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 NydusTemplar wrote:
Was wondering where on this forum I might (when I'm a bit happier with it) post my homebrew Sisters codex. Seems the thread to find out.

That'd be the Proposed Rules section, sir.

 curran12 wrote:

 NydusTemplar wrote:
Was wondering where on this forum I might (when I'm a bit happier with it) post my homebrew Sisters codex. Seems the thread to find out.

That'd be the Proposed Rules section, sir.

Thank you kindly. I'll post a link in here so the discussion can happen there.

 SisterSydney wrote:
Someone should write up Pradexes for 6th. We haven't had her since, what, the 1990s?

This is my 6th Edition take on her:

HQ: Saint Praxedes of Ophelia VII Unit: Points Per Models Unit Type WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv Saint Praxedes 125 1* Infantry (Character) 6 7 4 3 3 6 4 10 2+/6++ Wargear: Special Rules: Boltgun Acts of Faith Melta Bombs Sacred Rites Frag Grenades Independent Character Krak Grenades Fearless Sceptre of Vengeance Shield of Faith Power Armor Irresistible Charge Cloak of St. Aspira Inspirational Leader Purity Seals Cloak of St. Aspira: The Cloak of St. Aspira increases the wearer's Armour Save characteristic by +1 (already included in the model's profile). Purity Seals: Purity Seals confers the wearer and any unit they are attached to the Fearless special rule. In addition, Purity Seals allow the wearer and any unit they are attached to to pass their Deny the Witch rolls on a 4+. Sceptre of Vengeance: The Sceptre of Vengeance is a power mace with the following profile: Weapon: Range Str. AP Type Sceptre of Vengeance - User+3 2 Melee, Armourbane, Unwieldy, Concussive Sacred Rites: St. Praxedes adds +2 to her or any unit she is attached to Act of Faith roll instead of the usual +1. Irresistible Charge: On a player turn in which St. Praxedes assaults, at the beginning of the Fight sub-phase prior to the Initiative 10 step, choose one enemy model locked in the same combat as or in a challenge with St. Praxedes and roll a D6. On the result of a 1, nothing happens. On a result of 2+ add her Strength. If the total is greater than the Strength of her opponent, her opponent immediately is reduced to Initiative 1 until the end of the following Assault phase. Inspirational Leader: Any Sisters of Battle unit within 12" of St. Praxedes may add +1 to their Leadership characteristic for any Morale or Pinning tests. As long as St. Praxedes is locked in close combat, any Sisters of Battle unit within 12" of St. Praxedes may instead use her Leadership characteristic of 10 for any Morale or Pinning tests. Additionally, on a player turn in which St. Praxedes assaults, she and all models in her unit add +1 to their Weapon Skill characteristic until the end of that phase (even for disordered charges).

Wow, that took a couple hours, referencing C:SoB 2nd Edition, BRB 2nd Edition, C: SoB 5th Edition, and BRB 6th Edition. Aside from some language clean up, and preferred word choice of GW's, I think it came out nicely. I did have to tweak the Sceptre and Irresistible Charge a bit to make them work better with the fluff of the mace itself and 6th Edition assaults/challenges.

Nevermind, posted wrong

 Evil Lamp 6 wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
Someone should write up Pradexes for 6th. We haven't had her since, what, the 1990s?

This is my 6th Edition take on her.....

Nice work. Post her over in Proposed Rules requesting comment (and put a link here) so we can discuss her in depth while keeping this thread on-topic for the Tactics forum.

 SisterSydney wrote:

 Evil Lamp 6 wrote:

 SisterSydney wrote:
Someone should write up Pradexes for 6th. We haven't had her since, what, the 1990s?

This is my 6th Edition take on her.....

Nice work. Post her over in Proposed Rules requesting comment (and put a link here) so we can discuss her in depth while keeping this thread on-topic for the Tactics forum.

Done. Link.

Yes, we do need more characters that aren't weird old men. Once I get a chance I'll take a look at the 40k scene here in Japan and let you know how the sisters are doing here.

So this in from News and Rumors...



Warlord traits? Rrrrreeeeallllllly now?

Hopefully more than just Warlord Traits.

 curran12 wrote:
So this in from News and Rumors...



Warlord traits? Rrrrreeeeallllllly now?

Well I feel clever. I was hoping they'd update the rules a bit for 6th.

Warlord traits! Woohoo! Can't wait to see which fixed ones the SC get as well. That could be a big deal.

It really boils down to what does 'updated for 6th edition' means.

Assuming this is all legit:

Warlord traits are in, which is quite nice.

I'd imagine an updated allies matrix as well, given the updates and confusion with the SM codex.

Probably a lot of wording updates for rules, with relatively little changed in the way of mechanics (like Seraphim getting that gunslinger rule and so on).

I'd say a stretch would be borrowing some AA elements, either one of the SM AA tanks, or maybe giving the Exorcist some AA option.

I really doubt you will see anything like that.

I think that the realistic scenario is this:
- Warlord Traits
- Updates to SC to assign specific warlord traits
- Corrects to typos
- Additional artwork / painted models

Adding new units or giving new options is reaaaaallly unlikely.

Please prove me wrong, GW.

 pretre wrote:
I really doubt you will see anything like that.

I think that the realistic scenario is this:
- Warlord Traits
- Updates to SC to assign specific warlord traits
- Corrects to typos
- Additional artwork / painted models

Adding new units or giving new options is reaaaaallly unlikely.

Please prove me wrong, GW.

I've got my fingers crossed for 10 point Battle Sisters!

That would be super hot.

I wait with bated breath, and hope if is something worthwhile, released both as i-format and generic, with a Hardback to come.

If not I'll have work to do.

Bated.

Any news is good news, we'll see what happens

So stoked for new Codex... and I literally just bought another pair of WD's for $30 shipped on eBay... unrelated note, played two games this weekend, both against IG:

First game, 2k, played one of the Nova missions using table corners, 4 objectives and kill points.

His list:
HQ Commissars x 2
Elites:
2x Priests
Troops:
2x Vet squads in valks
2x platoons full of lascannons and autocannons

Heavy:
Deathstrike missle
2x manticores

Firestorm Redoubt

I ran:
HQ
Celestine
Jacobus

Elites:
Repentia x 4 + Sister of Repentance

Troops
BSS in Rhino x 2
BSS on foot

Fast attack
Seraphim x 6 w/HF (w/Celestine)
2x Dom Squad x 5 in HF Immolator w/ Melta guns

Heavy
3x Exorcists

Allied GK
Coteaz + 3x Jokaeros, 2x crusaders, 2x HB servitors

ADL w/ Quad Gun


Game went as such: He castled up behind the terrain in a far corner and proceeded to shoot, then moved a blob forward counting on his priest causing rerolls in CC to chew through the sisters. I outflanked one Dom squad to pop one Manticore, and scouted one forward to draw fire. The seraphim and repentia moved up one flank behind the rhinos with Jacobus and Celestine. The remaining BSS held one table quarter while Coteaz and Co hung out with the ADL. We shot back and forth for a couple turns, he killed both rhinos, the seraphim and Celestine (1st time). Ended up in CC between his forward blob squad and the remains of one BSS, while the surviving repentia moved around the middle terrain for fun. Both Valks came on around turn three/four to drop squads off, one on his second Obj and one midfield. My exorcists popped both while in hover mode, while the sisters mulched the midfield squad and Celestine resurrected to burninate/assault the backfield obj. My repentia were all killed, and my dismounted BSS holding my second backfield Obj ran off, fortunately Coteaz & company ran towards it, my lone sister from one of the mounted sister squads survived after multiple rounds of CC (with a little help from Jacobus and the mistress), linked up with Celestine and made it to his second backfield obj, while the remnants of my second mounted BSS moved towards my first backfield Obj. Ended up I had three objectives (barely) to his one, three table quarters, line breaker and kill points.

Game two was 1k against a different buddy and his guard list.

We rolled for mission, it Emperor's something, so one objective for each of us. He ran:

HQ
Commissar
CO command squad

Troops:
2x platoons w/lascannons and autocannons (3 of each total)
Master of Ordinance

Heavy
Basilisk
Manticore
ADL no gun


I had:

HQ
Celestine

Troops:
BSS in Rhino x 2

Fast:
Doms x 5 in HF Immolater

Heavy
2x Exorcists

ADL w/Quad Gun, running automated for fun

He started off castling up everything behind his ADL (no weapon system).

I ran Celestine up the board and killed both the manticore and Basilisk with my Exorcists. My Doms scouted up (should've outflanked) and drew fire/killed some stuff before going down to massed flashlights. He got a weapons destroyed on one Exorcist, thus is became an AV13 battering ram. Celestine flew up the board from cover to cover, burninating and assaulting his men. My one BSS and the working exorcist stayed in the rear. The other BSS made it pretty close to his lines, wrecked near some terrain and the sisters hopped out to shoot into his units. The non-shooting exorcists tank shocked one platoon, then one of his command squads just for fun. Celestine went down once in CC with his blob, only to get back up for more fun. We went to seven turns and she was still trucking with a single wound. Ended up I was contesting his objective, lost one Dom squad, one immolator, one rhino and part of a BSS. Celestine and my shooting (plus exploding vehicles) had torn up much of his platoons, whilst one exorcist and Celestine were within a couple inches of his objective.

All in all a good day for the Sisters.

Nicely done. So lesson-learned for Imperial Guard: castling up =! strategy. Fortifications can be a trap....

IG castles really make me want that little "fast" special rule on my Immolators. It would be nice to have the perfect tool for the job.

Is that updated codex the one we've been waiting for? That either means the real one is far off or theyll just call it good and we will see no more for them.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Is that updated codex the one we've been waiting for? That either means the real one is far off or theyll just call it good and we will see no more for them.

It is likely that this is just the stop gap. Much like when we got a digital copy of C:WH. It really means nothing in the overall scheme of things. The fact that it may have SOME updates (most likely just warlord traits) is amazing in itself.

It's just an e-book version of our current most likely. We'll know when it's out!

It's probably too much to hope they fix the D6 acts of faith so that it scales up for bigger games. D3 per 500 pts would be nice or goig back to a number of units generating system.

D

 evildrcheese wrote:
It's probably too much to hope they fix the D6 acts of faith so that it scales up for bigger games. D3 per 500 pts would be nice or goig back to a number of units generating system.

D

Has this been a problem recently? I guess I'm so used to low faith lists that I haven't run into any issues. We just don't need as much faith as we used to now that you only really use 1 faith per unit and have far fewer units that need it.

I find it problematic in games over 1500 but I admit my lists could be tighted up to allow wargear to reroll fails or get Jaco in for the reroll of the D6

It's also annoying if you play Apoc...

D

Honestly I'm used to the problem of having faith points I can't spend because anyone who can use them isn't in the situation where their acts work.

I like the unit-by-unit unique AOFs because they add character, but the Witchhunters' list of Acts that any unit could use was way more flexible. Can't we have both? 4-5 Acts any Sisters unit can use and one that's unique to that type of squad?

The unit-by-unit AOF is good in principle, it's just that some of them are fairly useless for some units, say Celestians.

Now if Celestians could be armed with close combat weapons...

For some there's also the fact that they don't last long enough unlike psychic powers (getting Repentia assaulted to death in the enemy's turn makes me cry..)