Recurring themes of the series of the series include 'God is Evil' while Lucifer is portrayed as a noble demon.
As an example, in SMT II, God's avatar - YHVH - is portrayed as an uncaring and ruthless tyrant whose ultimate goal is to create a perfect world...without free will. Lucifer's avatar in that same game - Louise Cypher - is portrayed as a 'Benevolent Boss' on the other hand.
Recurring themes of the series of the series include 'God is Evil' while Lucifer is portrayed as a noble demon.
As an example, in SMT II, God's avatar - YHVH - is portrayed as an uncaring and ruthless tyrant whose ultimate goal is to create a perfect world...without free will. Lucifer's avatar in that same game - Louise Cypher - is portrayed as a 'Benevolent Boss' on the other hand.
Oooh boy. Now that will piss off the christian right.
Oooh boy. Now that will piss off the christian right.
I so want that to happen
Japanese media has actually shown a remarkable number of misconceptions concerning Western religion, but not that shocking. We show a similar level of confusion concerning eastern religions. Granted I'm not sure if SMT is an example of that. I remember reading something once about Gnostic undertones in the SM series of games which fits to a very loose extent the series motifs.
Recurring themes of the series of the series include 'God is Evil' while Lucifer is portrayed as a noble demon.
As an example, in SMT II, God's avatar - YHVH - is portrayed as an uncaring and ruthless tyrant whose ultimate goal is to create a perfect world...without free will. Lucifer's avatar in that same game - Louise Cypher - is portrayed as a 'Benevolent Boss' on the other hand.
Oooh boy. Now that will piss off the christian right.
I so want that to happen
Spoiler:
You kill God's avatar in all three endings of SMT II. Granted, the Neutral Ending has YHVH cursing you to a fate worse than death (indirectly confirmed in SMT III) for defying God, though in the Law Ending he takes his defeat (and death) in stride as a noble sacrifice to create the perfect world, while Lucifer will protect you from God's vengeance in the Chaos Ending.
Just pulled my Record of Lodoss War DvD's out of storage if that counts. If you don't know what this anime is, you are missing out on some classic cartoon action.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And, some original Megaman the show. Still remember watching that on t.v. sadly.
ImperialFists2ndCompany wrote: Just pulled my Record of Lodoss War DvD's out of storage if that counts. If you don't know what this anime is, you are missing out on some classic cartoon action.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And, some original Megaman the show. Still remember watching that on t.v. sadly.
Looked up Record of lodoss war and started watching it.
Does everyone in the show have EXTERMINATUS-PROOF shoulders?
darkcloud92 wrote:A while back someone suggested starship runway ideon and I am just now giving it a whirl, pretty good so far
Daba wrote:
darkcloud92 wrote: A while back someone suggested starship runway ideon and I am just now giving it a whirl, pretty good so far
Ideon is pretty sweet, though I found the early part of the series kind of slow.
Like a certain other show, you need to see the last movie to get the actual ending though.
IMO watching the show is ok and the movies are better. The 2 movies make a lot of sense if you watch them without the TV show. It actually amazes me when compilation movies are that good and actually improve upon the original even if the show gets cancelled.
Oh so the movies are compilations like how some of the Gundam Series have compilation movies? I might try that out, bc watching each episode in multiple parts on youtube is kind of annoying. Well more so youtube is really annoying, it has got to be one of the worst sites for streaming videos lol
Oh so the movies are compilations like how some of the Gundam Series have compilation movies? I might try that out, bc watching each episode in multiple parts on youtube is kind of annoying. Well more so youtube is really annoying, it has got to be one of the worst sites for streaming videos lol
Yeah I suggest just watching the movies. It cuts a lot of stuff that really isn't important. Ideon has a lot of guys who show up with a new uber weapon which is then defeated later in the episode. This gets repeated a lot throughout the show. The movie touches on everything that's really important and they are really enjoyable. Especially the last movie.
Mhm.. Think I'll rewatch the first anime I've ever watched (and got me into it. ) Tekkaman Blade! God, that series was not made for 7 year olds, but boy was it great.
And valerian, I am amused that an anime not being released in America is apparently something that would hinder me from seeing it. I don't watch dubs and I CBA to wait for official releases to come here 5 years after the fact.
darkcloud92 wrote:A while back someone suggested starship runway ideon and I am just now giving it a whirl, pretty good so far
Daba wrote:
darkcloud92 wrote: A while back someone suggested starship runway ideon and I am just now giving it a whirl, pretty good so far
Ideon is pretty sweet, though I found the early part of the series kind of slow.
Like a certain other show, you need to see the last movie to get the actual ending though.
IMO watching the show is ok and the movies are better. The 2 movies make a lot of sense if you watch them without the TV show. It actually amazes me when compilation movies are that good and actually improve upon the original even if the show gets cancelled.
Oh so the movies are compilations like how some of the Gundam Series have compilation movies? I might try that out, bc watching each episode in multiple parts on youtube is kind of annoying. Well more so youtube is really annoying, it has got to be one of the worst sites for streaming videos lol
Yeah, they are a bit like that though the last movie builds a lot on it, changes a few things and actually has the ending.
The soundtrack is also one of the best and uses the leitmotif really well.
Compilation movies don't always work so well. The Gundam one was quite good, as it covered a lot and gave a good summary; the Ideon one turned out really well. But the Zeta Gundam one apparently wasn't so great, and the L-Gaim ones miss off a lot of stuff, and I didn't like the standalone one that much (it might work standalone it seemed odd in the continuity of the series as it happened midway through the beginning but if it happened I think later parts in the series would be affected, and some characters seemed to act a little OOC).
And valerian, I am amused that an anime not being released in America is apparently something that would hinder me from seeing it. I don't watch dubs and I CBA to wait for official releases to come here 5 years after the fact.
True and true
Daba wrote: ...the Zeta Gundam one apparently wasn't so great...
That depends on your point of view; I actually enjoyed it, especially the alternate ending it presented to the Zeta Gundam saga.
I haven't seen the movies, but that was what I heard. I think it might be because the movies aren't bad per se, but make no sense if you haven't seen the series perhaps? (I dunno, haven't seen it).
Oh, L-Gaim is also for fans of Jet Bikes. It's how people get around in that show.
Daba wrote: I haven't seen the movies, but that was what I heard. I think it might be because the movies aren't bad per se, but make no sense if you haven't seen the series perhaps? (I dunno, haven't seen it).
No, you can watch the movies even without watching the series beforehand.
Yeah, they are a bit like that though the last movie builds a lot on it, changes a few things and actually has the ending.
The soundtrack is also one of the best and uses the leitmotif really well.
Compilation movies don't always work so well. The Gundam one was quite good, as it covered a lot and gave a good summary; the Ideon one turned out really well. But the Zeta Gundam one apparently wasn't so great, and the L-Gaim ones miss off a lot of stuff, and I didn't like the standalone one that much (it might work standalone it seemed odd in the continuity of the series as it happened midway through the beginning but if it happened I think later parts in the series would be affected, and some characters seemed to act a little OOC).
I completely agree with you although I haven't seen the L-Gaim ones because L-Gaim was so boring to me. I got tired of all the sillyness.
Let's not talk about the 0083 movie. That was one of the worst pieces of garbage ever along with the SEED ones.
Yeah, they are a bit like that though the last movie builds a lot on it, changes a few things and actually has the ending.
The soundtrack is also one of the best and uses the leitmotif really well.
Compilation movies don't always work so well. The Gundam one was quite good, as it covered a lot and gave a good summary; the Ideon one turned out really well. But the Zeta Gundam one apparently wasn't so great, and the L-Gaim ones miss off a lot of stuff, and I didn't like the standalone one that much (it might work standalone it seemed odd in the continuity of the series as it happened midway through the beginning but if it happened I think later parts in the series would be affected, and some characters seemed to act a little OOC).
I completely agree with you although I haven't seen the L-Gaim ones because L-Gaim was so boring to me. I got tired of all the sillyness.
Let's not talk about the 0083 movie. That was one of the worst pieces of garbage ever along with the SEED ones.
Wait Stardust Memories had a movie? How odd, the series was already pretty short. I really enjoyed Stardust Memories, shame it had a bad movie
Just finished the last three episodes of Dangan Ronpa. Very excellent, despite the fact that they had to cut out a lot of stuff from the game to make it fit into a twelve episode format.
And this was an awesome little tidbit at the end of the final episode:
Recurring themes of the series of the series include 'God is Evil' while Lucifer is portrayed as a noble demon.
As an example, in SMT II, God's avatar - YHVH - is portrayed as an uncaring and ruthless tyrant whose ultimate goal is to create a perfect world...without free will. Lucifer's avatar in that same game - Louise Cypher - is portrayed as a 'Benevolent Boss' on the other hand.
Follow up on this. The Shin Megami Tensei games (Devil Survivor/Devil Survivor 2 on DS, SMT IV and one called Soul Hacker on 3DS and I believe another called Perfect Journey) are all available on Amazon, translated and official. I also believe that the SMT Devil Survivor anime is on CR, or at least part of it. http://www.crunchyroll.com/devil-survivor-2-the-animation
Automatically Appended Next Post: Speaking of CR two guest pass codes up for grabs! Ready? Set? GO!
AduroT wrote: So AoT is finished and they tell you Nothing in the end! May have to read this manga, which would be my first.
I'm actually surprised. They ended the anime exactly along the lines of the manga (obviously this isn't the end of the story) but I prefer this to some crappy hack job ending. They've announced the release of OVA's as of now, but I wouldn't be surprised if more seasons appeared. The series did well over all, and they ended at the part of the story where the series just starts getting better.
Grey Templar wrote: It would be rather stupid for them to not do more. So unless outside forces conspire against them it should happen.
Same thing with Girls Und Panzer. You'd have to be insane not to take advantage of good show material.
Eh, I don't see Girls und Panzer needing another season; it told its story, and doesn't really have another to tell, as far as I know. Although I think they're getting a movie? Someone's getting a movie, at least.
I'm not as familiar with the various manga storylines as I should be, so maybe there's something I'm missing.
There are 50 chapters of AOT currently correct? An the anime covers like 42 chapters? I heard that if it does get a new season it wont be until next year since they have to wait for more of the manga. But, they could do OVA's for the remaining chapters. Which would be nice, since I absolutely despise cliffhanger endings. I don't find them thrilling and it doesn't make me want to watch the next part any more lol Cliffhangers are more cliche and annoying than anything else
Grey Templar wrote: It would be rather stupid for them to not do more. So unless outside forces conspire against them it should happen.
Same thing with Girls Und Panzer. You'd have to be insane not to take advantage of good show material.
Eh, I don't see Girls und Panzer needing another season; it told its story, and doesn't really have another to tell, as far as I know. Although I think they're getting a movie? Someone's getting a movie, at least.
I'm not as familiar with the various manga storylines as I should be, so maybe there's something I'm missing.
Sure, they wrapped that story up. But you'd be insane not to get another story out of it.
Grey Templar wrote: It would be rather stupid for them to not do more. So unless outside forces conspire against them it should happen.
Same thing with Girls Und Panzer. You'd have to be insane not to take advantage of good show material.
Eh, I don't see Girls und Panzer needing another season; it told its story, and doesn't really have another to tell, as far as I know. Although I think they're getting a movie? Someone's getting a movie, at least.
I'm not as familiar with the various manga storylines as I should be, so maybe there's something I'm missing.
Sure, they wrapped that story up. But you'd be insane not to get another story out of it.
True, but dragging the story out can be bad, too.
I'm not saying that it shouldn't be done, I'm just saying that they shouldn't do it unless the story is different enough from the first season to not be a rehash, which, considering the format of the anime, could be a problem.
More of the Same might be fun, but it would also be repetitive, is all.
I have 13 box sets and one DVD, most sourced through Amazon. The only one I bought new at a Con is my copy of the Eva Platinum box set, and I worked for that guy for 6-7 hours to drop the price from $100 to $30. As of now I have maybe two other box sets on my "buy" list.... belay my last. Three. All through Amazon (they're Kaze no Stigma, $18 courtesy of Funimation's S.A.V.E program, Claymore. $30 and the BIG ticket item the Complete Spice and Wolf blue ray DVD combo pack at $36)
I am less inclined to buy DVDs for the most part. I used to do it more or less as penance for all the downloading I do, but I support the industry via crunchy roll, so I feel a bit less guilty
darkcloud92 wrote:
Wait Stardust Memories had a movie? How odd, the series was already pretty short. I really enjoyed Stardust Memories, shame it had a bad movie
Yeah. Its called the Last Blitz of Zeon. It also goes by another name that I cannot recall at that moment. If you haven't watched the series it literally makes no sense.
Onto the topic of AoT. The anime covers 34 chapters exactly and changes almost nothing. There are a few additions in the anime, but its not too much. The rage mode Eren goes on in episode 25 was all brand new as well. Her climbing up the wall and everything after is literally straight from the manga. You could probably read chapters 35 to 49 and you would be ok. I really do hope it gets another anime adaptation in about a year that way the manga is another 12 chapters ahead and there will probably be enough for another 20 or so episodes. The problem is after that because the manga is set to run about 90 chapters.
Ahhh ok, I found it while fishing around for any Gundam OVA, inbetween season shorts, and compilations.
I found a little short for 08th MS that I had never seen before. It is pretty awesome! But no sub or dub exists of it, so you'll have to settle for watching it in Japanese. Well worth it in my opinion.
I completely agree with you although I haven't seen the L-Gaim ones because L-Gaim was so boring to me. I got tired of all the sillyness.
Let's not talk about the 0083 movie. That was one of the worst pieces of garbage ever along with the SEED ones.
L-Gaim gets a lot less silly around halfway through; most of the silliness drops around the time they team up with Semuj, and that part resembles the good parts of similar Gundam series, and even concludes properly which other good series fail to do.
I was expecting it to be so-so, just killing an hour, turns out it was fairly brutal and great so far, I liked how in the first season it was fair game for anyone to be eaten at any time, now it seems the plot armor is up :(
Don't worry. Not getting eaten generally means your too good to get eaten. It seems to be a little bit of survival of the fittest. Why is Mikasa and Levi alive? Their better than everyone else.
darkcloud92 wrote:Ahhh ok, I found it while fishing around for any Gundam OVA, inbetween season shorts, and compilations.
I found a little short for 08th MS that I had never seen before. It is pretty awesome! But no sub or dub exists of it, so you'll have to settle for watching it in Japanese. Well worth it in my opinion.
Yeah it was released with the Blu-Ray release of 08th MS Team. It came out earlier this year and its pretty awesome, but I wish it was subbed although it doesn't really appear to require any since not much happens except for some action.
Daba wrote:
L-Gaim gets a lot less silly around halfway through; most of the silliness drops around the time they team up with Semuj, and that part resembles the good parts of similar Gundam series, and even concludes properly which other good series fail to do.
I might have to give it another shot, but all the silliness really bugs me. Maybe 4 years later I'll be able to put up with it. xD
Admiral Valerian wrote:@Red Comet
Seed wasn't so bad...Destiny on the other hand...ugh.
I was referring to the SEED compilation movies. Those are just bad. The Destiny movies actually improved the show IMO though.
Unit 731 was the Japanese army's bioweapon research unit. They committed some unethical medical experiments right up there with guys like Mengele. Their CO, IIRC, died a free man, in the US, for having handed over all their research.
The Japanese in WW2 did things that would have made the worst Nazi blanch a little. Look up the Rape of Nanking and some of the other battles in China from the invasion of Manchuria to the end of the war. The perversion of bushido that the generals running Japan had installed in the hearts of Japanese soldiers, blended with long standing traditions of nationalism, and of course adding a little xenophobia/racism for flavor resulted in incredible horrors visited upon the peoples the IJA conquered.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: The Japanese in WW2 did things that would have made the worst Nazi blanch a little. Look up the Rape of Nanking and some of the other battles in China from the invasion of Manchuria to the end of the war. The perversion of bushido that the generals running Japan had installed in the hearts of Japanese soldiers, blended with long standing traditions of nationalism, and of course adding a little xenophobia/racism for flavor resulted in incredible horrors visited upon the peoples the IJA conquered.
I was referring to the SEED compilation movies. Those are just bad. The Destiny movies actually improved the show IMO though.
True to the first, and false (IMO) to the second; I keep getting irritated/outraged by the blatant MS plagiarism in Destiny.
You couldn't stand the Gouf Ignited and the Zaku Warrior? They weren't too bad design wise. Its not the first time an AU series literally rips an old MS design from UC though.
So you don't think only 5 hours Destiny is better than the full series? ;P
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed and Seed Destiny are effectively retellings of Mobile Suit Gundam and Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam. Their point was to plagerize older MS series XD.
And like Zeta Gundam, Destiny had us following a whiny little baby for half the show while he whined and complained and gave us an unsatisfying ending
The difference was that Kamille became likable and the previous cast didn't push him out of the limelight. Also Tomino is a far better story teller than Fukuda and it shows because Fukuda makes a lot of characters useless like Lacus. XD
Imperial Japanese Army Bio-Weapons Research and Development Division, although unlike the Nazis their research actually had scientific basis (although they were just as cruel and inhumane), so much so that the scientists were granted amnesty by the Americans after WWII in exchange for their cooperation and the research data.
I was referring to the SEED compilation movies. Those are just bad. The Destiny movies actually improved the show IMO though.
True to the first, and false (IMO) to the second; I keep getting irritated/outraged by the blatant MS plagiarism in Destiny.
You couldn't stand the Gouf Ignited and the Zaku Warrior? They weren't too bad design wise. Its not the first time an AU series literally rips an old MS design from UC though.
I don't mind tributary designs, heck, the Reborn Gundam from 00 resembles the Hi-Nu Gundam, but Destiny was just ridiculous.
In the case of the CC, I can understand because the CC is supposed to take place in the distant future of the UC. Char would be dancing with glee over the fact that most of the spacenoids had modified their space colonies into generation ships and had left for deep space, while the Earth-born elite had regressed back to a pre-industrial civilization.
So you don't think only 5 hours Destiny is better than the full series? ;P
I see what you did there
Red Comet wrote: The difference was that Kamille became likable and the previous cast didn't push him out of the limelight. Also Tomino is a far better story teller than Fukuda and it shows because Fukuda makes a lot of characters useless like Lacus. XD
Yeah, and Kamille eventually grew up, and the characters from the original series didn't really change their characterization. Cagalli was so damn different in Destiny I could have sworn that she was replaced by an imperfect clone during the time skip. Not to mention MASSIVE holes in the story; seriously, they fight to create a free world, but in the end, the Clynes and the Athas end up creating an oligarchy between them over the Earth Sphere. Talk about hypocrisy man; at least in UC the protagonists had to choose a lesser evil by supporting the corrupt but democratic Earth Federation over the fascist Principality of Zeon/Titans.
Yeah, and Kamille eventually grew up, and the characters from the original series didn't really change their characterization. Cagalli was so damn different in Destiny I could have sworn that she was replaced by an imperfect clone during the time skip. Not to mention MASSIVE holes in the story; seriously, they fight to create a free world, but in the end, the Clynes and the Athas end up creating an oligarchy between them over the Earth Sphere. Talk about hypocrisy man; at least in UC the protagonists had to choose a lesser evil by supporting the corrupt but democratic Earth Federation over the fascist Principality of Zeon/Titans.
Not to mention that Athrun essentially went backwards as a character and then went through the same characterization as the original SEED. I completely agree with you on Destiny.
Going back to Reborns Gundam its fun to mention that that thing is the biggest troll because its one giant reference to the original MSG as is Ribbons Almark. Reborns Gundam was originally supposed to be 3 MS in one (this is all part of 00V iirc). Notice that it looks a lot like the RX-78 and the Guncannon. Can you guess what the 3rd MS was going to be? Yup the Gun Tank. Also Ribbons is voiced by the guy who did Amuro Ray in the Japanese version and it gets even funnier when you realize that Amuro Ray's Voice Actor is Setsuna in English.
O Gundam looks like the RX-78 because Ribbons is Amuro in the 00 universe because he was the original Gundam pilot. I loved all of those nods that 00 had to original UC.
Finished Cowboy Bebop and Ninja Scroll reruns, now I'm on my second viewing of Basilisk and I'm beginning, for my first time, to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion.
My buddy who is an enormous Mega Man fan gave me his Casshern Sins anime. I saw the live-action film a long time ago and thought it was okay, apparently the animated series is better. I'll watch it after NGE.
PrehistoricUFO wrote: Finished Cowboy Bebop and Ninja Scroll reruns, now I'm on my second viewing of Basilisk and I'm beginning, for my first time, to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion.
My buddy who is an enormous Mega Man fan gave me his Casshern Sins anime. I saw the live-action film a long time ago and thought it was okay, apparently the animated series is better. I'll watch it after NGE.
I wish you best of luck with it. Personally, I love the series a whole lot, but it is either a love it or hate it for most people, considering the director, Hideaki Anno, essentially put his heart, soul and personality into it while having to go through his depression, and the later part of the show shows that with the much darker turn. Also the Main character is what ticks everyone off, but if anyone had to go what he had to go through, most everyone would go through the same exact thing almost....
Also, I got getting around to Utena and a few others. Utena is good, but not for the causal watcher at all....
You couldn't stand the Gouf Ignited and the Zaku Warrior? They weren't too bad design wise. Its not the first time an AU series literally rips an old MS design from UC though.
So you don't think only 5 hours Destiny is better than the full series? ;P
Isn't the correct way to watch Destiny is not not watch it at all?
You couldn't stand the Gouf Ignited and the Zaku Warrior? They weren't too bad design wise. Its not the first time an AU series literally rips an old MS design from UC though.
So you don't think only 5 hours Destiny is better than the full series? ;P
Isn't the correct way to watch Destiny is not not watch it at all?
Nah, you just watch the scene where Destroy Gundam blows up the city a couple of times.
Official Title - Beyond the Horizon
Alternative Titles - Kyoukai no Kanata, Kyokai no Kanata
Description - The dark fantasy follows a high school sophomore named Akihito Kanbara. Although the boy appears human, he is half youmu and invulnerable to wounds because he can heal quickly. One day, Akihito meets freshman Mirai Kuriyama when it seems she is about to jump from the school rooftop. Mirai is isolated because of her ability to manipulate blood, which is unique even among members of the spirit world. Disturbing events begin to unfold after Akihito saves Mirai.
I thought the first episode was pretty good. Nice animation quality, interesting characters, and some good style in the fighting so far.
You couldn't stand the Gouf Ignited and the Zaku Warrior? They weren't too bad design wise. Its not the first time an AU series literally rips an old MS design from UC though.
So you don't think only 5 hours Destiny is better than the full series? ;P
Isn't the correct way to watch Destiny is not not watch it at all?
Nah, you just watch the scene where Destroy Gundam blows up the city a couple of times.
Or that Requiem laser cutting space colonies open and killing those damned Newtype/Zeon wannabes.
AduroT wrote: Official Title - Beyond the Horizon
Alternative Titles - Kyoukai no Kanata, Kyokai no Kanata
Description - The dark fantasy follows a high school sophomore named Akihito Kanbara. Although the boy appears human, he is half youmu and invulnerable to wounds because he can heal quickly. One day, Akihito meets freshman Mirai Kuriyama when it seems she is about to jump from the school rooftop. Mirai is isolated because of her ability to manipulate blood, which is unique even among members of the spirit world. Disturbing events begin to unfold after Akihito saves Mirai.
I thought the first episode was pretty good. Nice animation quality, interesting characters, and some good style in the fighting so far.
I second the series. Looks interesting. Hopefully it holds up to the epicness of its opening.
As epic as I expected, although again the pacing is a little off. The ending seemed a little rushed. Given how they had drawn out the story prior to this it seems like they wrapped it up a little too quickly.
But that could have ruined his character. His whole deal is that he's a "normal" guy who's stuck in with a bunch of thugs.
Not saying it couldn't work, it definitely could, but it would change the mood of the show. its sort of a diary of a normal guy just trying to survive in the criminal underworld while at the same time not being corrupted by it.
I too was disappointed in Rock for his actions at the endof the anime's story arc... on some level. However, Rock doesn't really /need/ to kill any one though. He has Revy for that. (especially given her action girlfriend tendencies) Rock is well on his way to losing the "normal guy" status (if it's not already gone, and I certainly consider it to be so) and is well on to the path of the chess master. He's a tactician and strategist and just unglued enough to really be able to throw some crazy gak out of left field. Especially when his plan features a ballistic Revy at the tip.
This evolution is in the anime, but a further "jump" occurs in the OVA Roberta's Blood Trail. Either way, Rock has his morals, but they're drifting further and further from societal norms with every passing day and job.
This evolution is in the anime, but a further "jump" occurs in the OVA Roberta's Blood Trail. Either way, Rock has his morals, but they're drifting further and further from societal norms with every passing day and job.
Spoiler:
And conversely, Revy gets tamer (using the word very lightly) as the series goes on. For a series I've never followed much, Rock and Revy are one of my favorite fictional relationships ever because the dynamic is so twisted in a really romantic way (and I admit I'm a sap)
Ironwill13791 wrote: Kill la kill looks interesting I think I might be giving the 1st ep a shot to see if it is (or at least enough to get me to watch the 2nd).
It's.... Interesting. Definitely looks like it's done by the same people as Gurren Lagann and is not at all meant to be take seriously. Watched the first episode I thought it was alright. My complaint at the moment is I wish her uniform was not so outlandish.
I'm 5 episodes in to NGE, and I have to say it's very boring and underwhelming. The characters are irritating, the story is just . . . bad, and the fights are all missed opportunities it feels like. They are slow and incredibly exaggerated when something does happen (buildings being cleanly sliced in half? ugh). I realize I'm still early in the series but honestly after 5 episodes it should have grabbed one's attention.
For the first time ever, I think I might abandon a show. How is this on IMDB's top animated series? Good thing I didn't pay for it.
I'm 5 episodes in to NGE, and I have to say it's very boring and underwhelming. The characters are irritating, the story is just . . . bad, and the fights are all missed opportunities it feels like. They are slow and incredibly exaggerated when something does happen (buildings being cleanly sliced in half? ugh). I realize I'm still early in the series but honestly after 5 episodes it should have grabbed one's attention.
For the first time ever, I think I might abandon a show. How is this on IMDB's top animated series? Good thing I didn't pay for it.
Now you know why some people consider it so overrated
I'm 5 episodes in to NGE, and I have to say it's very boring and underwhelming. The characters are irritating, the story is just . . . bad, and the fights are all missed opportunities it feels like. They are slow and incredibly exaggerated when something does happen (buildings being cleanly sliced in half? ugh). I realize I'm still early in the series but honestly after 5 episodes it should have grabbed one's attention.
For the first time ever, I think I might abandon a show. How is this on IMDB's top animated series? Good thing I didn't pay for it.
That is common complaint about NGE is that the first 6-7 episodes are slow. Episode 8 picks up the pace much more and it keeps that pace relatively for the rest of the series. As for the story....it starts off bland, than it develops much more later on, and the characters are suppose to be kind of realistic and kind of unlikable, and they go into much more detail later on in the show about them, and boy, they are not your typical anime character crowd.
I'm 5 episodes in to NGE, and I have to say it's very boring and underwhelming. The characters are irritating, the story is just . . . bad, and the fights are all missed opportunities it feels like. They are slow and incredibly exaggerated when something does happen (buildings being cleanly sliced in half? ugh). I realize I'm still early in the series but honestly after 5 episodes it should have grabbed one's attention.
For the first time ever, I think I might abandon a show. How is this on IMDB's top animated series? Good thing I didn't pay for it.
It gets better, but it tends to stick with the formula of one new angel to fight every episode or two all the way through and the ending makes no sense. It tries to be deep the farther it goes, but eventually it just falls on its face. I'd recommend finishing it just so you can see why everyone talks about it.
NGE is like Citizen Kane. A really bad movie looking back but you kind of get a lot out of watching it because of its influence on the genre. I mean, it's almost like Shinji and Rei are the archetypal characters for dozens of other (much better characters) who came after them;
Hell. Rei alone has spawned more characters than I dare to count;
LordofHats wrote: NGE is like Citizen Kane. A really bad movie looking back but you kind of get a lot out of watching it because of its influence on the genre. I mean, it's almost like Shinji and Rei are the archetypal characters for dozens of other (much better characters) who came after them;
Hell. Rei alone has spawned more characters than I dare to count;
You know, as much I am a fan of Evangelion and not a fan of Eureka Seven, I have to say this is pretty much true and I agree to an extent.
Yeah. You'll be shocked just how many shows have a Rei Expy in them. A brief list; Darker than Black, Eureka Seven, RahXephon (itself a big NGE expy), Now and Then Here and There, Shakugan no Shana, Wolfs Rain, Code Geass, Guilty Crown, Angel Beats, Gunslinger Girl, Burst Angel, Requim for the Phantom, A Certain Magical Index, Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero the list goes on and on.
She's arguably one of the most influential anime characters from the 90's and possibly one of the most influential female anime characters ever created. The big irony here is that Rei is a deconstruction of the 'shy anime girl love interest' and she's spawned literally hundreds of shy anime girl love interests in other works.
To be honest, you could probably make a list for all the anime characters that the 3 main evangelion pilots have influenced. I mean how many "Shinji"s have we had. NGE has been incredibly influential to the development of anime to what it is today.
LordofHats wrote: Yeah. You'll be shocked just how many shows have a Rei Expy in them. A brief list; Darker than Black, Eureka Seven, RahXephon (itself a big NGE expy), Now and Then Here and There, Shakugan no Shana, Wolfs Rain, Code Geass, Guilty Crown, Angel Beats, Gunslinger Girl, Burst Angel, Requim for the Phantom, A Certain Magical Index, Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero the list goes on and on.
She's arguably one of the most influential anime characters from the 90's and possibly one of the most influential female anime characters ever created. The big irony here is that Rei is a deconstruction of the 'shy anime girl love interest' and she's spawned literally hundreds of shy anime girl love interests in other works.
Which, also to add, she is one of the cultural icons of Japan to some degree, although Anno made her as you said a deconstruction of the 'Shy anime girl love interest', although she was meant to be more portrayed and come across as creepy and alien as Anno intended. Kind of poetic irony if you think about it. Also Yuki Nagato from Haruhi Suzumiya. I still think the show is overrated to a good extend (although I thought it was good), but I liked Yuki a lot. Maybe as much as Rei...
Although that makes me think of a dream I had once of Yuki and Rei playing a game of Infinity and then Warmachine....
Which is why Rei is still one of my fav anime characters ever.
Also, Eureka Seven was amazing and you should feel bad for not liking it.
Also, I didn't even bother watching the last 2 episodes of AoT... just couldn't be fussed, I've been up to date with the manga for months now and I just got bored with how the anime handled it...
I need something new, guess I should pick up blood lad again.
Ironwill13791 wrote: To be honest, you could probably make a list for all the anime characters that the 3 main evangelion pilots have influenced. NGE has been incredibly influential to the development of anime to what it is today.
Definitely. Asuka is far from the fist Tsundere character but she sure as hell took it from a common motif to any given anime probably has one (and like Rei, she's ironically intended to deconstruct Tsundere but only succeeded in increasing its popularity).
Hell, it's well past the point where the expies of characters from NGE are getting their own expies!
LordofHats wrote: Yeah. You'll be shocked just how many shows have a Rei Expy in them. A brief list; Darker than Black, Eureka Seven, RahXephon (itself a big NGE expy), Now and Then Here and There, Shakugan no Shana, Wolfs Rain, Code Geass, Guilty Crown, Angel Beats, Gunslinger Girl, Burst Angel, Requim for the Phantom, A Certain Magical Index, Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero the list goes on and on.
She's arguably one of the most influential anime characters from the 90's and possibly one of the most influential female anime characters ever created. The big irony here is that Rei is a deconstruction of the 'shy anime girl love interest' and she's spawned literally hundreds of shy anime girl love interests in other works.
Which, also to add, she is one of the cultural icons of Japan to some degree, although Anno made her as you said a deconstruction of the 'Shy anime girl love interest', although she was meant to be more portrayed and come across as creepy and alien as Anno intended. Kind of poetic irony if you think about it. Also Yuki Nagato from Haruhi Suzumiya. I still think the show is overrated to a good extend (although I thought it was good), but I liked Yuki a lot. Maybe as much as Rei...
Although that makes me think of a dream I had once of Yuki and Rei playing a game of Infinity and then Warmachine....
Honestly, NGE would probably have been a lot better dropping all the pseudo-Bible/Kabbalic symbolism entirely because the meaningless symbols that permeate the series horribly overshadow the series' actual themes and deconstructions of Anime. NGE is the anime that takes anime apart, but no one had time to notice because they were chasing the incomprehensible hodgepodge of Christian looking stuff.
Soladrin wrote: Which is why Rei is still one of my fav anime characters ever.
Also, Eureka Seven was amazing and you should feel bad for not liking it.
Also, I didn't even bother watching the last 2 episodes of AoT... just couldn't be fussed, I've been up to date with the manga for months now and I just got bored with how the anime handled it...
I need something new, guess I should pick up blood lad again.
I do not know. I mean, I guess the Mechas on air surf boards was cool, but the story was just a bit meh for me, and it felt drawn out to me (although my opinion on it. Not trying to sound like a Hipster douche of sorts, I just personally did not enjoy it. Maybe another go of it might change my mind).
I actually second Eureka Seven's story being 'meh' and i really enjoyed the series. Don't watch Eureka Seven (or AO) for the story cause you'll be disappointed cause they stop making sense really fast. Watch them for the character development. Renton and Eureka make one of the sweetest and most enjoyable to watch anime couples ever and their personal journey is the highlight of the series
Haha, don't worry I was just joking around, everyone has their own tastes. Hell, I can't stand half of the stuff that's mentioned in this thread, Girls and Panzer makes me vomit for instance. Actually, any anime with the standard cutesy girl motif makes me vomit, almost as much as fan service series.
And thus, I shall watch Saikano again to be as contradictory as possible. Because that gak will make me cry like a baby every time.
LordofHats wrote: Yeah. You'll be shocked just how many shows have a Rei Expy in them. A brief list; Darker than Black, Eureka Seven, RahXephon (itself a big NGE expy), Now and Then Here and There, Shakugan no Shana, Wolfs Rain, Code Geass, Guilty Crown, Angel Beats, Gunslinger Girl, Burst Angel, Requim for the Phantom, A Certain Magical Index, Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero the list goes on and on.
She's arguably one of the most influential anime characters from the 90's and possibly one of the most influential female anime characters ever created. The big irony here is that Rei is a deconstruction of the 'shy anime girl love interest' and she's spawned literally hundreds of shy anime girl love interests in other works.
Which, also to add, she is one of the cultural icons of Japan to some degree, although Anno made her as you said a deconstruction of the 'Shy anime girl love interest', although she was meant to be more portrayed and come across as creepy and alien as Anno intended. Kind of poetic irony if you think about it. Also Yuki Nagato from Haruhi Suzumiya. I still think the show is overrated to a good extend (although I thought it was good), but I liked Yuki a lot. Maybe as much as Rei...
Although that makes me think of a dream I had once of Yuki and Rei playing a game of Infinity and then Warmachine....
Honestly, NGE would probably have been a lot better dropping all the pseudo-Bible/Kabbalic symbolism entirely because the meaningless symbols that permeate the series horribly overshadow the series' actual themes and deconstructions of Anime. NGE is the anime that takes anime apart, but no one had time to notice because they were chasing the incomprehensible hodgepodge of Christian looking stuff.
I think in an interview, Anno did say that the Christian/ Kabbalic symbolism was only really meant for show. Although I agree it could have done without it, as I facepalm at the fanbase at times for over-analysing the symbolism that is for just said showing among other things.
I don't see how Shinji really influenced anything. Whiny teenage pilot is nothing new to mecha and neither is having family problems or having your family be behind the creation of the robot you pilot. I can see how Rei influenced characters and Asuka as well, but not Shinji.
No offense to NGE fans out there, but NGE seemed like a load of bull to me. The themes/premise was good, but the characters and presentations stunk. Seriously, if I had to pick an anime from that same period to watch, I'd pick Escaflowne over NGE any day. Heck, even Victory Gundam was better than NGE, and Tomino was actually DEPRESSED when he make that series.
Admiral Valerian wrote: No offense to NGE fans out there, but NGE seemed like a load of bull to me. The themes/premise was good, but the characters and presentations stunk. Seriously, if I had to pick an anime from that same period to watch, I'd pick Escaflowne over NGE any day. Heck, even Victory Gundam was better than NGE, and Tomino was actually DEPRESSED when he make that series.
I find your comment amusing because of your avatar.
I completely agree with you though. NGE didn't have girls with Bazookas in Bikinis in Space though. Its kinda hard to top those levels of grim dark.
Admiral Valerian wrote: No offense to NGE fans out there, but NGE seemed like a load of bull to me. The themes/premise was good, but the characters and presentations stunk. Seriously, if I had to pick an anime from that same period to watch, I'd pick Escaflowne over NGE any day. Heck, even Victory Gundam was better than NGE, and Tomino was actually DEPRESSED when he make that series.
I find your comment amusing because of your avatar.
Why do you think I prefer her in Gundam rather than in NGE
Renton, Ao, Dead Man Wonderland kid, Mirrai Nikki kid, etc. That whole type of protagonist is essentially a port of Shinji to varying degrees.
Shinji influenced the weak, male protagonist. Heck, I think he is credited as the primogenitor. So if you watch an anime and the male protagonist is running away, acting like a coward, getting defeated, has no self-confidence, whining, and is generally making you face-palm 1/2 the time; thank Shinji Ikari.
Renton, Ao, Dead Man Wonderland kid, Mirrai Nikki kid, etc. That whole type of protagonist is essentially a port of Shinji to varying degrees.
Shinji influenced the weak, male protagonist. Heck, I think he is credited as the primogenitor. So if you watch an anime and the male protagonist is running away, acting like a coward, getting defeated, has no self-confidence, whining, and is generally making you face-palm 1/2 the time; thank Shinji Ikari.
Nah, Amuro Ray was like that in the beginning of MSG (1979).
The difference between Shinji and many characters like him is that Shinji stayed a whiny little bitch from episode 1 to episode 26. No character growth what so ever which made him boring and annoying. Shinji definitely isn't as well remembered as Rei or Asuka (and lets face it there's a damn good reason) but he has had an effect.
I would not compare Amuro Ray to Shinji. Amuro wasn't weak or a coward. He was naive. His story is one about the loss of a child's innocence when faced with the real world. Amuro isn't powerless or weak in his characterization. He's quite a strong individual who has been placed in a situation he was never prepared for. Shinji's story is one about someone who sees the real world and continues to act like a child, essentially refusing to grow up, clinging to their youth like it can last forever. If anything, Shinji is a counter-point to Amuro's character and anime male protagonists who when faced with deadly odds and dangerous are essentially protected by merely being the main character inspite of their childish antics.
Now many Shinji like characters evolve from being Shinji to be Amuro in this sense (Renton Thurston), but a clear line can be drawn between Shinji himself and the characters like him.
Hence, only the BEGINNING of MSG. I don't know of any other anime protagonists who would compare to Shinji as an emo prick...oh wait. Shinn Asuka...another black mark against Destiny, I guess
LordofHats wrote: The difference between Shinji and many characters like him is that Shinji stayed a whiny little bitch from episode 1 to episode 26. No character growth what so ever which made him boring and annoying. Shinji definitely isn't as well remembered as Rei or Asuka (and lets face it there's a damn good reason) but he has had an effect.
I would not compare Amuro Ray to Shinji. Amuro wasn't weak or a coward. He was naive. His story is one about the loss of a child's innocence when faced with the real world. Amuro isn't powerless or weak in his characterization. He's quite a strong individual who has been placed in a situation he was never prepared for. Shinji's story is one about someone who sees the real world and continues to act like a child, essentially refusing to grow up, clinging to their youth like it can last forever. If anything, Shinji is a counter-point to Amuro's character and anime male protagonists who when faced with deadly odds and dangerous are essentially protected by merely being the main character inspite of their childish antics.
Now many Shinji like characters evolve from being Shinji to be Amuro in this sense (Renton Thurston), but a clear line can be drawn between Shinji himself and the characters like him.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Although, I would argue that there was "some" growth in Shinji's character even though it was done painstakingly (from a fans perspective) and excruciatingly slowly. Of course, then you watch end of evangelion and it all goes out the window again so I guess you are right again.
Shinji, imo, doesn't really grow. He really just grows enough of a spine to continue clinging to his childish interests just in time to destroy the world. ]
GJ Shinji. You saved the girl. Too bad you turned the planet into an unliving hell.
LordofHats wrote: The difference between Shinji and many characters like him is that Shinji stayed a whiny little bitch from episode 1 to episode 26. No character growth what so ever which made him boring and annoying. Shinji definitely isn't as well remembered as Rei or Asuka (and lets face it there's a damn good reason) but he has had an effect.
I would not compare Amuro Ray to Shinji. Amuro wasn't weak or a coward. He was naive. His story is one about the loss of a child's innocence when faced with the real world. Amuro isn't powerless or weak in his characterization. He's quite a strong individual who has been placed in a situation he was never prepared for. Shinji's story is one about someone who sees the real world and continues to act like a child, essentially refusing to grow up, clinging to their youth like it can last forever. If anything, Shinji is a counter-point to Amuro's character and anime male protagonists who when faced with deadly odds and dangerous are essentially protected by merely being the main character inspite of their childish antics.
Now many Shinji like characters evolve from being Shinji to be Amuro in this sense (Renton Thurston), but a clear line can be drawn between Shinji himself and the characters like him.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Although, I would argue that there was "some" growth in Shinji's character even though it was done painstakingly (from a fans perspective) and excruciatingly slowly. Of course, then you watch end of evangelion and it all goes out the window again so I guess you are right again.
As if...damn brat wipes all of Humanity out because his GF dies. I'm sure a professional - like say Emiya Kiritsugu or MoS!Emiya Shiro - would have accomplished the objective of protecting Humanity from the Angels regardless of the personal/collective cost.
GJ Shinji. You saved the girl. Too bad you turned the planet into an unliving hell.
Just like HF!Emiya Shiro then - he saves his girlfriend, but ends up letting a large part of Fuyuki's populace get killed and letting loose a clusterfeth in the Clock Tower so much so that it takes the Wizard Marshall himself to calm things down.
Admiral Valerian wrote: Hence, only the BEGINNING of MSG. I don't know of any other anime protagonists who would compare to Shinji as an emo prick...oh wait. Shinn Asuka...another black mark against Destiny, I guess
You keep picking strong characters. Both Amuro and, ughhh, Shinn are characters that have strong traits. Both can stand up for themselves and fight on their own; despite any issues they have. Shinji is a coward, and is fundamentally weak. He pretty much has to be forced to do anything almost all series.
And I did say that when end of evangelion hit, Shinji was just as bad as he was before. So if you take that as the true ending then Shinji was weak and constant throughout.
Emiya Shiro is definitely a Shinji expy (though he leans more towards a stronger character than Shinji himself). Kiritsugu imo is not. Shiro though is in most respects probably the kind of male protagonist Shinji was written to criticize.
Admiral Valerian wrote: Hence, only the BEGINNING of MSG. I don't know of any other anime protagonists who would compare to Shinji as an emo prick...oh wait. Shinn Asuka...another black mark against Destiny, I guess
You keep picking strong characters. Both Amuro and, ughhh, Shinn are characters that have strong traits. Both can stand up for themselves and fight on their own; despite any issues they have. Shinji is a coward, and is fundamentally weak. He pretty much has to be forced to do anything almost all series.
Shinn is definitely not strong. Oh yes, he's skilled in an MS cockpit, but apart from that he's a whiny brat who can't let go and believes the universe revolves around him. That guy needs to be taught a lesson from Bright Noa...
Definitely not; if anything, he'd make a perfect protector of Humanity, because he's willing to do anything to get the job done. Seeing as Seele and NERV love to manipulate people's loved ones against them, Kiritsugu would probably just kill those same loved ones to protect Humanity. The guy is in a way, just as ruthless as the Illusive Man.
LordofHats wrote: Shiro though is in most respects probably the kind of male protagonist Shinji was written to criticize.
It depends on the route. Personally, I find Fate!Shiro (idealist) and UBW!Shiro (just another magus) to be quite normal protagonists, while HF!Shiro leaves a lot to be desired. MoS!Shiro is the best, even if he does become a reincarnation of sorts of the infamous Magus Killer.
Admiral Valerian wrote: Hence, only the BEGINNING of MSG. I don't know of any other anime protagonists who would compare to Shinji as an emo prick...oh wait. Shinn Asuka...another black mark against Destiny, I guess
You keep picking strong characters. Both Amuro and, ughhh, Shinn are characters that have strong traits. Both can stand up for themselves and fight on their own; despite any issues they have. Shinji is a coward, and is fundamentally weak. He pretty much has to be forced to do anything almost all series.
Shinn is definitely not strong. Oh yes, he's skilled in an MS cockpit, but apart from that he's a whiny brat who can't let go and believes the universe revolves around him. That guy needs to be taught a lesson from Bright Noa...
At least Shinn never ran away from his problems....consistently ta boot. He definitely needed some "corrections" but he would get cocky and stand up for himself....annoyingly. Shinji never did. But I guess a lot of this has to do with how each of us defines strength.
Shinn does not have the strength to face the world and move on. Shinji does not have the strength to stand up for himself. At least, that's how I see it.
LordofHats wrote: Shinji, imo, doesn't really grow. He really just grows enough of a spine to continue clinging to his childish interests just in time to destroy the world. ]
GJ Shinji. You saved the girl. Too bad you turned the planet into an unliving hell.
Oh god, why did you have to remind me of the mess that is 3.0....
Also, I would make the point that his character does grow, but as someone said, painstakingly slow. What most people do not get that is he lost his mother at a young age and his dad abandons him because he wants to distance himself from because he believes that he is only going to hurt him more (sound familiar anyone? Like father and son?). In a sense, Gendo can be described as an adult Shinji who always kept running away from his problems and became like that, but Shinji does not become that and does face his problems (well to an extent after he turns the world population into OJ with the help of a Giant Naked Rei and he goes through and has an epiphany in the Sea of LCL. It might not be much, but for what it is worth, it is grow. Personally I think he develops much better in the manga, but enough of that now...). Although, I would like to go on the Record to say Simon was Gainax's way of saying sorry how much of a whiny child Shinji was and the rage that came with it.
LordofHats wrote: Shinji, imo, doesn't really grow. He really just grows enough of a spine to continue clinging to his childish interests just in time to destroy the world. ]
GJ Shinji. You saved the girl. Too bad you turned the planet into an unliving hell.
Oh god, why did you have to remind me of the mess that is 3.0....
Also, I would make the point that his character does grow, but as someone said, painstakingly slow. What most people do not get that is he lost his mother at a young age and his dad abandons him because he wants to distance himself from because he believes that he is only going to hurt him more (sound familiar anyone? Like father and son?). In a sense, Gendo can be described as an adult Shinji who always kept running away from his problems and became like that, but Shinji does not become that and does face his problems (well to an extent after he turns the world population into OJ with the help of a Giant Naked Rei and he goes through and has an epiphany in the Sea of LCL. It might not be much, but for what it is worth, it is grow. Personally I think he develops much better in the manga, but enough of that now...). Although, I would like to go on the Record to say Simon was Gainax's way of saying sorry how much of a whiny child Shinji was and the rage that came with it.
I think NGE was really one of the first non-Saturday morning animes I watched. I didn't/don't get all that deconstruction stuff, it's just something I really liked at the time, but only think it is mediocre thinking back on it. Would Definitely say Gurren Lagann is Much better IMHO. The whole thing about Anno hating his fans is rather humorous though.
AduroT wrote: I think NGE was really one of the first non-Saturday morning animes I watched.
Mine was Gundam Wing. It seemed awesome at the time, but after watching UC and AD...not so much.
Would Definitely say Gurren Lagann is Much better IMHO.
Well duh; just who do you think they are?
The whole thing about Anno hating his fans is rather humorous though.
He probably does; IIRC, Rei's character was meant to be a criticism of an anime fan's 'dream girl', and how unnatural such a person would be. Seeing how popular Rei's stereotype is, I'd say it backfired.
The thing about shinji is he basically a blank. Something you could make a character out. He is not a character in itself.
Someone mentioned renton from Eureka 7(One of my favorite) He may have starte slightly like shinji but eventually overcame his fear and became competant in what he could do. Same with Eureka, She had some PROBLEMS, but she didnt let them control her like Rei did.
I'm loving all this Mecha Anime deconstruction discussion.
May I just say, I was introduced to Nge through the Movies, and haven't watched any of the shows- I find it was much easier to watch and pay attention to everything when it was presented that way instead- and you don't have to go slogging through entire seasons of anime to witness a micrometer's character growth.
And if you like (or even if you don't like!) NgE, check out Shinji and Warhammer 40K- it's a deconstruction of a deconstruction, a passable Shonen anime story, and has GrimDarkness turned on its head. Because everyone knows, when you multiply a negative by a negative it makes a positive.
Anvildude wrote: I'm loving all this Mecha Anime deconstruction discussion.
May I just say, I was introduced to Nge through the Movies, and haven't watched any of the shows- I find it was much easier to watch and pay attention to everything when it was presented that way instead- and you don't have to go slogging through entire seasons of anime to witness a micrometer's character growth.
And if you like (or even if you don't like!) NgE, check out Shinji and Warhammer 40K- it's a deconstruction of a deconstruction, a passable Shonen anime story, and has GrimDarkness turned on its head. Because everyone knows, when you multiply a negative by a negative it makes a positive.
I wonder if Anno read that.
There are two outcomes if he has - He will either be very happy, or he will implode out of frustration. I suspect the latter.
If I were to say anything about Anno, it's that he's a self-righteous twit. I appreciate what Eva tried to do, but as evident by the outcome, Eva failed to achieve its thematic goals and if anything people still don't get what its themes were because Anno was too busy hiding those themes behind a veil of random crap so he could point at all the otaku people he didn't like and tell them their stupid for being distracted by all the stuff he put there to distract them.
It's been nearly 20 years since Eva started its run and he's still there talking about all the dumb people who don't get it when its been pointed out numerous times that's his own fault. He's a jerk ass really.
Depends on who you ask. Anyone who things Avatar wasn't influenced by Anime is fooling themselves, but some people consider Anime to be Japanese made animation.
Personally, I think Last Air Bender and Legend of Korra count because of their similarities but that's me.
Grey Templar wrote: Indeed. There will be style differences of course. So you can identify "American" anime vs "Japanese" anime. but its all still Anime.
Actually disagree, Anime is quite specifically Japanese, otherwise it'd all just be cartoons and we could just throw the word anime out of it entirely.
For me an authors opinion as to their own work is always relevant, especially if you're trying to figure out what a story was supposed to mean. I mean we don't ignore Victor Hugo when he says the Hunchback of Notre-Dame is a story critical of the church's ability to help the people who need their help the most. However the key part for death of the author as a concept is that the author is not the end of meaning. Any writer can probably tell you that people have found meaning in their work that they never intentionally put into it (it happened to pretty much everyone in my creative writing class). At times that meaning can completely overshadow what the writer intended (as it did in Evangelion) and whether that is a success or a failing will depend on the work imo. Evangelion is, in the respect of conveying Anno's meaning, a radical failure as a piece. Obviously though it succeeded massively as an interpreted artwork given the vast amount of literature dedicated to defining its meaning outside of Anno's intentions.
Stories can't just mean whatever random gak someone makes up, they're actually in the text. If you want to argue that a work means something you actually produce an argument to that effect using the piece itself. It simply means that a work will often have meaning beyond the author's intentions and the author's intentions are not the end of meaning i.e. the author is not a tyrant who can dictate what their work means to others.
i know its not anime, but manga...but did anyone read the latest Shingeki no Kyojin chapter? So much going on! I don't want to spoil it but it was great.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I was about to smack the first person that mentioned SAO, but that same person mentioned .hack... so I suppose I'll just let it slide.
In no way, shape, or form do I not like or support the horrid and highly overrated show that was mentioned that ripped off of .Hack//, nor shall I speak of it again.
I really liked SAO... First impressesions SAO was better than this new one as well. Also liked SAO better than .Hack, if for no other reason than it actually had an ending I got to watch, since I didn't play the games.
SAO episodes 1-14 were pretty good. 15 was okay. 25 was sweet and kind of exciting. 16-24 were boring. Except for the bit where Kirito went beast mode. That was kind of cool. The whole sub-plot with his not-sister was blarg in its entirety.
SAO is a bit like Eureka Seven. The romance sub-plot kept it afloat for at least the first 14 episodes. Unlike Eureka Seven though, one member of the romance sub-plot, Asuna, got reduced to standing around all day (right after the sub-plot became the main plot no less) and that silly sub-plot with Sugu started and the series spiraled into blandness. That and it did pull a deus ex in episode 14 which was just cheesy.
LordofHats wrote: SAO is a bit like Eureka Seven. The romance sub-plot kept it afloat for at least the first 14 episodes. Unlike Eureka Seven though, one member of the romance sub-plot, Asuna, got reduced to standing around all day (right after the sub-plot became the main plot no less) and that silly sub-plot with Sugu started and the series spiraled into blandness. That and it did pull a deus ex in episode 14 which was just cheesy.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: they just don't make 'em like they used to anymore.
Maybe I'm weird, but I just never thought .Hack was very good. I've never played the games, so maybe they're a lot better. But Sign I found fairly boring to watch until the last quarter of the series and I've just never bothered watching the others.
Caught the first episode of Log Horizon and that's pretty much the definition of generic. Want to talk about a .Hack rip off it's complete with a mage main character with a crescent staff and a cat person XD
LordofHats wrote: Maybe I'm weird, but I just never thought .Hack was very good. I've never played the games, so maybe they're a lot better. But Sign I found fairly boring to watch until the last quarter of the series and I've just never bothered watching the others.
.hack// has a deep and mature story that requires the viewer to think. Not to mention it has a more accurate depiction of how MMORPGs are really like (I can tell - I'm a Ragnarok veteran).
Maybe the series as a whole, but Sign seemed like it was just a bunch of people walking around talking about the obvious like it was some great revelation till it approached the final stretch.
Then again maybe I need to rewatch it XD It's been more than a few years.
LordofHats wrote: Maybe the series as a whole, but Sign seemed like it was just a bunch of people walking around talking about the obvious like it was some great revelation till it approached the final stretch.
Yeah, it was kinda slow and dialogue-heavy, but I was entranced by the music when I watched it for the first time. It also led me to start playing MMORPGs too. It was only when I was in high school that I began to enjoy the show itself. I doubt if it's possible to understand and enjoy the show in just one go.
I'm looking to see if that Pupa is worth a watch. Also just opened up Kill la kill, it seemed alright. Same complaint as others abot that damn costume though.
Same complaints about Kill La Kill, I like it... except for the damn costume.
Nagi no Asukara is cute, but the kind of cute that I will probably end up dropping by the middle of it's run, I like the world, I like the characters, I hate the way they're setting up the romance drama.
Golden Time meanwhile seems like it's going to be quite enjoyable and I look forward to seeing more of it. Still haven't gotten to Log Horizon yet.
Question on Roberta's blood Trail. How many actual episodes are there?
The site I watched it on only had 5 Episodes, but they were numbered 25 through 29. It didn't seem like there was any missing story, but the opening sequences had the same numbers on them.
Grey Templar wrote: Question on Roberta's blood Trail. How many actual episodes are there?
The site I watched it on only had 5 Episodes, but they were numbered 25 through 29. It didn't seem like there was any missing story, but the opening sequences had the same numbers on them.
It's an OVA series so it's probably numbered as an attachment to the anime series (random guess being it was released between seasons 2 and 3).
I thought there already was one but apparently my anime stream site lists Roberta's Blood Trail as 'Black Lagoon 3.' So I guess it just comes after Season 2.
Grey Templar wrote: I hate it when people leave unfinished stuff just laying around.
I hate it even more when the author dies leaving the work unfinished.
Well it's not always their fault. The author of Highschool of the Dead was killed in the tsunami (sad face). I actually can't find why Black Lagoon went on hiatus back in 2010, but the author apparently has a habit of not finishing his work. Tite Kubo recently took a very brief break and who can blame him? he's been chucking out Bleach chapters for years now XD
No one else mentioned Strike the Blood yet. Saw the first episode of that and liked it. Demons, monsters, ect living on an island. Most powerful one a high school boy who doesn't realize How powerful he is. Skilled but naive girl sent to keep an eye on him. Seems a bit on the cliche side, but looked entertaining. A bit of blatant fan service, and it sounds like that's going to be a continuing thing.
Grey Templar wrote: I hate it when people leave unfinished stuff just laying around.
I hate it even more when the author dies leaving the work unfinished.
Well it's not always their fault. The author of Highschool of the Dead was killed in the tsunami (sad face). I actually can't find why Black Lagoon went on hiatus back in 2010, but the author apparently has a habit of not finishing his work. Tite Kubo recently took a very brief break and who can blame him? he's been chucking out Bleach chapters for years now XD
And Zero no Tsukaima. The author died due to cancer with 2 volumes remaining (his own words), and apparently he was on-record saying that he already knew how he was going to write both volumes. He just needed to get well enough to do the work. Now it will forever remain incomplete because those damn researchers haven't found a cure yet. ................ I am joking. I know it is really hard work.
AduroT wrote: No one else mentioned Strike the Blood yet. Saw the first episode of that and liked it. Demons, monsters, ect living on an island. Most powerful one a high school boy who doesn't realize How powerful he is. Skilled but naive girl sent to keep an eye on him. Seems a bit on the cliche side, but looked entertaining. A bit of blatant fan service, and it sounds like that's going to be a continuing thing.
I caught it and it was cheesy for me. I'll probably keep watching cause it looks like one of those shows that screws around for half the series and then gets really good towards the end.
AduroT wrote: No one else mentioned Strike the Blood yet. Saw the first episode of that and liked it. Demons, monsters, ect living on an island. Most powerful one a high school boy who doesn't realize How powerful he is. Skilled but naive girl sent to keep an eye on him. Seems a bit on the cliche side, but looked entertaining. A bit of blatant fan service, and it sounds like that's going to be a continuing thing.
I caught it and it was cheesy for me. I'll probably keep watching cause it looks like one of those shows that screws around for half the series and then gets really good towards the end.
I would agree with that.
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It 's awesomer than a armored firebereathing T-Rex riding a giant Harley.
The suspension of disbelief starts to go with Roberta tearing apart machetes with her teeth though.
AduroT wrote: No one else mentioned Strike the Blood yet. Saw the first episode of that and liked it. Demons, monsters, ect living on an island. Most powerful one a high school boy who doesn't realize How powerful he is. Skilled but naive girl sent to keep an eye on him. Seems a bit on the cliche side, but looked entertaining. A bit of blatant fan service, and it sounds like that's going to be a continuing thing.
I think you did it a bit of a disservice with this summary Aduro, the fan service was minimal, though hapless protagonist san is gonna get plenty of pervert jokes. Strongly reminds me of Demon King Daimao but I'm hoping it doesn't lean quite as heavily on the harem/sex comedy. Over all, it's on my watch list and I have middlin hopes for a decent season.
Also watched the first episode of Gingitsune: Messenger Fox of the Gods. It brought back fond memories of spending time at Inari shrines around the Japanese country side. It looks like it's gonna be a cute little slice of life with some fun cultural learning options here and there.
I second Strike the Blood being similar to Demon King Daimao though I instantly disliked Daimao but this one at least makes we want to give more eps a shot.
I think I am set to enjoy Strike the Blood muck more then DKD.
On another note, any one else watched the first ep of Walkure Romanze aka Valkyrie Romance yet? This anime is so weird. It's cute girls, harem style rom com, but the girls are all knights and they're jousting as part of High School? Or something?
I have NO idea what's going on to be honest. There's plenty of fanservice, terribly designed armor (boob plates galore!) an initial "villain" with some very frilly underwear (someone was having a "I need to feel extra sexy today" moment), an extremely aggressive, possibly perveted horse that shares at least part of a name with the female lead, a brooding hero who hung up his lance and became a simple groomsman/squire (the anime persists in using a German sounding term I didn't quite catch) and again, jousting in a world where most of the women ride horses in miniskirts with their armor on over their school uniforms.
On another note, any one else watched the first ep of Walkure Romanze aka Valkyrie Romance yet? This anime is so weird. It's cute girls, harem style rom com, but the girls are all knights and they're jousting as part of High School? Or something?
I have NO idea what's going on to be honest. There's plenty of fanservice, terribly designed armor (boob plates galore!) an initial "villain" with some very frilly underwear (someone was having a "I need to feel extra sexy today" moment), an extremely aggressive, possibly perveted horse that shares at least part of a name with the female lead, a brooding hero who hung up his lance and became a simple groomsman/squire (the anime persists in using a German sounding term I didn't quite catch) and again, jousting in a world where most of the women ride horses in miniskirts with their armor on over their school uniforms.
I read the synopsis for it, and I couldn't be bothered to even give it a shot. Now I feel justified in my decision.
That... Sounds a lot worse hearing it from you than what I read in the site's synopsis. I've had it open and buffered to watch the first episode, but then I took a nap. May still watch it, I'm bored.
I found the first episode of Log Horizon pretty exciting! I am already liking it more than SAO. I also just like Log Horizon's and .hack's art style more than SAO's.
I also finished the Space Runaway Ideon movie. It was ok, its probably better and more epic to watch as a series. Everything moved really fast, was pretty brutal though.
An then I also finished Samurai Champloo. That was a lot of fun to watch, even if it was mostly filler : p
AduroT wrote: That... Sounds a lot worse hearing it from you than what I read in the site's synopsis. I've had it open and buffered to watch the first episode, but then I took a nap. May still watch it, I'm bored.
For anyone who hasn't caught it yet, I'd suggest Arpeggio of Blue Steel: Ars Nova. I enjoyed the manga when I could find scans of it and though I find CGI annoying when its so noticeable, I think anyone who enjoys the likes of Deep Blue 6 will find something to like in a series basically about sci-fi versions of WWII war boats.
So I finally watched Gurren Lagann. I just gotta say... I can't stand Rossiu. Every time I see him I just want to see him get punched a thousand times xD
StarTrotter wrote: So I finally watched Gurren Lagann. I just gotta say... I can't stand Rossiu. Every time I see him I just want to see him get punched a thousand times xD
LordofHats wrote: For anyone who hasn't caught it yet, I'd suggest Arpeggio of Blue Steel: Ars Nova. I enjoyed the manga when I could find scans of it and though I find CGI annoying when its so noticeable, I think anyone who enjoys the likes of Deep Blue 6 will find something to like in a series basically about sci-fi versions of WWII war boats.
Also: Takao rulz
I enjoyed it. Although I can mirror the sentiment of the CGI killing the mood when it is blatantly noticeable.
LordofHats wrote: For anyone who hasn't caught it yet, I'd suggest Arpeggio of Blue Steel: Ars Nova. I enjoyed the manga when I could find scans of it and though I find CGI annoying when its so noticeable, I think anyone who enjoys the likes of Deep Blue 6 will find something to like in a series basically about sci-fi versions of WWII war boats.
Also: Takao rulz
I enjoyed it. Although I can mirror the sentiment of the CGI killing the mood when it is blatantly noticeable.
Yeah. Hopefully though it'll get better. Kingdom started out the same way but has refined itself to the point that you can't tell the difference except when they're are a bunch of 'generic soldier guys' on screen cause they never bothered buffing their models XD
So, it's 1:30 am here, I gotta wake up in 5 hours and all I can think of is to keep watching Steins;Gate. Major time-travel and conspiracy plot with loads of twists and "WTF?!s per minute".
TheDraconicLord wrote: So, it's 1:30 am here, I gotta wake up in 5 hours and all I can think of is to keep watching Steins;Gate. Major time-travel and conspiracy plot with loads of twists and "WTF?!s per minute".
So I have long admitted that my anime equivalent of junk food is the anime Infinite Stratos
I Couldn't Become A Hero So Reluctantly I Decided To Get a Job is currently on the watch list... we are... entertained? Mostly? It looks like it's gonna be a cute little romcom, it's leaning heavy on the fan service button already, but that's just standard issue I guess.
There is one weird thing. "plot" speculation and some bitching about character design in the spoilers.
Spoiler:
So the demon king's daughter. They (the animators) apparently cannot keep her character design stable. She goes from petite loli with no curves (in the most obvious, the main character will think this individual is male, but everyone else with a brain cell is going to know she's a she disguise ever) to being a head shorter then the male lead with curves that need warning labels. I just.... goddamnit make up your minds! She's cute though and it's pretty clear that the show is going to shove the Demon King's Daughter and the Former Hero Trainee together while the convenience store owner tries to prevent the hook up so she can have Hero for herself. I dunno maybe I'll be surprised on the plot, but whatever. We'll see if I can manage to get through the entire season without giving up and writing my own story instead. With black jack and hookers.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: So I have long admitted that my anime equivalent of junk food is the anime Infinite Stratos
Oh come on, we know you really watch it just for the mechs and combat.
Heheheh :p
I just realized I didn't finish the entire rest of that post. Let's try that again.
So I have long admitted that my anime equivalent of junk food is the anime Infinite Stratos. There's everything I need to shift my brain into cruising speed, flip on cruise control and put my higher brain functions through a shut down cycle. Cute girls a... well for what it is it's a decent story, well designed, unique (relatively) mechs with a pleasant combat style, characters that are for the most part quite likeable (Except Cecilia, girls with Hime curls are never a good sign) and they even manage to poke fun at their own genre/themselves here and there. (There's been a couple references in S1, and now a reference in E1S2 that Laura's XO in her German commando unit is a giant otaku, and gives her all her advice on how to "woo" Ichka. That's quite droll is what that is). Then there's a very solid OP and EP that are fun to listen to to make you forget about anything that popped up that you hate too much. This leads me to the briefly mentioned new episode of season 2. I am not impressed. There's some snippets of drama and plot but honestly the episode focused more on a fanservice trip to the water park then giving us a nice adrenaline kick and teasing us with some plot, and working the fan service eps into that like it's predecessor. It just seemed kinda random over all, like the due date jumped up on the IS team so they had to rush a couple odds and ends out the door and call that an episode. I am not impressed. I will however give the team the benefit of the doubt going forward, so hopefully it's just a weak first episode.... I really like this anime, I'm sure as hell not going to read the light novels, the cool stuff they did tease looks pretty awesome. So... yep
KalashnikovMarine wrote: So I have long admitted that my anime equivalent of junk food is the anime Infinite Stratos
Oh come on, we know you really watch it just for the mechs and combat.
. This leads me to the briefly mentioned new episode of season 2. I am not impressed. There's some snippets of drama and plot but honestly the episode focused more on a fanservice trip to the water park then giving us a nice adrenaline kick and teasing us with some plot, and working the fan service eps into that like it's predecessor. It just seemed kinda random over all, like the due date jumped up on the IS team so they had to rush a couple odds and ends out the door and call that an episode. I am not impressed. I will however give the team the benefit of the doubt going forward, so hopefully it's just a weak first episode.... I really like this anime, I'm sure as hell not going to read the light novels, the cool stuff they did tease looks pretty awesome. So... yep
I have good news for you. They do the same stuff in the LN. Volume 8 had action, fan-service, and plot; the perfect mix that makes us love this series. The newly minted Volume 9 is going to be a "slap-stick romcom" cause he was "tired of writing action" as the author put it. So pretty much after a really good volume we are going to have to deal with a pure fan-service volume with a jumbled plot. It is just the trend of the series. (I guess this might not be good news then)
Don't get me wrong, I /like/ fan service, I enjoy a nice set of jubblies or a well curved tush just like any other red blooded heterosexual male or our various bisexual and lesbian allies here on team "Yay Females". So Don't take it as that, it's when a show that had a lot more to it then the already signficiant amount of fan service it had dumps all the other stuff that made it good and piles on the fan service as a substitute that I start making angry motions with my fist at the screen.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: Don't get me wrong, I /like/ fan service, I enjoy a nice set of jubblies or a well curved tush just like any other red blooded heterosexual male or our various bisexual and lesbian allies here on team "Yay Females". So Don't take it as that, it's when a show that had a lot more to it then the already signficiant amount of fan service it had dumps all the other stuff that made it good and piles on the fan service as a substitute that I start making angry motions with my fist at the screen.
Infinite Stratos goes back and forth and forth between plot/fan-service and plot and fan-service. (Yay jubblies) but I am used to it since I really enjoy High School DxD, that show has some sweet action and makes light of the ridiculous amounts of fan-service in it. As evidenced by a piece of the oppai dragon song:
Oppai dragon, oppai dragon,
grope, grope, suck, suck,
zoom, zoom, iyaan.
Fan service only annoys me when it's completely over the top. A side boob shot here and there, a compromising situation, juggle effects I can live with until they become so intense or so frequent that the series starts to feel like soft porn rather than whatever I actually wanted to watch it for.
Exception is Highschool of the Dead which took fan service to the point of self-parody. That earns my approval.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I couldn't get into High School D&D. I tried, some real lovely fan service there, but not enough crunchy bits to go with the caramel.
If they get far enough into the series, the crunchy bits will be there in full. The fights get so awesome and brutal, but still add in the fan-service (in somewhat ridiculous ways). But to each their own.
LordofHats wrote: Fan service only annoys me when it's completely over the top. A side boob shot here and there, a compromising situation, juggle effects I can live with until they become so intense or so frequent that the series starts to feel like soft porn rather than whatever I actually wanted to watch it for.
Exception is Highschool of the Dead which took fan service to the point of self-parody. That earns my approval.
LordofHats wrote: Fan service only annoys me when it's completely over the top. A side boob shot here and there, a compromising situation, juggle effects I can live with until they become so intense or so frequent that the series starts to feel like soft porn rather than whatever I actually wanted to watch it for.
Exception is Highschool of the Dead which took fan service to the point of self-parody. That earns my approval.
Ep14 of Steins;Gate and I don't see me stopping anytime soon ... damn it, this is why I can't watch anime...
Seriously, whoever wants an anime that makes you go "HOLY GAK, NO FRACKING WAY!" (change those words to the real world equivalent) while holding your head with both hands, try this one.
Edit: 16 eps in a row and I'm only stopping because it's 2:30 am and because I don't think I can take any more depression... or cry ... I think I'm all dried up. What a story...
Grey Templar wrote: It does paint a rather sorry stereotype that Japan is so obsessed with Manga they follow the freakin writers.
Well comic fans follow comics, tv fans follow tv, movie fans etc. Manga is a popular medium in Japan. Even books typically end up being more well known for their manga adaptations than the books themselves in popular culture from what I can tell as an outside observer who mostly reads manga XD
Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova aka Arpeggio of the Blue Steel is pretty kick ass if you like watching warships and submarines duking it out. I do so this is freaking fantastic.
Grey Templar wrote: It does paint a rather sorry stereotype that Japan is so obsessed with Manga they follow the freakin writers.
Well comic fans follow comics, tv fans follow tv, movie fans etc. Manga is a popular medium in Japan. Even books typically end up being more well known for their manga adaptations than the books themselves in popular culture from what I can tell as an outside observer who mostly reads manga XD
I think I read somewhere that the most popular shounen manga series outsells the entire American comic book industry on its own in the same timeframe these days. In fact, it might not even be the most popular, but the third most popular that outsold it, and the most popular sells 3-10 times more than it does.
Part of it may very well be that, as the Japanese comic and animation industry never had the 'Kids show' stigma, they're more willing to create pieces that use darker themes, and have engaging long-term storylines. It probably also helps that it's usually a single writer for an entire series, and when the writer stops, the series stops- instead of slinging popular characters around from one author to another, many with wildly different styles and focuses.
So, yeah, sorry to sound like a broken record, but I can't recommend Steins;Gate enough. I just finished it and man, I laughed, I cried, I rejoiced, I despaired, it was a roller-coaster of emotions. Just too damn good.
Honestly, that song is just perfect for everything. It's just so epic, it makes me just want to go out and do stuff. When I imagine my DIY Chapter's marines fighting, I imagine them fighting to that song.
The second opening isn't bad either, in fact I find it awesome. They comprise a solid 10 minutes of my jogging music, and that's saying something, considering the songs (including the extended version of the 1st opening) are only about 5 minutes combined.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I'm not even part way into S2E2 for Infinite Stratos and I can only say...
Much better. Hell yes. Seito Kaichou isn't going to be messing with my shipping order any time soon, but she's fun.
Mecha fighting, action, story, and fan service. THIS is what we were all waiting for. And I will say this, Tatenashi's character will only get better from here (and she is already funny and badass). If the season keeps up like this last episode, then we are in for one hell of a ride.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: I'm not even part way into S2E2 for Infinite Stratos and I can only say...
Much better. Hell yes. Seito Kaichou isn't going to be messing with my shipping order any time soon, but she's fun.
Mecha fighting, action, story, and fan service. THIS is what we were all waiting for. And I will say this, Tatenashi's character will only get better from here (and she is already funny and badass). If the season keeps up like this last episode, then we are in for one hell of a ride.
Indeed. Although why do I sense a Netorare sub-plot going to happen with (not like it is going to happen since Ichika is oblivious to all the girls feelings kind of, even the that is kind of an understatement)?....
Tanakosyke22 wrote: Indeed. Although why do I sense a Netorare sub-plot going to happen with (not like it is going to happen since Ichika is oblivious to all the girls feelings kind of, even the that is kind of an understatement)?....
I actually had to look up what that meant. I don't think I will be getting jealous. Especially, if Ichika continues down his path of apparently not possessing a brain cell.
Yeah no NTR requires the protagonist to be IN a relationship. Ichika meanwhile has *counts* seven girls and one teacher throwing themselves at him. (Well okay, Maya has yet to /throw/ herself at the world's densest living being but you can tell she's only resisting because Chifuya would kill her. Ran's an active combatant, but has less of a shot as she isn't at the Academy yet. ) and is still somehow single... and clueless.
Also for the record I appreciate Tatenashi's naked apron gag on an... artistic level. Yeah. That's it! Artistic.
KalashnikovMarine wrote: Yeah no NTR requires the protagonist to be IN a relationship. Ichika meanwhile has *counts* seven girls and one teacher throwing themselves at him. (Well okay, Maya has yet to /throw/ herself at the world's densest living being but you can tell she's only resisting because Chifuya would kill her. Ran's an active combatant, but has less of a shot as she isn't at the Academy yet. ) and is still somehow single... and clueless.
Also for the record I appreciate Tatenashi's naked apron gag on an... artistic level. Yeah. That's it! Artistic.
I thought it really was a naked apron until she went "Tada, it's a swimsuit.". Then I remembered all the jokes she plays on him in the LN. But, umm, yeah. Let's go with an artistic appreciation.
True. That still might not help Ichika, between a naked girl and pressue from being close range at a fight on that level of hatred he'd probably bleed out
KalashnikovMarine wrote: True. That still might not help Ichika, between a naked girl and pressue from being close range at a fight on that level of hatred he'd probably bleed out
Not anime related at all, but I think this might fit the bill if that did happen (or at least fit the bill kind of).
KalashnikovMarine wrote: True. That still might not help Ichika, between a naked girl and pressue from being close range at a fight on that level of hatred he'd probably bleed out
I forgot she would be naked. The nosebleed caused by flashes of heaven during the fight would probably be enough to kill him. Good call.
Well, just saw the whole Attack on Titan in 2 days... don't get me wrong, it's damn good and I devoured the whole thing but I didn't feel it was as great as many people mentioned it was.
For a non-intense Anime, it's pretty much been perfect so far. (by non-intense I mean things watched for fun, not for brain busting).
It's a Harem anime comedy, but handled maturely. The fanservice is there, but not shoved in your face. The action has variety- it's not just people doing the exact same thing faster than the other guy, or people smirking at each other while they brag about who'll win. The story is intriguing- I'd like to know this 'purpose' the IS were made for...
Ghost in Shell is a great series, other old Sci Fi series include
Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, Darker than Black, Samurai Seven.
Kind of fitting that description include Origin: Spirits of the Past, Jyu Oh Sei, Full Metal Alchemist, Rideback
