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2011/04/27 13:19:00
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Somewhere in south-central England.
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SpitfireArsonist wrote:BaronIveagh wrote:Something goatboy said over on Bell has me thinking.
What do you think that the (assuming there is one) new SoB codex will be like?
I hate to say it, but I had a vision of a worst-case scenario where Matt Ward has Celestine rape Slaanesh in person with a chain sword after slaughtering the Emperor's Children to the last CSM and being pregnant with the Star Child via the Emperor, before declaring Roboute Guilliman to be her spiritual liege.
Eh, shouldn't they just make a small pamphlet, and mail it to the 15 or so SoB players instead of wasting their time writing a new codex?
They should probably do that for all the non- SM armies, then they could concentrate on making some more SM codexes.
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2011/04/27 13:39:09
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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IdentifyZero wrote:Melissia wrote:What do you mean still?
Immolator spam is pretty crappy, so it becoming good would be new, not the same thing over again  BaronIveagh wrote:LOl they'l make it Squad part A and Squad Part B so they can charge more and still claim that they're inexpensive. Sort of like IG.
Actually you can get an entire troops choice from a single box with IG. It just isn't an infantry platoon.
Last I played Sisters Immolator spam was great, that was back in 4th. I would think it's even better in 5th given how templates work and the ammount of said templates sisters can bring to bear.
Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
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2011/04/27 14:19:04
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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The Hammer of Witches
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Melissia wrote:Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
What do you use? Do you go down the Exorcist route, or perhaps melta infantry?
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
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2011/04/27 14:24:49
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I tended to use three exorcists, four to six battle sister squads, and either a canoness with seraphim or canoness with celestians.
Although it frequently ends up being a game of "who has more uncontested objectives?", I still manage to win. Not as often as I did before C:IG and the other fifth edition codices mind....
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2011/04/27 14:32:36
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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fox-light713 wrote:Last I heard matt ward was not the one writing the SoB codex, but Phil Kelly is supposedly the one writing it.
So novice sisters will now be stealing Thunderhawks to cruise mischiveously and promiscously around Sister town with their Sister-claws and Sister-belts while Saint Celesntine's troubled underdog-childhood will be revealed, though she now turns into "the most intelligent Dark Elder Sister of all" who lops black-holes-in-a-box at her rival Sisters while cackling away happily like bugs bunny on carrot pay day?
Please Lord no.. Sisters sure deserve better than Phail Kelly.
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2011/04/27 14:40:11
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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The Hammer of Witches
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@Melissia.
That's what I suspected. I was hoping you'd have a great ground-pounder tactic. Whenever I've tried it I've ended up with a whole bunch of dead Sisters.. The few options for AT is one of the main things that's been making me get bored of my Sisters. Hopefully the new 'dex will restore my passion.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
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2011/04/27 14:46:03
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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HTJ: For Sisters, it's really all won or lost in the movement phase. That's the only advice I can give.
You're confusing PHil Kelly with Matt Ward, Zweischneid.
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2011/04/27 14:51:43
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think that was a reference to the Space Wolves codex, which Phil Kelly did.
Then again, if my Witch Hunters get the same love that my Space Wolves got, I'll be a happy gamer.
Edit: Nevermind, I'm not really sure what Zwei is talking about. For some reason I thought his post was about the recent naming trends (blood fist, blood this, blood that, etc. etc.)
clearly I'm going crazy faster than I originally thought...
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2011/04/27 17:00:53
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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BaronIveagh wrote:I hate to say it, but I had a vision of a worst-case scenario where Matt Ward has Celestine rape Slaanesh in person with a chain sword after slaughtering the Emperor's Children to the last CSM and being pregnant with the Star Child via the Emperor, before declaring Roboute Guilliman to be her spiritual liege.
I hate to say it, but I laughed profusely when I read this. Totally seems like something Matt Ward would do.
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2011/04/27 17:13:35
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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... who isn't writing this codex.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2011/04/27 17:14:40
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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Melissia wrote:... who isn't writing this codex.
But it is if he were! 
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2011/04/27 17:15:06
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Yeah, but he said that's something Phil Kelly would write.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2011/04/27 17:18:59
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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BaronIveagh wrote:I hate to say it, but I had a vision of a worst-case scenario where Matt Ward has Celestine rape Slaanesh in person with a chain sword after slaughtering the Emperor's Children to the last CSM and being pregnant with the Star Child via the Emperor, before declaring Roboute Guilliman to be her spiritual liege.
I think he meant the Wardster...
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2011/04/27 17:19:05
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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The Hammer of Witches
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Which Codices are written by Phil Kelly? I don't think I own any of them, but if he's writing Sisters I'd like to have a look.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
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2011/04/27 17:19:44
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Melissia wrote:Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
Umm. Immo Spam is one of the more competitive lists variants out of C: WH... The fact that you can take 8 to 11 Immos, all with 2x BS4 Meltaguns in them plus other things at 2000 points is a pretty big deal.
Check the BR forum, I belive SabrX has quite a few successful BRs for his Immo Spam. Automatically Appended Next Post: htj wrote:Which Codices are written by Phil Kelly? I don't think I own any of them, but if he's writing Sisters I'd like to have a look.
Codex Space Wolves. Codex: Eldar. Partial credit for Codex: Necrons
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2011/04/27 18:36:49
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I'm hoping for more/better seraphim. Flying nuns with flamethrowers are a fantastic concept that should be expanded upon more, at length.
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2011/04/27 21:47:21
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Helpful Sophotect
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All I hope is a new codex ... Nothing more.
I know I would say then: This story or that rule/unit/weapon is intolerable !
And at the same time: Ohlalala, some of these are really great.
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2011/04/27 21:53:22
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I hope its pretty close to the current dex, just with some fifth edition additions.
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2011/04/27 21:54:37
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Melissia wrote:Yeah, after crons. Then tau probably after Sisters . Sounds like a good year for GW's underdogs.
TAU!
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2011/04/27 22:11:43
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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pretre wrote:Melissia wrote:Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
Umm. Immo Spam is one of the more competitive lists variants out of C: WH... The fact that you can take 8 to 11 Immos, all with 2x BS4 Meltaguns in them plus other things at 2000 points is a pretty big deal.
Not against my Guard army it isn't. 8-11 overpriced AV11 vehicles is laughably easy to destroy, and the targets inside of said vehicles are rather squishy too (Being five member squads which are T3).
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2011/04/27 22:20:32
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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Melissia wrote:
IdentifyZero wrote:
We will not be seeing a Sisters of Battle Codex until they decide to make some new plastics for them.
We already know they're making them, as they've talked about problems they've had with the robes and trying to make them look dynamic enough.
I'm not doubting you guys, but where have you read these things from GW??????? I've been playing Warhammer since around 91' and the 'a friend of a friend' is never really what I like to hear. xD
It was in one of the Dark Eldar interviews ... They were talking about how solving some of the issues in making the DE dynamic gave them ways to address some of the issues with the sisters, namely non-static flowing robes and plastic sprue placement.
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2011/04/27 22:38:59
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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My thought on faith points:
Allocate 1 faith per turn. Squads with a HQ and 'faithful' units (celestians / seraphim) get a bonus faith point that only they can expend.
Cannot accumulate (use or loose)
Expend 1 to : get fleet (fervours charge forward), rending on template and melta weapons (holy fire), invunerable save next turn (divine shield) etc.
Some units would be martyrs allowing an additional faith point to be allocated when they die. (HQs primarily)
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2011/04/27 22:52:15
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Yech, I hate martyrdom. It's such a stupidly designed rule that basically means Sisters go through HQ units like a fat kid goes through packages of doritos.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2011/04/27 23:00:31
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Mighty Kithkar
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The best case scenario to me would be a tweaked army that wins the game at medium to short range, but not in CC. Bolter is, where it's at, together with NON Psi-Faith mechanic, and anti-psi on the Sisters (hey, Psi Powers should be considered lesser by now, looking at how many of them are around by now...)
And it's Marneus Calgar who is the liege. NOT Guilliman. God damn it people, at least get your hate RIGHT if you want to hate.
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2011/04/27 23:06:48
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Problem is that if the army is all medium-short range with no long ranged weapons added in, it'll still suffer from the "every army has three exorcists" problem.
I already have my own ideal fifth editions Sisters codex out, heh.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2011/04/27 23:14:39
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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Mortifex!
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2011/04/28 02:28:12
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Melissia wrote:pretre wrote:Melissia wrote:Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
Umm. Immo Spam is one of the more competitive lists variants out of C: WH... The fact that you can take 8 to 11 Immos, all with 2x BS4 Meltaguns in them plus other things at 2000 points is a pretty big deal.
Not against my Guard army it isn't. 8-11 overpriced AV11 vehicles is laughably easy to destroy, and the targets inside of said vehicles are rather squishy too (Being five member squads which are T3).
Sorry, forgot about your vast competitive experience and library of battle reports. How many games have you played with or against using immo spam? Because I'm certain there are quite a few BRs just on dakka that indicate that it is viable and competitive. Unless your theorycraft trumps empirical evidence now.
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2011/04/28 02:37:11
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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pretre wrote:Melissia wrote:pretre wrote:Melissia wrote:Nope, there's tons of anti-tank in fifth edition as this is basically the edition of mechanized. And immolators are hilariously fragile for their expense at a mere AV11. Try beating a mech guard army with immolators. Yeah...
Umm. Immo Spam is one of the more competitive lists variants out of C: WH... The fact that you can take 8 to 11 Immos, all with 2x BS4 Meltaguns in them plus other things at 2000 points is a pretty big deal.
Not against my Guard army it isn't. 8-11 overpriced AV11 vehicles is laughably easy to destroy, and the targets inside of said vehicles are rather squishy too (Being five member squads which are T3).
Sorry, forgot about your vast competitive experience and library of battle reports. How many games have you played with or against using immo spam? Because I'm certain there are quite a few BRs just on dakka that indicate that it is viable and competitive. Unless your theorycraft trumps empirical evidence now.
It is certainly intimidating seeing that many vehicles...
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2011/04/28 02:56:24
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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5 Immos, 2 Rhino, 3 Exo vs Eldar, draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364150.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs DE, Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/362728.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs DA, Loss. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/359981.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs Chaos, Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358291.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs BA, Draw
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/357372.page
3 Immos, 3 Rhinos, 2 Seraphim, 3 Exos vs Wolfstar. Win.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344684.page
2 Immos, 3 Rhinos, 1 Seraphim, 2 Exos vs Orks. Win.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344388.page
3 Immos, 3 Rhinos,2 Seraphim, 3 Exos vs Orks. Draw.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344388.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Daemons. Draw
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/341823.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs SW. Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/339752.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Eldar. Draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/337609.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Tyranids. Loss.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/337609.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Orks. Loss. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302377.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Tyranids. Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/294444.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs SM. Draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/290906.page
Win 6
Draw 6
Loss 3
That's just SabrX and only as many as I got to before I got bored. Certainly not a losing record and looks pretty viable to me.
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2011/04/28 04:27:38
Subject: Sisters of Battle
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Honored Helliarch on Hypex
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pretre wrote:5 Immos, 2 Rhino, 3 Exo vs Eldar, draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/364150.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs DE, Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/362728.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs DA, Loss. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/359981.page
3 Immos, 2 Rhinos, 3 Exo vs Chaos, Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358291.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs BA, Draw
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/357372.page
3 Immos, 3 Rhinos, 2 Seraphim, 3 Exos vs Wolfstar. Win.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344684.page
2 Immos, 3 Rhinos, 1 Seraphim, 2 Exos vs Orks. Win.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344388.page
3 Immos, 3 Rhinos,2 Seraphim, 3 Exos vs Orks. Draw.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/344388.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Daemons. Draw
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/341823.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs SW. Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/339752.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Eldar. Draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/337609.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Tyranids. Loss.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/337609.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Orks. Loss. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/302377.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs Tyranids. Win. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/294444.page
8 Immos, 2 Exo, 2 Rhino vs SM. Draw. Tournament.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/290906.page
Win 6
Draw 6
Loss 3
That's just SabrX and only as many as I got to before I got bored. Certainly not a losing record and looks pretty viable to me.
Honestly, like I said above to and got told otherwise... pretty sure this is the most competitive Sister's list you can field really.. Immo spam. Not sure why some people like to say it sucks... lol Thanks for posting that.
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