarily tying it to Armour Plates). The key parts (as I see it) are the following:

1) The engine - I will be extending this upwards, through the hood, hot rod style.
2) Front grille/radiator - Will probably be more square/rectangular than the default (more Truck like?). I will be building up the front of the hood to border it, so that it looks more like a single piece. At this point I'm thinking of using a similar method to Artsoldier35's humvee - using the other boarding plank....
3) Roo/Bull bar - for Reinforced Ram - removable of course

I hadn't considered adding a small symbol to the front (but will now be keeping it in mind - thanks!) Artsoldier35 has requested a "numba plate" - so that will be going on. I had considered a large bull like skull on the front however - possibly using the Warbiker skull front - but it will depend on room mostly. Hmmm... maybe I have just found a use for my Dark Angels angel bits! They would probably fit perfectly as hood ornaments! (And tie in appropriately!)

Interesting; I think this trukk will really show how much a custom job can bring a model to life. West Ork Kustoms!

As for the symbol: the DA bitz really sound like the thing you'd need. You should add an icon, on top of the hood, jaguar style . As for a frontal skull: the ogre bulls kit had a nice skull as well, which is a bit larger then the bike bit. Whether this is beet depends on the rest of the build of course. Nice work, keep it up!



1) Sounds cool

@monkeytroll: Was writing my previous post at the same time you posted yours - so not ignoring you! Hopefully my last post covered most of it, but specifically - yes - the intake will be coming out through a hole in the bonnet (Already started work on - but not in the WIP pic below yet...)

@Artsoldier35: The Humma designs I've used are just the general boxy shape, and now the front grill. Anything else is coincidental. Glad you are liking it - and I'm pretty sure it will only get better from here on in!

@CommissarKhaine: Welcome back! Yes - the Dark Angels Ravenwing Landspeeder statuette looks like it will be perfect. The only downside - I only have one (and I think that's thanks to Lennysmash). I've ordered two more via a bitz site so I have one for the twin... I'm starting to think I won't have room for the horns now though...

Now - what you have actually been waiting for - pics!

WIP Artsoldier35's Trukk (Great Marine Swap)


Decided to start on the front - still lots more to go. Intake (not pictured) is started, hood ornament has been found. And yes - the armour plates are still removable. (Actually, the grill is removable currently too - but that will just be for ease of painting the engine...) Have to work out how the bull bar will attach, with and without the armour plates.

WIP Gitsplitta's Stormboyz Nob (Great Marine Swap)


White added. Not perfect, could use a wash or two - but I think I'll fill in the scratch and chipping detail first.

WIP Arakasi's Stormboyz Nob


Ditto above

Looking good Arakasi! I've been quietly working on yours as well. Mostly done now though still a lot of detail to add. Will post a pic this evening.

Gits

Which means its further along than mine, even though I started first Still - I look forward to seeing it!

The only problem is in order to use the boarding plank, everyone has to clamber over the driver

Other than that, it looks pretty cool. Planning on making some front windows or anything? I can really see a couple of fold down steel framed windows (like the old army jeep windows) on this machine.

The painting on the wingman (is he Maverik or Goose? )is looking cool as well. Nice one

They can clamber from the tray, the top and the front wheel guard. Probably safer too - especially if the driver is armed Of course, that is assuming that he doesn't just ride on the boarding plank - he can hold onto the cab until he's ready to drop! (a bit like Trukk 1 - not that I have any plans for this here...)

I'm thinking of doing a criss crossed beams across the gunner side - give it a real Mad Max look - or at least that's what I tell myself...

Thanks! As always - it'll look better when it's done!

You know Arakasi.... if you put the driver on the correct side of the vehicle... you wouldn't have a problem with da boyz stopin' on da driver to git to da plank!

*grin*

You do know I already have two Trukks with drivers on the other side right? Driver side is determined by which side of the hammock the Big Mek fell out of that morning

In this case, knowing that the gunner would be higher up, I wanted him on the lower side. Also - there isn't that much more space for an Ork to hang out under the gunner. The angle of the boarding plank here keeps it up with gravity too - look grot! no hands!

I stand by my original explanations

I'll send some of those hood ornaments along with your dread (which got its first base coat last night).

Thanks! Am I right in assuming the hood ornament is only available as part of the Ravenwing Bike Squadron?

Looking forward to seeing progress on the Dread!

You are correct sir. I've got 3 spares that are all yours. Need any other DA bits?
Sorry progress slowed, I'm trying to get mass modeling and priming done with the impending snow just around the corner.

Awesome (the 3 spares that are all mine, not the revelation that they are in the Ravenwing Bike Squadron!)

I won't say no to DA bits - but I have no other specific requirements at this time. In fact, I don't actually require (at the moment) your 3 spares. But as I said - I won't say no!

You wait - I'll still be finishing Gitsplitta's Stormboyz Nob when you've finished that Dread! There really is no hurry - take your time.

Arakasi wrote:Which means its further along than mine, even though I started first Still - I look forward to seeing it!

Perhaps, but unlike you I don't seem to be able to work on multiple models at the same time... so I have to stick with my current project until it's completed. No rush for you though... it's just the way I work. I hope you like it. It did present some quandaries when it came to painting, but I think it's working out OK. Sort of like the build actually... things just started falling into place.

Here, Arakasi. Take the backpack ornamentation from the DA sprue and use them on your vehicles, methinks a Dread or Kan squad adorned in a rather OT way would look good!

Like a giant Orkified DA gliff on the front of a dread?

Yeh, much like yours, although I really meant the ones on small podiums, you know, that look like car hood ornaments...OH, that would look good on a couple of trucks!!

I think I know which ones you mean - and yes - I think I will find a use for them in the future

OK, here we go.

Here is my progress on Arakasi's "Bug Boy" nob to date. Basic paint work is looking pretty done (base excepted of course). Have a lot of free-hand detail to add, as well as weathering and damage to the "looted" marine armor. If you look carefully I did add one gouge on the left leg and one on the left shoulder pad. They're OK... not great. Need to get better at this and get some ideas for technique. I know Migs and grey_death have done some fantastic work with chipping and wear on their marines... need to spend some time eyeballing their work for clues. Anybody have any suggestions I'm all ears.

You'll note that the blending on the orkified marine armor is actually better than any of the blending on my actual marines... LOL... typical. Actually I tried a new technique (for me) with the blending and it seems to have worked pretty well, so as with most of these projects... when you push yourself beyond your normal comfort zone... you usually end up learnin' something useful!

Gits

o.0 give me an idea for my grokamorka trukk. That trukk if killer. Art you lucky devil.

@Gitsplitta: Looking great! I *knew* you would be further along than me! Your yellow is amazing - and it looks like you nailed the hazard stripes too. The details you have done are looking awesome as well. I'm currently using the chipping technique in a recent-ish WD (painting the new boar boyz) - but I've see other use/suggest sponging it on. Unfortunately thats probably about the limit of help I can provide until I get last night's WIP pics up (the weathering and damage on the wingz are done - but you won't see a pic before I get "home"). The skin looks dull in comparison - but then, having followed your recent Big Mek - I understand that is just your style (no need to change!) One thing that I used to worry about (that may be an issue in the pic but not IRL) - the green of the Marine armour is very close to the green of the Ork skin. I might lean towards darkening it - but the weathering and damage may provide enough distinction by itself. Your call. Glad you are learning something useful. (I know I am)

@schank23: Glad to help! Lucky for you - you are on my GMS list. I'm conflicted about approaching others because my queue is now eight, but if you wait until my queue comes down, well it may never!

Trukk now has the mount points for the Reinforced Ram and the start of the Hot Rod Engine and intake - enough so that I've made a preliminary cut for it in the bonnet/hood. Its funny - I have known for some time now how I want to detail the bonnet/hood, but I can't make a start on it until all of the other pieces it needs to interact with are complete - and they are all much more play by ear.. I'll try to get a pic up this evening before I continue

@ Git: That bug is starting to look real good. I still like the wings. They definitely make it look like a big insect.

@ Schank: yes, I am lucky. I won't deny it.

Looking forward to the update pics Arakasi.

Arakasi wrote:@Gitsplitta: Looking great! I *knew* you would be further along than me! Your yellow is amazing - and it looks like you nailed the hazard stripes too. The details you have done are looking awesome as well. I'm currently using the chipping technique in a recent-ish WD (painting the new boar boyz) - but I've see other use/suggest sponging it on. Unfortunately thats probably about the limit of help I can provide until I get last night's WIP pics up (the weathering and damage on the wingz are done - but you won't see a pic before I get "home"). The skin looks dull in comparison - but then, having followed your recent Big Mek - I understand that is just your style (no need to change!) One thing that I used to worry about (that may be an issue in the pic but not IRL) - the green of the Marine armour is very close to the green of the Ork skin. I might lean towards darkening it - but the weathering and damage may provide enough distinction by itself. Your call. Glad you are learning something useful. (I know I am)

The figure is actually more vibrant than the photo... when I get done adjusting the contrast and lighting it tends to crank up the colors, so I have to decrease the saturation to compensate. Might have done a little too much in this case. I'm really scratching my head over the skin. I haven't changed my technique for painting ork skin since I started, yet the recent results seem to be generally viewed as unsatisfying... and I have no idea why. The advantage here is that this is YOUR ork, so unlike my Mek it does not need to be consistent with 100 other painted orks. I'll experiment a bit with some subtle highlighting of the skin & see if that makes it pop a bit better. Your right about the skin/plate similarity. I actually did not wash this ork's skin with dilute green like I usually would in order to keep some color separation between the two shades, it's just washed with sepia. I can try darkening the plates... but the blending job just worked so well I'm afraid I'll screw it up if I mess with it. I'll start with some skin highlights & see how that does before I mess with the armor.

I'll see if I can find a sponge or perhaps some packing foam & practice on something non-critical... thanks!

Gotta love the freedom of an Ork army this is brilliant I can't wait to see it finished and painted.

Made some decent progress on your nob tonight Arakasi. Added some subtle highlights to the skin which I think will help to differentiate it from the MW armor pieces. Added Bad Moon decorations to various places, finished the eye, did some random highlighting, etc. Tomorrow I tackle the chipping and weathering... then the base.

Wish me luck... tomorrow could make or break the figure.

Artsoldier35 wrote:@ Schank: yes, I am lucky. I won't deny it.

Actually - that goes for me too - just look what I'm getting in return!

@Santobell: Neither can I, neither can I. Lately I seem to have been somewhat distracted from the main army by Great Marine Swaps... Nice to have you on board!

@Gitsplitta: Cool. Luck - though I'm sure you won't need it, and you can always repaint it

Right - pics from yesterday...

Artsoldier35's GMS Trukk


Gitsplitta's GMS Stormboyz Nob


Arakasi's Stormboyz Nob


Now I must get to bed - been up *way* too late (or is that too early?) working on Artsoldier35's GMS Trukk (after starting on the DA Green on the Stormboyz Nobz). Prepare to be in awe - da Big Mek had some inspiration - once I get up and upload tonight's (this morning's?) pics...

Those weathered and beat up wings are awesome!

Update as promised... First the pics!

Artsoldier35's Trukk - Side Profile - WIP


Artsoldier35's Trukk - Front Profile - WIP


Artsoldier35's Trukk - Front Profile (minus Armour Plates) - WIP


Artsoldier35's Trukk - Front Profile (minus Armour Plates and Reinforced Ram) - WIP


Gitsplitta's Stormboyz Nob


My Stormboyz Nob


Stormboyz are easiest - so I'll start there. Badab black wash on the metal parts on the wingz and we are getting very close to finishing the Rokkit packs - main items left are the pennants and the exhausts, and then probably some minor washes and highlighting for additional weathering. The Nobz themselves have their first coat of DA Green. The end is getting closer - I can almost smell it! Hopefully I can get these guys complete (and Gitsplitta's sent off) before my holiday in Oz...

Trukk. Well, I got a bit carried away and stayed up way too late, but got the bulk of the Reinforced Ram and Engine in place. In a spot of Big Mek inspiration, both have been created/improved with Deffkopta parts I hope you find them as cool as I do!

The Reinforced Ram could probably use some "teeth" (as well as some battle damage - but that's a given) - but otherwise I'm very happy with it. Using the Deffkopta blades as the bars - well I don't know how I came up with it, but it just works! (The benefits of having a real life picture to work from, and lots of bitz.) It slides in and out for easy removal.

You will note from my previous image, the Engine has changed somewhat. Originally I was going to build the entire top myself - and what you originally saw was the start of my oversized intake and the engine piece beneath it. Then I noticed the Deffkopta engine I had laying around (after the Avatar Scorpion) seemed to be the right shape, so put that in instead. I had to cut the bar across the top to slide it in though (I was originally going to build around it). Placing my intake on top looked too oversized - and then I noticed the original intake I had taken off previously - and well it just seemed a perfect fit. It also had the advantage of not needing the hole in the hood to be made wider There is still more detail work to do - the most pressing being filling the area between the engine and the radiator/grille with an oversized fan assembly, probably followed by exhaust work - assuming I can find room for it. Once that's done - I can probably safely make a start on the hood detailing - but it already is really starting to look as I had pictured it in my mind.

Then I only need to finish the cab and the back... and make the twin - which has been upgraded from a maybe to a definitely

Enjoy!

Your work is so amazing and I am stoked that I talked you into this trade. I could never, EVER make a Trukk like this one and I would probably pay upwards of $50+ for it on ebay easy! The fact that I have something you like to trade for it lows my mind. I love the Reinforced Ram and the Deffkopta bitz are perfect much like the ones I used on the trike. They just seem to fit. I did notice the change to the engine and the one you've built is ace. Again you are correct when you say that I could field it in any configuration and it would look cool. All the pics are stunning.