Paintjob doesn't really seem to line up, but I suppose we'll see soon enough. This month sounds really good, I will doubtless buy a Bandit but the other factions' stuff just sounds like fun as well.
Honestly, you're better off thinking of African references. Bandits were something the Black Hand arranged with the African tribal shaman that were part of the refugees moved onto Corregidor. The shaman picked out the recruits, Black Hand trained and outfitted them.
Barzam wrote: Hmm. The profile and fluff for the Krakot Renegade is up. Apparently that thing on his chest is actually a "Chest Mine." I would assume then that they can blow themselves up. They also have something called a "Red Haze."
I think "red haze" it's what's left after using the chest mine.
Tristan228 wrote: Actually I didn't know about that in particular but the Senufo mask pictured in the Bandits' logo is quite a broad hint of their possible descent.
So just imagine Mr. T cladded in Machete's machetes
I would imagine something more akin to the Vortex SpecOps with a machete.
Remember that they're Black Hand equipped; so topnotch gear.
Barzam wrote: Hmm. The profile and fluff for the Krakot Renegade is up. Apparently that thing on his chest is actually a "Chest Mine." I would assume then that they can blow themselves up. They also have something called a "Red Haze."
I think "red haze" it's what's left after using the chest mine.
I's actually 'Red Fury'. Someone on the Infinity Australia facebook group mentioned they spoke to Bostria about the Red Fury weapon, which was shown on one of the new EI units dossier. Bostria said it's like a cross between a Spitfire and a Plasma Rifle. Which sounds all kinds of nasty.
But remember, that was a while ago, and it only took 1 month for a Pulzar to change from a unique Tohaa gun that leaves models not killed in the Targetted state into a large teardrop Nanopulsar.
Zewrath wrote: Please CB, now that you're finally making the bandit sculpt, please don't make the model with a hacking device or combi rifle... >_>
Eh, personally I find the Hacker to be the profile I use the most. Specialist with all the goodness of an assault hacking device, while the Moran Masai cover FO duty. Apparently some product descriptions were released to a distributor listing it as a 'boarding shotgun' but that could be a vague description of a shotgun, or it could just be a word tacked on to a machete-wielding 'universal proxy'.
Tristan228 wrote: Actually I didn't know about that in particular but the Senufo mask pictured in the Bandits' logo is quite a broad hint of their possible descent.
So just imagine Mr. T cladded in Machete's machetes
I would imagine something more akin to the Vortex SpecOps with a machete.
Remember that they're Black Hand equipped; so topnotch gear.
But also Scavengers and Irregular , thus a random collection of weapons is still possible. Something I'd actually like to see on the sculpts
Tristan228 wrote: Actually I didn't know about that in particular but the Senufo mask pictured in the Bandits' logo is quite a broad hint of their possible descent.
So just imagine Mr. T cladded in Machete's machetes
I would imagine something more akin to the Vortex SpecOps with a machete.
Remember that they're Black Hand equipped; so topnotch gear.
But also Scavengers and Irregular , thus a random collection of weapons is still possible. Something I'd actually like to see on the sculpts
Yeeeah...I wouldn't. They might have the "Scavenger" skill, but they still have a base profile that should be easy to recognize.
Tristan228 wrote: I'm wondering how CB will solve that issue. Still fancying the Mr. T look though. In combination with a prowler-ish look and maybe some tribal stuff.
Black Hand operative with the Black Hand going out of their way to hide the fact that these guys are recruited from the tribes=no tribal look or likely even no exposed flesh.
I have this on hand as someone asked if I wouldn't mind sending it to them since they didn't have the Core book or know anyone who had it.
Infinity Core Book; Bandit entry wrote:
Spoiler:
If there ever was a time to call upon these guardian spirits, it was during the massive refugee exodus to the Lazareto module in Corregidor. The appalling conditions of overcrowding, precariousness and misery that caused so much human tragedy and death were also the perfect breeding ground for maras gang culture and an abusive black market. In the face of this, shamans had to broaden the scope of the guardian spirits, training them as thieves to provide for their people, but also as decent fighters capable of keeping the maras gangsters from preying on the weakest members of the tribe. Guardian spirits stole from the gangs and kept them in check, acting as anonymous masked vigilantes capable of killing when necessary. Capable also of dying, in strict adherence to their code of honor: "My life for the helpless." Many young men and women gave their life in this role, but shamans always found someone new to replace them, and so the guardian spirits never faltered. In time, Corregidor became more stable and the living conditions in Lazareto modules improved significantly. Internal issues were replaced by external abuses wherever Lazareto citizens plied their trade as Zero-G labor. But with the workers traveled their guardian spirits, stealing the equipment they were denied or beating up abusive foremen.
Naturally this violent vigilantism caught the attention of Black Hand analysts who, in the ship's spirit of sustainability, chose to repurpose it for their own needs instead of suppressing it. The Mexican General himself made a secret offer to the shamans of the many tribal groups of Lazareto: Black Hand would provide those chosen by the spirit with intensive training and, in return, they would become independent covert operatives, fundamentally deniable assets to the Nomad Military Force. To protect their identity, the project avoided codenames with tribal connotations, choosing instead to refer to them by what they did best, a name that also happened to be an old air force jargon term for confirmed hostiles. Perhaps they realized that the guardian spirit means well only to its own; to outsiders it is nothing but bad news: a genuine bandit and a cold-blooded killer.
That's actually a neat little bit of fluff. So they're like CIA operatives working for Corregidor. Their job sounds similar to the Intruders, though with more of an overt military purpose rather than the Intruders somewhat more defensive role. It sounds like their figures should also have fully enclosed uniforms, something I'm pleased to hear.
The only thing we do know (unless I'm misremembering) about the Maghariba is that it was too heavy in metal and they're exploring options for it to keep the weight down.
ImAGeek wrote: Looks awesome so far. Will probably preorder.
Me too!
Is that a rocket launcher she has?
...no?
She's got a YJ styled weapon. Can't tell exactly what as the magazine is removed. She's holding a reload in her other hand.
I really wouldn't bother preordering at this point. Wait until the book comes out, see how badly edited/spellchecked it is and then decide. It's not like they restrict the preorder models to actual preorders anyways.
Nobody knows. It was optimistically pegged for the holidays, but they just did the last photos in January. Bostria tweeted earlier that he was going to BoW to do some videos so probably soon.
Conservative estimate is March for preorders, April/May for release. Preorders for CB though are the dumbest thing you can imagine, as they count stores ordering their stock as "preorders". You can usually still find stuff with the preorder models months after release.
Well, now we know who the combat heels belonged to. That means that the TAG looking leg definitely belongs to the Su Jian.
I just know that if I preorder the book, it'll be like the last few preorders where I scramble to get it, it sells out everywhere, and then once it releases, Miniature Market will have it half off within a month.
I don't think that's the combat heels model. We haven't got a good look, but the dirt splatters gave the impression of a larger model. And the dirt was, again, red. This dirt is a dark brown.
Either way, if it's the pre order mini, sign me up. Looks great. If nothing else, another model for potential RPG use.
According to Bostria in the BoW weekender video, HSN3 will be available at Adepticon, so I assume preorders will go up soonish (they usually do a month preorders right?)
Adepticon is 31 March to 3 April this year. Will this be like with the Icestorm release, which was available early at GenCon and then only shipped out later (much later in some cases)?
For a month of pre-orders, we should see the announcement this coming week. We've seen the pre-order mini, so I suspect that we will get the full announcement. Finally, the transformation to N3 will be completed. I wonder what will link teams end up like?
Is there much of an Infinity presence at Adepticon? I was under the impression that it was strongly 40k, with little else. But with the current state of the 40k game, at least as it has been to me explained, I suspect that Adepticon management may want to diversify.
ImAGeek wrote: According to Bostria in the BoW weekender video, HSN3 will be available at Adepticon, so I assume preorders will go up soonish (they usually do a month preorders right?)
At 41:41 he says "I will be happy to sign your super cool new rulebook... if that happens..." That's not an announcement of HSN3 being there, yet.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Red Harvest wrote: Adepticon is 31 March to 3 April this year. Will this be like with the Icestorm release, which was available early at GenCon and then only shipped out later (much later in some cases)?
For a month of pre-orders, we should see the announcement this coming week. We've seen the pre-order mini, so I suspect that we will get the full announcement. Finally, the transformation to N3 will be completed. I wonder what will link teams end up like?
Is there much of an Infinity presence at Adepticon? I was under the impression that it was strongly 40k, with little else. But with the current state of the 40k game, at least as it has been to me explained, I suspect that Adepticon management may want to diversify.
Wyrd Miniatures is going to have a booth at Adepticon this year. So is CB. Privateer Press had pre-release models last year, and probably will again this year.
40k is still a big thing at Adepticon, but you can go to it, and not play a single game produced by Games Workshop the whole week. So the "with little else" hasn't been true for a few years, at least.
Lately we've basically been getting a huge image dump in the last week of the month. Either they're not giving out many to websites as previews anymore, or those websites just aren't bothering to do the previews anymore.
I'm going with the latter, because Data Sphere were given a preview and did it on time. So they're obviously still giving previews out. So deadbeat websites not putting the previews up is my guess.
At this point, I think CB should just do the regular previews on their website a day or two after a website is meant to do the preview rather than wait for the end of the month. If they're going to be a deadbeat and not show it, just do it yourself.
I offered to have Dakka Dakka be one of those 'preview websites' for monthly previews, but they stated that they only wanted to use websites that were more 'video oriented'.
They were certainly polite about it, but I'll admit, I'm not sure what they were getting from that vs. what Dakka Dakka could offer in terms of eyeballs on product!
-Loki- wrote: Lately we've basically been getting a huge image dump in the last week of the month. Either they're not giving out many to websites as previews anymore, or those websites just aren't bothering to do the previews anymore.
I'm going with the latter, because Data Sphere were given a preview and did it on time. So they're obviously still giving previews out. So deadbeat websites not putting the previews up is my guess.
At this point, I think CB should just do the regular previews on their website a day or two after a website is meant to do the preview rather than wait for the end of the month. If they're going to be a deadbeat and not show it, just do it yourself.
Honestly I don't know what to think.
They just cultivated a new partner in the form of that "Guerilla Games" or whatever. He was pretty damn good about having his previews up on time. Far better than BoW--who Bostria was just recently in studio with, or the Spanish blog site whose name eludes me that they started giving previews to as well recently.
Alpharius wrote: I offered to have Dakka Dakka be one of those 'preview websites' for monthly previews, but they stated that they only wanted to use websites that were more 'video oriented'.
They were certainly polite about it, but I'll admit, I'm not sure what they were getting from that vs. what Dakka Dakka could offer in terms of eyeballs on product!
Funny that as soon as I see a video preview embedded (you know that thing you can do with video) here, I immediately go to Angel's Facebook page to find pictures.
Don't like preview video at all.
Alpharius wrote: I offered to have Dakka Dakka be one of those 'preview websites' for monthly previews, but they stated that they only wanted to use websites that were more 'video oriented'.
They were certainly polite about it, but I'll admit, I'm not sure what they were getting from that vs. what Dakka Dakka could offer in terms of eyeballs on product!
Funny that as soon as I see a video preview embedded (you know that thing you can do with video) here, I immediately go to Angel's Facebook page to find pictures. Don't like preview video at all.
From what I understand they don't give you the video, they give you high res images. They just want you to make them into a HD video preview, essentially a slideshow.
I don't get it either. With video compression, a HD video is going to look worse than a simple high res image anyway. They want to show their stuff in the best light, they should be prioritising websites that's don't do them as video previews.
And yeah, if they want high volume websites to get the game known more, it's pretty crazy turning down an offer from Dakka.
-Loki- wrote: Funny that as soon as I see a video preview embedded (you know that thing you can do with video) here, I immediately go to Angel's Facebook page to find pictures.
Don't like preview video at all.
From what I understand they don't give you the video, they give you high res images. They just want you to make them into a HD video preview, essentially a slideshow.
I don't get it either. With video compression, a HD video is going to look worse than a simple high res image anyway. They want to show their stuff in the best light, they should be prioritising websites that's don't do them as video previews.
If the sites compile the images into a video slideshow, viewers are more likely to just share the video itself, and then viewers are enticed to visit the site that created the video.
Images are easily rehosted and cropped to the point that the original site that got the images from CB won't be recognized for their 'effort'. It's much more effort to extract images from videos, and many people won't go through the effort.
-Loki- wrote: And yeah, if they want high volume websites to get the game known more, it's pretty crazy turning down an offer from Dakka.
Well, there was that exclusive CB-hosted painting competition a long while back. Came with CB-sponsored prizes too.
It's been my experience from video previews that that doesn't happen. People don't share the video, they just take screengrabs and post those on facebook/forums.
I prefer the high quality pictures but if the video promises a 360 degree spin I will happily watch it. Sadly not likely to be possible if they are just sent images as suggested.
Speaking of videos.., there's gonna be a BoW preview today, and the rest shown Thursday according to Koni on the official forum. But yeah I'd prefer still photo previews to the videos. If nothing else because my signal at work is rubbish and photos load quicker than videos.
The photos still get released by Giraldez and Corvus Belli on their respective Facebook pages within 24hr of the news outlet videos being released. Seems to be within the news outlets' interest to keep them a video with their own 'touch' to attract viewers, and then CB/Giraldez releases the studio photos to make it official.
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Oh, I like that! Too bad I have one faction I'm learning and two "on deck" I'd like to start. Or maybe it's a good thing? My wallet says yes.
Vain wrote: I prefer the high quality pictures but if the video promises a 360 degree spin I will happily watch it. Sadly not likely to be possible if they are just sent images as suggested.
It is done quite othen with just images, there are some nice programs to do it with (some even make it easy).
The new transformer is like Beastwars over the older Autobot style. Not sure what one I like more.
That's definitely a tremendous looking sculpt, can't wait to see the close-ups on Angel's FB page.
That being said, as a personal choice I think I prefer the concept and style of the previous miniature - although I'm sure there will still be the old models around for a while (no doubt more cheaply now!) for those who feel the same way.
This is amazing, but so amazing I think it may have melted my brain: is this a HI trooper and a robo-tiger that goes with him, or... a transformer? My mind, it is blown.
This is amazing, but so amazing I think it may have melted my brain: is this a HI trooper and a robo-tiger that goes with him, or... a transformer? My mind, it is blown.
I like this redesign. I'm not a fan of the segmented arm look, but otherwise it's a very solid update. The redesign of the weapons alone are a serious improvement and the radome on its back is a neat little feature. It makes me wonder if they're planning on expanding its profile with some more options.
Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
This is amazing, but so amazing I think it may have melted my brain: is this a HI trooper and a robo-tiger that goes with him, or... a transformer? My mind, it is blown.
It's an unmanned transforming drone HI. Remote Presence, like a tiny version of PanO TAGs.
The tiger-form is hypermobile (6-6, climbing plus!) and the combat-form is durable and accurate at shooting, with a weapon for every occasion. Su-Jian is a real nasty peice of work.
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
Spoiler:
It is a Human Sphere unit though. Half the Yu Jing unit symbols changed colours from N2 to N3, it wouldn't be much of a stretch for the odd man out symbols (Su Jian, Shang Ji, Bao) to conform to the newly established styles in HSN3.
It'll have the updated painting scheme. A very impressive set of minis too. Yu Jing seems to be benefiting tremendously from the reculpt program...
Do we want/need a thread to discuss the ITS2016? Amusing that they continue to use Century Gothic as one of the fonts too... (it's related to the Futura font, which was used extensively in Original D&D and Original AD&D.)
Red Harvest wrote: It'll have the updated painting scheme. A very impressive set of minis too. Yu Jing seems to be benefiting tremendously from the reculpt program...
Do we want/need a thread to discuss the ITS2016? Amusing that they continue to use Century Gothic as one of the fonts too... (it's related to the Futura font, which was used extensively in Original D&D and Original AD&D.)
Yes on the separate thread for any ongoing 2016 ITS talk.
(And I loved the use of "Tw Cen MT" in the old 1st edition Hardcovers!)
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
Spoiler:
It is a Human Sphere unit though. Half the Yu Jing unit symbols changed colours from N2 to N3, it wouldn't be much of a stretch for the odd man out symbols (Su Jian, Shang Ji, Bao) to conform to the newly established styles in HSN3.
Yeah, I wager they will. The Shang Ji Invincible will almost definitely have its logo changed to fit with the Yan Huo and Zuyong invincibles.
Absolutionis wrote:If the sites compile the images into a video slideshow, viewers are more likely to just share the video itself, and then viewers are enticed to visit the site that created the video.
Images are easily rehosted and cropped to the point that the original site that got the images from CB won't be recognized for their 'effort'. It's much more effort to extract images from videos, and many people won't go through the effort.
-Loki- wrote:It's been my experience from video previews that that doesn't happen. People don't share the video, they just take screengrabs and post those on facebook/forums.
MRPYM wrote:
Spoiler:
This. Exactly this. I never bother to watch video previews. They're dumb. I just look for who has already screenshoted the pictures for me and reposted them somewhere else. I never bother with Beasts of War.
I'll watch a video, if it conveys some information that I can't get from a still. However, the images in this thread come from a BoW video that just zooms and rotates the images slowly, with some bad background music. It's less convenient than looking at the stills.
I'm rather conflicted by this new mini. I'd rather have new units being released, but it's very pretty. And looks like it could transform without having to disassemble itself like the old mini.
I wonder where the tail goes in robot mode? I notice that it also lacks the boosters on its back like the original. I wonder if they're going to rewrite its fluff since the original blurb mentions is having them.
Red Harvest wrote: It'll have the updated painting scheme. A very impressive set of minis too. Yu Jing seems to be benefiting tremendously from the reculpt program...
Do we want/need a thread to discuss the ITS2016? Amusing that they continue to use Century Gothic as one of the fonts too... (it's related to the Futura font, which was used extensively in Original D&D and Original AD&D.)
Yes on the separate thread for any ongoing 2016 ITS talk.
(And I loved the use of "Tw Cen MT" in the old 1st edition Hardcovers!)
Was it TW Cen MT? I heard tell that it was Futura. Of course, who can forget the look of Souvenir? All iconic games have an associated font, if you think about it. Caslon Antique, Goudy Medieval, and to get back to Infinity, Orbitron.
Barzam wrote: I wonder where the tail goes in robot mode? I notice that it also lacks the boosters on its back like the original. I wonder if they're going to rewrite its fluff since the original blurb mentions is having them.
Combat-Mode Su Jian has 4-2 movement, perhaps that's why they got rid of the boosters. It moves slower than even most heavy infantry in that form.
The fluff for it specifically mentions boosters, but in the context of "running at top speed". Seems like a Mobility Form thing.
Spoiler:
"Yes, effectiveness is great, but the best part of piloting a Su-Jian is activating the boosters and running at top speed through the battlefield, or defying gravity and climbing like a spider up the side of a building to shoot a pair of antitank projectiles at the enemy from where he least expects it!"
As for the tail, it probably retracts into that backpack-looking dorsal octagon. In Combat form, the octagon is jutting out significantly with a rail-looking thing for the tail. In Mobility Form, the octagon is more flush with the back and seems to have slif down a bit.
Hawt. I'm glad Yu Ji g has many older models that I don't like or carry really stupid looking guns. Otherwise I'd have to start buying a fair few of them.
Siygess wrote: Okay.. how in the heck did Angel make that digital camo on the Bandit look so damned good?
It's not digital camo.
If you look at it in this close-up, you can see that it is a variation on a leaf/moss pattern.
True, but since I don't think it's really possible to reproduce digital camo at this scale, the next best thing is to approximate it so that at a distance. it looks like it.. and I think Angel has pulled that off here. If the darkest grey / brown in the camo scheme was a tan, I think it would be indistinguishable from ACP. Maybe that's where I've been going wrong all these years - trying to make something look like digital camo by painstaking trying to paint tiny digital camo. If only I'd painted a leaf/moss pattern, it might have looked how I wanted
That Bandit turned out awesome. I'm glad they went will a fully suited look for him. One of the things that initially drew me to Corregidor is their overall aesthetic. I love that they all look like they're wearing armored vacuum suits and that most of their units wear fully enclosed suits. I'm happy to see that they went with that look for the Bandit. The exposed flesh really kept me from liking the Jaguars.
overtyrant wrote: Can't wait to see Hector's stats and what his Tinbot does, he's got a shield as well! I hope thats a EXP weapon he has!
The Tinbot gives -3 to hacking against Hector.
Has it be confirmed he get a Deflector program on his Tinbot.
It says he has Tinbot A in the photo.
Well damn I can't believed Imissed that. That suck so many thing they could do with a Tinbot and they still just using it to up BTS. At least unlike the other Tinbot user fitting him in a link so it is usefully will not cost a arm and leg. Except their aren't many HI to protect with it in A.S.S.
A Tinbot A is 1pt more expensive than its base model for Janissaries. Hector probably won't have the option to be taken without it.
I wonder if these "Homerids" in Hoplite Armor will be the new Aleph base ASS HI unit with Hector as the Enomatarchos leader. He has a pistol, shield, and sword. Perhaps even a CC-focused unit analogous to PanO knights?
If he's Enomotarchos, that already gives him a different role: he's a squad leader, not a solo-machine like Achilles. Particularly if he's extra-beefy, making him the ideal link leader for active turn attack.
drazz wrote: I never remember; is the blue ALEPH CCWexp or armor piercing?
Explosive or DA. Achilles and Phoenix both have blue CCWs, and they have EXP and DA respectively.
Red is AP.
Red = AP (Ekdromoi)
Blue = Exp or DA (Achilles/Patroclus Exp or Diomedes/Phoenix/Eudoros DA)
Yellow = Nanofilament (Penthesilea)
Purple = E/M (Scylla)
Metal = Vanilla (Nesaie)
Green = Shock (YuJing Daofei and CA Witch-Doctors)
Looking at other armies with lots of CCWs like Yu Jing, it seems that this color pattern is consistent.
♫♫I'm a little tinbot, short and stout...♫♫
How much rage will this tinbot induce? As much as the Janissary's? (Apparently, some players want to be able to shoot it, because it is a miniature on the table. But it is really just a marker, and thus unshootable. Cue nerd-rage in 3, 2, 1... ) It is a nice addition, and the helmet is a nice touch.
A good month. The Su-Jian is the pick of the litter. The Bandit and The Hector are very good. The remaining 2 are just nice, but a bit bland, IMHO.
Now begins the wait for the Human Sphere announcement...
Red Harvest wrote: How much rage will this tinbot induce? As much as the Janissary's? (Apparently, some players want to be able to shoot it, because it is a miniature on the table. But it is really just a marker, and thus unshootable. Cue nerd-rage in 3, 2, 1... ) It is a nice addition, and the helmet is a nice touch.
The Jannisary Tinbot is adorable, but my nerd rage at the box is they charged us full price for a 4 model box and included the Tinbot which is simply a marker. I would have much preferred a standard Jannisary Rifle and no Tinbot model for the price I paid for the Jannisary box.
Sure, put a Hector head on it. make it a Hector Mini Me.
Loki, I agree. As cute, or kawaii, as the tinbot is, I too would have preferred the AP rifle version, but I think that CB is reserving that for the Starter Box. Maybe. The Janissary box is US $1 more than the Mobile Brigada box (to compare recent HI box prices) Possible the tinbot was included because adding a 4th janissary would have really jacked up the price. They are big minis, lots of metal, and many parts.
Now, with the inclusion of the Trojans will we be seeing Paris, or even Helen, in the near future? Given the way that CB oft-times sculpts female minis, I do wonder how they would sculpt Helen of Troy...
Thanks, that explains why the forums are down for me again. Seems any news is enough to wipe them out for an hour or two. Thank god for Dakka!
Can't wait to see the stats for the Su Jian as I've just ordered one of the old ones at a discount. Guess I'm starting a Yu Jing army! There are some beautiful releases so far and we're only 2 months in to the year of Yu Jing, it was going to capture me at some point.
Well it has a new profile with an HSG instead of a spitfire fro roughly the same cost as the current one minus the SWC. The spitfire profile has gone up by 4 points to pay for:
+1 BS +1 Arm
8-2 move in mobility
No wound Incap
Kinematica 2 in mobility
I think that's it.
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
Spoiler:
I'm a little surprised by the changes to the profile from the one Abs posted. A net loss of 2 move in High Mobility (going from 6-6 to 8-2), an increase in BS, but the thing that confuses me most is the combination of adding No Wound Incapacitation to G:Remote Presence.
As I understand it, that means that Su-jian functionally acts as if it has 3 wounds, right? Or 4? G:RP gives it a second "unconscious" state, and NWI allows you to act while unconscious... right? The Wiki isn't loading so I may be getting either or both of those points wrong.
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
Spoiler:
I'm a little surprised by the changes to the profile from the one Abs posted. A net loss of 2 move in High Mobility (going from 6-6 to 8-2), an increase in BS, but the thing that confuses me most is the combination of adding No Wound Incapacitation to G:Remote Presence.
As I understand it, that means that Su-jian functionally acts as if it has 3 wounds, right? Or 4? G:RP gives it a second "unconscious" state, and NWI allows you to act while unconscious... right? The Wiki isn't loading so I may be getting either or both of those points wrong.
I'm a beginner but yeah, as I understand it it's got 4 wounds but terms and conditions apply. I managed to get on army 5 to check out the profile, its 59 2SWC with spitfire or 54 with heavy shotgun. That's pretty comparable to the gecko with its 3 STR but with some better stats and a smaller silhouette in either form , seems like a bargain to me.
Barzam wrote: Does anyone think the Su Jian will be accessible to the Invincible Army? If so, then I think I could get away with using the old kit as an older model in service with the ISS and the new one being a military model.
Very likely. Both have a distinctive black&yellow symbol unique amongst all the Yu Jing profiles.
Spoiler:
I'm a little surprised by the changes to the profile from the one Abs posted. A net loss of 2 move in High Mobility (going from 6-6 to 8-2), an increase in BS, but the thing that confuses me most is the combination of adding No Wound Incapacitation to G:Remote Presence.
As I understand it, that means that Su-jian functionally acts as if it has 3 wounds, right? Or 4? G:RP gives it a second "unconscious" state, and NWI allows you to act while unconscious... right? The Wiki isn't loading so I may be getting either or both of those points wrong.
The 8-2 move is better then 6-6 move, if you think about all the implications.
As for the effect of NWI, check out the FAQ for Vodged and G:RP for a idea of how NWI will react with G:RP.
Noir wrote: Any he can link with any A.S.S. linkable unit.
Ah, I see it now:
"You can feel the flavor in the differences with Achilles. Thanks to his Fireteam: Enomotarchos, Hector is able to form a four men Fireteam, but with a distinguishing feature. Hector can form a Fireteam: Enomotarchos with any of the Steel Phalanx line troops be it a Thorakitai Fireteam, Myrmidon Fireteam, or Dactyl Fireteam. A true example of the definition of leader."
Buzzsaw wrote: I'm a little surprised by the changes to the profile from the one Abs posted. A net loss of 2 move in High Mobility (going from 6-6 to 8-2), an increase in BS, but the thing that confuses me most is the combination of adding No Wound Incapacitation to G:Remote Presence.
The change is consistent. For instance Joan in mobility armour has 6 - 2 movement.
Hector is brutal, linked he's going to dominate a table given a chance. The silver lining is lack of ODD, meaning he's a tempting target for snipers and teardrop weapons. It gives me hope that my attack pieces such as Father Knight could go against him and had reasonable chance to come on top.
I always find the artichoke thing funny, because it only started when Angel changed the studio scheme. In the books, the artwork has the hair yellow, and the gills green. Angel swapped it around for painting the models. The artwork just looks like yellow hair.
The campaign is worldwide, Carlos said the results will be written into future books and it is set on Paradiso.
So its important to Corvus Belli and not just a side show, my take from this is that its likely organized to be something happening to celebrate the book launch.
He was at beasts of war for a week filming, that can only be Human Sphere they were showing off.
The campaign is worldwide, Carlos said the results will be written into future books and it is set on Paradiso.
So its important to Corvus Belli and not just a side show, my take from this is that its likely organized to be something happening to celebrate the book launch.
This has been planned for awhile. The "importance" of it is debatable though, since they talked initially about how it would be set on an isolated island planetside away from the main fluffed out warzones.
He was at beasts of war for a week filming, that can only be Human Sphere they were showing off.
He was there two weeks ago. We've now seen what they were filming, it was mostly a Q&A segment.
It is as important as it needs to be, not more not less.
A campaign does not need to be fluff shattering as the many various failed attempts GW has done in the past, it only needs to be important in the campaign.
I feel referenced in the fluff and /or a special character or two been inspired by the campaign is important enouph.
A campaign does not need to be fluff shattering as the many various failed attempts GW has done in the past, it only needs to be important in the campaign.
See, the rub is that CB/BOW have been hyping it as "fluff shattering".
And really? "It only needs to be important in the campaign"? The whole reason I made the statement I did is to let people know that this is not you getting to affect the outcome of the Paradiso conflicts.
CB literally just looked at their maps of Paradiso, found out "Hey we have an island that nothing important has happened on!" and decided that's where the campaign is going to take place. They're shoving everyone onto a self-contained area.
This whole campaign? It's not really meant to be a CB campaign. This is BoW doing a proof of concept for their campaign system.
I feel referenced in the fluff and /or a special character or two been inspired by the campaign is important enouph.
Yeah, because Infinity is so well known for their dearth of special characters.
He was at beasts of war for a week filming, that can only be Human Sphere they were showing off.
He was there two weeks ago. We've now seen what they were filming, it was mostly a Q&A segment.
Carlos seems to make a visit once or twice a year to BoW and always records a few sessions with them. What we got was a 20 minute segment in a Weekender show.
No way in hell did he get on a plane from Spain to N. Ireland just for a chit-chat and coffee. I wouldn't even put the airport address into my car's satnav for that, let alone drive there, risk going crazy dealing with morons in the airport and have to sit in a fart infested tin can for a couple of hours!
It feels as a joined testing project. CB learned a few things on Campaign: Paradiso, I'd be very surprised, if no input from their side was given. BoW have their own ideas and reasons to make it happen. Players test and play something new. Seems everyone can benefit from this project.
Anyway, it's hard to make a decent reason of why everyone in the Human Sphere is suddenly so interested in that little piece of island. Especially with a concept of a floating/submerged cities not being a futuristic idea in Infinity setting.
It means that Corvus Belli is apparently run by Humpty Dumpty.
Humpty Dumpty, in rather a scornful tone, wrote:“When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less."
Those are actual pages from HS. I'm guessing that it is ready for the printers, or even at the printers... Available at Adepticon, seems like this will be true. (Adepticon, The Con with the unfortunate logo-- a skull? sad, just very, very sad, guys. If it is going to expand beyond the GW stuff, it need to update its logo to be less brand specific.)
Sometime this week an announcement, maybe? And of course the releases for the month. Rumors about that?
Alpharius wrote: In the BoW video they try to sell the strategic importance of the island in terms of it being a good staging area to attack...almost everywhere else.
But it still seems a bit of a stretch given the tech level of all involved.
O-12 gets a nice shout out in it though!
I think it would have gone over better as the manifestation of a political/propaganda effort.
Obviously it would hold some strategic advantage but even Carlos (?) didn't sound super convinced about that part.
He was there two weeks ago. We've now seen what they were filming, it was mostly a Q&A segment.
He was there for an entire week. And one of he backstage videos shows him in the middle of filming a battle of some kind. So no, we haven't seen what they filmed.
He was at beasts of war for a week filming, that can only be Human Sphere they were showing off.
He was there two weeks ago. We've now seen what they were filming, it was mostly a Q&A segment.
Completely unsupported supposition on your part. There's no way Bostria travelled to Northern Ireland (which is a bleeping pain from Vigo) for a week, in the run up to Human Sphere, just to film a short segment.
Kanluwen wrote:See, the rub is that CB/BOW have been hyping it as "fluff shattering".
I wonder what kind of online setup they will create for both recording results, and what way they will have of authenticating results submitted by players? Will there be another 'Triad'? (Those who remember GW's event in years past will grin about that one )
I wonder what kind of online setup they will create for both recording results, and what way they will have of authenticating results submitted by players? Will there be another 'Triad'? (Those who remember GW's event in years past will grin about that one )
They explained this on a backstage video about the campaign system.
They are using a weighted system, when you put reports in for battles they can be rated by other players and there's some internal weighting as well.
The idea is that battle reports with pictures and detailed explanations will be weighted much higher than a simple 'Aleph fought Combined, Aleph won' to try and solve the fake report issues.
They are also going to monitor how many reports are posted by users in small timeframes as well.
They did say that some prizes and things will be awarded based on the quality of battle reports too to try and encourage the genuine reports as well, though what that means in practice wasnt clear.
No system is going to be completely free of the fake stuff, but when they explained it I did think it was a good attempt at addressing the issues of campaigns, whether its enough I guess we are about to see.
I'm suspecting that this all-out conflict will be the reasoning that the O-12 will involve themselves as a new faction. They have a command post nearby that isn't doing anything.
At the end, whoever wins will get the territory written into the fluff somehow, then the O-12 will step in and say "get guys, stop fighting, we're at DEFCON Infinity and we have out Peacekeeping Corps to make sure you stop fighting."
That makes sense to me Absolutionis, but that would make more sense if they had the 0-12 Sectorial / Faction / Units ready for the release directly after and I don't think there is enough time for that with the current time scale.
Still could be something that happens in a second follow up group campaign for perfect dove-tailing?
Bostria joined the company relatively early, but a few years after Infinity got started.
The original creators are Alberto Abal Couceiro (Bran Do Castro), Fernando Liste Azpeitia, Gutier Lusquiños Rodríguez (Interruptor) and Carlos Torres Rodríguez.
The N3 rulebook has a list of the creators, and the roles of others at CB too. Bostria will be listed as Carlos Llauger Lorenzo.
The is a thread on the Data Sphere forum where one of the original playtesters ( Yasbir, after whom the Dire Foes mini is named) tells some stories about CB's history, here, for the interested.
http://data-sphere.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=316
Red Harvest wrote: The N3 rulebook has a list of the creators, and the roles of others at CB too. Bostria will be listed as Carlos Llauger Lorenzo.
The is a thread on the Data Sphere forum where one of the original playtesters ( Yasbir, after whom the Dire Foes mini is named) tells some stories about CB's history, here, for the interested.
http://data-sphere.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=316
Excellent link there - thank you very much for sharing!
I wonder what kind of online setup they will create for both recording results, and what way they will have of authenticating results submitted by players? Will there be another 'Triad'? (Those who remember GW's event in years past will grin about that one )
They explained this on a backstage video about the campaign system.
They are using a weighted system, when you put reports in for battles they can be rated by other players and there's some internal weighting as well.
The idea is that battle reports with pictures and detailed explanations will be weighted much higher than a simple 'Aleph fought Combined, Aleph won' to try and solve the fake report issues.
They are also going to monitor how many reports are posted by users in small timeframes as well.
They did say that some prizes and things will be awarded based on the quality of battle reports too to try and encourage the genuine reports as well, though what that means in practice wasnt clear.
No system is going to be completely free of the fake stuff, but when they explained it I did think it was a good attempt at addressing the issues of campaigns, whether its enough I guess we are about to see.
Interesting, thanks for posting mate.
Very tempted to play as Tohaa, which I think will kind of take the role that the Eldar held in the old GW Abaddon Crusade event (sorry to keep bringing that up! )
Nomads/Pano the most popular and Tohaa are the least popular by a distance.
I like how they are doing this.
While I like the visual aesthetics of both PanO and Nomads, I wonder how much effect having them be in the starter has on the numbers. If they, for instance, make a Yu Jing vs Ariadna starter, would those shoot close to the top?
PanOceania and Nomads were popular factions before Icestorm. Nomads, however, have really taken of after icestorm release and N3. It would not surprise me to learn, that Nomads are currently the most popular faction.
I'd definitely say PanO were very popular from a lurker's perspective seeing what folks talked about but the Nomads really took off with the starter with the new sculpts (esp the Mobile Brigata) as well as the Geckos that came out iirc shortly prior. My bias might be showing though as I really like both their new look and models where as previously I didn't like the faction's look.
The redesign of the Nomads brought me into their camp as well. However, I think Haqq has appealed to me the most, visually. Thus, I am disappointed that they are only slightly higher than Tohaa in terms of popularity in this event. I suspect that the popularity of PanO and Nomads may have to do with both factions having a lot of TAGs available to them. All of the popular factions have multiple TAGs available to them, but the bottom two factions only get one each.
No one in my meta picked his faction because of higher AVA on TAG. Nomads are usually picked for having the best specialists (hackers), camouflage (intruders, spektr), or anarchistic/underground portrayal in the background.
Barzam wrote: The redesign of the Nomads brought me into their camp as well. However, I think Haqq has appealed to me the most, visually. Thus, I am disappointed that they are only slightly higher than Tohaa in terms of popularity in this event. I suspect that the popularity of PanO and Nomads may have to do with both factions having a lot of TAGs available to them. All of the popular factions have multiple TAGs available to them, but the bottom two factions only get one each.
I can vouch for that as I was drawn to both for the TAGs (for the look of the newish Nomad TAGs and the variety and utility but not the old sculpts though of the PanO ones). While I understand the need to clamp down on rambo'ing (my first introduction to Infinity was a ex-player/store employee trying to convince me NOT to get into Infinity because of rambo'ing), the lack of them in play (at least online on youtube) due to the ITC rules put a damper on that. The current Nomad and new/upcoming PanO TAGs still look damn cool though regardless.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Knight wrote: No one in my meta picked his faction because of higher AVA on TAG. Nomads are usually picked for having the best specialists (hackers), camouflage (intruders, spektr), or anarchistic/underground portrayal in the background.
Everyone builds their army for different reasons. Some build only what they visually like and rules be damned! whereas others go off of the stats and don't care about the overall look... and likely the biggest portion use a mix of both plus other reasons (like what is available locally on the shelf for instance) to varying degrees. There luckily is no right way to do it.
Apparently a March release, the alternates from the RPG. I have no idea why the Yu Jing and Ariadna HVTs are not shown. I figured these things would be sold under the Bootleg label.
And other rumored releases for the month Kanren - yu jing Umbra Samaritan - CA
You guys do know that the Samaritans were not so nice, supposedly. We have the story of the Good Samaritan only because said Samaritan was very much the exception. I expect this Umbra to be more of the 'typical' Samaritan.
Also, apologies for the huge image in my previous post. And I have no idea to whom to credit for it.
Given the Sarmatians were reputedly descendants of Amazons with fierce warrior women amongst their combatants, living around the eastern shores of the Black Sea at the time of the Roman Empire (and hence where I get the possible name link, Legate being a Roman rank), could this be a female Umbra?
And other rumored releases for the month
Kanren - yu jing
Umbra Samaritan - CA
What is a Kanren?
I think "Samaritan" might be tongue-in-cheek... that was also the name of Hellboy's hand cannon in the movies. Kinda' like calling someone a "choirboy". They usually aren't.
And other rumored releases for the month
Kanren - yu jing
Umbra Samaritan - CA
What is a Kanren?
I think "Samaritan" might be tongue-in-cheek... that was also the name of Hellboy's hand cannon in the movies. Kinda' like calling someone a "choirboy". They usually aren't.
"Kanren" are a new YJ unit. They're basically anti-camo/infiltrators.
Two new RUMORED units for PanO!
Clandestine Action Team Locust - PANO [Specifically NCA]
LI MOV 4-4 CC 20 BS 12 PH 12 WIP 13 ARM 1 BTS 3 AVA 1[2 in NCA] S 2
First look at the Kanren Counter-Insurgency Group from Beasts of War.
Here's their fluff:
To watch and monitor all subversive activity the Imperial Service has created the Kǎnrèn (侃刃, Bold Edge) Counterinsurgency Group. This unit is made up of brave men and women that track all kinds of insurgent, subversive, or radical groups that may want to implant themselves in Yu Jing. Their modus operandi is based on undercover infiltration into their ranks to gather information and learn everything necessary about said movements.
Before delivering the blow that will break the group apart, Kǎnrèn operators identify and locate all of its leaders and members, as well as their sources of financing, support networks, and allies. In this manner, they ensure the insurgent movement is completely destroyed without any possibility of regrouping, guaranteeing the security of the StateEmpire.
However, the work of these men and women is not easy, having to act without any support protecting their covers, and on numerous occasions revealing their identity as law enforcement agents prematurely in order to avoid a catastrophe. That is the type of operations they must fulfill: one of them against all of them. These operatives are therefore specialized in close combat and urban combat techniques.
This is the reason behind the name of the unit, Kǎnrèn (Bold Edge), because they are the sword of justice that stands alone in the wolf’s den.
Just saw this list of discontinued SKUs for infinity. It's mostly old and known stuff, but there is some interesting new stuff. I'm only really familiar with the Yu Jing line but it looks like Celestial guard will have an SWC box on it's way soon. It also looks like they're getting rid of the Pheasant, Keisotsu and Zanshi models that duplicate what's in the starter sets.
The list isn't just showing new stuff that's being removed, it's showing everything, hence the Celestial guard being listed. I noticed that the Ahl Fassed is listed. I'm not surprised. If they aren't removed all together, it would be nice to see their stats changed up a bit to differentiate them more from the Janissaries.
Miniatures Market is having a March sale with a bunch of Infinity stuff for 50% off including the Icestorm starter for $60 for those interested. I just got the email so have no idea if the list of sale items corresponds to the discontinued SKUs mentioned above though.
warboss wrote: Miniatures Market is having a March sale with a bunch of Infinity stuff for 50% off including the Icestorm starter for $60 for those interested. I just got the email so have no idea if the list of sale items corresponds to the discontinued SKUs mentioned above though.
...I shouldn't have looked at that. Those prices are crazy!
Yeah, looking at that site was dangerous. And the iguana must have flown off the shelf! It said 20+ when I clicked add to cart only to immediately tell me sold out.
I need to start a less popular faction, I jump at Miniature Market sales the moment I get the email and the Nomad and Pan O stuff I want is always gone!
wana10 wrote: Yeah, looking at that site was dangerous. And the iguana must have flown off the shelf! It said 20+ when I clicked add to cart only to immediately tell me sold out.
I almost grabbed one when they were still in stock. I DON'T EVEN PLAY THIS GAME (yet)
I almost grabbed one when they were still in stock. I DON'T EVEN PLAY THIS GAME (yet)
Same here! Posting it here right away was actually part of my wallet protection strategy (seriously!) ensuring that the good stuff would be gone by the time I was home on a trusted WiFi network.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular, but wow, someone went a bit overboard with the weathering powder on those boots. Looks like the photographer ( presumably Bostria) used Warsenal terrain for the backdrop.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular
His handgun is nice looking. The armor plates are aesthetically consistent with the newer Yu-Jing models. Those things besides: I hate it. Why is this bearded guy in a double breasted jacket running around pistol whipping things with his 9 while there are giant robots and giant invisible ninja alien robots running around. What is he thinking?
That's the part I have no problem with at all.
He's the deep cover operative who lets the spec ops team into the lab (or whatever) and then has to blow his cover when things go bad.
Obviously theyre taking some liberties by having him in Yu Jing armour, but they seem to be making some effort to make minis easier to identify on the board so it makes sense.
One of the most refreshing things about Infinity is that most of these conflicts aren't necessarily happening in war zones at all. Yes there are aliens and giant robots, but sometimes you just have to kidnap a CFO and need access to his heavily guarded office building.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular
His handgun is nice looking. The armor plates are aesthetically consistent with the newer Yu-Jing models. Those things besides: I hate it. Why is this bearded guy in a double breasted jacket running around pistol whipping things with his 9 while there are giant robots and giant invisible ninja alien robots running around. What is he thinking?
That's not a pistol.
That's the Yu Jing Chain Colt--basically a small weapon firing a template of monofilament death.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular
His handgun is nice looking. The armor plates are aesthetically consistent with the newer Yu-Jing models. Those things besides: I hate it. Why is this bearded guy in a double breasted jacket running around pistol whipping things with his 9 while there are giant robots and giant invisible ninja alien robots running around. What is he thinking?
That's not a pistol.
That's the Yu Jing Chain Colt--basically a small weapon firing a template of monofilament death.
ImAGeek wrote:Yeah, it's like a flamethrower, but it shoots hot razor sharp shrapnel instead of fire.
Cool! Not super relevant to the sculpting as it still is a "gun" in his "hand" and I do think it looks pretty sweet, but nice to have that little tidbit of uh.. fluff. Not sure shrapnel would really threaten a Cutter. Or an Iguana. Or Geckos. Or the Anathematic. Or Maruts. It might hurt a Gorgos and it's great for CQ fighting against regular humans, but even the regular guys are running around in Powered Armor. I thought I would illustrate that point with a clever witticism about those giant robots we all know and love.
I'd rather they had the odd model with pistols and stuff out, as opposed to every guy having their rifle or whatever. Makes it a bit more varied. And I think fluff wise the majority of the battles in Infinity is just small black ops style skirmishes; one small team against another, most of the time humans, most of the time not involving robots or aliens. He has other weapons, this is just sculpted when he's at a point where his Chain Colt is the right weapon.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular
His handgun is nice looking. The armor plates are aesthetically consistent with the newer Yu-Jing models. Those things besides: I hate it. Why is this bearded guy in a double breasted jacket running around pistol whipping things with his 9 while there are giant robots and giant invisible ninja alien robots running around. What is he thinking?
You must really hate Black Widow in the Avengers movies... Gods, Flying Armoured playboy, giant green monster....girl with a pistol.
Kanren, a decent enough mini-- nothing spectacular
His handgun is nice looking. The armor plates are aesthetically consistent with the newer Yu-Jing models. Those things besides: I hate it. Why is this bearded guy in a double breasted jacket running around pistol whipping things with his 9 while there are giant robots and giant invisible ninja alien robots running around. What is he thinking?
That's not a pistol.
That's the Yu Jing Chain Colt--basically a small weapon firing a template of monofilament death.
ImAGeek wrote:Yeah, it's like a flamethrower, but it shoots hot razor sharp shrapnel instead of fire.
Cool! Not super relevant to the sculpting as it still is a "gun" in his "hand" and I do think it looks pretty sweet, but nice to have that little tidbit of uh.. fluff. Not sure shrapnel would really threaten a Cutter. Or an Iguana. Or Geckos. Or the Anathematic. Or Maruts. It might hurt a Gorgos and it's great for CQ fighting against regular humans, but even the regular guys are running around in Powered Armor. I thought I would illustrate that point with a clever witticism about those giant robots we all know and love.
If chain colt was actually a monofilament weapon it would wreck all of those TAGs. Sadly it is not... Just a template pistol.
I actually like this model, but I won't exactly be running out to grab one.
Do we have any idea what the profile will be for this bloke?
His description leads me to believe he just might have impersonation. However the vid clips make me think it might be Holo2
Mastiff wrote: Yeah... I'm finding this guy a little off-putting, but he'll make a fine High Value Target.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the Infinity setting expand and acknowledge their universe doesn't "know only war".
Pretty sure that's going to be a focus of the RPG, from the descriptions of faction books that Modiphius has been using, and their intent to avoid material covered by the tabletop game.
Mastiff wrote: Yeah... I'm finding this guy a little off-putting, but he'll make a fine High Value Target.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing the Infinity setting expand and acknowledge their universe doesn't "know only war".
I'm thinking the same - great to use for scenario based play. Imagine some Speculo Killer or Hassassin diving in there to take out a high-ranking officer.
ImAGeek wrote: Some pics from the official forum (from FicZone I think?), looks like HSN3 is getting close!
Just reposting this from page 15, I missed it as well.
Forward deployment L2. Is that something we should expect in N3:HS?
Am I the only one here who really likes this guy?
Seems like a cheaper alternative to the oniwaban if you're looking for a unit to get in close with monofilament CCW or boarding shotty.
I don't have much experience using Holoprojector, but anything that lets you bluff like that can be super useful.
Interested to see what "killer hacking device" entails
Looks to be 3 points cheaper on the Profiles shown above and with no SWC.
Honestly I see it as streamline of the Assault Hacker, maybe all it has is the 'kill' options.
So "Brain Blast" or "Sucker Punch" (someone managed to rewire an EI hacking device for limited effect?) so that you can kill hackers
Perhaps they might add one that causes structure damage as well? I can only hope.
Vain wrote: Looks to be 3 points cheaper on the Profiles shown above and with no SWC.
Honestly I see it as streamline of the Assault Hacker, maybe all it has is the 'kill' options.
So "Brain Blast" or "Sucker Punch" (someone managed to rewire an EI hacking device for limited effect?) so that you can kill hackers
Perhaps they might add one that causes structure damage as well? I can only hope.
Red Harvest wrote: If so, it means the Tohaa have been moved to HS. I cannot recall hearing if this would happen.
Pre-Orders should begin fairly soon, if the book will actually be available at Adepticon in 21 days.
Well when they told us about HSN3 they said both HS and Paradiso would be covered in it minus the campaign only stuff. So we have know since day one Tohaa and the Greek sectional would be in it and the fluff covering both.
They've also said that the early Tohaa stuff they've released special rules for, like the Carathar(?) pheromone powers, were only a teaser for what would be in Human Sphere. There's little point putting Tohaa special rules in Human Sphere if they weren't putting Tohaa as a whole in there.
Nice, the first thought I had on a miniature is of an alien harbinger vibe, love the glaive weapon he has, as well the dynamic of floating across the terrain. This is going to be a treat for talented painters.
Bladerunner2019 wrote: Am I the only one here who really likes this guy?
Seems like a cheaper alternative to the oniwaban if you're looking for a unit to get in close with monofilament CCW or boarding shotty.
I don't have much experience using Holoprojector, but anything that lets you bluff like that can be super useful.
Interested to see what "killer hacking device" entails
It'll be nice to get a model with a holoprojector that can actually get some spacing between the echoes. At the moment, there's only the Remote on a 55mm base, and the three echoes have to be in base contact.
As an aside, I'd be tempted to just buy three of this miniature, rather than using the two echo counters. I find that visually disappointing (to the extent that I photoshopped up a "3" counter to use with the Remote rather than using the miniature as one of the echoes )
Cool poses are back! Well, at least for this version of Darth Nasty. The EI sectorial (minis anyways) is shaping up very well indeed. Very menacing. Good stuff.
My only worry would be how well it is balanced on the base. I foresee the use of counterweights in the future for many an EI player...
Yeah You'd need to weigh down the base big time.
What is the silhouette on that? It'll be difficult fitting that floating monster in any tight spots
25mm base so S2; it's quite a lot bigger (someone did a comparison on the official forum, it's about double the height of the S2 marker). However, that is the whole point of the silhouette system, and we've had quite a long run of mostly mundane poses, it's nice to see something properly dynamic.
Silly question, but how is the Umbra supposed to be hovering like that? It seems very psychic powers, and I wasn't aware there were such things canonically in the Infinity universe (or perhaps I'm simply not up on my reading...).
Damn, that's gorgeous. I've been very tempted to start a new "alien" faction, and this may have pushed me over the edge.
I wonder if it represents TO Camo instead of a movement power, blending into the shadows. But I'd like to think he was teleporting like Nightcrawler from the second Xmen movie.
I like the TO idea, have him in a "smart cloak" that replicates the environment (nope, not an Umbra, just a little bush here) until he is ready to leap out and spring death on someone (haha, I was lying, I was an Umbra all along!)
But give it a couple of days and somewhere along the rampant speculating we will see a profile and it will become a little bit clearer.
One of the things that really surprised me about Infinity was the lack of movement abilities like flight, jump packs or teleporting. "Superleap" is the closest they come to an ability .
That's not a complaint, and neither do I think the game needs it. But I'm always needing to remind myself that my Tigers have a special deployment ability, not a movement ability like jump packs a la40k.
Someone posted this on 4chan, and I agree that it's really weird to be a S2 model.
I wonder if Aleph Hoplites and CA Umbra will be getting their own silhouettes anytime.
I'm wondering if that 25mm base has been stuck down to the display plinth to make it stable enough to take the photos...
Given the height and probable balance issues of the thing, maybe just making it S5 would solve the problem. Obviously, creating a couple of other issues in the process, mind you.
Nah, it isn't that weird. When they introduced the Silhouette system, they said they wanted people to have a bit more freedom in how they displayed their figures and allow their sculptors a bit more freedom in how they portray the figures. I think I would've put him on a 30-40mm base though.
Probably because all those posts where made when the other Umbras came out.
Other than the dynamic pose making this one stick out more, it seems to be roughly the same size as the others.
HoverBoy wrote: Probably because all those posts where made when the other Umbras came out.
Other than the dynamic pose making this one stick out more, it seems to be roughly the same size as the others.
I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic. General releases, especially newer HI models, are starting to go well over the S2 size and now this model is being released and he's not even close to the S2 scale, not even if the silhuettes should represent "a general aproximation" of the models size.
Zewrath wrote:How has Kanluwen not made a massive post about scale creep yet?
Zewrath wrote:
HoverBoy wrote: Probably because all those posts where made when the other Umbras came out.
Other than the dynamic pose making this one stick out more, it seems to be roughly the same size as the others.
I'm sorry but I don't follow that logic. General releases, especially newer HI models, are starting to go well over the S2 size and now this model is being released and he's not even close to the S2 scale, not even if the silhuettes should represent "a general aproximation" of the models size.
Is the actual mini, the Umbra part, not the flowing tactical rock equivalent part, the same size as the starter box Umbra? If yes, then what scale creep? Look at the Ragik Hacker and how elevated that thing is. ( Ridiculous looking too, IMHO, reminds of those home made stilts kids make from tin cans...)
Previews for the HVTs next? Or the announcement we've all been waiting for?
have we seen the most recent sniper shot here?
Looks like the head of the Yu Jing HVT to me.
It's been dubbed the "tactical cabbage" by the official forums.
I like that term, personally.
Umbra Samaritan looks good barring the Tactical Cabbage and silhouette shenanigans. There will be situations where you can see the entirety of the model but because of silhouettes you can't actually hit them--you put the silhouette down to match where the base is, not the model.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, even better? The rumors about the Samaritan are from the same source as the Locust--so it looks more and more like I get my badass NCA assassins!
All two of them? I'd wish their AVA would be higher, following the same thought, I hope shotgun configuration will be the first profile released. Along with drop bear miniatures. They already have moulds for them, I'd buy two of them simply to have them for Bolts as well.
I'm guessing that it is ready for the printers, or even at the printers... Available at Adepticon, seems like this will be true. (Adepticon, The Con with the unfortunate logo-- a skull? sad, just very, very sad, guys. If it is going to expand beyond the 
or Flaming Sphere (N.B. Do not taunt Flaming Sphere!)
